I'm currently uzing Compiz/LXDE on my netbook, Compiz mainly for handy desktop/window management from keyboard, I don't like any menu or cursor animations. E17 is similar to this setup in terms of size, but I have never tried it - can you tell me if it's as fast and as comfortable in switching between apps? Can it scale windows down while switching, or show all desktops at once and let you arrange the open windows between them? And if not, are there any other instruments of that kind?
Little features like right clicking anywhere on the desktop for full menu access... makes me think to the functional beauty of full filesystem access from a drop down menu in BeOS. Linux lost this, largely. Now we have Unity and Gnome 3, ugly broken desktop implementations which obfuscate the essential bits of computers from the user, compiz crazy bling, am I playing an arcade game or trying to get things done? Enlightenment solves this for me. in summary, @newtubetubetube, I miss 1995.
@NautilusMortanian You can always edit your desktop menu and add the items you need. XFCE is a very cleverly made suite,fast and functional and minimalistic, and I prefer it over Gnome3, KDE and even Gnome2 regardless of the hardware. Compiz is a great manager with many unneeded plugins, and it becomes your best friend as soon as you disable those you don't need and configure the rest. I use it extensively, it does its job well and stays out of the way, handy even with undecorated windows.
@Linux4UnMe Who said anything about desktop environment? I surly didn't. Back in 1995, all you had on your desktop is a window manager, a app launcher, xterms and netscape for porn.
And by the way, e17 is a full desktop shell(eg: fancy word for environment).
I didn't say that you did call it a D.E.... I was referring to window managers obviously don't look that great and have limited themeing ability where as if I wanted to chuck a full DE on top of this window manager I could make it look more modern..... and yes it is a near full desktop shell, but the fact you can add a full DE and use the e17 environment at the same time still classes it as a window manager in my books... but it is expanding
Nope. The effect look hasty done, poorly realized and it really look like my 1995 desktop. But that just me been old, i guess younger audience must like that.
hey. thanks for making this video because i didnt know this awesome de! im running it now an love it! :) just 1 question. how do i change the keyboard layout?
I have FreeBSD running KDE, Gnome, E17, FXCE, openbox, wdm, blackbox on one BSD installation. No need for n numbers of linux installation. FreeBSD is for gods and goddesses, kings and queens. : P
I have Gentoo running KDE4.6, Arch running Gnome3, Mint running Gnome2.x, now I want to run this too!! How many partitions can one man maintain?!! lol We're spoilt for choice with Linux!!! Thanks for the vid!
there was a package in the AUR repo called E17-backgrounds... i'm sure you could find it even on ubuntu/debian repos surely..... but I can't confirm this
They don't consider it feature complete therefore it doesn't get an official stable status as far as I understand... but the libraries/WM is very stable and has been for years
That 'shine' effect looks cool the first 1000 times you see it. I got sick of it a few days after using E17. I wish they would use it more sparingly so it retains its coolness. Like for window titles only (on focus) or buttons (on click)
I definitely want this on my Arch! Yeah!!
rayyanputra 2 months ago
2:01 Stop embarrassing yourself, Narcis Prince isn't that hard!
sebbeks 2 months ago
@sebbeks
Hahaha. Love SuperPunchOut. I can still finish the game pretty easy ... use to play it alot around 15 years ago! haha
Linux4UnMe 2 months ago
I'm currently uzing Compiz/LXDE on my netbook, Compiz mainly for handy desktop/window management from keyboard, I don't like any menu or cursor animations. E17 is similar to this setup in terms of size, but I have never tried it - can you tell me if it's as fast and as comfortable in switching between apps? Can it scale windows down while switching, or show all desktops at once and let you arrange the open windows between them? And if not, are there any other instruments of that kind?
aleclitvinov 3 months ago
Little features like right clicking anywhere on the desktop for full menu access... makes me think to the functional beauty of full filesystem access from a drop down menu in BeOS. Linux lost this, largely. Now we have Unity and Gnome 3, ugly broken desktop implementations which obfuscate the essential bits of computers from the user, compiz crazy bling, am I playing an arcade game or trying to get things done? Enlightenment solves this for me. in summary, @newtubetubetube, I miss 1995.
NautilusMortanian 4 months ago
@NautilusMortanian You can always edit your desktop menu and add the items you need. XFCE is a very cleverly made suite,fast and functional and minimalistic, and I prefer it over Gnome3, KDE and even Gnome2 regardless of the hardware. Compiz is a great manager with many unneeded plugins, and it becomes your best friend as soon as you disable those you don't need and configure the rest. I use it extensively, it does its job well and stays out of the way, handy even with undecorated windows.
aleclitvinov 3 months ago
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NautilusMortanian 4 months ago
rox huh??
XareSoft 4 months ago
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Wow, that one ugly desktop. I didn't had a desktop that ugly since 1995. The only visible improvement is 24bpp colours.
newtubetubetube 5 months ago
@newtubetubetube
it is merely a window manager... not a Desktop environment.... but I can add a DE on top if I feel like it and theme it however I please
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago 3
@Linux4UnMe Who said anything about desktop environment? I surly didn't. Back in 1995, all you had on your desktop is a window manager, a app launcher, xterms and netscape for porn.
And by the way, e17 is a full desktop shell(eg: fancy word for environment).
Now get off my lawn.
newtubetubetube 5 months ago
@newtubetubetube
lol geez, talk about touchy....
