JFK's assassination his brother's, to Apollo and then 9/11 were government inside jobs. The American people have no idea what slaves they've become who daily take the blue pill then grab their ankles.
Again, same typical hoaxhead argument: It's conceivable, therefore it had to happen. It's imaginative, but nothing more. There's no meat--no tangible evidence of this theory.
So, were the astronauts kept on the moon or somehow in low earth orbit (mysteriously untracked by anyone)? Which is it?
And an airline pilot was allowed into that airspace? Close enough to identify a C5A? Close enough to see parachutes deployed literally miles lower in altitude? How ridiculous! No. Did not happen!
Hey, if you picked up a telephone that was connected to these overhead power lines at 6:41 you'd blow your ears off. Dont worry though, we know what you mean.
I notice how zakabong got around the initial blocking, by changing his "o" to a "0"... How pathetic is that???
The guy was blocked for insulting, and he cannot figure out why??? Pathetic indeed.
If any other propagandists don't like what they see in here because it puts a dent into their pride filled perfect world, then there are still plenty of " I love Apollo " fairy tale websites available for them to peruse.
"Got a specific example? Like some specific statement Jarrah White made?"
How about his claim that nobody outside of NASA ever tracked any of the Apollo craft to the Moon, including the Soviets, or Jodrell Bank, with their 50 ft dish.
"How about his claim that nobody outside of NASA ever tracked any of the Apollo craft to the Moon, including the Soviets, or Jodrell Bank, with their 50 ft dish."
Okay did he use that paragraph about an Interview with some guy from Jodrell Bank from whatever moon hoax book it was in as proof that Jodrell Bank did not track Apollo or did he find some new evidence? If he found some new evidence, what part of the video is it in?
"Okay did he use that paragraph about an Interview with some guy from Jodrell Bank from whatever moon hoax book it was in as proof that Jodrell Bank did not track Apollo or did he find some new evidence?"
The book was Dark Moon and the answer is both.
Jarrah provided information that the 50 ft dish was not able to track any craft to the Moon .. Only the 250 ft dish had that capability and as we all know, it was used to track and document the missions that really did go to the Moon.. Luna.
"Jarrah provided information that the 50 ft dish was not able to track any craft to the Moon .. Only the 250 ft dish had that capability and as we all know, it was used to track and document the missions that really did go to the Moon.. Luna."
Which part of the video shows the evidence that the 50' dish was incapable of tracking anything to the moon?
"Which part of the video shows the evidence that the 50' dish was incapable of tracking anything to the moon? "
I don't remember, but since you've managed to spread your silly comments on almost every part of Jarrah's video, I assumed you had already seen the evidence that Jodrell Bank's 50 ft dish couldn't have tracked Apollo to the Moon.. We've also discussed before, that JB has NO DOCUMENTED DATA OF EVER TRACKING APOLLO, WHILE IT HAS MANY PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION ON RUSSIA'S LUNA MISSIONS.
"I don't remember, but since you've managed to spread your silly comments on almost every part of Jarrah's video..."
Well apparently I missed that one, do you have a general idea of where it might be? I wouldn't want to skip through every video and potentially miss it.
Do you vaguely remember what the proof was that the dish couldn't track anything to the moon?
"...JB has NO DOCUMENTED DATA OF EVER TRACKING APOLLO..."
Other than the landing chart, but they were never paid to track Apollo.
"Well apparently I missed that one, do you have a general idea of where it might be? I wouldn't want to skip through every video and potentially miss it."
Sorry, but I won't do your homework for you.. If you have enough time to play your silly "one up" game here, and post your false accusations that Jarrah is a stupid liar, then you have enough time to watch his whole video, proving once and for all, on every level, that APOLLO WAS A HOAX.
"Do you vaguely remember what the proof was that the dish couldn't track anything to the moon?"
It wasn't large enough to track a craft that far out.
"Other than the landing chart, but they were never paid to track Apollo."
Anyone , including Ian Morrison, can draw a chart .. That is NOT the same thing as DETAILED, DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE, like what was done for all of the Luna missions.
Face it, neiither NASA or Jodrell Bank has any real proof that they ever tracked an Apollo craft.
"Anyone , including Ian Morrison, can draw a chart .. That is NOT the same thing as DETAILED, DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE, like what was done for all of the Luna missions."
I'd like to make a comment that Apollo also has detailed documented evidence but you'll just say it was all made up, which brings me to my second point.
Anyone can write detailed, documented evidence, that doesn't mean anything.
"I'd like to make a comment that Apollo also has detailed documented evidence but you'll just say it was all made up, which brings me to my second point."
There is NO DETAILED, DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF APOLLO OUTSIDE OF NASA !!!! .. That is the entire point!!!
"Anyone can write detailed, documented evidence, that doesn't mean anything."
Are you now claiming that Jodrell Bank's Space Tracking History web site, where they have DOCUMENTED ALL OF THE LUNA MISSIONS, doesn't mean anything?
"Are you now claiming that Jodrell Bank's Space Tracking History web site, where they have DOCUMENTED ALL OF THE LUNA MISSIONS, doesn't mean anything?"
Two things, one it's not Jodrell Bank's own document, it's from Sven Grahn, it was on his website and since it spoke of Jodrell Bank they probably figured they should put it on their own website (I'm sure with his permission.)
Two, my point is that writing about something does not make it true. I shouldn't even have to tell you that.
"Two, my point is that writing about something does not make it true. I shouldn't even have to tell you that."
Then you admit that NASA's SELF SERVING webs sites, which claim that Apollo astronauts landed on the Moon, is not necessarily true.. Especially since the ONLY "documentation" about any of the Apollo "missions" comes directly from NASA , and then copied to other sources.
"No, just that the website alone is not proof of anything, you need more information than that."
Exactly! .. Yet the ONLY "proof" that NASA has of landing their Apollo astronots on the Moon, comes from NASA and their self serving web sites, with NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!
Which means, even according to your own standards, that NASA has no real proof of landing men on the Moon during Project Apollo.
"Yet the ONLY "proof" that NASA has of landing their Apollo astronots on the Moon, comes from NASA and their self serving web sites, with NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!"
[sarcasm]Yes, and before the internet no one had any idea what Apollo was because there were no web sites to tell them. And that team that found water in the Apollo rocks, Jarrah was obviously lying about that because "[there was] NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!"[/sarcasm]
"[sarcasm]Yes, and before the internet no one had any idea what Apollo was because there were no web sites to tell them. And that team that found water in the Apollo rocks, Jarrah was obviously lying about that because "[there was] NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!"[/sarcasm] "
Sorry, but your [sarcasm] is not only desperate, but it sucks!
"Sorry, but your [sarcasm] is not only desperate, but it sucks!"
What a verbose, well thought out response to my comment regarding the absurdity of your claim that NASA and their websites are the only evidence that man landed on the moon. Unfortunately it does not address the fact that Jarrah's video invalidates your claim that there was no independent verification by showing just such a verification at the beginning of his 12 part video series.
"LOL.. So then why wasn't every amateur with a 10 ft dish tracking the Apollo craft to the Moon?"
The people who could track the Apollo craft to the moon probably were doing just that (I've previously shown you a story of a group that tracked Apollo 17 to the moon last time we talked about Jodrell Bank), there was just far less people back then with access to the equipment necessary to do it.
"The ONLY antennas capable..."
By your own admission Jarrah didn't do the calculations to prove that.
"The people who could track the Apollo craft to the moon probably were doing just that (I've previously shown you a story of a group that tracked Apollo 17 to the moon last time we talked about Jodrell Bank),"
So it's just "probably" now ??
If you're referring to Bill Keels, with his home made backyard telescope and the yahoos who were with him, then you're story is just a story with no verification, except wishful thinking and some lights in low earth orbit that could have been anything.
Yes "probably did it", as opposed to Jarrah's statement of "couldn't do it", which is known to be a false statement because there's no reason amateurs couldn't do it.
"f you're referring to Bill Keels, with his home made backyard telescope and the yahoos who were with him"
No, I'm referring to Sven Grahn (you know the guy that did the writeup of Jodrell Bank's tracking history that you like referring to.)
"Yes "probably did it", as opposed to Jarrah's statement of "couldn't do it", which is known to be a false statement because there's no reason amateurs couldn't do it."
Yet there is no proof that they did .. What are the names of the ham operators who suppossedly listened in on Apollo astronot transmissions, and where are the transcripts of these alleged, overheard conversations?
That doesn't matter since that's not my point. My point is that Jarrah was wrong, or lied when he said it would have been impossible for an amateur to pick up the signal. That's it, it doesn't matter if anyone did or did not, the fact that it was (and still is) possible invalidates Jarrah's claim.
"That doesn't matter since that's not my point. My point is that Jarrah was wrong, or lied when he said it would have been impossible for an amateur to pick up the signal."
Now you're resorting to calling Jarrah a liar again?
For the life of me I don't know why he allows you to continue to spew your trollish disinformation and insults of him on his chanel.
Maybe it's because you're one of the few Apollo propagandist/ parrots stupid enough to argue about things you know nothing about.
"No, I said he was wrong, OR lied. It's definitely one of the two but I'm not claiming both. "
Why on earth would Jarrah lie about any of this, knowing that "honest" "truth seekers" like you and the rest of the clavius creeps, will just expose his many lies? [sarcasm]
"Why on earth would Jarrah lie about any of this, knowing that "honest" "truth seekers" like you and the rest of the clavius creeps, will just expose his many lies?"
Why on earth would Jarrah be so wrong on such a simple point?
"... [sarcasm]"
You have to put the elements starting tag before the content, not after.
"Why on earth are you and the rest of the propagandist parrots the only ones claiming that he's wrong?"
Because on that particular point he is wrong as anyone with a "cantenna" would tell you.
"Says who?.. The U-T police? LOL"
W3C, you surround the content with a start tag and a close tag. Not that it matters I was only busting your balls on a non-issue because I was getting bored of your failure to understand FCC regulations and radio basics.
"Why on earth are you and the rest of the propagandist parrots the only ones claiming that he's wrong?"
Sorry, I missed the word "only".
Most likely because you immediately label anyone who thinks Jarrah is wrong as a "propagandist." If the entire youtube community came one by one posting the reasons Jarrah was wrong you'd call them all propagandists and you'd be able to make the same claim (only propagandists claim Jarrah is wrong.)
"Do you have any specific example of where Jarrah has lied? "
Well like I said, either lied or is not very bright, watch Part 9 of this series starting around the 5:50 mark. He shows a document that "proves" ham operators couldn't pick up the signal. What he fails to realize (or does realize and is lying about) is that the chart is only for broadcast frequencies. The frequencies are defined by the FCC in order to avoid conflicting signals, but they have nothing to do with physical restrictions.
