that stupid lady should say that to the health insurance company that are choosing what kind of care they will pay for,well that's the real hitler policy
You can't spell Barney Frank without: B.A.R.F...The man reported to Congress in April 08 that Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac were quote: "strong". They were teetering on the brink since 2001...Barney Frank is a lap dog of the Communist movement in this country. Anyway, with the Dems numbers tanking, Anything they pass will eventually be undone. The traditional Americans will not stand for another Government program that is too expensive and does not work.
You say that like the spending policies of the previous administration had nothing to do with it. Or the whole WMD thing. If you're out to point fingers, you need to make sure you aren't targeting one side because both had a heavy hand in this mess. Aside from all that, it's called a democracy You don't always get it your way Obama won the election get over it. Got a better idea about health care? Lets hear it. Otherwise, just shut the fuck up you arent helping anything but a conservative agenda
You people cannot be serious! You can't honestly believe this crap? Barney Frank represents the liberal opinions of the people that he was elected to represent! Not you. Stop throwing crap at a man who does his job with dignity despite being faced with the disgusting lies and trash thrown at him by despicable GOP members and their ignorant followers. Honestly, you lost, get over it. We had to deal with Bush for 8 years and you are now living with the economic and social consequences.
A group of lunatic fringe! lol Next time, check id's at the door and make sure that they are residents of the city the meeting is taking place, instead of assholes out of towners that are bus in. Idiotic people have nothing better to do than to travel to disrupt meetings and shout nonsense
not many intelligent people will be doctors if they cant make profit as a dr. then how do you think healthcare in usa would be with no where near enough doctors? socialism sucks.
another loser that needs to be investigated for his role and the libs for the housing collapse but they are libs and never get investigated,but they are going to be looking for jobs in 2010 bye losers
Frank, What a dodge !!! Answer the woman !!! Ignoring the question will not make the problems go away !!! The totalitarian policies of Obama have been exposed and the populace are not putting up with the garbage !!! RESIGN you lisping dolt !!!
Why should he answer? Every other official that has had these has been boo'd and shouted over when they try. What reason does he have to entertain such a ridiculous question?
american healthcare works allot better than socialized healthcare; we even stupidly take care of illegals and allot of patients come to america from socialized nations to avoid the socialied red tape thatd killed them.
What you don't understand is that the proposed health care reform is a far cry from "socialized" health care. A lot of countries can make the same claims as we do.
I'm the ignoramus because I don't think the dems wants socialism and communism for America? That's rich, besides trying to make a government insurance plan, what else have they done?
Infrastructure (roads), Social Security, Medicare, welfare, faith-based initiatives, public education, law enforcement, financial bailouts, and the military are all examples of "socialist" programs that the Republican party endorse. But, then we're used to those and they're okay.
im a conservative republican and i dont endorse the bailout and alot of other republicans didnt either. typical democrats [i know of only 1 half way decent dem. politician] support things that are bad for the nation fiscally and socailly.
Regardless of what you wanted, that program was still supported almost solely by Republicans. I'd like to read what you think that dems wanted for the nation that are bad for the country. I'm a moderate though as of late the conservatives have been pushing me away because of antics like we see in the town hall events and now even the politicians interrupting Congress to yell, "You lie!" or calling Obama the "..enemy of humanity".
i think it wa more like solely dems and some rs. practically any issue dems are con when they should be pro, vise versa. routy consrvs are mild and civil compared to routy leftists. doesnt everybody know? maybe you spend most of your time on another planet.
you seem to think you know the 'facts' the way you claimed it was solely repubs. who support the bailouts. where are the facts to back that up? not that i think there are any. everybody knows probably all dems supported the bailouts and although dems blame rs. for the financial crisis theres proof on the top vid on my page that rs. tried to prevent the problem while probably no dem didnt protect the problem. that vid should be played 24 7 until the world knows the truth!
We should note that prior to 2000, support for Fannie and Freddie was more bipartisan. In the late 1990s, the Republican-controlled Congress — with the blessing of Democratic President Bill Clinton — eased the credit requirements on loans that Fannie and Freddie purchased.
So first, when you talk about this legislation, it's not the cure-all you suggest it may have been; the focus then was on corruption in Fannie and Freddie, which isn't really what the financial crisis is about. Democrats may have opposed it, but it didn't appear to have all that many champions in a Republican-controlled Senate, either. And last, if you look back in time, Democrats and Republicans supported an easing of lending standards in the late 1990s.
ive only seen and heard of leftist type ceos of fannie and freddie and democrat politicians being payed, bought by f and f although theres obviously alot of 'moderate' repubs. id still rather vote for them than dems since some sanitys better than none.
As an elected official he is required to answer and be accountable to their constituency. Only liberals believe they can do whatever they want after duping the electorate and taking office.
Yes, you're right he is required to do that. On the on the other hand he doesn't have to entertain the idiotic remarks made to him because he is an elected official. If she made her point with out accusation, with out name dropping the Nazis, and asked her question in polite discourse she would have had an answer. Instead she chose the other path, if some one wants proper discourse on a subject they should offer it in kind.
Correct me if I'm wrong in that a Town Hall Meeting is about opening civil discourse with an elected official.
What has been happening in the Town Hall Meetings has been anything but civil. Why is it so hard to ask a question with out accusing some one of adopting "Nazi policy"?
You are wrong. Political discourse is very often not polite speech and the first amendment to the constitution was created to protect it. Polite speech needs no protection. You have revealed your political leanings by your opinions. Leftist are constantly trying to control and stifle debate and when they dont get their way you will find yourself in a gulag.
You're right it's not often polite speech. Shouldn't we try to rise above that though? For the good of the nation, shouldn't we drop the rhetoric? Even you, who do not know who you are talking to bring up gulags and think that I'm "leftist". This is the problem: when brought out for civil conversation, the far right resorts to hyperbole. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but, when did we lose all sense of decorum and political savvy? Please answer my question in my previous post.
I find it ironic how you say the media brainwashes people about Obama when all of your opinions come from the media as well or from a party that cares more about politics than what is actually better for the country. (Republican)
Why are we in debt in the first place? Because Bush made us fight a huge pointless war, I didn't see any of you making a big deal about it when that was happening.