I didn't say that you did call it a D.E.... I was referring to window managers obviously don't look that great and have limited themeing ability where as if I wanted to chuck a full DE on top of this window manager I could make it look more modern..... and yes it is a near full desktop shell, but the fact you can add a full DE and use the e17 environment at the same time still classes it as a window manager in my books... but it is expanding
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago 3
@newtubetubetube You're joking right?
Techneek21 4 months ago
@Techneek21 said "You're joking right?"
Nope. The effect look hasty done, poorly realized and it really look like my 1995 desktop. But that just me been old, i guess younger audience must like that.
newtubetubetube 4 months ago
@MarezzSRB
touche ;)
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago
Is this lighter than LXDE
Ograws 5 months ago
@Ograws
Yes. Much Lighter
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago
@Linux4UnMe And there's nothing lighter?
Ograws 5 months ago
@Ograws
probably openbox
Linux4UnMe 5 months ago
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Ograws 5 months ago
hey. thanks for making this video because i didnt know this awesome de! im running it now an love it! :) just 1 question. how do i change the keyboard layout?
TheHornyDevill 6 months ago
@TheHornyDevill
sent you a link PM.
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
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haitamsha 6 months ago
I have FreeBSD running KDE, Gnome, E17, FXCE, openbox, wdm, blackbox on one BSD installation. No need for n numbers of linux installation. FreeBSD is for gods and goddesses, kings and queens. : P
cilomanfreebsd 6 months ago
I have Gentoo running KDE4.6, Arch running Gnome3, Mint running Gnome2.x, now I want to run this too!! How many partitions can one man maintain?!! lol We're spoilt for choice with Linux!!! Thanks for the vid!
22ness0hayden 6 months ago
@22ness0hayden
haha that is very true :)
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
yeah! nice is the only thing u cant do with linux. i c they work to much to fix some problem but also still have it. all sw r =BUG
icguilty 6 months ago
-..- What is cool about that?
xXEduBuntuXx 6 months ago
i still like gnome shell better :-)
pingvinkalle 6 months ago
@pingvinkalle You must like a very plain desktop then? I like Gnome 3 too, but this is 10x more feature rich and probably a lot faster too.
22ness0hayden 6 months ago
Looks like PCLinuxOS killed both their E17 and Gnome editions...:(
waynefoutz 6 months ago
added to my favorites, awesome my friend :)
thermate911 6 months ago
Great preview. One of these day's I'll have to take the time to learn how to compile e17.
joe4ska 6 months ago
@joe4ska
e17 is available in most package manager's repos as a binary
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
do you know if this window system is in the ubuntu repos or debain repos?
TheKaymor 6 months ago
@TheKaymor
indeed it is
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
Considering how small all the labels and buttons are, how are we meant to see what you're doing?
noferblatz 6 months ago
@noferblatz
Easy. Set the video to 1080p and fullscreen it :s
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
Nice video production, Kaddy. great change of pace.
waynefoutz 6 months ago
@waynefoutz
cheers. change of pace?
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
If you watch enough of this blokes videos you know hes running this on top of ArchLinux.
dynetrax 6 months ago
@dynetrax
I salute you :)
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
you should try out MoonOS it's frickin' beautiful
Nyocurio 6 months ago
@Nyocurio
true dat. Been a while since I tried MoonOS. Got an old review somewhere
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
i think it pc linux
amb1402 6 months ago
@amb1402
arch
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
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amb1402 6 months ago
nice.......................................
BelaFleckFan 6 months ago
That was totally beautiful. \m/
Where do you get your wallpapers from??
khunii 6 months ago
@khunii
there was a package in the AUR repo called E17-backgrounds... i'm sure you could find it even on ubuntu/debian repos surely..... but I can't confirm this
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
Very cool and fast but it hasnt 3d aceleration because it isnt x11 obiously, i think...
vladwilliam 6 months ago
@vladwilliam e17 is on xorg technically i personally enjoy e17's customizable nature
lordchaotic0013 6 months ago
@vladwilliam
:O isn't x11? might wanna check that again ;)
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
it seems like bodhilinux isn't it ?
mamado226 6 months ago
@mamado226
bodhi uses e17 indeed. This is Arch with e17 though
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
Nice. But when are they gonna "release" E17 lol. it's still in development isnt it?
ElderSnake90 6 months ago
@ElderSnake90
They don't consider it feature complete therefore it doesn't get an official stable status as far as I understand... but the libraries/WM is very stable and has been for years
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
@Linux4UnMe Ahh okay, cheers mate. Looks worth a try and is indeed very different to the norm.
ElderSnake90 6 months ago
That 'shine' effect looks cool the first 1000 times you see it. I got sick of it a few days after using E17. I wish they would use it more sparingly so it retains its coolness. Like for window titles only (on focus) or buttons (on click)
zeroangelmk1 6 months ago
@zeroangelmk1
true dat... maybe you can turn it off... i havn't seen the setting yet but surely it is there somewhere....
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
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zeroangelmk1 6 months ago
What distro is it?
vladwilliam 6 months ago
@vladwilliam i think its archlinux
nw0n 6 months ago
@nw0n PCLinuxOS
nvanadium 6 months ago
@nvanadium
Arch. But I had some PcLinuxOs themes in there for E17
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago
@vladwilliam
arch
Linux4UnMe 6 months ago