Every one speaks of Jewish rebuilding their homeland in Judea and Samaria/West Bank per International law but they don't speak of the Arab Settlers who uses their villages to propound terror. Why is it. Israel has a full right to be in Judea & Samaria and indeed has the legal right to be there as oppose to the Arabs. And the wall wouldn't have been erected if it wasn't for the Arab suicide homicide bombers --- Arab Culture of barbarism, sadly.
The very existence of a state founded on the evil cult of Zionism puts everyone in danger. Endless Rage, War, Murder under a black cloak of smoke, mirrors, deception, lies and fear are where Zionism is at. Pure Hell on Earth.
israhell has stolen Palestine. There is no fucking evidence that they have even owned the place 2000 years ago. A damn faerie tale book with no forensic evidence is not proof even it was true.
Suicide bombers my ass. Very few of them. Probably most of them mossad / shin bet false flags.
He says "they blow up innocent israelis" but wait as an certified israeli citizen dont you have to join the military as mandatory? Also if the whole of the israeli population are active in the military wouldnt that make ALL israelis military targets? If im wrong on this someone correct me.
so someone who has servered their manditory military term and now lives a peaceful life doing whatever their peacetime vocation may be is now made a target because of a government policy? They be serving or may be reservists but that doesnt give somone the right to get on a bus and blow them up while they go to the mall to relax with their friends
No it doesn't justify is just like when the Israeli armies declares collective punishment by strafing on a Palestinian apartment complex and justified it by claiming to get at one terrorist. Or just like when Israel tried to depopulate Lebanon in 2006 because of a couple of "kidnappings" when all the Israeli's had to do was negotiate.
I am saying is that civilians not affiliated with the military should not be targets in the modern world, and that goes for any standing army. Most of the Arabs in the west bank or Gaza don't have any policy unlike in Israel that demands you join Hamas or Fatah, but the Israelis don't see it that way. So the Israelis cant have it both ways.
What about the Palestinians? Do they not have a right to security? What about Israel now contemplating building settlements in East Arab Jerusalem? Is that not a provocation? Fact is, Israel invites violence upon itself. Do they think people will not retaliate when their homes are bulldozed with their family members inside? Israel started the terrorism. THEY started the bombings, it's historical fact. The first suicide bombing wasn't until 1994 after years of oppression.
The Palestinians should have erected a wall back in the late 40s when the Israeli settlers started invading their lands and planting car and package bombs to drive Palestinians off God's chosen land for God's chosen people.
I believe there is a higher power. I just don't believe he picks favorite peoples and has favorite pieces of land on Earth. What a load of egotistical bullshit. Think about that, 'God's Chosen People'? Give me a freakin break. And, God decided the land of the Canaanites was to be your 'Promised land'? Nice. THAT is not a God I want to believe in. 'That which you do to the LEAST of my brothers, you do unto me.' is a God I can get behind. Sorry but, Zionism is racism as Aryianism is racism.
I'm not even on Israel's side, yet I can see the functionality of the wall in stopping terrorism. Magicdog200 & Irtidad might be right that it's positioned wrong, so maybe it should be moved back but it's still necessary & isn't a sign of Israeli aggression. If anything, it's a sign of Palestinian aggression, particularly the infamous Palestinian terrorism the wall was initiated to keep out. The questioner is wrong, there's no apparent conflict of interest in the security fence & attaining peace
Well, actually he did have to ask that question whether he believed it to be the case or not seeing as it's a hot topic but the implication in the overly simplified way it was asked was wrong.
lol it's kinda funny how he characterizes the Palestinian complaints against the wall, that it's "ugly" and "inconvenient." As if Palestinians are just a bunch of flamboyant, fashion-conscious interior designers or something.
If it's for security, then why does it encroach upon Palestinian territory? Why does it cut off towns from their own farmland?
In 2004 the International Court of Justice, the highest judicial body in the world, determined that the path of the wall (and yes, it decided that "wall" is the most appropriate term) is illegal according to international law and therefore it must be dismantled.
I can't say. It usually takes about 10 minutes or so before I can see that I've made a comment, even though the "Post Comment" button turns into "Comment Posted!" and not "Comment Pending Approval."
That sounds frustrating, sorry about that. We'll contact YouTube and see what we can find out. In the meantime, if your comment isn't showing up, it's not because we've blocked it - we only delete comments if they're spam, or if they're explicitly offensive. Hope that helps.