Limited government involvement doesn't equal socialism genius's.
islam murdered thousnds of our people and your for doing nothing like a chamberlin or jimmy carter? ww2 only lasted 4 years and ended by devastation in this war agains even more fanatical muslims every time a soldier kills a terrorist the democrats put them on trial. wait til mertha is having his head removed and hillary's forced to wear a burka.
What do you mean by leftist? All you have to do is define what a leftist is and then see if he conformed to your definition. But I think your objective is not to demonstrate Hitler's ideology, but to try and persuade yourself that someone falling on the left side of the political spectrum is fundamentally incorrect in their political beliefs, because you have related them to one of history's most infamous figures. This is a lesson in retardedness.
leftists say the lie of conservatives being nazis so often many believe it. the difference of me saying leftists are much more like hitler and stalin is that its true.
At least she would have said Barney Frank is a Nazi.. come on!! His stupid, disappointing, horrible Fannie Mae risky loan government regulated mortgages GOT US IN THE ECONOMIC CRISIS!!
Come on people, this man out of his mind!!! His policies are screwing up this country and now he wants MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATION IN THE MORTGAGES AND REAL ESTATE!!
That's our Government for the people? Someone raises a real concern and they are insulted and shouted down by the obvious plants in the audience? the people are catching on. Watch out bureaucrats.
If this were to become a nazi government, Barney Frank would have three strikes against him, hes a fag, a jew, and a lying leftist, which were the three main victims of Hitler.
actually we won the election. if you want to call obama a socialist its ok with me, and if you want to make up lies and strawmen that is also ok.
but we are the majority, you are the minority. you should leave. Get the fuck out of my country, cleetus! Get your cousinfucking ass on over to Iraq or Mexico.
Itsa democratic republic, yokel. We won, you lost. If you just want to sob and cry and shout lies, then you are free to leave any time.
You must be a fourth grader who know nothing about politics and doesn't understand big words like socialism. All you have to say is we won now get the "fuck" out. How mature.
Have you ever herd of tyranny of the majority? The media was rooting for obama the whole time and if you cant see that then you must be blind.
Actually the majority of the country now call themselves conservative because the "messiah" obama is ruining the country. We are in more debt than ever before because of him.
I love when a braying right wing fascist like you starts yapping about socialism. By your definition the US Army and the Fire department are socialist and Dwight Eisenhower had the same beliefs as Hitler and Stalin.
Never mind that American Lib FDR is the one who defeated Hitler, just go ahead and lie your head off. Never mind that you guys are lying racists and militarists just like Hilter either.
Never mind that Hitler banned the Socialist Party in Germany and he killed its members.
It seems as if you still resort to insults and personal attacks to get your point across.
The it the governments job to provide protection from enemies that are abroad and domestic. We aren't lying, the media is brainwashing you. You are a sheep following whoever tells something. You are a pawn in their game.
Hitler was the national socialist party!!! Get the facts.
You insult me and provide inaccurate facts. I guess I was right you are a fourth grader.
The SPD is a political party in Germany and it has existed since the 1860's. The initials stand for German Socialist Party. This party was founded by allies of Karl Marx. These are real socialists.
Hitler banned the SPD in 1933. He killed leaders and also ordinary people who belonged to the SPD in the camps and in the streets.
If your page is right you are 15. I didnt know you were so young. Please check my facts and open your eyes/mind. Google Germany and SPD and see I am telling the truth.
Hitler was at the head of a party that they called nazism. They upheld to the ideology of the national socialist german workers party. Hitler was a socialist.
Congratulations. You are yet another tool that has been willingly duped by Hitler and Goebbels. Their propaganda still works today. Amazing, but you have to hand it to them.
Do you understand that national socialism is an oxymoron? A true marxist wants to destroy national governments and establish a "dictatorship of the people." Nationalism and Socialism are not compatible.
Hitler killed Socialists and Communists. I put the proof in front of you but I guess you chose not to look.
See? Living proof of why the greatest country on earth is in the toilet. We have people shouting at each other during so called politics. Nazi? I don't think Barney killed 3 million jews, and I don't think you have to throw an insult back. Bureaucrats now think they own the U.S. masking themselves in cheap speeches and flashy bills. Where is the "change"? I'll tell you... The change is when tearing down the second amendment is more importent then funding the army or feeding the poor!
If anyone was even Close to Hitler, it was the Bush Administration... however I will not stoop that low to make any uneducated statement as have the idiot moron conservatives towards Obama.
The National Socialist {Nazi} party was funded by the same clowns of the Rockefeller Foundation, among others, who hedge their bets by propping up American Democratic & Republican candidates. (Presidents are selected---not elected.) These eugenicists promote infanticide, euthanasia, mass inoculation & sterilization. Research the Georgia Guide Stones.
i'm confused at SHOUTIUNG over healthcare reform at the town halls. just the people who are shouting. people who actually use the townhall like it's supposed to be, i commend. 1st of all there are FIVE DIFFERENT BILLS. 2 in the senate and 3 in congress. yet people are arguing and selective choosing and distoring info from all diff bills. people are going to congressman town halls with distorted info from a senate bill and vis-versa. pure ignorance. wait till a final bill comes out to be stupid.
I commend you. You have expressed those things I would like to state and ask and have done so eloquently. You've kept your cool, even when faced with nonsense and idiocy.
P.S. I have heard many people accusing the current President and Congress of being "Nazis." One of my questions is: in what kind of Nazi regime could we have a mulatto President?
Nighthawk, I couldn't agree with you more. Intelligent discussion and compromise is what we are currently lacking. People should study the proposals on the table and make decisions instead of basing their opinions on the rhetoric of limbaugh or Oberman. "Health care reform is absolutely crucial for longterm economic health of this country" was recently stated by Alan Greenspan. It's not just the uninsured that are suffering but Medicare, Medicaid and health costs all have to be addressed.
POOR Barnet Frank. Hiding behind his race. Jewish people where NOT the only people killed by the Nazis, and in fact Jewsih families like teh Rockefellers, Kissingers, and Rotschilds FUNDED to Nazi program INCLUDING the Holocaust. SO FUCK BARNEY FRANK YOU SHIT FILLED DOUCHE. Seconfd, he NEVER answered the question, and it IS a LEGIT concern and a REAL issue. Stupid people fall for the " I am too offended to answer HORSE SHIT", smart people press for the answer. Answer Frank, you socialist bitch!
