If you're right, and there really is no God, then whats going to happen? Nothing. However if you're wrong and there is a God, then you're in a lot of trouble...
@phil4vs8 #1: The argument you're presenting here is a version of Pascal's Wager, and it suffers from a number of fallacies. Most importantly, you're setting up a false dichotomy by assuming that either the Abrahamic god exists, or no god exists. You're ignoring every other possible god. Perhaps the true god loves those who are intellectually honest, and not those who claim to know him without having any evidence. This brings me to the next problem with your proposition (next comment)
@phil4vs8 #2 You're assuming that God would not be able to see through my intentions. Would God really be more pleased with someone who is only feigning belief out of fear of hellfire, than someone who looked at the evidence, realized belief in a god is unjustifiable, and was intellectually honest with themselves? This god of yours must be colossally stupid if he couldn't see through the deception of "belief to save one's ass." Lastly... (next comment)
@phil4vs8 #3: How concerned are you that Vishnu is the one true god, and not Yahweh? (I'm assuming you're a Christian of some stripe... sorry if I'm wrong) How much time do you spend worrying that you have the wrong god, and that you may burn in some other god's hell? Roughly zero time, I would guess, right? Why? When you figure out why you aren't afraid of some other god's hell, you'll realize why I'm not afraid of your god's hell.
@phil4vs8 #4: Ah, sorry... one more thing. What do I have to lose if I spend my life believing in a god for which there is no evidence (thus lying to myself for the rest of my life?) Well, I lose my intellectual honesty. I lose my wonder for this universe, and my appreciation for the fact that I am inconceivably lucky to be alive. I lose my ability to trust in science. After all, it took God no effort to create the universe, and he can break the laws of nature whenever he pleases.
i think they just got trolled by dane cook
PracticeMakesAwesome 6 months ago
@PracticeMakesAwesome hahaha i think you're right
M3PanoS 6 months ago
If you're right, and there really is no God, then whats going to happen? Nothing. However if you're wrong and there is a God, then you're in a lot of trouble...
phil4vs8 6 months ago
@phil4vs8 #1: The argument you're presenting here is a version of Pascal's Wager, and it suffers from a number of fallacies. Most importantly, you're setting up a false dichotomy by assuming that either the Abrahamic god exists, or no god exists. You're ignoring every other possible god. Perhaps the true god loves those who are intellectually honest, and not those who claim to know him without having any evidence. This brings me to the next problem with your proposition (next comment)
TomConger 6 months ago 3
@TomConger Yes, I love you.
This is definitely my favorite argument for Pascal's Wager because it catches them off-guard.
tazer95 6 months ago
@phil4vs8 #2 You're assuming that God would not be able to see through my intentions. Would God really be more pleased with someone who is only feigning belief out of fear of hellfire, than someone who looked at the evidence, realized belief in a god is unjustifiable, and was intellectually honest with themselves? This god of yours must be colossally stupid if he couldn't see through the deception of "belief to save one's ass." Lastly... (next comment)
TomConger 6 months ago 3
@phil4vs8 #3: How concerned are you that Vishnu is the one true god, and not Yahweh? (I'm assuming you're a Christian of some stripe... sorry if I'm wrong) How much time do you spend worrying that you have the wrong god, and that you may burn in some other god's hell? Roughly zero time, I would guess, right? Why? When you figure out why you aren't afraid of some other god's hell, you'll realize why I'm not afraid of your god's hell.
TomConger 6 months ago 3
@phil4vs8 #4: Ah, sorry... one more thing. What do I have to lose if I spend my life believing in a god for which there is no evidence (thus lying to myself for the rest of my life?) Well, I lose my intellectual honesty. I lose my wonder for this universe, and my appreciation for the fact that I am inconceivably lucky to be alive. I lose my ability to trust in science. After all, it took God no effort to create the universe, and he can break the laws of nature whenever he pleases.
TomConger 6 months ago 3