The two are more inseparable than you think. The path of the wall is often directly for the purpose of protecting new settlements, and for giving settlements better land resources; more often than not, the wall goes up directly against the border of a Palestinian village, thus cutting it off from its own farmland, and thus allowing some new Israeli settlement to use that farmland instead.
Well, my reliance on filtered American information sources is showing. A wall to inhibit terrorism is semi okay, but as a back door land grab? Not good....or very smart in the long run.
I want justice. I don't want anyone to kill themselves over something as out dated and socially retarded as religious beliefs. Of all the organized religions, I just so happen to like Judaism the best. Why? Because they don't PROSELYTIZE!!!! But...is the wall fair? Do settlers from Israel take advantage of land that has been walled off from the Pali. owners?
If I could, I would evac the entire area and NUKE it, sea of glass, take away the bad kids toys and see how they hate anew.
The Palestinians don't blow themselves up over there religion. People like yourself must get that through your head. They do it because of Israels injustice over the years and counting. Negotiate with them by halting all settlements, tear down the apartheid wall, move back to the 67 borders, and treat all citizens in Israel equally and believe me the terrorism problem would fade. Otherwise this problem will continue and more criticism will go towards Israel and the aid it gets from US taxpayers.
pLEASE DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS SIR. Ooops I would rather the damn Israelis have a nice big piece of Germany. I didn't see any evidence of Palestinian Concentration camp involvement so why punish them for German misdeeds?
But I still sometimes daydream about turning the entire region into a sea of glass, none of the great religions have covered themselves with glory in this conflict, take the word of a disinterested outsider, NO ONE WINS when hate rules. Might does NOT make right either.
Oh get over yourself. I am on the side of the Palestinians from way back and have taken massive heat from over amped zionist rage cases so I do not need your whiney shit. I wonder if you really are what you claim to be or are you another shill out to antagonize friends? "Knock knock knock" "any mossad boys in there?"
Well you did sound like an apologist for the Zionist state to me. As for my so called whining I'm just telling you facts of the matter. You're steadily trying to blame this all on religion. I'm saying that's a very small part to Arab Israeli conflict. Only a lunatic Neocon propagandist would try and blame this whole thing on the Muslim religion i.e. Islamofascist and Islamic extremest and the like.
I have a real problem with ALL organized religions, they all carry baggage that would break the backs of a thousand camels. Zionist appologist though? I am so thoroughly disappointed and disgusted by them it is hard to digest sometimes. Of ALL the people on earth to behave the way they do is beyond unforgivable. It's like a rape victim deciding to not only do some raping themselves, they also decide to do it to young children. Unspeakable and unforgivable. But, no one is blameless now.
the "Zionist state," as you call it, is a reality, and has won six or seven wars. It's not going anywhere, and its existence is not up for question. Any agreement will have to be between the Arab states, the Palestinians AND Israel. That's reality, Jack.
Yeah but that state over there wouldn't been that successful if the US government along with it's braindead Christian Zionist backers in the bible belt hadn't givin Israel the arms and money to defeat those arabs. If that not had happened Israel would have went under long ago. Without US tax money this military bragging from the likes of Zionist apologist like yourself would be just empty talk. You just remember that. Also Israel is NOT exempt from any criticisms what so ever.
Also I just didn't make up that term "Zionist State". You will hear Jewish leaders in America and in Israel claim that Israel as a "Zionist State". I didn't make that up.
Read your Bible. Germany is not our holy land. And Israel is not the Arabs' holy land--Mecca is. By the way, I am considered a "dove" and even a leftist on the conflict--but I am a proud believer in Judaism.
The Palestinians also kill themselves by suicide bombing because they don't have F-16 and Abrams tanks given to them by the US government. SO they do what they can to damage Israel with the same amount of damage the Zionists dishes out to them. Give the Palestinians F-16 fighter jets and you wont have to worry about suicide bombers.
If it's for security, then why does the path of the wall encroach upon Palestinian territory? Why does it have to cut off Palestinian towns from their own farmland?
The International Court of Justice, in 2004, determined that the path of the wall (and yes, it decided that "wall" is the appropriate word) in the West Bank is illegal according to international law!