It's not about how much money Barney Franks has or about the Nazi comments. It's about the need for people to be covered under the Healthcare Plan Obama has put forth to help all Americans. Where were these people when Bush pushed us into a false war, and where will they be if the Healthcare Plan does not pass? Will the same rich people who are putting out the propaganda that the dumb, death & blind are regurgitating, be there to take care of the dumb dumb's healthcare bills? No! Wakeup!!
I'm am quickly coming to the conclusion that anyone who uses LOL during a discussion of politics should not have the right to vote. This isn't a game of baseball. If Bush had a decent health care reform proposal, then explain what it was, why you support it, and why you think the democrats were wrong for opposing it. Otherwise,this your remark is sadly more partisan trolling. People, can we discuss the merits and failings of the current plan, or is America nothing more than a school yard?
I'm with you! People who are with the republicans can never tell you what the plan was, because there was no plan! cracker2012 is confusing the 'social security in the stocks idea' Bush was pushing. We all know what would have happened if the republicans had gotten that passed; we would be in a world of hurt! But you're right, let's stick with the issues. Let's call it 'medicare for everyone!' The majority of it is paid for with the repeal of the Bush Tax Cuts.
Bush and the Republicans did not mention healthcare reform-- they did not make a move towards it! Oh yeah, but they did want to put Social Security on the stock market. What a disaster that would have been! Many times I wonder why people who make $35,000 a year fight so hard on the republican side of things? Is it because of the 'grand ol' thing? Don't they know grand means having grands/millions, and everbody else can kick rocks even if they are the same race if they don't have money!
I will say this, im on the fence with this healthcare bill, the democrats just lost some points with me, barney frank handled that like a 3rd grade juvenille who could not come back with an inteligent answer so he resorts to insults. By the way i am for everyone getting health care, but this bill they are trying to pass is ridiculous 1,018 pages filled with pork, this govenment should unfuck itself and start doing things on the level.
That sort of idiocy posing as intelligent questioning deserves that response. what the hell!!! How does getting a more inclusive health policy compare to Hitler. Typical ignoramus trying to act all informed and uppity.
I agree, but at the same time, the entire public debate has been juvenile, and sadly it would appear that this is the preferred way of debate, as it is what the media will show. No matter the outcome,this is a sad day for America. I'm Liberal, but I am certainly open to hearing Conservative criticisms and alternate plans. Sadly, most of what I end up hearing are amount to insults. We must not stand for this any longer.
This bastard is the scumbag of all scumbags in Washington. The woman simply showed that the bill is the same as a bill passed by Hitler. You can't argue with that because the two bills are identical. Franks knows this so the only way he could argue is to trash the lady..This man is a snake and I will cheer the day he is out of the US government.
What planet are you on, Dipshit? Just like Barny, I nor any other sensible person is going to let you make up absurd lies about the President and propagate it as truth. Get your facts straight you idiot moron.
2) Even it they do, show me why they are bad. Simply shrieking "the Nazi's did it!" doesn't automatically make it bad. The Nazi's funded the arts. Does that make funding the arts bad? The Nazi's were scum, but not everything they did was evil. You must show that this plan, based on it's merits, is evil. Throwing the term Nazi around is just an invective, and it contributes nothing to the debate.
Listen to what this woman said..If you'll keep an open mind and listen to her, you will hear how the two plans overlap. Quit jacking your pecker to what Barney says and just listen to what SHE says. Why don't you read all of Hitlers plan and listen to how Obama and other dems are explaining Obamas plan and you will see for yourself how they overlap.
There is no connection. I'm not making the claim that there is. If there is a connection, then state it and back it up with evidence. It is not my job to substantiate your claims. Your constant insistence that others figure out indicates you have nothing.
Here is the Democrats plan thus far:
1) No denying people based on preexisting conditions.
2) Public option that you DON'T HAVE TO TAKE
If you have any evidence about death panels or eugenices, present it, or shut the hell up.
the government is not prepared to help tens of millions of people that will be using this system. this is taking a step toward socialized medicine. anything socialized is bad because you well eventually run out of other peoples money. I know a family that wanted to move to australia and both the parents were granted citizenship but thier son was denied citizen ship because he had down syndrome and he would be to much of a drag on thier health cares system
and where do you think the government gets its money to pay for this retarted healthcare plan. YOU the people for very dollar that goes to pay some unbelievable overly expensive stimulus bill or healthcare plan is one less dollar that could be invested or used to start a business and create jobs or invest. the more money the government has the less money the people have. this will stifle and destroy our economy and the american way of life.
While I disagree, I thank you for at least proposing a reasonable argument. What has driven me so nuts about the current 'debate' is that it appears to be focused on conspiracy theory and lies. The issue of cost and how it will be managed are legitimate concerns.
i agree w the contestant completely. in the usa like germany then, instead of applauding the confrontation of the contestant to demanding answers from a public official. the general public is applauding the childlike wit of an official fighting for his position. this alarmingly complacent attitude ringing just too familiar. God help us.
No, they are applauding because her behavior was childish. If you watch the full video, she did have legitimate critiques, but she then jumped the shark with the Nazi nonsense. Even with the current health care proposals, we'd still be less Socialist than most first world nations. There are plenty of legitimate concerns about the proposals going out, but the level of hyperbole needs to stop. We need a real debate based on merits, not the science fictions nonsense that has become so popular.
her behaviour was childish??lolol Why do your clowns be so stupid on purpose and are you just plain liars? How about the behaviour of the dems in the last eight yrs. do america a favor --- please - sit down and shut up. damnnn
Your response is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Tell me what you find wrong with health care reform. Do you think our system needs it? What do you propose we should do to fix it, if you feel this way? I'm genuinely asking, because this is the sort of debate I want to hear.
Name calling, telling people to shut up, and rooting for your party like this is a game of baseball isn't helping. We aren't solving in this country. I just want a real debate.
That has nothing to do with what I asked. What are your problems with the current bill? How do you think it should be handled? If you can't come up with anything than other than confusing half black, half white president with an arab terrorist, then you are part of the problem. You are not helping this country. You are only fiddling as Rome burns.
Still, even though I'm probably doing this in vain, I invite you to give me answers to my prior questions. All I want to know is what you want.
