A couple of comments: 1) the sound is nice, but you cannot read the text: it gets lost in the background. and 2) Josquin is early Renaissance, not Medaeval. Strictly speaking, it is 2 musical periods removed from Medaeval: "Ars Nova" was the period in the late 15th Century, with medaeval music being confined to the 12th to early 15th centuries. So, Josquin is a hundred years away from the Medaeval period.
Interesting to know about this early music. Wasn't Josquin De Pres one of the first known muscians? Because I believe before his time (1400) it was only unknown troubadours. I'm really interested in knowing musical history and it's first musicians. Maybe somebody has good info or a site where I can find about this.
The first western composer was Pérotin (c. 1200), a French dude. Invented the first polyphonic songs, everything up until then had been monophonic. If you type 'classical music' into wikipedia, at the bottom there is a timeline.
The Hilliard Ensemble recorded a complete CD with music of Perotin(us)with the majestic Viderunt Omnes as opening piece. Futhermore recently a DVD has come out: Thy Kiss Of A Divine Nature, with music of P. and contamporaries. Excellent !! Wel in my discothek music goes back to the 11th century (Salve Regina-Hermanus Contractus) and a piece from the 8th or 9th century, by I think Ugolino of Aquileia, but it is monofonic i.c. Gregorian....I hate It (just kidding...)
Hey bedankt. I will check it out. Yeah just imagine owning a real music library with music from the 11 century till 2008. I would discover some new music everyday!
Although an incredible composer, Perotin did not invent polyphony by a long shot: he was just one of the very few composers of his time whose name and music have been preserved. He was a student of Leonin, who was a couple of hundred years' removed from the earliest stirrings of polyphony. Another great early composer whose music and legacy have survived the ages, is Hildegard of Bingen, a visionary and contemporary of Leonin (early 12th century). Her music is well worth looking up!
Sorry, I get mixed up between the two. Was Perotin the first to use voices polyphonically? Maybe that's what I meant. I am not an expert on it by a long shot. Just said what I knew (or what I thought I knew anyway).
Perotin was probably not the "first" to do anything... BUT, he did write splendidly first-class polyphonic masterpieces. Vocal polyphony of the non-parallel variety predated him by at least a century. He was one of the very first to write complex 3 and 4 part polyphony, however.
Thank you for your comment.The performance is from "Capella Sancti Michaelis Currende Consort conducted by Eric van Nevel (Belgium) and Josquin's Chanson is dedicated to a girl called Marion: Si J'Avoye Marion ° If i had Marion, alas, all for my delight, this beauty and her sweet form which , alas, my heart has Chosen. I would take her to the wood to dance a giddy round, and ho! I would then take her straight away back home.
Its medieval!
etakate111 2 years ago
Holymother, you're obviously very knowledgeable, and thanks for the information, but now would be a good time to learn to spell mediaeval.
Gonegoose 2 years ago
A couple of comments: 1) the sound is nice, but you cannot read the text: it gets lost in the background. and 2) Josquin is early Renaissance, not Medaeval. Strictly speaking, it is 2 musical periods removed from Medaeval: "Ars Nova" was the period in the late 15th Century, with medaeval music being confined to the 12th to early 15th centuries. So, Josquin is a hundred years away from the Medaeval period.
HolyMotherofGrid 2 years ago 2
sorry HolyMotherofGrid, this was my
first self done video here *smiles*
NicolettadeVries 2 years ago
@HolyMotherofGrid:
Actually Ars Nova was a 14th century medaeval epoch
1bluebulb 2 weeks ago
Josquin died in 1521.
Before him there were many great composers :
Ockeghem, Busnois, Brumel, Dufay, Cicone, Machaut, Landini, etc, etc !
Amongst those living at the same time as Josquin, have a look at Mouton, Obrecht, Isaac, De Larue, for instance.
AlainNaigeon 3 years ago 2
Interesting to know about this early music. Wasn't Josquin De Pres one of the first known muscians? Because I believe before his time (1400) it was only unknown troubadours. I'm really interested in knowing musical history and it's first musicians. Maybe somebody has good info or a site where I can find about this.
royalsteven 3 years ago
The first western composer was Pérotin (c. 1200), a French dude. Invented the first polyphonic songs, everything up until then had been monophonic. If you type 'classical music' into wikipedia, at the bottom there is a timeline.
RythB 3 years ago
Thanks. It would be cool to find some of his music ^_^
royalsteven 3 years ago
The Hilliard Ensemble recorded a complete CD with music of Perotin(us)with the majestic Viderunt Omnes as opening piece. Futhermore recently a DVD has come out: Thy Kiss Of A Divine Nature, with music of P. and contamporaries. Excellent !! Wel in my discothek music goes back to the 11th century (Salve Regina-Hermanus Contractus) and a piece from the 8th or 9th century, by I think Ugolino of Aquileia, but it is monofonic i.c. Gregorian....I hate It (just kidding...)
greetings from holland
pietmk 3 years ago
Hey bedankt. I will check it out. Yeah just imagine owning a real music library with music from the 11 century till 2008. I would discover some new music everyday!
royalsteven 3 years ago
Although an incredible composer, Perotin did not invent polyphony by a long shot: he was just one of the very few composers of his time whose name and music have been preserved. He was a student of Leonin, who was a couple of hundred years' removed from the earliest stirrings of polyphony. Another great early composer whose music and legacy have survived the ages, is Hildegard of Bingen, a visionary and contemporary of Leonin (early 12th century). Her music is well worth looking up!
HolyMotherofGrid 3 years ago
Sorry, I get mixed up between the two. Was Perotin the first to use voices polyphonically? Maybe that's what I meant. I am not an expert on it by a long shot. Just said what I knew (or what I thought I knew anyway).
RythB 3 years ago
Perotin was probably not the "first" to do anything... BUT, he did write splendidly first-class polyphonic masterpieces. Vocal polyphony of the non-parallel variety predated him by at least a century. He was one of the very first to write complex 3 and 4 part polyphony, however.
HolyMotherofGrid 3 years ago
Africans have been singing polyphony for thousands of years. The Egyptians, Greeks, Romans also had it.
violatione 2 years ago
fantastic thankyou
cenotevenus 3 years ago
Hehe, funny how Des Prez stuff sounds at the time mideval and in the same time as beginning of renaissance...
thanks for sharing!
8R8 4 years ago
Hello dear Ana ...about the CD , it's the Info above about the CD ... or what should i say about the CD?
Next Month September i'm not here ... i will be back
in October .. Kiss Nicoletta
NicolettadeVries 4 years ago
OH thnx for the translation, =) I love Josquin he´s my fave renaissance composer...
What cd is that one?
regards Ana
coaxqueen 4 years ago
Very nice video, thnx. Where is the choreutical iconography taken from?
ogamul 4 years ago
thnx for ur dear comment ... The pics u will find in a Dutch Museum in Den Haag
NicolettadeVries 4 years ago
Very nice iconography, who performs the chanson
coaxqueen 4 years ago
NicolettadeVries 4 years ago
Is it from De Vlaamse Polyphonie? I've been looking for that set. Will please you tell me where you found it if that is where it's from?
tallswede68 3 years ago