LOL there was a suicide attack in Israel just 2 weeks ago, good job wall!
luke26126 4 months ago
Bunch of lies
gobuddyboy 9 months ago
Every one speaks of Jewish rebuilding their homeland in Judea and Samaria/West Bank per International law but they don't speak of the Arab Settlers who uses their villages to propound terror. Why is it. Israel has a full right to be in Judea & Samaria and indeed has the legal right to be there as oppose to the Arabs. And the wall wouldn't have been erected if it wasn't for the Arab suicide homicide bombers --- Arab Culture of barbarism, sadly.
triplecheck4 1 year ago
The very existence of a state founded on the evil cult of Zionism puts everyone in danger. Endless Rage, War, Murder under a black cloak of smoke, mirrors, deception, lies and fear are where Zionism is at. Pure Hell on Earth.
Isochest 2 years ago
israhell has stolen Palestine. There is no fucking evidence that they have even owned the place 2000 years ago. A damn faerie tale book with no forensic evidence is not proof even it was true.
Suicide bombers my ass. Very few of them. Probably most of them mossad / shin bet false flags.
ThoughCriminal912 2 years ago 5
thats right we palestieniens deserve are land back
pinky315 2 years ago
whatever jews do to protect themselves is not legitimate, ha? we dont have to give explanations. palestinians are our enemies. we owe them nothing.
winkelsbergkatif7 3 years ago
I myself am opposed to the wall, but the wall is the topic of this post--it's not supposed to open the door to an orgy of general Israeo-bashing.
RaananVolesPianist 2 years ago
He says "they blow up innocent israelis" but wait as an certified israeli citizen dont you have to join the military as mandatory? Also if the whole of the israeli population are active in the military wouldnt that make ALL israelis military targets? If im wrong on this someone correct me.
xxashyy 3 years ago
so someone who has servered their manditory military term and now lives a peaceful life doing whatever their peacetime vocation may be is now made a target because of a government policy? They be serving or may be reservists but that doesnt give somone the right to get on a bus and blow them up while they go to the mall to relax with their friends
cisforcurtis 3 years ago
No it doesn't justify is just like when the Israeli armies declares collective punishment by strafing on a Palestinian apartment complex and justified it by claiming to get at one terrorist. Or just like when Israel tried to depopulate Lebanon in 2006 because of a couple of "kidnappings" when all the Israeli's had to do was negotiate.
xxashyy 3 years ago
I am saying is that civilians not affiliated with the military should not be targets in the modern world, and that goes for any standing army. Most of the Arabs in the west bank or Gaza don't have any policy unlike in Israel that demands you join Hamas or Fatah, but the Israelis don't see it that way. So the Israelis cant have it both ways.
xxashyy 3 years ago
What about the Palestinians? Do they not have a right to security? What about Israel now contemplating building settlements in East Arab Jerusalem? Is that not a provocation? Fact is, Israel invites violence upon itself. Do they think people will not retaliate when their homes are bulldozed with their family members inside? Israel started the terrorism. THEY started the bombings, it's historical fact. The first suicide bombing wasn't until 1994 after years of oppression.
FattKidd 3 years ago 7
The Palestinians should have erected a wall back in the late 40s when the Israeli settlers started invading their lands and planting car and package bombs to drive Palestinians off God's chosen land for God's chosen people.
FattKidd 3 years ago 4
There is likely no god, as there is no evidence of a god. The existence of people like theists is evidence that there especially is no righteous god.
MassZombicide 3 years ago 2
I believe there is a higher power. I just don't believe he picks favorite peoples and has favorite pieces of land on Earth. What a load of egotistical bullshit. Think about that, 'God's Chosen People'? Give me a freakin break. And, God decided the land of the Canaanites was to be your 'Promised land'? Nice. THAT is not a God I want to believe in. 'That which you do to the LEAST of my brothers, you do unto me.' is a God I can get behind. Sorry but, Zionism is racism as Aryianism is racism.
FattKidd 3 years ago
Ah, I hadn't realized the part about chosen people was intended as sarcasm
MassZombicide 3 years ago
LOL, yeah. I guess it wasn't as clear as I thought.
FattKidd 3 years ago
God's chosen? My ass. What a presumptuous attitude. Even Obama will be embarassed with this kind of presumptuous manner
freesoul2005 3 years ago
I doubt it. He'll do/say whatever his handlers tell him.