"Well like I said, either lied or is not very bright, watch Part 9 of this series starting around the 5:50 mark. He shows a document that "proves" ham operators couldn't pick up the signal. What he fails to realize (or does realize and is lying about) is that the chart is only for broadcast frequencies."
Do you have any proof for that claim, or are you just parroting more typical propaganda?
So you think that Jarrah is either stupid or lying because of the ham radio evidence?
"Besides FM radios, cordless phones, wireless laptops, TV sets with the bunny ears, the laws of physics, etc.?"
Exaclty how do those things prove that amateur ham radio operators were able to receive signals from the Moon?
"Well you asked for one example and that was one example. "
So you think because Jarrah stated that these ham operators couldn't receive a signal from the Moon, that he's a stupid liar? IF he's ever proven wrong on that point, couldn't it be because he was mistaken?
""Besides FM radios, cordless phones, wireless laptops, TV sets with the bunny ears, the laws of physics, etc.?"
Exaclty how do those things prove that amateur ham radio operators were able to receive signals from the Moon? "
They don't, they prove that Jarrah's claim was wrong, that's what you asked for proof for remember?
Jarrah's claim in that part of the video was that ham operators could not have possibly picked up a signal in the 3GHz band and his proof was a frequency allocation chart.
"So you think because Jarrah stated that these ham operators couldn't receive a signal from the Moon, that he's a stupid liar? IF he's ever proven wrong on that point, couldn't it be because he was mistaken?"
I said he's either lying or really dumb. If it was a mistake then it would fall into the really dumb category. I can rename it "mistaken" if that helps.
"I said he's either lying or really dumb. If it was a mistake then it would fall into the really dumb category. I can rename it "mistaken" if that helps."
Saying that he was mistaken is NOT the same as saying he is "REALLY DUMB." Obviously he is not dumb, nor a liar.. but of course it suits your purposes to have people believe that.
So far you haven't shown any proof that Jarrah was "REALLY DUMB" or " A LIAR", or even mistaken about the ham operators not receiving signals from the Moon.
"Saying that he was mistaken is NOT the same as saying he is "REALLY DUMB." "
If Jarrah finds some document that says sticking a fork in an electrical socket is perfectly safe, then passes it off as evidence that teachers are lying to students, would that not be both "mistaken" and "really dumb"?
It's the magnitude of the mistake that determines how "dumb" it was, I felt his mistake was "really dumb" but it's just a matter of opinion.
"If Jarrah finds some document that says sticking a fork in an electrical socket is perfectly safe, then passes it off as evidence that teachers are lying to students, would that not be both "mistaken" and "really dumb"?"
What's REALLY DUMB are your silly analogies.
"It's the magnitude of the mistake that determines how "dumb" it was, I felt his mistake was "really dumb" but it's just a matter of opinion.
Yet you can't even prove that he made a "really dumb" mistake.. Interesting.
The analogy is perfect, the magnitude of the mistake is far greater but the circumstances are exactly the same. I was only pointing out that mistakes can be really dumb sometimes. If I put a == instead of a != in some code, that's a really dumb mistake TO ME. To someone who doesn't understand what != means, then it's just a simple mistake.
"Yet you can't even prove that he made a "really dumb" mistake"
The physics of antenna design. You can pick up a 3GHz signal with an empty can of pringles. You're not likely going to get a signal from the moon like that, but to say it's impossible for amateurs to pick up a signal in the 3GHz band is just wrong.
Where is the PROOF that amateur ham radio operators listened in on Apollo conversations near, or on the Moon ?
And why doesn't anyone, including top shill Phil Plait, know about it ( except for hearsay) .. or know about what alleged conversations they may have evesdropped in on?
Without any proof, all you have is more NASA propaganda.
"Where is the PROOF that amateur ham radio operators listened in on Apollo conversations near, or on the Moon ?"
READ CAREFULLY as I've said this before -
"Pay attention, that's not the claim I'm trying to debunk, it's his claim that it would have been impossible for them to pick up a signal on the 3ghz band because of some document he found. My point is that the document is a frequency allocation chart NOT a chart with the physical restrictions of an antenna."
"And why doesn't anyone, including top shill Phil Plait, know about it ( except for hearsay) .. or know about what alleged conversations they may have evesdropped in on?"
Well there's a website about tracking Apollo 17 to the moon written by Sven Grahn. Though I would assume most other people capable of tracking Apollo to the moon don't have their own website to tell the world about it, but you might be able to find information in astronomy magazines and publications from the time (60-70s).
"Well there's a website about tracking Apollo 17 to the moon written by Sven Grahn"
Sven Ghran is not a ham operator...He's a member of the Swedish Space Agency (now a part of ESA). .. So what does he know about ham operators allegedly tracking Apollo craft to the moon, except for the NASA propaganda he's been force fed?
"Sven Ghran is not a ham operator...He's a member of the Swedish Space Agency (now a part of ESA). .. So what does he know about ham operators allegedly tracking Apollo craft to the moon..."
Plenty as he was one of the operators -
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I think this is where you say something like "He just picked up the relayed TETR-A signal" to which I reply "Thus proving Jarrah lied or was wrong when he said ham operators couldn't pick up the signals being broadcast from Apollo."
"Yes and they probably wrote about it in publications FROM THAT TIME (remember this happened 40 years ago?)"
There's that word "probably" again.. So in other words, you have no proof that ham operators ever wrote about listiening in on the Apollo conversations from or near the Moon .. You're just assuming they might have written about them 40 years ago? ...LOL
"So in other words, you have no proof that ham operators ever wrote about listiening in on the Apollo conversations from or near the Moon .."
Other than the write up (with photos and audio) from Sven, yes but only in response to your comment assuming they would want to have a website about the accomplishment. I feel it's more likely that they would have been proud 40 years ago and written about it then, not now (I'm sure if you e-mail Sven he can point you to something written from the time.)
"Broadcasting on those frequencies is illegal, not listening."
Listening in on what could be possibly be top secret NASA information is not illegal?..Didn't the hams allegedly hear conversations that the public was not privy to?
"Listening in on what could be possibly be top secret NASA information is not illegal?"
That depends on how you do it. If you had a wiretap on NASA's phones, that would be illegal. If you picked up unencrypted radio waves NASA was broadcasting from the moon, that would be legal.
"Didn't the hams allegedly hear conversations that the public was not privy to?"
It's not illegal to hear a conversation, especially if the conversation is broadcast to the entire moon facing side of the world.
"It's not illegal to hear a conversation, especially if the conversation is broadcast to the entire moon facing side of the world."
Which means that if the ham operators heard EXACTLY what the rest of the world heard, from the NASA broadcasts, then there is NO PROOF that any ham operators ever listened in on Apollo using their radios, which were usually tuned to a differecnt frequency.
why isnt there a delay from nasa when beaming commands to Nauts on moon? you cant answer that, but on earth there are 3 sec delays to middle east? you are caught once again as a paid shill LMAO
pt.. Check out what zakabog's dumb "girlfriend" posted on his profile page
"Your videos suck and you should stop spending so much time arguing if the moon is real or not or whatever it is you do on here. God. Lameass. NOBODY WOULD EVER DATE YOU!!!!!
NOW thats funny, esp. when these doofs try to bring sex and their machismo into posts like antimoron2 does ... these guys have prob never played a sport and are fat slobs, let alone look like dr seuss characters
Since I had the day off today I decided to do a little experiment with you.. I posted comments to you ALL DAY LONG to see how fast it would take you to reply and if you would ever take a break.. You replied to each of my comments IMMEDIATELY and NEVER took a break.
Which proves that this either IS your job, you have NO job, or your obessive little one up game has completely taken over your life.
"Since I had the day off today I decided to do a little experiment with you.. I posted comments to you ALL DAY LONG to see how fast it would take you to reply and if you would ever take a break.. "
You wasted your day off posting comments on youtube, at least I was stuck at the office, what's your excuse?
I've finished wasting my time responding to your troll nonsense here zakaborg.. but here's a message from Jarrah that you might want to heed if you plan on continuing to spew your silly disinformation here, and play your obsessive little "one up" game on his chanel.
"You can tell zakabog he has 48hrs to retract his accusations of my being dumb and or a liar."
Oh, and that message from him came into my PM box yesterday.
Those are the facts, whether you like them or not.
"You wasted your day off posting comments on youtube, at least I was stuck at the office, what's your excuse?"
You were stuck at the office? I wasn't going to reply to you anymore, but I was just wondering exaclty what kind of work you do to be able to post silly replies on YouTube IMMEDIATELY, ALL DAY LONG, WITHOUT EVEN TAKING A BREAK, and I assume get paid for it, since you're "stuck at the office" ?
I've had office jobs before but none where I was paid to "debunk" the Apollo Moon Hoax.
"...I was just wondering exaclty what kind of work you do to be able to post silly replies on YouTube IMMEDIATELY, ALL DAY LONG, WITHOUT EVEN TAKING A BREAK, and I assume get paid for it, since you're "stuck at the office" ?"
You posted 46 replies, the average time it took me to write a reply was under 3 minutes, that would be little more than 2 hours. I worked 12 hours that day so thats less than 20% of my time, most of which was software compile time (I'm a computer programmer.)
"You posted 46 replies, the average time it took me to write a reply was under 3 minutes, that would be little more than 2 hours."
You're "girlfriend" is right zakabog... You really do need to get a life away from "arguing about if the moon is real or not or whatever it is you do on here. God. Lameass. NOBODY WOULD EVER DATE YOU!!!!! "
Any thoughts I had about you possibly being a paid shill got completely erased by her few VERY REVEALING words about you.. Even she knows you're a loser.
"Any thoughts I had about you possibly being a paid shill got completely erased by her few VERY REVEALING words about you.. Even she knows you're a loser."
It took you 20 hours to come up with that lame explanation as to why your "girlfriend" won't date you? .. You're really slipping .. Usually you reply in a matter of minutes.
"It took you 20 hours to come up with that lame explanation as to why your "girlfriend" won't date you? .. You're really slipping .. Usually you reply in a matter of minutes.
Maybe you had the day off from "work"."
Check the weather in the north eastern US, there was a huge snow storm yesterday, I drive a Ford Mustang GT, I trust you can piece together the rest yourself.
"Check the weather in the north eastern US, there was a huge snow storm yesterday, I drive a Ford Mustang GT, I trust you can piece together the rest yourself. "
Because I'm actually in the office today, I'm stuck in front of a computer again. I've explained this before I get a popup every time I get a new e-mail on AIM, and I usually only get e-mails on that account from youtube. Yesterday I was not in the office due to the weather, and unlike some people who are obsessed but can't admit it, I used my time off for better things than posting comments on youtube.
Plus like you said, you had the whole day off to post replies (which is a waste of a day off), so you posted a lot more than usual.