Answers is what this woman ask for. What did this fat peice of shit give her? A demeaning question in return..Then this (so called) US politician practically told this woman(who by the way is a US citzen) she is as dumb and a dining table. Look at his gut. Dining tables with food on them is as far as his retarded mind goes. Learn your damn history because I'm not on here to teach it to you.
shut up you idiot... Fox news has you fooled into believing all the lies about the plan... read the plan yourself and stop going by what others are lying about it.
That fat gay bastard didnt even respond to any of her concerns. Just discrediting her as crazy. What a tool box. How on earth does this man keep getting re-elected.
Well an effort to do what Obama is doing to healthcare like she said and the fact that he now has reduced the sale of bullets so that its hard even for cops to get them for training because he can't take away the guns, fricken right he is on the same road Hitler was, do your history people!
I think keeping troops in Iraq is convenient, take away the bullets from the people, the Federal Gov has there "own" army, a trillion dollars missling? COME ON! wake the fuck up people these are FACTS!!!
A Democrat with some balls!! Woo Hoo!! There's not many of those. Go Barney! You have my vote anyday. Too many ignorant people out there. Read the bill please!
Samushi7, Progressivism traces it roots back to the early National socialism, so if we compare liberal progressives to NAZI-sm. It just is the truth. I wondering when people are going to learn that someday, I afraid it maybe two late to realized that Bank Auto, takeovers can be compare to what Hitler did?
You don't know what you are talking about. Progressivism goes back to the late 19th century. Both TR and W. Wilson referred to themselves as progressives.
Does that in any way make the takeovers of industry in anyway right? When it came to GM we had Hitler types firing executives. But overall when you read that Joseph P Kennedy wanted the US to make friends with Hitler, you wonder just how far is Government going to control our everyday lives? Progressives are a dangerous lot whether it be TR Wilson or for that matter FDR!
Coolness, always great to grab the ears of the youth. Go read this guy, he has the real deal on lots og govt opps. The Dem/Rep political system is the most intricate of the govt Black Opps.
I HATE YOU !!!! YOU FAT LIAR!!! STOP PITTING ON ME WHEN YOU TALK!!!! YOU FAT LIAR!!!! FAT FAT FAT LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!
TheMethadoneParty 1 year ago
tape "welcome in my life wadi"
wiwaks 2 years ago
that stupid lady should say that to the health insurance company that are choosing what kind of care they will pay for,well that's the real hitler policy
edmondbangura 2 years ago
You can't spell Barney Frank without: B.A.R.F...The man reported to Congress in April 08 that Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac were quote: "strong". They were teetering on the brink since 2001...Barney Frank is a lap dog of the Communist movement in this country. Anyway, with the Dems numbers tanking, Anything they pass will eventually be undone. The traditional Americans will not stand for another Government program that is too expensive and does not work.
CAPTAINNNAMERICA 2 years ago
You say that like the spending policies of the previous administration had nothing to do with it. Or the whole WMD thing. If you're out to point fingers, you need to make sure you aren't targeting one side because both had a heavy hand in this mess. Aside from all that, it's called a democracy You don't always get it your way Obama won the election get over it. Got a better idea about health care? Lets hear it. Otherwise, just shut the fuck up you arent helping anything but a conservative agenda
everythingeco 2 years ago
You people cannot be serious! You can't honestly believe this crap? Barney Frank represents the liberal opinions of the people that he was elected to represent! Not you. Stop throwing crap at a man who does his job with dignity despite being faced with the disgusting lies and trash thrown at him by despicable GOP members and their ignorant followers. Honestly, you lost, get over it. We had to deal with Bush for 8 years and you are now living with the economic and social consequences.
K30N4D3 2 years ago
Fire Barney Frank , Palosi, obama, biden, and All the othe Idiots who want Socialized Medicine
FireYourJOB 2 years ago
A group of lunatic fringe! lol Next time, check id's at the door and make sure that they are residents of the city the meeting is taking place, instead of assholes out of towners that are bus in. Idiotic people have nothing better to do than to travel to disrupt meetings and shout nonsense
wrodjr 2 years ago
I want a NOT FOR PROFIT Healthcare System.
grace2u2 2 years ago
not many intelligent people will be doctors if they cant make profit as a dr. then how do you think healthcare in usa would be with no where near enough doctors? socialism sucks.
betterworld1 2 years ago
another loser that needs to be investigated for his role and the libs for the housing collapse but they are libs and never get investigated,but they are going to be looking for jobs in 2010 bye losers
ajack50 2 years ago
Frank, What a dodge !!! Answer the woman !!! Ignoring the question will not make the problems go away !!! The totalitarian policies of Obama have been exposed and the populace are not putting up with the garbage !!! RESIGN you lisping dolt !!!
LoungeLizardLouie 2 years ago
Why should he answer? Every other official that has had these has been boo'd and shouted over when they try. What reason does he have to entertain such a ridiculous question?
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
maybe the leftist nazis will let you live a little longer for being such a suck up to them.
betterworld1 2 years ago
If the ignorant masses that are keeping the health care reform from being passed that will hopefully happen.
Haha
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
american healthcare works allot better than socialized healthcare; we even stupidly take care of illegals and allot of patients come to america from socialized nations to avoid the socialied red tape thatd killed them.
betterworld1 2 years ago
What you don't understand is that the proposed health care reform is a far cry from "socialized" health care. A lot of countries can make the same claims as we do.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
if you dont know typical democrats think they want socialism and communism for america, youre the ignoramus.
betterworld1 2 years ago
I'm the ignoramus because I don't think the dems wants socialism and communism for America? That's rich, besides trying to make a government insurance plan, what else have they done?
Infrastructure (roads), Social Security, Medicare, welfare, faith-based initiatives, public education, law enforcement, financial bailouts, and the military are all examples of "socialist" programs that the Republican party endorse. But, then we're used to those and they're okay.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
im a conservative republican and i dont endorse the bailout and alot of other republicans didnt either. typical democrats [i know of only 1 half way decent dem. politician] support things that are bad for the nation fiscally and socailly.
betterworld1 2 years ago
Regardless of what you wanted, that program was still supported almost solely by Republicans. I'd like to read what you think that dems wanted for the nation that are bad for the country. I'm a moderate though as of late the conservatives have been pushing me away because of antics like we see in the town hall events and now even the politicians interrupting Congress to yell, "You lie!" or calling Obama the "..enemy of humanity".
