Tony Cecchine's American Catch Wrestling: Shin Lock

[b7r7u7c7e]

This is a cool move and fun to play around with in class, but NEVER EVER do this if you're competing. Even if it was allowed why leave yourself open in a 1n10 chance you'll get it? If Someone takes your back DEFEND first. I saw a kid try this at Grapplers Guest this month in Vagus. He got choked out faster then you could blink!

[AverageAsianMe]

It works...just be careful.

[piggypoo]

I did this with my legs instead, while a guy with trying to facelock me. He screamed and I put him out for a good week before he came back to the mats. Don't do moves like this on newer people because they don't know what's coming and won't tap.

[pocketfullofstones]

How would Tony deal with Bruce if he had a fig-4 body lock?

[chastell]

@pocketfullofstones it's hard to explain but bring a leg over the top leg of the opponent, then cross your bottom leg over and push down!!

[pocketfullofstones]

@chastell I think I know what you mean. You figure-4 your legs over your opponents crossed ankles then push down. But I wasn't talking about an opponent who just has his feet crossed, I mean an opponent who has a proper fig-4 on you. So that one of his feet is hooked behind his knee to the side of you. Would the move your talking about still work in that case?

[Mider999]

i dont think id like to even spar in this stuff. Tony Cecchine himself is badly injured i dont know from what but its BAD

[Pettyh]

That guy sounded like danny devito when you cranked him

[bangermccrusher]

I've done it, it works, but u have to pay attention to your elbow, it has to be properly positioned. and Btw this is NOT what matt hughes tried on BJ, not even close

[Tappedurassout]

Matt hughes tried this against BJ and got choked the FO.

[KJGould]

There are a lot more details you need to know then this video shows. I don't know if these details are on the DVD, but there's a lot you need to know.

[cecchinecatch]

It's a 34 second clip.  Yes, there is more info on the DVDs. Tony doesn't just show moves or holds; he explains how and why they work.

[KJGould]

@cecchinecatch I have his double trouble tape, so I know he explains the mechanics of his straight ankle lock and heel hook. I ordered this set and it should be with me in a day or two :). Speaking of the straight ankle lock, in adition to using my body and hips to drive and use the wrist bone on the tendon, I like to try and touch my hooking arm's elbow to my knee (something I picked up from a sambo tape). The pressure is still on the tendon, but now there's also a bone break possibility :D

[kyllonen06]

youngonesrule is right...first time i tried it i invited the choke so i could try it but i thought it was an ankle lock of some sort. Soon as i started using my elbow i instant got out. If he doesnt tap...he'll let go.

Its really paying attention to detail. once i used my elbow i understood what was happening. all i had to do was read the description of the video and i wouldnt have made the mistake at first

[youngonesrule]

You need to realize what the move is. Like most people, you're probably thinking the move is pulling on the foot or cranking the ankle. The actual move is to drive your elbow between the top calf muscle and shin while controlling the foot so they can't jerk out of it.

Most catch is not like BJJ where it's an actual submission. Alot of catch wrestling is just pure flat out pain. You don't need to always threaten a broken a bone or loss of blood flow to get someone to tap.

[bananabread119]

Got choked out. This move does not work. You have to get your knee in there then pull the ankle off of your knee. Thats how I do it.

[cecchinecatch]

If you do this correctly the opponent will tap. If it happens in a real life scenario and you really do apply sudden torque, the shin will snap.

[sukotsutoclone2]

@cecchinecatch I can actually confirm that this works wonders, especially if you do it properly. You should isolate the shin with your elbow first.

[jhakhohbhy]

@cecchinecatch yeah and your neck too!!!!

[bcrogers]

Lost Art of Hooking, the DVD set from which this clip is taken

[gil2518]

Nice Nice!

[hedges1]

i grappled today and i use this move it works great i never drilled it or anything i just remembered what to do whenever your in this position

[kenzar55]

Nice counter

[shadallion]

I have yet to actually get this in a live roll. Everytime I try, I get either choked or face cranked. It also seems to really piss my opponents off, sot hey're not shy about putting some extra mustard on the cranks.

Not saying it doesn't work, because I've tried it on an unresisting opponent and he certainly tapped, I just can't seem to nail it live.

[cecchinecatch]

If you are going to do this move, you have to really do it. The key is getting that elbow in place and then jerking the counterlever at the foot. This is not a gradual submission. You either do it or you don't.

[teddybears54]

god I wish I had a partner I could easily show a better way.

[cecchinecatch]

There are a number of counters -- many of which are shown on LAOH. This particular counter is generally last ditch, when you've been caught and don't have much time before you get put to sleep. Normally, however, bringing your elbow in tight and your hand to your ear will prevent the choke. Here, though, we are concentrating on what ifs.

[TheNintendhoe]

I could have used this move yesterday in my BJJ class.

[cecchinecatch]

Yeah, but drill it first. It has to be precise. You'll want to rock to one side in order to create the necessary leverage by using the ground as your other trapping point. Then you need to get your elbow on that point of the shinbone about midway so that the torque is created when the foot is brought up. The elbow is used as the counterlever.

Extremely painful. Extremely effective. But it does take some practice maneuvering against a guy with both hooks in.

[TheDotComKid84]

Is this a reply from the one and only Tony Cecchine?

[BiggBodyBrougham]

Very True! I tried this a few weeks ago while rollin' and almost got my face ripped off when I let my arms down to grab for his foot. I rolled to my side and trapped the leg to the floor but forgot to wedge my elbow on the shin to get the needed leverage. Big mistake! I paid for that one... Hey Tony? Hit me up man!

[kingshahine]

sorry but someone who isnt like that fat fuck will choke you out if they have a powerful squeeze.

Also, this is better to use when someone doesnt have a choke on you