On the 24th you posted 4, on the 23rd there was 9, on the 22nd it was 4 again. you were the only one to reply to me on those days. On the 21st there were 3 people (Grumblingone and Aurinkohirvi and yourself) with a total of 15 replies, which is 1/3rd the number of replies, or at the 3 minute average reply time, 6% of my usual 12 hour work day.
"On the 24th you posted 4, on the 23rd there was 9, on the 22nd it was 4 again. you were the only one to reply to me on those days. On the 21st there were 3 people (Grumblingone and Aurinkohirvi and yourself) with a total of 15 replies, which is 1/3rd the number of replies, or at the 3 minute average reply time, 6% of my usual 12 hour work day."
LOL.. You're not a government agent, you're just insane! .. You actually counted my comments to you !?!? .. I really have seen everything now !!!
"...Or did your "e-mail client " maybe tally them for you?"
Yes
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"Nevermind.. The the fact that you actually clocked my replies shows how obsessed you are with this silly little game of yours. "
I was pointing out that I spend a fraction of my time at the office doing this, whereas you spent an entire day off at the computer just to "test" me, and you call me obsessed? You even claimed you would no longer reply to me, what happened with that?
"I was pointing out that I spend a fraction of my time at the office doing this, whereas you spent an entire day off at the computer just to "test" me, and you call me obsessed? "
I'll tell you what obsessed is ...You reply to EVERY comment in a matter of minutes, while pretending to be at the "office".
I sure wish I had a job where I had nothing to do but play on U-T all day long and get paid for it.
When you're playing your little troll game with the Apollo Hoax evidence, you're Johnny on the spot with your silly replies, but when your dumb "girlfriend" exposes you for the obsessed little troll you really are, it takes you 20 hours to come up with an excuse as to why she as much as called you a loser.
So why would your "girlfriend" care how you spend your time "at the office" ?
"When you're playing your little troll game with the Apollo Hoax evidence, you're Johnny on the spot with your silly replies..."
The content has nothing to do with how long it takes me to reply. None of the comments I've replied to today had anything to do with Apollo yet they were quick. On weekends I don't reply, same thing with holidays (around new years you noted my 3 day absence). The fact is I'm not at work those days and when I'm not at work I don't spend much time online.
"The content has nothing to do with how long it takes me to reply. None of the comments I've replied to today had anything to do with Apollo yet they were quick."
You think three hours is quick, when your typical repy time is usually between one to three minutes??? .. Too Funny!
"Sorry, but you're not important enough for me to note your absence.. but congrats on taking New Years off. "
Someone pointed out that I hadn't replied in days, then you came along and said something like "Yeah I was about to say that but then he [me] posted on another video." You really have no idea how obsessed you are with this do you?
"Someone pointed out that I hadn't replied in days, then you came along and said something like "Yeah I was about to say that but then he [me] posted on another video."
You expect me to remember a comment I posted weeks ago as a joke? Amazing.
"You really have no idea how obsessed you are with this do you? "
Actually, I do and that's why my comments about you being obsessed with this subject were accurate. You post here much more frequently than I do, at a speed that boggles the mind.
"The fact is I'm not at work those days and when I'm not at work I don't spend much time online."
Apparently your "girlfriend" thinks otherwise, or she wouldn't being bitching about how much time you waste on YouTube, arguing about if the moon is real or not... LOL
No it wasn't, your point was that I'm obsessed, all of my replies are within minutes and I pretend to be at work. How do you explain that all of my comments are made on weekdays during normal working hours?
How about you? After coming to the conclusion that I must be a troll you stated you'd no longer play "these games" yet you've not been able to stop replying to my comments, you even spent your day off posting replies just to "test" me.
"How about you? After coming to the conclusion that I must be a troll you stated you'd no longer play "these games" yet you've not been able to stop replying to my comments, you even spent your day off posting replies just to "test" me. "
I keep replying because it's so much fun beating you at your own game... So the few hours I spent doing it on my day off was well worth it.
jezzus christ xD what a fuckin idiot!!! maybe think with your head not dick man!!!
do you have any IQ and a proove with sense to disprove this films? give me all possible explanations and then u can talk shit like "Seriously, do something on your days off, read a book, go outside, meet some friends. " it prooves how riddicoulos you are xD sory for my english.
"So why would your "girlfriend" care how you spend your time "at the office" ?
Oh wait,... she wouldn't."
I have a laptop that she uses frequently, generally it's at her place, if it's not there then it's with me at the office. Sometimes she leaves her account logged in and I'll accidentally post a comment from her account, then she'll get an e-mail when there's a reply and think it's from someone she wants to talk to, when she sees it's just a youtube comment she gets annoyed.
"I have a laptop that she uses frequently, generally it's at her place, if it's not there then it's with me at the office. Sometimes she leaves her account logged in and I'll accidentally post a comment from her account, then she'll get an e-mail when there's a reply and think it's from blah blah blah blah."
Nice one! .. And it only took you three hours to dream that one up, too!
Maybe you better stick with Apollo .. At least your bullshit replies are faster.
Well, I think Jarrah blocked me from posting replies to his videos, so I guess this is my last one.
Anyway, of all the hoax believers I actually had some respect for you. I thought you were smarter than them, I felt like you just got brainwashed into believing this crap and you just needed someone to show you the way.
Have a good life, and seriously consider researching the points Jarrah brings up in his videos, maybe he'll listen when you point out he's wrong?
"Well, I think Jarrah blocked me from posting replies to his videos, so I guess this is my last one."
If you didn't want to be blocked, all you had to do was to retract your comment about him being a liar, and or dumb.. You chose not to.. and I highly doubt this will be your last comment here.
"Anyway, of all the hoax believers I actually had some respect for you. I thought you were smarter than them, I felt like you just got brainwashed into believing this crap and you just needed someone to show you the way."
If you think I believe Apollo was some kind of hoax because I was brainwashed, you're very much mistaken.. I believe what I do after years of research, mostly on NASA sites, where it's VERY obvious that something is VERY wrong with the official record.
"Have a good life, and seriously consider researching the points Jarrah brings up in his videos, maybe he'll listen when you point out he's wrong?"
If any of Jarrah's evidence is wrong, not only will it be pointed out to him by those who oppose him, but it will be corrected by him if it's proven to be incorrect.
That's the thing I admire the most about him.. He admits if he's made a mistake and then either corrects it or retracts it. Something which the other side is incapable of doing.
Conspiracy theorists don't like other opinions in their holy house. That's why most of the subscribers pointing them at their dumb and lonely struggle for "truth" are blocked. Like I am going to be soon.
Your comment is not true and is overly generalized. Personally I hope you are right but I see no reason to believe you or your fellow nasa lickspittles.
"Which of course has nothing to do with allegedly receiving transmissions from the Moon."
I was illustrating the point that being outside amateur radio frequencies does not make a signal exotic. It's still just radio waves and there's nothing special about listening to signals outside the amateur radio frequency allocations.
You keep forgetting that my point was that Jarrah said it was impossible to listen to the frequencies, with no regard as to where they came from.
"So far you haven't shown any proof that Jarrah was "REALLY DUMB" or " A LIAR", or even mistaken about the ham operators not receiving signals from the Moon."
Pay attention, that's not the claim I'm trying to debunk, it's his claim that it would have been impossible for them to pick up a signal on the 3ghz band because of some document he found. My point is that the document is a frequency allocation chart NOT a chart with the physical restrictions of an antenna.
"Pay attention, that's not the claim I'm trying to debunk, it's his claim that it would have been impossible for them to pick up a signal on the 3ghz band because of some document he found. My point is that the document is a frequency allocation chart NOT a chart with the physical restrictions of an antenna."
Have you directed the claim you're trying to debunk to Jarrah?
He would be in a much better position to defend himself against your claim that he's "really dumb" or 'lying", right?
"Have you directed the claim you're trying to debunk to Jarrah?"
I put a comment on the video (which youtube notifies him of just the same as if I sent him a message), he didn't reply, and he rarely replies to my messages so I figured he didn't have time to respond.
"He would be in a much better position to defend himself..."
Sure but you asked for an example, and if you look at the evidence yourself (or talk with anyone that deals with radio signals) you'll see I'm correct.
zakabog... If you had watched Jarrah's well researched and documented 12 part video here, you know know the correct answers to some of the ridiculous claims you make here.
It's come to everyone's attention that you deliberately play dumb, just to keep an argument going, and ALWAYS have to have the final world about everything.
That is what trolls do .. I've been watching all of your replies come in within a matter of a few minutes, which shows what your silly "one up" game is all about.
"One last point to note is that even though the pictures alternated between the three * NASA CONTROLLED* stations before settling on Parkes, the voice downlink that was used throughout the broadcast was exclusively from Goldstone."
"One last point to note is that even though the pictures alternated between the three * NASA CONTROLLED* stations before settling on Parkes"
You haven't established that NASA controlled Parkes at all. Every employee in charge of receiving the signal that was named in the article you pasted was a Parkes employee. The "BOSSES" who you think all work for NASA were the higher ups at Parkes, John Bolton worked for Parkes not NASA.
On 21 July 1969 at 12:54:00 (AEST) Aldrin pushed in the TV circuit breakers and activated the lunar television camera. All three stations received the TV SIMULTANEOUSLY. At Goldstone and Honeysuckle Creek the pictures were scan-converted to the EIA (NTSC) commercial standard TV at the tracking stations themselves, but the Parkes pictures were scan-converted at the OTC Paddington terminal in Sydney...cont.
The airline pilot who reported this is anonymous so this isn't evidence,ok so this applied to Apollo 15 not earlier missions which JW says there is evidence that they stayed in LEO but does not provide any such evidence
So the capsule was dropped over the ocean by C5-A cargo plane? 6 months before the first C5-A plane was completed and delivered to the Air force? that couldn't have been easy!
Why doesn't Bill Kaysing have the recording of the guy who said "I agree with you 100%" that claimed to have seen the capsule dropped from a plane? Radio broadcasts are recorded, he could have requested that clip, or talked further with that pilot to verify that he was really in the air at the time (the FAA keeps records of flights, so do pilots), it would have added a lot of weight to Kaysings arguments.
Let me guess Zak, you can't imagine a guy gettng fired from his airline pilot job for being on the record with a statement like that eh? NOt only do you lack critical thinking skills, but now you also prove to be naive as well as ignorant!
"Let me guess Zak, you can't imagine a guy gettng fired from his airline pilot job for being on the record with a statement like that eh?"
The guy has no problem calling a public radio show where anyone who knows him will recognize his voice, where NASA can easily find out who he is based on his flight logs (as they could just go and find out what passengers planes would have been in the area at that time) but he has a problem telling Bill Kaysing who he is and offering physical evidence?
Ya, all the people he works with listen to the same radio show. You are easily the dumbest f*cker with the most inane bullshit yet. Why don't you go work out the only muscles you have that work Zak?