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
i think it wa more like solely dems and some rs. practically any issue dems are con when they should be pro, vise versa. routy consrvs are mild and civil compared to routy leftists. doesnt everybody know? maybe you spend most of your time on another planet.
betterworld1 2 years ago
I asked for facts to back up your statement and not speculation or opinion.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
you seem to think you know the 'facts' the way you claimed it was solely repubs. who support the bailouts. where are the facts to back that up? not that i think there are any. everybody knows probably all dems supported the bailouts and although dems blame rs. for the financial crisis theres proof on the top vid on my page that rs. tried to prevent the problem while probably no dem didnt protect the problem. that vid should be played 24 7 until the world knows the truth!
betterworld1 2 years ago
We should note that prior to 2000, support for Fannie and Freddie was more bipartisan. In the late 1990s, the Republican-controlled Congress — with the blessing of Democratic President Bill Clinton — eased the credit requirements on loans that Fannie and Freddie purchased.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
So first, when you talk about this legislation, it's not the cure-all you suggest it may have been; the focus then was on corruption in Fannie and Freddie, which isn't really what the financial crisis is about. Democrats may have opposed it, but it didn't appear to have all that many champions in a Republican-controlled Senate, either. And last, if you look back in time, Democrats and Republicans supported an easing of lending standards in the late 1990s.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
So for you to lay Fannie and Freddie woes entirely at the feet of the Democrats is unfair and biased.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
ive only seen and heard of leftist type ceos of fannie and freddie and democrat politicians being payed, bought by f and f although theres obviously alot of 'moderate' repubs. id still rather vote for them than dems since some sanitys better than none.
betterworld1 2 years ago
So, you are basing all of this not on fact and precedence but, on opinion.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
in my opinion its a fact.
betterworld1 2 years ago
As an elected official he is required to answer and be accountable to their constituency. Only liberals believe they can do whatever they want after duping the electorate and taking office.
LoungeLizardLouie 2 years ago
Yes, you're right he is required to do that. On the on the other hand he doesn't have to entertain the idiotic remarks made to him because he is an elected official. If she made her point with out accusation, with out name dropping the Nazis, and asked her question in polite discourse she would have had an answer. Instead she chose the other path, if some one wants proper discourse on a subject they should offer it in kind.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
Now you are just parsing the situation to come up with an excuse. It only shows your lack of understanding of what a Town Hall Meeting is all about.
LoungeLizardLouie 2 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong in that a Town Hall Meeting is about opening civil discourse with an elected official.
What has been happening in the Town Hall Meetings has been anything but civil. Why is it so hard to ask a question with out accusing some one of adopting "Nazi policy"?
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
You are wrong. Political discourse is very often not polite speech and the first amendment to the constitution was created to protect it. Polite speech needs no protection. You have revealed your political leanings by your opinions. Leftist are constantly trying to control and stifle debate and when they dont get their way you will find yourself in a gulag.
LoungeLizardLouie 2 years ago
You're right it's not often polite speech. Shouldn't we try to rise above that though? For the good of the nation, shouldn't we drop the rhetoric? Even you, who do not know who you are talking to bring up gulags and think that I'm "leftist". This is the problem: when brought out for civil conversation, the far right resorts to hyperbole. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but, when did we lose all sense of decorum and political savvy? Please answer my question in my previous post.
DoctorCataclysm 2 years ago
I find it ironic how you say the media brainwashes people about Obama when all of your opinions come from the media as well or from a party that cares more about politics than what is actually better for the country. (Republican)
Why are we in debt in the first place? Because Bush made us fight a huge pointless war, I didn't see any of you making a big deal about it when that was happening.
Limited government involvement doesn't equal socialism genius's.
NCShadow1 2 years ago
islam murdered thousnds of our people and your for doing nothing like a chamberlin or jimmy carter? ww2 only lasted 4 years and ended by devastation in this war agains even more fanatical muslims every time a soldier kills a terrorist the democrats put them on trial. wait til mertha is having his head removed and hillary's forced to wear a burka.
betterworld1 2 years ago 2
How the hell was Stalin/Hitler a leftist?
Fox news idiots.
NCShadow1 2 years ago
google hitler was a leftist and check out all the subjects.
betterworld1 2 years ago
What do you mean by leftist? All you have to do is define what a leftist is and then see if he conformed to your definition. But I think your objective is not to demonstrate Hitler's ideology, but to try and persuade yourself that someone falling on the left side of the political spectrum is fundamentally incorrect in their political beliefs, because you have related them to one of history's most infamous figures. This is a lesson in retardedness.
NCShadow1 2 years ago
leftists say the lie of conservatives being nazis so often many believe it. the difference of me saying leftists are much more like hitler and stalin is that its true.
betterworld1 2 years ago 2
leftist as in leaning toward the more liberal side of the spectrum.
You could ask a professor if stalin and hitler were liberal and they will say yes
mrROfLlol 2 years ago
Damn, couldn't even answer the question but could act like a 4th grader and insult her, dancing around it.
youaredead666 2 years ago
At least she would have said Barney Frank is a Nazi.. come on!! His stupid, disappointing, horrible Fannie Mae risky loan government regulated mortgages GOT US IN THE ECONOMIC CRISIS!!
Come on people, this man out of his mind!!! His policies are screwing up this country and now he wants MORE GOVERNMENT REGULATION IN THE MORTGAGES AND REAL ESTATE!!
Stop Barney Frank, He is more like a Nazi!!!
Cyrus992 2 years ago
That's our Government for the people? Someone raises a real concern and they are insulted and shouted down by the obvious plants in the audience? the people are catching on. Watch out bureaucrats.
masontonio 2 years ago 2
If this were to become a nazi government, Barney Frank would have three strikes against him, hes a fag, a jew, and a lying leftist, which were the three main victims of Hitler.
gemini067 2 years ago
amazing, considering hitler was a leftist.
betterworld1 2 years ago
better; Hitler was a fascist, Stalin was a leftist.
gemini067 2 years ago
facists are also leftists. much more like american leftists than american conservatives. much, much more.
betterworld1 2 years ago
if you love socialism and you love stealing money from someone else and want to let the government do everything for you move to china or europe
realtimeplyr 2 years ago
actually we won the election. if you want to call obama a socialist its ok with me, and if you want to make up lies and strawmen that is also ok.
but we are the majority, you are the minority. you should leave. Get the fuck out of my country, cleetus! Get your cousinfucking ass on over to Iraq or Mexico.
Itsa democratic republic, yokel. We won, you lost. If you just want to sob and cry and shout lies, then you are free to leave any time.
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
You must be a fourth grader who know nothing about politics and doesn't understand big words like socialism. All you have to say is we won now get the "fuck" out. How mature.
Have you ever herd of tyranny of the majority? The media was rooting for obama the whole time and if you cant see that then you must be blind.
Actually the majority of the country now call themselves conservative because the "messiah" obama is ruining the country. We are in more debt than ever before because of him.
mrROfLlol 2 years ago
I love when a braying right wing fascist like you starts yapping about socialism. By your definition the US Army and the Fire department are socialist and Dwight Eisenhower had the same beliefs as Hitler and Stalin.
Never mind that American Lib FDR is the one who defeated Hitler, just go ahead and lie your head off. Never mind that you guys are lying racists and militarists just like Hilter either.
Never mind that Hitler banned the Socialist Party in Germany and he killed its members.
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
It seems as if you still resort to insults and personal attacks to get your point across.
The it the governments job to provide protection from enemies that are abroad and domestic. We aren't lying, the media is brainwashing you. You are a sheep following whoever tells something. You are a pawn in their game.
Hitler was the national socialist party!!! Get the facts.
You insult me and provide inaccurate facts. I guess I was right you are a fourth grader.
mrROfLlol 2 years ago
The SPD is a political party in Germany and it has existed since the 1860's. The initials stand for German Socialist Party. This party was founded by allies of Karl Marx. These are real socialists.
Hitler banned the SPD in 1933. He killed leaders and also ordinary people who belonged to the SPD in the camps and in the streets.
If your page is right you are 15. I didnt know you were so young. Please check my facts and open your eyes/mind. Google Germany and SPD and see I am telling the truth.
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
Hitler was at the head of a party that they called nazism. They upheld to the ideology of the national socialist german workers party. Hitler was a socialist.
mrROfLlol 2 years ago 2
Congratulations. You are yet another tool that has been willingly duped by Hitler and Goebbels. Their propaganda still works today. Amazing, but you have to hand it to them.
Do you understand that national socialism is an oxymoron? A true marxist wants to destroy national governments and establish a "dictatorship of the people." Nationalism and Socialism are not compatible.
Hitler killed Socialists and Communists. I put the proof in front of you but I guess you chose not to look.
I tried!
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
See? Living proof of why the greatest country on earth is in the toilet. We have people shouting at each other during so called politics. Nazi? I don't think Barney killed 3 million jews, and I don't think you have to throw an insult back. Bureaucrats now think they own the U.S. masking themselves in cheap speeches and flashy bills. Where is the "change"? I'll tell you... The change is when tearing down the second amendment is more importent then funding the army or feeding the poor!
Sporepulsh 2 years ago
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Mr. MALE PROSTITUTE RING in my apartment- BARNEY FRANK has expressed only CONTEMPT for the AMERICAN PEOPLE that employs him.
Too bad Frank cannot defend Obama-Soetoro's National Socialist Health Care program without resorting to a Don Rickles insult routine.
Archonis 2 years ago
If anyone was even Close to Hitler, it was the Bush Administration... however I will not stoop that low to make any uneducated statement as have the idiot moron conservatives towards Obama.
quicksiliva 2 years ago
The National Socialist {Nazi} party was funded by the same clowns of the Rockefeller Foundation, among others, who hedge their bets by propping up American Democratic & Republican candidates. (Presidents are selected---not elected.) These eugenicists promote infanticide, euthanasia, mass inoculation & sterilization. Research the Georgia Guide Stones.
procommenter 2 years ago
DART-MUTH.
:P
d0d0fever 2 years ago
i'm confused at SHOUTIUNG over healthcare reform at the town halls. just the people who are shouting. people who actually use the townhall like it's supposed to be, i commend. 1st of all there are FIVE DIFFERENT BILLS. 2 in the senate and 3 in congress. yet people are arguing and selective choosing and distoring info from all diff bills. people are going to congressman town halls with distorted info from a senate bill and vis-versa. pure ignorance. wait till a final bill comes out to be stupid.
Revolationsz 2 years ago
WOW! 8 years went by and you didn't hear a thing. I'll make it easy for you and refer you to President Bush's "State of the Union Address" from 2007!
I use LOL because it's less insulting than calling you an ignorant dumb ass. LOL
crackers2012 2 years ago
Dear VigilanteNighthawk,
I commend you. You have expressed those things I would like to state and ask and have done so eloquently. You've kept your cool, even when faced with nonsense and idiocy.
P.S. I have heard many people accusing the current President and Congress of being "Nazis." One of my questions is: in what kind of Nazi regime could we have a mulatto President?
dominatrix999 2 years ago
Nighthawk, I couldn't agree with you more. Intelligent discussion and compromise is what we are currently lacking. People should study the proposals on the table and make decisions instead of basing their opinions on the rhetoric of limbaugh or Oberman. "Health care reform is absolutely crucial for longterm economic health of this country" was recently stated by Alan Greenspan. It's not just the uninsured that are suffering but Medicare, Medicaid and health costs all have to be addressed.
ironbrigader 2 years ago
kill all nazi, kill all nazi
abettertitum 2 years ago
POOR Barnet Frank. Hiding behind his race. Jewish people where NOT the only people killed by the Nazis, and in fact Jewsih families like teh Rockefellers, Kissingers, and Rotschilds FUNDED to Nazi program INCLUDING the Holocaust. SO FUCK BARNEY FRANK YOU SHIT FILLED DOUCHE. Seconfd, he NEVER answered the question, and it IS a LEGIT concern and a REAL issue. Stupid people fall for the " I am too offended to answer HORSE SHIT", smart people press for the answer. Answer Frank, you socialist bitch!
thelibertyblog 2 years ago
I couldn't agree with you more...
nytbrd 2 years ago
promocommenter? what the hell is that you get paid to comment or something?
hitler=obama is total nonsense and you are probably mentally ill.