"Ya, all the people he works with listen to the same radio show."
So you're saying it's so highly improbable for two people who work together to listen to the same radio show that it's not even worth mentioning? You're the one who suggested he might get fired for giving his name, well if no one's listening then what's the big deal?
I'm only pointing out that him giving his name isn't the only way they can find out who he is.
"Your used up, as is your excuses and lack of substance..."
Translation: "Look I know my theories on why he wouldn't give his name or why Kaysing didn't have a recording of the conversation WHICH WAS BROADCAST PUBLICLY ON THE RADIO are ridiculous but I have to do anything to show that Bill Kaysing was not lying so making up lame excuses and then only commenting that you're out of excuses when you've done nothing but poke hole in my very own excuses is all I am really capable of doing."
"Well, your word is about as good as your bullshit excuses..."
Okay, maybe you don't understand something
I asked you a legitimate question about why Bill Kaysing wouldn't have an audio recording or the name of someone he talked to during a radio broadcast he was on and your answer was the guy talking in the broadcast didn't want to get fired, and I'm the one with the excuses?
Okay how about this, what's the name of the radio program he was on?
"HOw about you ask someone who doesn't mind corresponding with a lying NASA apollogist?"
Jarrah made the video and used Kaysings claims to backup evidence without ever showing that the claim was true.
"Or why don't you hire a medium and ask Bill yourself asshole!"
Because they have just as much chance of talking to the dead as my cat does, except when the cat gets something wrong it doesn't cost me anything and I can easily shrug it off as "Well what did you expect, she's just a cat."
"Well, your word is about as good as your bullshit excuses.."
Amen to that brother! Keep singing, cuz the choir is listening!.. LOL
"So, anyone who has dealt with you knows they can dismiss it immediately!"
Considering zakbog's young age and the silly "girlfried" company he keeps, I think we need to cut this dummy some slack. Instead of him being a programmed NASA Cyborg shill, I do believe he's just a garden variety TROLL with nothing better to do with his life than to bust our chops.
"I do believe he's just a garden variety TROLL with nothing better to do with his life than to bust our chops." Well, he has admitted to as much before. I don't remember him admitting to the Troll nature of it, but anyone who has the intestinal fortitude to sit through his droll, troll postings on Jarrah's videos alone can attest to it.
Wait!.. It can't be!! .. It's almost noon on Monday and so far Cyborg zak hasn't replied to ALL of our comments!?! .. Oh dear un4g, do you think he may have been reassigned to a different Apollo Moon Hoax forum?
It must be his unrelenting tenacity to spread as much bullshit as possible on top of excellent videos proving the hoax for what it was that keeps him employed...
"It must be his unrelenting tenacity to spread as much bullshit as possible on top of excellent videos proving the hoax for what it was that keeps him employed..."
Is zakabog the only pro Apollo troll to show up on Jarrah's new video?.. Usually they can't wait to attack him, and pounce on him like a pack of rabid pit bulls.
I wonder where all the other propagandist attack dogs are?
They know better. They probably don't want their lies showing up in Jarrah's next video making them look like the pack of bullshitters they have always prove themselves to be. Look at poor plait, windley, and oberg. Total buffoons, and propagandists called out by Jarrah. Zak doesn't really care, as long as he has his gym membership...LOL
"Translation: "Look I know my theories on why he wouldn't give his name or why Kaysing didn't have a recording of the conversation WHICH WAS BROADCAST PUBLICLY ON THE RADIO are ridiculous but I have to do anything to show that Bill Kaysing was not lying so making up lame excuses and then only commenting that you're out of excuses when you've done nothing but blah blah blah."
Translation: Jarrah's video destroys Apollo on every level, so I need to post as many distraction tactics as possible.
"Translation: Jarrah's video destroys Apollo on every level, so I need to post as many distraction tactics as possible."
Of course, asking for evidence is a distraction tactic. Perhaps you know the name of the radio show or have some evidence of the conversation with the pilot having ever taken place?
JFK's assassination his brother's, to Apollo and then 9/11 were government inside jobs. The American people have no idea what slaves they've become who daily take the blue pill then grab their ankles.
mujaku 1 month ago
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TheFireForEffect 5 months ago
millitary used vidio tape to con all humanity...the oswald assasionartion is fake to.....
aifammafiaaifam 10 months ago
ROFL! What a crock of shit. All the angles covered - and not a crumb of evidence.
So many different departments and technologies involved, but Kaysing has the inside story on all of them.
Get a life Jarrah. You're doing an awesome job of wasting this one.
timpovikings 10 months ago
Again, same typical hoaxhead argument: It's conceivable, therefore it had to happen. It's imaginative, but nothing more. There's no meat--no tangible evidence of this theory.
So, were the astronauts kept on the moon or somehow in low earth orbit (mysteriously untracked by anyone)? Which is it?
And an airline pilot was allowed into that airspace? Close enough to identify a C5A? Close enough to see parachutes deployed literally miles lower in altitude? How ridiculous! No. Did not happen!
LunarTuner 1 year ago
2ghz doesn't neccesarily imply 2.000ghz
SenJunkieEinstein 1 year ago
it's pronounced 'daytuh'; shed-yul; but mor kudos to you, mate.
muskier 1 year ago
Hey, if you picked up a telephone that was connected to these overhead power lines at 6:41 you'd blow your ears off. Dont worry though, we know what you mean.
moonscam 2 years ago
I notice how zakabong got around the initial blocking, by changing his "o" to a "0"... How pathetic is that???
The guy was blocked for insulting, and he cannot figure out why??? Pathetic indeed.
If any other propagandists don't like what they see in here because it puts a dent into their pride filled perfect world, then there are still plenty of " I love Apollo " fairy tale websites available for them to peruse.
northerntruthseeker 3 years ago 8
straydog.... I just read that same quote over there in his profile page...
I actually feel sorry for the guy.... A paid shill by NASA and he spends his life now defending the Apollo lie! So sad indeed...
northerntruthseeker 3 years ago
I have a question for you zakabog.
Do you think that Jarrah White has lied about the documented Apollo tracking evidence, that he has presented in his video here ?
Or to be more to the point, do you believe that Jarrah White is a liar?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Do you think that Jarrah White has lied about the documented Apollo tracking evidence, that he has presented in his video here ?"
Got a specific example? Like some specific statement Jarrah White made?
"Or to be more to the point, do you believe that Jarrah White is a liar?"
Well for some of the information presented in this video it's one of two things, he's either lying, or he's not very bright.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Got a specific example? Like some specific statement Jarrah White made?"
How about his claim that nobody outside of NASA ever tracked any of the Apollo craft to the Moon, including the Soviets, or Jodrell Bank, with their 50 ft dish.
straydog02 3 years ago
"How about his claim that nobody outside of NASA ever tracked any of the Apollo craft to the Moon, including the Soviets, or Jodrell Bank, with their 50 ft dish."
Okay did he use that paragraph about an Interview with some guy from Jodrell Bank from whatever moon hoax book it was in as proof that Jodrell Bank did not track Apollo or did he find some new evidence? If he found some new evidence, what part of the video is it in?
zakabog 3 years ago
"Okay did he use that paragraph about an Interview with some guy from Jodrell Bank from whatever moon hoax book it was in as proof that Jodrell Bank did not track Apollo or did he find some new evidence?"
The book was Dark Moon and the answer is both.
Jarrah provided information that the 50 ft dish was not able to track any craft to the Moon .. Only the 250 ft dish had that capability and as we all know, it was used to track and document the missions that really did go to the Moon.. Luna.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Jarrah provided information that the 50 ft dish was not able to track any craft to the Moon .. Only the 250 ft dish had that capability and as we all know, it was used to track and document the missions that really did go to the Moon.. Luna."
Which part of the video shows the evidence that the 50' dish was incapable of tracking anything to the moon?
zakabog 3 years ago
"Which part of the video shows the evidence that the 50' dish was incapable of tracking anything to the moon? "
I don't remember, but since you've managed to spread your silly comments on almost every part of Jarrah's video, I assumed you had already seen the evidence that Jodrell Bank's 50 ft dish couldn't have tracked Apollo to the Moon.. We've also discussed before, that JB has NO DOCUMENTED DATA OF EVER TRACKING APOLLO, WHILE IT HAS MANY PAGES OF DOCUMENTATION ON RUSSIA'S LUNA MISSIONS.
straydog02 3 years ago
"I don't remember, but since you've managed to spread your silly comments on almost every part of Jarrah's video..."
Well apparently I missed that one, do you have a general idea of where it might be? I wouldn't want to skip through every video and potentially miss it.
Do you vaguely remember what the proof was that the dish couldn't track anything to the moon?
"...JB has NO DOCUMENTED DATA OF EVER TRACKING APOLLO..."
Other than the landing chart, but they were never paid to track Apollo.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Well apparently I missed that one, do you have a general idea of where it might be? I wouldn't want to skip through every video and potentially miss it."
Sorry, but I won't do your homework for you.. If you have enough time to play your silly "one up" game here, and post your false accusations that Jarrah is a stupid liar, then you have enough time to watch his whole video, proving once and for all, on every level, that APOLLO WAS A HOAX.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Sorry, but I won't do your homework for you.. "
I told you what part of the video my evidence was in, if you're going to try and prove a point I would expect you to do at least some of the legwork.
"and post your false accusations that Jarrah is a stupid liar"
I said he is either stupid or a liar, I didn't say he was both.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Do you vaguely remember what the proof was that the dish couldn't track anything to the moon?"
It wasn't large enough to track a craft that far out.
"Other than the landing chart, but they were never paid to track Apollo."
Anyone , including Ian Morrison, can draw a chart .. That is NOT the same thing as DETAILED, DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE, like what was done for all of the Luna missions.
Face it, neiither NASA or Jodrell Bank has any real proof that they ever tracked an Apollo craft.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Anyone , including Ian Morrison, can draw a chart .. That is NOT the same thing as DETAILED, DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE, like what was done for all of the Luna missions."
I'd like to make a comment that Apollo also has detailed documented evidence but you'll just say it was all made up, which brings me to my second point.
Anyone can write detailed, documented evidence, that doesn't mean anything.
zakabog 3 years ago
"I'd like to make a comment that Apollo also has detailed documented evidence but you'll just say it was all made up, which brings me to my second point."
There is NO DETAILED, DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF APOLLO OUTSIDE OF NASA !!!! .. That is the entire point!!!
"Anyone can write detailed, documented evidence, that doesn't mean anything."
Are you now claiming that Jodrell Bank's Space Tracking History web site, where they have DOCUMENTED ALL OF THE LUNA MISSIONS, doesn't mean anything?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Are you now claiming that Jodrell Bank's Space Tracking History web site, where they have DOCUMENTED ALL OF THE LUNA MISSIONS, doesn't mean anything?"