Brocker8280 2 years ago
Learn your history. Hitlerian eugenics dictated
that the unborn, elderly & infirmed are a
burden to society & must be eliminated.
This well-spoken lady obviously has no tattoos.
procommenter 2 years ago
Thank you..Finally a comment from someone with some since..
Bcroft39 2 years ago
It's not about how much money Barney Franks has or about the Nazi comments. It's about the need for people to be covered under the Healthcare Plan Obama has put forth to help all Americans. Where were these people when Bush pushed us into a false war, and where will they be if the Healthcare Plan does not pass? Will the same rich people who are putting out the propaganda that the dumb, death & blind are regurgitating, be there to take care of the dumb dumb's healthcare bills? No! Wakeup!!
CrazyDee2007 2 years ago
Where were the democrats when President Bush was trying to put forward his healthcare? Thats right, healthcare was blocked by democrats.
LOL
crackers2012 2 years ago
I'm am quickly coming to the conclusion that anyone who uses LOL during a discussion of politics should not have the right to vote. This isn't a game of baseball. If Bush had a decent health care reform proposal, then explain what it was, why you support it, and why you think the democrats were wrong for opposing it. Otherwise,this your remark is sadly more partisan trolling. People, can we discuss the merits and failings of the current plan, or is America nothing more than a school yard?
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
LOLOL ROTFLMAO
capsource1 2 years ago
Obvious troll is obvious.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
I'm with you! People who are with the republicans can never tell you what the plan was, because there was no plan! cracker2012 is confusing the 'social security in the stocks idea' Bush was pushing. We all know what would have happened if the republicans had gotten that passed; we would be in a world of hurt! But you're right, let's stick with the issues. Let's call it 'medicare for everyone!' The majority of it is paid for with the repeal of the Bush Tax Cuts.
CrazyDee2007 2 years ago
Bush and the Republicans did not mention healthcare reform-- they did not make a move towards it! Oh yeah, but they did want to put Social Security on the stock market. What a disaster that would have been! Many times I wonder why people who make $35,000 a year fight so hard on the republican side of things? Is it because of the 'grand ol' thing? Don't they know grand means having grands/millions, and everbody else can kick rocks even if they are the same race if they don't have money!
CrazyDee2007 2 years ago
I will say this, im on the fence with this healthcare bill, the democrats just lost some points with me, barney frank handled that like a 3rd grade juvenille who could not come back with an inteligent answer so he resorts to insults. By the way i am for everyone getting health care, but this bill they are trying to pass is ridiculous 1,018 pages filled with pork, this govenment should unfuck itself and start doing things on the level.
trobe23z 2 years ago
That sort of idiocy posing as intelligent questioning deserves that response. what the hell!!! How does getting a more inclusive health policy compare to Hitler. Typical ignoramus trying to act all informed and uppity.
sappho01 2 years ago
I agree, but at the same time, the entire public debate has been juvenile, and sadly it would appear that this is the preferred way of debate, as it is what the media will show. No matter the outcome,this is a sad day for America. I'm Liberal, but I am certainly open to hearing Conservative criticisms and alternate plans. Sadly, most of what I end up hearing are amount to insults. We must not stand for this any longer.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
This bastard is the scumbag of all scumbags in Washington. The woman simply showed that the bill is the same as a bill passed by Hitler. You can't argue with that because the two bills are identical. Franks knows this so the only way he could argue is to trash the lady..This man is a snake and I will cheer the day he is out of the US government.
Bcroft39 2 years ago 3
What planet are you on, Dipshit? Just like Barny, I nor any other sensible person is going to let you make up absurd lies about the President and propagate it as truth. Get your facts straight you idiot moron.
quicksiliva 2 years ago
LIES??? about obuma...get your head out of the crach dish and WAKE UP about the Fag Barney and this Marxist obuma...
carrieflygirl 2 years ago
Another idiot con.
quicksiliva 2 years ago
Well...seeing that Obama's approval ratings are dropping faster than flies in the winter I would say...most people do NOT agree with him.
nytbrd 2 years ago
Elrrrmmm have you read Hitler's policy??? Or may be Obama's policy??? Nope??? Then why try to act intelligent on youtube.
sappho01 2 years ago
1) Show me where the two plans overlap.
2) Even it they do, show me why they are bad. Simply shrieking "the Nazi's did it!" doesn't automatically make it bad. The Nazi's funded the arts. Does that make funding the arts bad? The Nazi's were scum, but not everything they did was evil. You must show that this plan, based on it's merits, is evil. Throwing the term Nazi around is just an invective, and it contributes nothing to the debate.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
Listen to what this woman said..If you'll keep an open mind and listen to her, you will hear how the two plans overlap. Quit jacking your pecker to what Barney says and just listen to what SHE says. Why don't you read all of Hitlers plan and listen to how Obama and other dems are explaining Obamas plan and you will see for yourself how they overlap.
Bcroft39 2 years ago
There is no connection. I'm not making the claim that there is. If there is a connection, then state it and back it up with evidence. It is not my job to substantiate your claims. Your constant insistence that others figure out indicates you have nothing.
Here is the Democrats plan thus far:
1) No denying people based on preexisting conditions.
2) Public option that you DON'T HAVE TO TAKE
If you have any evidence about death panels or eugenices, present it, or shut the hell up.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
the government is not prepared to help tens of millions of people that will be using this system. this is taking a step toward socialized medicine. anything socialized is bad because you well eventually run out of other peoples money. I know a family that wanted to move to australia and both the parents were granted citizenship but thier son was denied citizen ship because he had down syndrome and he would be to much of a drag on thier health cares system
realtimeplyr 2 years ago
and where do you think the government gets its money to pay for this retarted healthcare plan. YOU the people for very dollar that goes to pay some unbelievable overly expensive stimulus bill or healthcare plan is one less dollar that could be invested or used to start a business and create jobs or invest. the more money the government has the less money the people have. this will stifle and destroy our economy and the american way of life.
realtimeplyr 2 years ago
Am I the only one who thinks it is funny that realtimeplyr can't spell "retarded?"
Usually give a crap about spelling but that shits funny.