Two things, one it's not Jodrell Bank's own document, it's from Sven Grahn, it was on his website and since it spoke of Jodrell Bank they probably figured they should put it on their own website (I'm sure with his permission.)
Two, my point is that writing about something does not make it true. I shouldn't even have to tell you that.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Two, my point is that writing about something does not make it true. I shouldn't even have to tell you that."
Then you admit that NASA's SELF SERVING webs sites, which claim that Apollo astronauts landed on the Moon, is not necessarily true.. Especially since the ONLY "documentation" about any of the Apollo "missions" comes directly from NASA , and then copied to other sources.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Then you admit that NASA's SELF SERVING webs sites, which claim that Apollo astronauts landed on the Moon, is not necessarily true..."
No, just that the website alone is not proof of anything, you need more information than that.
zakabog 3 years ago
"No, just that the website alone is not proof of anything, you need more information than that."
Exactly! .. Yet the ONLY "proof" that NASA has of landing their Apollo astronots on the Moon, comes from NASA and their self serving web sites, with NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!
Which means, even according to your own standards, that NASA has no real proof of landing men on the Moon during Project Apollo.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Yet the ONLY "proof" that NASA has of landing their Apollo astronots on the Moon, comes from NASA and their self serving web sites, with NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!"
[sarcasm]Yes, and before the internet no one had any idea what Apollo was because there were no web sites to tell them. And that team that found water in the Apollo rocks, Jarrah was obviously lying about that because "[there was] NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!"[/sarcasm]
zakabog 3 years ago
"[sarcasm]Yes, and before the internet no one had any idea what Apollo was because there were no web sites to tell them. And that team that found water in the Apollo rocks, Jarrah was obviously lying about that because "[there was] NO INDEPENDENT VERIFICATION WHATSOEVER!"[/sarcasm] "
Sorry, but your [sarcasm] is not only desperate, but it sucks!
straydog02 3 years ago
"Sorry, but your [sarcasm] is not only desperate, but it sucks!"
What a verbose, well thought out response to my comment regarding the absurdity of your claim that NASA and their websites are the only evidence that man landed on the moon. Unfortunately it does not address the fact that Jarrah's video invalidates your claim that there was no independent verification by showing just such a verification at the beginning of his 12 part video series.
zakabog 3 years ago
"It wasn't large enough to track a craft that far out."
Interesting, this website here says you can bounce a signal from earth to the moon back to earth with a 10' dish -
tinyurl[dot]com/ajsf97
"...Keep in mind a 10 foot (3 m) dish is considered the absolute minimum in dish size at 1296 MHz for doing EME, or moon bounce..."
I'm sure there's some physics calculation out there you can use to determine the minimum dish size, and I'm sure Jarrah didn't bother to find it.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Interesting, this website here says you can bounce a signal from earth to the moon back to earth with a 10' dish -"
We're not talking about "bouncing signals from earth to the moon".. We're talking about tracking a craft to the Moon ... Big difference.
"I'm sure there's some physics calculation out there you can use to determine the minimum dish size, and I'm sure Jarrah didn't bother to find it."
Why would he bother with something that isn't relevant to tracking a craft to the Moon?
straydog02 3 years ago
"We're not talking about "bouncing signals from earth to the moon".. We're talking about tracking a craft to the Moon ... Big difference."
Yeah tracking would take far less power, since you only need to receive a signal. To bounce a signal you need to first send it.
"Why would he bother with something that isn't relevant to tracking a craft to the Moon? "
It has everything to do with tracking a craft, he has to determine the minimum size antenna required to receive the signal from the craft.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Yeah tracking would take far less power, since you only need to receive a signal. To bounce a signal you need to first send it."
LOL.. So then why wasn't every amateur with a 10 ft dish tracking the Apollo craft to the Moon?
"It has everything to do with tracking a craft, he has to determine the minimum size antenna required to receive the signal from the craft. "
The ONLY antennas capable of tracking a craft during Apollo was NASA's Deep Space Network & Jodrell Banks's 250 ft dish.
straydog02 3 years ago
"LOL.. So then why wasn't every amateur with a 10 ft dish tracking the Apollo craft to the Moon?"
The people who could track the Apollo craft to the moon probably were doing just that (I've previously shown you a story of a group that tracked Apollo 17 to the moon last time we talked about Jodrell Bank), there was just far less people back then with access to the equipment necessary to do it.
"The ONLY antennas capable..."
By your own admission Jarrah didn't do the calculations to prove that.
zakabog 3 years ago
"The people who could track the Apollo craft to the moon probably were doing just that (I've previously shown you a story of a group that tracked Apollo 17 to the moon last time we talked about Jodrell Bank),"
So it's just "probably" now ??
If you're referring to Bill Keels, with his home made backyard telescope and the yahoos who were with him, then you're story is just a story with no verification, except wishful thinking and some lights in low earth orbit that could have been anything.
straydog02 3 years ago
"So it's just "probably" now ?? "
Yes "probably did it", as opposed to Jarrah's statement of "couldn't do it", which is known to be a false statement because there's no reason amateurs couldn't do it.
"f you're referring to Bill Keels, with his home made backyard telescope and the yahoos who were with him"
No, I'm referring to Sven Grahn (you know the guy that did the writeup of Jodrell Bank's tracking history that you like referring to.)
zakabog 3 years ago
"Yes "probably did it", as opposed to Jarrah's statement of "couldn't do it", which is known to be a false statement because there's no reason amateurs couldn't do it."
Yet there is no proof that they did .. What are the names of the ham operators who suppossedly listened in on Apollo astronot transmissions, and where are the transcripts of these alleged, overheard conversations?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Yet there is no proof that they did .. "
That doesn't matter since that's not my point. My point is that Jarrah was wrong, or lied when he said it would have been impossible for an amateur to pick up the signal. That's it, it doesn't matter if anyone did or did not, the fact that it was (and still is) possible invalidates Jarrah's claim.
zakabog 3 years ago
"That doesn't matter since that's not my point. My point is that Jarrah was wrong, or lied when he said it would have been impossible for an amateur to pick up the signal."
Now you're resorting to calling Jarrah a liar again?
For the life of me I don't know why he allows you to continue to spew your trollish disinformation and insults of him on his chanel.
Maybe it's because you're one of the few Apollo propagandist/ parrots stupid enough to argue about things you know nothing about.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Now you're resorting to calling Jarrah a liar again?"
No, I said he was wrong, OR lied. It's definitely one of the two but I'm not claiming both.
zakabog 3 years ago
"No, I said he was wrong, OR lied. It's definitely one of the two but I'm not claiming both. "
Why on earth would Jarrah lie about any of this, knowing that "honest" "truth seekers" like you and the rest of the clavius creeps, will just expose his many lies? [sarcasm]
straydog02 3 years ago
"Why on earth would Jarrah lie about any of this, knowing that "honest" "truth seekers" like you and the rest of the clavius creeps, will just expose his many lies?"
Why on earth would Jarrah be so wrong on such a simple point?
"... [sarcasm]"
You have to put the elements starting tag before the content, not after.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Why on earth would Jarrah be so wrong on such a simple point?"
Why on earth are you and the rest of the propagandist parrots the only ones claiming that he's wrong?
"You have to put the elements starting tag before the content, not after."
Says who?.. The U-T police? LOL
straydog02 3 years ago
"Why on earth are you and the rest of the propagandist parrots the only ones claiming that he's wrong?"
Because on that particular point he is wrong as anyone with a "cantenna" would tell you.
"Says who?.. The U-T police? LOL"
W3C, you surround the content with a start tag and a close tag. Not that it matters I was only busting your balls on a non-issue because I was getting bored of your failure to understand FCC regulations and radio basics.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Why on earth are you and the rest of the propagandist parrots the only ones claiming that he's wrong?"
Sorry, I missed the word "only".
Most likely because you immediately label anyone who thinks Jarrah is wrong as a "propagandist." If the entire youtube community came one by one posting the reasons Jarrah was wrong you'd call them all propagandists and you'd be able to make the same claim (only propagandists claim Jarrah is wrong.)
zakabog 3 years ago
" By your own admission Jarrah didn't do the calculations to prove that."
Jarrah did provide the calculations that Jodrell Bank's 50 ft dish could not have tracked Apollo to the Moon.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Jarrah did provide the calculations that Jodrell Bank's 50 ft dish could not have tracked Apollo to the Moon."
So then why did you say
"Why would he bother with something that isn't relevant to tracking a craft to the Moon?"
when I claimed he didn't do the calculations necessary?
Mind pointing me to where I can find Jarrah's calculations?
zakabog 3 years ago
"Well for some of the information presented in this video it's one of two things, he's either lying, or he's not very bright. "
Even when he presents documented evidence, proving once and for all that NASA has lied about many aspects of Apollo ?
Why would you consider that to be "not bright" or "lying"?
Do you have any specific example of where Jarrah has lied?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Do you have any specific example of where Jarrah has lied? "
Well like I said, either lied or is not very bright, watch Part 9 of this series starting around the 5:50 mark. He shows a document that "proves" ham operators couldn't pick up the signal. What he fails to realize (or does realize and is lying about) is that the chart is only for broadcast frequencies. The frequencies are defined by the FCC in order to avoid conflicting signals, but they have nothing to do with physical restrictions.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Well like I said, either lied or is not very bright, watch Part 9 of this series starting around the 5:50 mark. He shows a document that "proves" ham operators couldn't pick up the signal. What he fails to realize (or does realize and is lying about) is that the chart is only for broadcast frequencies."
Do you have any proof for that claim, or are you just parroting more typical propaganda?
So you think that Jarrah is either stupid or lying because of the ham radio evidence?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Do you have any proof for that claim..."
Besides FM radios, cordless phones, wireless laptops, TV sets with the bunny ears, the laws of physics, etc.?
Well there's this chart showing frequency allocations -
[w][w][w][dot]ntia[dot]doc[dot]gov/osmhome/allochrt[dot]pdf
"So you think that Jarrah is either stupid or lying because of the ham radio evidence?"
Well you asked for one example and that was one example.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Besides FM radios, cordless phones, wireless laptops, TV sets with the bunny ears, the laws of physics, etc.?"
Exaclty how do those things prove that amateur ham radio operators were able to receive signals from the Moon?
"Well you asked for one example and that was one example. "
So you think because Jarrah stated that these ham operators couldn't receive a signal from the Moon, that he's a stupid liar? IF he's ever proven wrong on that point, couldn't it be because he was mistaken?
straydog02 3 years ago
""Besides FM radios, cordless phones, wireless laptops, TV sets with the bunny ears, the laws of physics, etc.?"
Exaclty how do those things prove that amateur ham radio operators were able to receive signals from the Moon? "
They don't, they prove that Jarrah's claim was wrong, that's what you asked for proof for remember?
Jarrah's claim in that part of the video was that ham operators could not have possibly picked up a signal in the 3GHz band and his proof was a frequency allocation chart.
zakabog 3 years ago
"So you think because Jarrah stated that these ham operators couldn't receive a signal from the Moon, that he's a stupid liar? IF he's ever proven wrong on that point, couldn't it be because he was mistaken?"
I said he's either lying or really dumb. If it was a mistake then it would fall into the really dumb category. I can rename it "mistaken" if that helps.
zakabog 3 years ago
"I said he's either lying or really dumb. If it was a mistake then it would fall into the really dumb category. I can rename it "mistaken" if that helps."
Saying that he was mistaken is NOT the same as saying he is "REALLY DUMB." Obviously he is not dumb, nor a liar.. but of course it suits your purposes to have people believe that.
So far you haven't shown any proof that Jarrah was "REALLY DUMB" or " A LIAR", or even mistaken about the ham operators not receiving signals from the Moon.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Saying that he was mistaken is NOT the same as saying he is "REALLY DUMB." "
If Jarrah finds some document that says sticking a fork in an electrical socket is perfectly safe, then passes it off as evidence that teachers are lying to students, would that not be both "mistaken" and "really dumb"?
It's the magnitude of the mistake that determines how "dumb" it was, I felt his mistake was "really dumb" but it's just a matter of opinion.
zakabog 3 years ago
"If Jarrah finds some document that says sticking a fork in an electrical socket is perfectly safe, then passes it off as evidence that teachers are lying to students, would that not be both "mistaken" and "really dumb"?"
What's REALLY DUMB are your silly analogies.
"It's the magnitude of the mistake that determines how "dumb" it was, I felt his mistake was "really dumb" but it's just a matter of opinion.
Yet you can't even prove that he made a "really dumb" mistake.. Interesting.
straydog02 3 years ago
"What's REALLY DUMB are your silly analogies."
The analogy is perfect, the magnitude of the mistake is far greater but the circumstances are exactly the same. I was only pointing out that mistakes can be really dumb sometimes. If I put a == instead of a != in some code, that's a really dumb mistake TO ME. To someone who doesn't understand what != means, then it's just a simple mistake.
"Yet you can't even prove that he made a "really dumb" mistake"
Physics already proves he was wrong.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Physics already proves he was wrong."
What physics proves he was wrong?
straydog02 3 years ago
"What physics proves he was wrong?"
The physics of antenna design. You can pick up a 3GHz signal with an empty can of pringles. You're not likely going to get a signal from the moon like that, but to say it's impossible for amateurs to pick up a signal in the 3GHz band is just wrong.
zakabog 3 years ago
"The physics of antenna design."
Where is the PROOF that amateur ham radio operators listened in on Apollo conversations near, or on the Moon ?
And why doesn't anyone, including top shill Phil Plait, know about it ( except for hearsay) .. or know about what alleged conversations they may have evesdropped in on?
Without any proof, all you have is more NASA propaganda.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Where is the PROOF that amateur ham radio operators listened in on Apollo conversations near, or on the Moon ?"
READ CAREFULLY as I've said this before -
"Pay attention, that's not the claim I'm trying to debunk, it's his claim that it would have been impossible for them to pick up a signal on the 3ghz band because of some document he found. My point is that the document is a frequency allocation chart NOT a chart with the physical restrictions of an antenna."
zakabog 3 years ago
"And why doesn't anyone, including top shill Phil Plait, know about it ( except for hearsay) .. or know about what alleged conversations they may have evesdropped in on?"
Well there's a website about tracking Apollo 17 to the moon written by Sven Grahn. Though I would assume most other people capable of tracking Apollo to the moon don't have their own website to tell the world about it, but you might be able to find information in astronomy magazines and publications from the time (60-70s).
zakabog 3 years ago
"Well there's a website about tracking Apollo 17 to the moon written by Sven Grahn"
Sven Ghran is not a ham operator...He's a member of the Swedish Space Agency (now a part of ESA). .. So what does he know about ham operators allegedly tracking Apollo craft to the moon, except for the NASA propaganda he's been force fed?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Sven Ghran is not a ham operator...He's a member of the Swedish Space Agency (now a part of ESA). .. So what does he know about ham operators allegedly tracking Apollo craft to the moon..."
Plenty as he was one of the operators -
tinyurl[dot]com/b8x8ja
I think this is where you say something like "He just picked up the relayed TETR-A signal" to which I reply "Thus proving Jarrah lied or was wrong when he said ham operators couldn't pick up the signals being broadcast from Apollo."
zakabog 3 years ago
"Plenty as he was one of the operators -
tinyurl[dot]com/b8x8ja"
So Sven is one of the hams who claims to have evesdropped on some of the Apollo conversations?
I will check out his article then to see if I can find out what he illegally might have overheard.
Or did he perhaps just hear what everyone did?.. Which of course is no proof that he listened in on conversations with his ham radio.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Though I would assume most other people capable of tracking Apollo to the moon don't have their own website to tell the world about it.."
Why not ?.. I would think they would be very proud of such accomplishments.. especially since it can't be done on the ham frequencies!
straydog02 3 years ago
"Why not ?.. I would think they would be very proud of such accomplishments.."
Yes and they probably wrote about it in publications FROM THAT TIME (remember this happened 40 years ago?)
"especially since it can't be done on the ham frequencies!"
You can't listen to your favorite FM radio station on the ham frequencies but you can easily pickup FM radio stations on a ham radio.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Yes and they probably wrote about it in publications FROM THAT TIME (remember this happened 40 years ago?)"
There's that word "probably" again.. So in other words, you have no proof that ham operators ever wrote about listiening in on the Apollo conversations from or near the Moon .. You're just assuming they might have written about them 40 years ago? ...LOL
straydog02 3 years ago
"So in other words, you have no proof that ham operators ever wrote about listiening in on the Apollo conversations from or near the Moon .."
Other than the write up (with photos and audio) from Sven, yes but only in response to your comment assuming they would want to have a website about the accomplishment. I feel it's more likely that they would have been proud 40 years ago and written about it then, not now (I'm sure if you e-mail Sven he can point you to something written from the time.)
zakabog 3 years ago
"I feel it's more likely that they would have been proud 40 years ago and written about it then, not now .."
Yet Sven is writing about it now.. So he must be very proud of his illegal, alleged accomplishments!
"I'm sure if you e-mail Sven he can point you to something written from the time.)"
Really?... Gee, 40 year old propaganda, instead of current propaganda.. What a treat!
straydog02 3 years ago
"So he must be very proud of his illegal, alleged accomplishments!"
Listening != broadcasting.
Broadcasting on those frequencies is illegal, not listening.
"Really?... Gee, 40 year old propaganda, instead of current propaganda.. What a treat!"
If you never wanted it then don't waste my time asking for it.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Broadcasting on those frequencies is illegal, not listening."
Listening in on what could be possibly be top secret NASA information is not illegal?..Didn't the hams allegedly hear conversations that the public was not privy to?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Listening in on what could be possibly be top secret NASA information is not illegal?"
That depends on how you do it. If you had a wiretap on NASA's phones, that would be illegal. If you picked up unencrypted radio waves NASA was broadcasting from the moon, that would be legal.
"Didn't the hams allegedly hear conversations that the public was not privy to?"
It's not illegal to hear a conversation, especially if the conversation is broadcast to the entire moon facing side of the world.
zakabog 3 years ago
"It's not illegal to hear a conversation, especially if the conversation is broadcast to the entire moon facing side of the world."
Which means that if the ham operators heard EXACTLY what the rest of the world heard, from the NASA broadcasts, then there is NO PROOF that any ham operators ever listened in on Apollo using their radios, which were usually tuned to a differecnt frequency.
Thanks once again for proving my point.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Which means that if the ham operators heard EXACTLY what the rest of the world heard, from the NASA broadcasts"
... yes that's my point, NASA was broadcasting from the moon and anyone with sufficient equipment could listen in.
zakabog 3 years ago
zaka,
why isnt there a delay from nasa when beaming commands to Nauts on moon? you cant answer that, but on earth there are 3 sec delays to middle east? you are caught once again as a paid shill LMAO
pt1gard 3 years ago
pt.. Check out what zakabog's dumb "girlfriend" posted on his profile page
"Your videos suck and you should stop spending so much time arguing if the moon is real or not or whatever it is you do on here. God. Lameass. NOBODY WOULD EVER DATE YOU!!!!!
Lurv,
Moonstones"
LMAO at this LOSER!
straydog02 3 years ago
NOW thats funny, esp. when these doofs try to bring sex and their machismo into posts like antimoron2 does ... these guys have prob never played a sport and are fat slobs, let alone look like dr seuss characters
pt1gard 3 years ago
"If you never wanted it then don't waste my time asking for it."
I'm wasting your time now ? ..Too funny!
straydog02 3 years ago
Since I had the day off today I decided to do a little experiment with you.. I posted comments to you ALL DAY LONG to see how fast it would take you to reply and if you would ever take a break.. You replied to each of my comments IMMEDIATELY and NEVER took a break.
Which proves that this either IS your job, you have NO job, or your obessive little one up game has completely taken over your life.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Since I had the day off today I decided to do a little experiment with you.. I posted comments to you ALL DAY LONG to see how fast it would take you to reply and if you would ever take a break.. "
You wasted your day off posting comments on youtube, at least I was stuck at the office, what's your excuse?
zakabog 3 years ago
I've finished wasting my time responding to your troll nonsense here zakaborg.. but here's a message from Jarrah that you might want to heed if you plan on continuing to spew your silly disinformation here, and play your obsessive little "one up" game on his chanel.
"You can tell zakabog he has 48hrs to retract his accusations of my being dumb and or a liar."
Oh, and that message from him came into my PM box yesterday.
Those are the facts, whether you like them or not.
LOSER.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Oh, and that message from him came into my PM box yesterday."
K, saw your other comment and I sent Jarrah a message, perhaps he'll correct the mistake in his video?
zakabog 3 years ago
"You wasted your day off posting comments on youtube, at least I was stuck at the office, what's your excuse?"
You were stuck at the office? I wasn't going to reply to you anymore, but I was just wondering exaclty what kind of work you do to be able to post silly replies on YouTube IMMEDIATELY, ALL DAY LONG, WITHOUT EVEN TAKING A BREAK, and I assume get paid for it, since you're "stuck at the office" ?
I've had office jobs before but none where I was paid to "debunk" the Apollo Moon Hoax.
straydog02 3 years ago
"...I was just wondering exaclty what kind of work you do to be able to post silly replies on YouTube IMMEDIATELY, ALL DAY LONG, WITHOUT EVEN TAKING A BREAK, and I assume get paid for it, since you're "stuck at the office" ?"