Whatchagonado 2 years ago
While I disagree, I thank you for at least proposing a reasonable argument. What has driven me so nuts about the current 'debate' is that it appears to be focused on conspiracy theory and lies. The issue of cost and how it will be managed are legitimate concerns.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
i agree w the contestant completely. in the usa like germany then, instead of applauding the confrontation of the contestant to demanding answers from a public official. the general public is applauding the childlike wit of an official fighting for his position. this alarmingly complacent attitude ringing just too familiar. God help us.
Miqel1234 2 years ago 2
No, they are applauding because her behavior was childish. If you watch the full video, she did have legitimate critiques, but she then jumped the shark with the Nazi nonsense. Even with the current health care proposals, we'd still be less Socialist than most first world nations. There are plenty of legitimate concerns about the proposals going out, but the level of hyperbole needs to stop. We need a real debate based on merits, not the science fictions nonsense that has become so popular.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
her behaviour was childish??lolol Why do your clowns be so stupid on purpose and are you just plain liars? How about the behaviour of the dems in the last eight yrs. do america a favor --- please - sit down and shut up. damnnn
capsource1 2 years ago
Your response is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Tell me what you find wrong with health care reform. Do you think our system needs it? What do you propose we should do to fix it, if you feel this way? I'm genuinely asking, because this is the sort of debate I want to hear.
Name calling, telling people to shut up, and rooting for your party like this is a game of baseball isn't helping. We aren't solving in this country. I just want a real debate.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
health care reform that Osama is purposing is not going to get passed. PERIOD
capsource1 2 years ago
That has nothing to do with what I asked. What are your problems with the current bill? How do you think it should be handled? If you can't come up with anything than other than confusing half black, half white president with an arab terrorist, then you are part of the problem. You are not helping this country. You are only fiddling as Rome burns.
Still, even though I'm probably doing this in vain, I invite you to give me answers to my prior questions. All I want to know is what you want.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
Answers is what this woman ask for. What did this fat peice of shit give her? A demeaning question in return..Then this (so called) US politician practically told this woman(who by the way is a US citzen) she is as dumb and a dining table. Look at his gut. Dining tables with food on them is as far as his retarded mind goes. Learn your damn history because I'm not on here to teach it to you.
Bcroft39 2 years ago
If you have evidence to back up your claims, present them. Otherwise, I have no reason to believe anything you say.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
I sure hope you are right!
nytbrd 2 years ago
When your'e 80 yrs old and need a heart replacement and the US goverment tells you to just take an asprin and shut up..What will be your response?
Bcroft39 2 years ago
shut up you idiot... Fox news has you fooled into believing all the lies about the plan... read the plan yourself and stop going by what others are lying about it.
quicksiliva 2 years ago
did you read it or are you being brainwashed by bureaucrats?
I am guessing it is the latter and you are smart enough not to say.
mrROfLlol 2 years ago
Barney Frank takes it up the ass
who the fuck elected this asshat?
Oh I forgot
YOU DID !
NiggersRsmelly 2 years ago
I love your name...you do have large kahoonas!!! Massachusetts should be ashamed!!!
carrieflygirl 2 years ago
Yep! And with a username like yours, I'm sure everyone here is taking you seriously....
LesPaul021 2 years ago
That fat gay bastard didnt even respond to any of her concerns. Just discrediting her as crazy. What a tool box. How on earth does this man keep getting re-elected.
kenandjasha 2 years ago
Because she WAS CRAZY! lmfao
amphibious4 2 years ago
Well an effort to do what Obama is doing to healthcare like she said and the fact that he now has reduced the sale of bullets so that its hard even for cops to get them for training because he can't take away the guns, fricken right he is on the same road Hitler was, do your history people!
I think keeping troops in Iraq is convenient, take away the bullets from the people, the Federal Gov has there "own" army, a trillion dollars missling? COME ON! wake the fuck up people these are FACTS!!!
billybonds007 2 years ago
Slippery slope fallacy.
VigilanteNighthawk 2 years ago
A Democrat with some balls!! Woo Hoo!! There's not many of those. Go Barney! You have my vote anyday. Too many ignorant people out there. Read the bill please!
justnote78 2 years ago
word... go read the article about him on the site whoopsamerica... you'll love it
opim101 2 years ago
Typical Democrat - don't like what someone else has to say - INSULT THEM! That's the democrat way!
bobdelt 2 years ago
When someone doesn't have a valid point, it is always the easiest thing to use ad hominem argument. If you want win, change the subject.
Question: "Why do you continue to support tyrannical governmental practices?"
Answer from someone who doesn't want to lose the argument: "Why are you such an idiot?"
That is the method of tyrants. Tyrants change the subject when rationality is defeating their tyranny.
jnjnelson 2 years ago 3
Typical Republican - don't like what is the best for the world as well as their country and the people who live in it - COMPARE THEM TO HITLER!
That's the republican way!
Samushi7 2 years ago
Comparing policies (not a person) - to history - is a lot different than name calling.
She never called anyone hitler. She compared policies to those of the past. Nothing she said was innacurate.
There's a difference between calling someone a dining room table, and comparing policies to those from only 70 years ago.
I can't help you if you don't understand those differences.
bobdelt 2 years ago
Samushi7, Progressivism traces it roots back to the early National socialism, so if we compare liberal progressives to NAZI-sm. It just is the truth. I wondering when people are going to learn that someday, I afraid it maybe two late to realized that Bank Auto, takeovers can be compare to what Hitler did?
Sylmarman 2 years ago 2
LOL.
You don't know what you are talking about. Progressivism goes back to the late 19th century. Both TR and W. Wilson referred to themselves as progressives.
splashmt99 2 years ago
Does that in any way make the takeovers of industry in anyway right? When it came to GM we had Hitler types firing executives. But overall when you read that Joseph P Kennedy wanted the US to make friends with Hitler, you wonder just how far is Government going to control our everyday lives? Progressives are a dangerous lot whether it be TR Wilson or for that matter FDR!
Sylmarman 2 years ago 2
She made a valid point, she went about it the wrong way though. Obamma is head of nothing. The military runs this country.
MrTommYYZ 2 years ago
wow.......I agree with you 100%
jtrubilla 2 years ago
Coolness, always great to grab the ears of the youth. Go read this guy, he has the real deal on lots og govt opps. The Dem/Rep political system is the most intricate of the govt Black Opps.
MrTommYYZ 2 years ago
They weren't contestants. lol
metalhead3767 2 years ago
ffff
helpvidz 2 years ago