You posted 46 replies, the average time it took me to write a reply was under 3 minutes, that would be little more than 2 hours. I worked 12 hours that day so thats less than 20% of my time, most of which was software compile time (I'm a computer programmer.)
zakabog 3 years ago
"You posted 46 replies, the average time it took me to write a reply was under 3 minutes, that would be little more than 2 hours."
You're "girlfriend" is right zakabog... You really do need to get a life away from "arguing about if the moon is real or not or whatever it is you do on here. God. Lameass. NOBODY WOULD EVER DATE YOU!!!!! "
Any thoughts I had about you possibly being a paid shill got completely erased by her few VERY REVEALING words about you.. Even she knows you're a loser.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Any thoughts I had about you possibly being a paid shill got completely erased by her few VERY REVEALING words about you.. Even she knows you're a loser."
Sarcasm escapes you.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Sarcasm escapes you. "
It took you 20 hours to come up with that lame explanation as to why your "girlfriend" won't date you? .. You're really slipping .. Usually you reply in a matter of minutes.
Maybe you had the day off from "work".
LOL
straydog02 3 years ago
"It took you 20 hours to come up with that lame explanation as to why your "girlfriend" won't date you? .. You're really slipping .. Usually you reply in a matter of minutes.
Maybe you had the day off from "work"."
Check the weather in the north eastern US, there was a huge snow storm yesterday, I drive a Ford Mustang GT, I trust you can piece together the rest yourself.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Check the weather in the north eastern US, there was a huge snow storm yesterday, I drive a Ford Mustang GT, I trust you can piece together the rest yourself. "
Like I said.. A matter of minutes.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Like I said.. A matter of minutes. "
Because I'm actually in the office today, I'm stuck in front of a computer again. I've explained this before I get a popup every time I get a new e-mail on AIM, and I usually only get e-mails on that account from youtube. Yesterday I was not in the office due to the weather, and unlike some people who are obsessed but can't admit it, I used my time off for better things than posting comments on youtube.
zakabog 3 years ago
Wait, I was was wrong.. It took you only one minute to reply!
You must be really busy at "work" today.
straydog02 3 years ago
cont...
Plus like you said, you had the whole day off to post replies (which is a waste of a day off), so you posted a lot more than usual.
On the 24th you posted 4, on the 23rd there was 9, on the 22nd it was 4 again. you were the only one to reply to me on those days. On the 21st there were 3 people (Grumblingone and Aurinkohirvi and yourself) with a total of 15 replies, which is 1/3rd the number of replies, or at the 3 minute average reply time, 6% of my usual 12 hour work day.
zakabog 3 years ago
"On the 24th you posted 4, on the 23rd there was 9, on the 22nd it was 4 again. you were the only one to reply to me on those days. On the 21st there were 3 people (Grumblingone and Aurinkohirvi and yourself) with a total of 15 replies, which is 1/3rd the number of replies, or at the 3 minute average reply time, 6% of my usual 12 hour work day."
LOL.. You're not a government agent, you're just insane! .. You actually counted my comments to you !?!? .. I really have seen everything now !!!
straydog02 3 years ago
"You actually counted my comments to you !?!?"
No, my e-mail client did.
zakabog 3 years ago
"No, my e-mail client did. "
And you counted them from that?.. Or did your "e-mail client " maybe tally them for you?
Nevermind.. The the fact that you actually clocked my replies shows how obsessed you are with this silly little game of yours.
straydog02 3 years ago
"...Or did your "e-mail client " maybe tally them for you?"
Yes
jmaug[dot]com/46[dot]jpg
"Nevermind.. The the fact that you actually clocked my replies shows how obsessed you are with this silly little game of yours. "
I was pointing out that I spend a fraction of my time at the office doing this, whereas you spent an entire day off at the computer just to "test" me, and you call me obsessed? You even claimed you would no longer reply to me, what happened with that?
zakabog 3 years ago
"I was pointing out that I spend a fraction of my time at the office doing this, whereas you spent an entire day off at the computer just to "test" me, and you call me obsessed? "
I'll tell you what obsessed is ...You reply to EVERY comment in a matter of minutes, while pretending to be at the "office".
I sure wish I had a job where I had nothing to do but play on U-T all day long and get paid for it.
straydog02 3 years ago
"You reply to EVERY comment in a matter of minutes..."
"It took you 20 hours to come up with that lame explanation..."
One of these things is not like the other.
zakabog 3 years ago
"One of these things is not like the other."
Which was EXACTLY my point.
When you're playing your little troll game with the Apollo Hoax evidence, you're Johnny on the spot with your silly replies, but when your dumb "girlfriend" exposes you for the obsessed little troll you really are, it takes you 20 hours to come up with an excuse as to why she as much as called you a loser.
So why would your "girlfriend" care how you spend your time "at the office" ?
Oh wait,... she wouldn't.
straydog02 3 years ago
"When you're playing your little troll game with the Apollo Hoax evidence, you're Johnny on the spot with your silly replies..."
The content has nothing to do with how long it takes me to reply. None of the comments I've replied to today had anything to do with Apollo yet they were quick. On weekends I don't reply, same thing with holidays (around new years you noted my 3 day absence). The fact is I'm not at work those days and when I'm not at work I don't spend much time online.
zakabog 3 years ago
"The content has nothing to do with how long it takes me to reply. None of the comments I've replied to today had anything to do with Apollo yet they were quick."
You think three hours is quick, when your typical repy time is usually between one to three minutes??? .. Too Funny!
straydog02 3 years ago
"None of the comments I've replied to today had anything to do with Apollo yet they were quick.
Most of your lame comments have nothing to do with Apollo, and they weren't quick at all.
I guess you must have had a very busy day "at the office"...LOL
"around new years you noted my 3 day absence). "
Sorry, but you're not important enough for me to note your absence.. but congrats on taking New Years off.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Sorry, but you're not important enough for me to note your absence.. but congrats on taking New Years off. "
Someone pointed out that I hadn't replied in days, then you came along and said something like "Yeah I was about to say that but then he [me] posted on another video." You really have no idea how obsessed you are with this do you?
zakab0g 3 years ago
"Someone pointed out that I hadn't replied in days, then you came along and said something like "Yeah I was about to say that but then he [me] posted on another video."
You expect me to remember a comment I posted weeks ago as a joke? Amazing.
"You really have no idea how obsessed you are with this do you? "
Actually, I do and that's why my comments about you being obsessed with this subject were accurate. You post here much more frequently than I do, at a speed that boggles the mind.
straydog02 3 years ago
"The fact is I'm not at work those days and when I'm not at work I don't spend much time online."
Apparently your "girlfriend" thinks otherwise, or she wouldn't being bitching about how much time you waste on YouTube, arguing about if the moon is real or not... LOL
straydog02 3 years ago
"Which was EXACTLY my point."
No it wasn't, your point was that I'm obsessed, all of my replies are within minutes and I pretend to be at work. How do you explain that all of my comments are made on weekdays during normal working hours?
How about you? After coming to the conclusion that I must be a troll you stated you'd no longer play "these games" yet you've not been able to stop replying to my comments, you even spent your day off posting replies just to "test" me.
zakabog 3 years ago
"No it wasn't, your point was that I'm obsessed, all of my replies are within minutes and I pretend to be at work. "
Correct.. My you do catch on fast!
"How do you explain that all of my comments are made on weekdays during normal working hours?"
Because that's when you pretend to be at work.
straydog02 3 years ago
"How about you? After coming to the conclusion that I must be a troll you stated you'd no longer play "these games" yet you've not been able to stop replying to my comments, you even spent your day off posting replies just to "test" me. "
I keep replying because it's so much fun beating you at your own game... So the few hours I spent doing it on my day off was well worth it.
straydog02 3 years ago
"So the few hours I spent doing it on my day off was well worth it."
It's sad that you feel a day wasted on the internet just to reply to some youtube comments was "well worth it."
Seriously, do something on your days off, read a book, go outside, meet some friends.
zakab0g 3 years ago
"It's sad that you feel a day wasted on the internet just to reply to some youtube comments was "well worth it."
One day on internet is not wasted.. It's when one spends every day here, that's it's a waste.
I can't imagine what kind of work you do to be able to post here non stop through out the entire "work" day .. That was my point.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Seriously, do something on your days off, read a book, go outside, meet some friends. "
Thanks, but my private life is fine and my social life is quite busy.
straydog02 3 years ago
I'M SO BUTTHURT AHHHHHH *posts 6 times in a row on a conspiracy theory video*
AThousandTigers 2 years ago
Congrats ..You can count up to six!
straydog02 2 years ago
jezzus christ xD what a fuckin idiot!!! maybe think with your head not dick man!!!
do you have any IQ and a proove with sense to disprove this films? give me all possible explanations and then u can talk shit like "Seriously, do something on your days off, read a book, go outside, meet some friends. " it prooves how riddicoulos you are xD sory for my english.
qubolo 3 years ago
"So why would your "girlfriend" care how you spend your time "at the office" ?
Oh wait,... she wouldn't."
I have a laptop that she uses frequently, generally it's at her place, if it's not there then it's with me at the office. Sometimes she leaves her account logged in and I'll accidentally post a comment from her account, then she'll get an e-mail when there's a reply and think it's from someone she wants to talk to, when she sees it's just a youtube comment she gets annoyed.
zakabog 3 years ago
"I have a laptop that she uses frequently, generally it's at her place, if it's not there then it's with me at the office. Sometimes she leaves her account logged in and I'll accidentally post a comment from her account, then she'll get an e-mail when there's a reply and think it's from blah blah blah blah."
Nice one! .. And it only took you three hours to dream that one up, too!
Maybe you better stick with Apollo .. At least your bullshit replies are faster.
straydog02 3 years ago
Well, I think Jarrah blocked me from posting replies to his videos, so I guess this is my last one.
Anyway, of all the hoax believers I actually had some respect for you. I thought you were smarter than them, I felt like you just got brainwashed into believing this crap and you just needed someone to show you the way.
Have a good life, and seriously consider researching the points Jarrah brings up in his videos, maybe he'll listen when you point out he's wrong?
zakab0g 3 years ago
"Well, I think Jarrah blocked me from posting replies to his videos, so I guess this is my last one."
If you didn't want to be blocked, all you had to do was to retract your comment about him being a liar, and or dumb.. You chose not to.. and I highly doubt this will be your last comment here.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Anyway, of all the hoax believers I actually had some respect for you. I thought you were smarter than them, I felt like you just got brainwashed into believing this crap and you just needed someone to show you the way."
If you think I believe Apollo was some kind of hoax because I was brainwashed, you're very much mistaken.. I believe what I do after years of research, mostly on NASA sites, where it's VERY obvious that something is VERY wrong with the official record.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Have a good life, and seriously consider researching the points Jarrah brings up in his videos, maybe he'll listen when you point out he's wrong?"
If any of Jarrah's evidence is wrong, not only will it be pointed out to him by those who oppose him, but it will be corrected by him if it's proven to be incorrect.
That's the thing I admire the most about him.. He admits if he's made a mistake and then either corrects it or retracts it. Something which the other side is incapable of doing.
straydog02 3 years ago
Conspiracy theorists don't like other opinions in their holy house. That's why most of the subscribers pointing them at their dumb and lonely struggle for "truth" are blocked. Like I am going to be soon.
Rob260259 3 years ago
Your comment is not true and is overly generalized. Personally I hope you are right but I see no reason to believe you or your fellow nasa lickspittles.
toastedhippy 2 years ago
LOL
Rob260259 2 years ago
"You even claimed you would no longer reply to me, what happened with that?"
I had a few minutes to waste before going to a real job, where there's no time to post on U-T.
straydog02 3 years ago
"You can't listen to your favorite FM radio station on the ham frequencies but you can easily pickup FM radio stations on a ham radio."
Which of course has nothing to do with allegedly receiving transmissions from the Moon.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Which of course has nothing to do with allegedly receiving transmissions from the Moon."
I was illustrating the point that being outside amateur radio frequencies does not make a signal exotic. It's still just radio waves and there's nothing special about listening to signals outside the amateur radio frequency allocations.
You keep forgetting that my point was that Jarrah said it was impossible to listen to the frequencies, with no regard as to where they came from.
zakabog 3 years ago
"So far you haven't shown any proof that Jarrah was "REALLY DUMB" or " A LIAR", or even mistaken about the ham operators not receiving signals from the Moon."
Pay attention, that's not the claim I'm trying to debunk, it's his claim that it would have been impossible for them to pick up a signal on the 3ghz band because of some document he found. My point is that the document is a frequency allocation chart NOT a chart with the physical restrictions of an antenna.
zakabog 3 years ago
"Pay attention, that's not the claim I'm trying to debunk, it's his claim that it would have been impossible for them to pick up a signal on the 3ghz band because of some document he found. My point is that the document is a frequency allocation chart NOT a chart with the physical restrictions of an antenna."
Have you directed the claim you're trying to debunk to Jarrah?
He would be in a much better position to defend himself against your claim that he's "really dumb" or 'lying", right?
straydog02 3 years ago
"Have you directed the claim you're trying to debunk to Jarrah?"
I put a comment on the video (which youtube notifies him of just the same as if I sent him a message), he didn't reply, and he rarely replies to my messages so I figured he didn't have time to respond.
"He would be in a much better position to defend himself..."
Sure but you asked for an example, and if you look at the evidence yourself (or talk with anyone that deals with radio signals) you'll see I'm correct.
zakabog 3 years ago
zakabog... If you had watched Jarrah's well researched and documented 12 part video here, you know know the correct answers to some of the ridiculous claims you make here.
It's come to everyone's attention that you deliberately play dumb, just to keep an argument going, and ALWAYS have to have the final world about everything.
That is what trolls do .. I've been watching all of your replies come in within a matter of a few minutes, which shows what your silly "one up" game is all about.
straydog02 3 years ago
"One last point to note is that even though the pictures alternated between the three * NASA CONTROLLED* stations before settling on Parkes, the voice downlink that was used throughout the broadcast was exclusively from Goldstone."
straydog02 3 years ago
"One last point to note is that even though the pictures alternated between the three * NASA CONTROLLED* stations before settling on Parkes"
You haven't established that NASA controlled Parkes at all. Every employee in charge of receiving the signal that was named in the article you pasted was a Parkes employee. The "BOSSES" who you think all work for NASA were the higher ups at Parkes, John Bolton worked for Parkes not NASA.
tinyurl[dot]com/82fxq5
zakabog 3 years ago
On 21 July 1969 at 12:54:00 (AEST) Aldrin pushed in the TV circuit breakers and activated the lunar television camera. All three stations received the TV SIMULTANEOUSLY. At Goldstone and Honeysuckle Creek the pictures were scan-converted to the EIA (NTSC) commercial standard TV at the tracking stations themselves, but the Parkes pictures were scan-converted at the OTC Paddington terminal in Sydney...cont.
straydog02 3 years ago
The airline pilot who reported this is anonymous so this isn't evidence,ok so this applied to Apollo 15 not earlier missions which JW says there is evidence that they stayed in LEO but does not provide any such evidence
delahaye100 3 years ago
So the capsule was dropped over the ocean by C5-A cargo plane? 6 months before the first C5-A plane was completed and delivered to the Air force? that couldn't have been easy!
delahaye100 3 years ago
Why doesn't Bill Kaysing have the recording of the guy who said "I agree with you 100%" that claimed to have seen the capsule dropped from a plane? Radio broadcasts are recorded, he could have requested that clip, or talked further with that pilot to verify that he was really in the air at the time (the FAA keeps records of flights, so do pilots), it would have added a lot of weight to Kaysings arguments.
zakabog 3 years ago
Let me guess Zak, you can't imagine a guy gettng fired from his airline pilot job for being on the record with a statement like that eh? NOt only do you lack critical thinking skills, but now you also prove to be naive as well as ignorant!
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"Let me guess Zak, you can't imagine a guy gettng fired from his airline pilot job for being on the record with a statement like that eh?"
The guy has no problem calling a public radio show where anyone who knows him will recognize his voice, where NASA can easily find out who he is based on his flight logs (as they could just go and find out what passengers planes would have been in the area at that time) but he has a problem telling Bill Kaysing who he is and offering physical evidence?
zakabog 3 years ago
Ya, all the people he works with listen to the same radio show. You are easily the dumbest f*cker with the most inane bullshit yet. Why don't you go work out the only muscles you have that work Zak?
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"Ya, all the people he works with listen to the same radio show."
So you're saying it's so highly improbable for two people who work together to listen to the same radio show that it's not even worth mentioning? You're the one who suggested he might get fired for giving his name, well if no one's listening then what's the big deal?
I'm only pointing out that him giving his name isn't the only way they can find out who he is.
zakabog 3 years ago
Your used up, as is your excuses and lack of substance...
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"Your used up, as is your excuses and lack of substance..."
Translation: "Look I know my theories on why he wouldn't give his name or why Kaysing didn't have a recording of the conversation WHICH WAS BROADCAST PUBLICLY ON THE RADIO are ridiculous but I have to do anything to show that Bill Kaysing was not lying so making up lame excuses and then only commenting that you're out of excuses when you've done nothing but poke hole in my very own excuses is all I am really capable of doing."
zakabog 3 years ago
Well, your word is about as good as your bullshit excuses...So, anyone who has dealt with you knows they can dismiss it immediately!
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"Well, your word is about as good as your bullshit excuses..."
Okay, maybe you don't understand something
I asked you a legitimate question about why Bill Kaysing wouldn't have an audio recording or the name of someone he talked to during a radio broadcast he was on and your answer was the guy talking in the broadcast didn't want to get fired, and I'm the one with the excuses?
Okay how about this, what's the name of the radio program he was on?
zakabog 3 years ago
HOw about you ask someone who doesn't mind corresponding with a lying NASA apollogist?
Or why don't you hire a medium and ask Bill yourself asshole!
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"HOw about you ask someone who doesn't mind corresponding with a lying NASA apollogist?"
Jarrah made the video and used Kaysings claims to backup evidence without ever showing that the claim was true.
"Or why don't you hire a medium and ask Bill yourself asshole!"
Because they have just as much chance of talking to the dead as my cat does, except when the cat gets something wrong it doesn't cost me anything and I can easily shrug it off as "Well what did you expect, she's just a cat."
zakabog 3 years ago
"Well, your word is about as good as your bullshit excuses.."
Amen to that brother! Keep singing, cuz the choir is listening!.. LOL
"So, anyone who has dealt with you knows they can dismiss it immediately!"
Considering zakbog's young age and the silly "girlfried" company he keeps, I think we need to cut this dummy some slack. Instead of him being a programmed NASA Cyborg shill, I do believe he's just a garden variety TROLL with nothing better to do with his life than to bust our chops.
straydog02 3 years ago
"I do believe he's just a garden variety TROLL with nothing better to do with his life than to bust our chops." Well, he has admitted to as much before. I don't remember him admitting to the Troll nature of it, but anyone who has the intestinal fortitude to sit through his droll, troll postings on Jarrah's videos alone can attest to it.
Thanks for being our favorite troll Zak!
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"Thanks for being our favorite troll Zak!"
Wait!.. It can't be!! .. It's almost noon on Monday and so far Cyborg zak hasn't replied to ALL of our comments!?! .. Oh dear un4g, do you think he may have been reassigned to a different Apollo Moon Hoax forum?
straydog02 3 years ago
They may have transferred him to running coffee to the guys that have the capacity to lie much better!
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
No such luck, un4g .. Cyborg zak showed up on Part 5 a little while ago and showed up here as I was posting this reply to you.
So I guess Jarrah's video still has TOP PRIORITY!
straydog02 3 years ago
It must be his unrelenting tenacity to spread as much bullshit as possible on top of excellent videos proving the hoax for what it was that keeps him employed...
Radiation experts are laughing at you Zak!
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"It must be his unrelenting tenacity to spread as much bullshit as possible on top of excellent videos proving the hoax for what it was that keeps him employed..."
Is zakabog the only pro Apollo troll to show up on Jarrah's new video?.. Usually they can't wait to attack him, and pounce on him like a pack of rabid pit bulls.
I wonder where all the other propagandist attack dogs are?
straydog02 3 years ago
They know better. They probably don't want their lies showing up in Jarrah's next video making them look like the pack of bullshitters they have always prove themselves to be. Look at poor plait, windley, and oberg. Total buffoons, and propagandists called out by Jarrah. Zak doesn't really care, as long as he has his gym membership...LOL
un4g1v3n1 3 years ago
"Translation: "Look I know my theories on why he wouldn't give his name or why Kaysing didn't have a recording of the conversation WHICH WAS BROADCAST PUBLICLY ON THE RADIO are ridiculous but I have to do anything to show that Bill Kaysing was not lying so making up lame excuses and then only commenting that you're out of excuses when you've done nothing but blah blah blah."
Translation: Jarrah's video destroys Apollo on every level, so I need to post as many distraction tactics as possible.
straydog02 3 years ago
"Translation: Jarrah's video destroys Apollo on every level, so I need to post as many distraction tactics as possible."
Of course, asking for evidence is a distraction tactic. Perhaps you know the name of the radio show or have some evidence of the conversation with the pilot having ever taken place?
zakabog 3 years ago
"Of course, asking for evidence is a distraction tactic."
No, asking for evidence isn't a distraction tactic.. It's everything else you post.
straydog02 3 years ago
"It's everything else you post."
Like...?
zakabog 3 years ago