FattKidd 3 years ago
We have become a world of Nations who can now use the threat of terrorism to justify virtually any action imaginable.
ogjimkenobi 3 years ago 3
So if you lived in Israel you wouldnt want protection? The threats to Israel are not like the threats in other countries,they are much more likely.
69Macleod69 3 years ago
I'm not even on Israel's side, yet I can see the functionality of the wall in stopping terrorism. Magicdog200 & Irtidad might be right that it's positioned wrong, so maybe it should be moved back but it's still necessary & isn't a sign of Israeli aggression. If anything, it's a sign of Palestinian aggression, particularly the infamous Palestinian terrorism the wall was initiated to keep out. The questioner is wrong, there's no apparent conflict of interest in the security fence & attaining peace
MassZombicide 3 years ago
Well, actually he did have to ask that question whether he believed it to be the case or not seeing as it's a hot topic but the implication in the overly simplified way it was asked was wrong.
MassZombicide 3 years ago
lol it's kinda funny how he characterizes the Palestinian complaints against the wall, that it's "ugly" and "inconvenient." As if Palestinians are just a bunch of flamboyant, fashion-conscious interior designers or something.
Irtidad 3 years ago
call it a fence call it a wall. i call it a cage. israel has no right to to this land. the wall is just another sign of their aggression.
magicdog200 3 years ago 4
If it's for security, then why does it encroach upon Palestinian territory? Why does it cut off towns from their own farmland?
In 2004 the International Court of Justice, the highest judicial body in the world, determined that the path of the wall (and yes, it decided that "wall" is the most appropriate term) is illegal according to international law and therefore it must be dismantled.
Irtidad 3 years ago
UGH why are Fora videos so stupid like that? They make me repeat comments because they don't show up for eons!
Irtidad 3 years ago
Irtidad, does this happen only when you comment on our videos? We don't screen comments before they post, only video responses.
ForaTv 3 years ago
Not irtidad here, but this does happen on other channels too. Sometimes you'll get a lag of up to 5 minutes.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
I can't say. It usually takes about 10 minutes or so before I can see that I've made a comment, even though the "Post Comment" button turns into "Comment Posted!" and not "Comment Pending Approval."
Irtidad 3 years ago
That sounds frustrating, sorry about that. We'll contact YouTube and see what we can find out. In the meantime, if your comment isn't showing up, it's not because we've blocked it - we only delete comments if they're spam, or if they're explicitly offensive. Hope that helps.
ForaTv 3 years ago
OK, thank you. It's not a particularly big deal anyways.
Irtidad 3 years ago
The wall? Yes. Further settlements? Hell no.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
The two are more inseparable than you think. The path of the wall is often directly for the purpose of protecting new settlements, and for giving settlements better land resources; more often than not, the wall goes up directly against the border of a Palestinian village, thus cutting it off from its own farmland, and thus allowing some new Israeli settlement to use that farmland instead.
Irtidad 3 years ago
Well, my reliance on filtered American information sources is showing. A wall to inhibit terrorism is semi okay, but as a back door land grab? Not good....or very smart in the long run.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
Yes I would agree with you.
Irtidad 3 years ago
So you don't care that 1000s of Jewish lives have been saved by this wall - you just want Palestinian victory. Filthy bloodthirsty murderer.
manco82 3 years ago
I want justice. I don't want anyone to kill themselves over something as out dated and socially retarded as religious beliefs. Of all the organized religions, I just so happen to like Judaism the best. Why? Because they don't PROSELYTIZE!!!! But...is the wall fair? Do settlers from Israel take advantage of land that has been walled off from the Pali. owners?
If I could, I would evac the entire area and NUKE it, sea of glass, take away the bad kids toys and see how they hate anew.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
The Palestinians don't blow themselves up over there religion. People like yourself must get that through your head. They do it because of Israels injustice over the years and counting. Negotiate with them by halting all settlements, tear down the apartheid wall, move back to the 67 borders, and treat all citizens in Israel equally and believe me the terrorism problem would fade. Otherwise this problem will continue and more criticism will go towards Israel and the aid it gets from US taxpayers.
xxashyy 3 years ago
pLEASE DON'T MAKE ASSUMPTIONS SIR. Ooops I would rather the damn Israelis have a nice big piece of Germany. I didn't see any evidence of Palestinian Concentration camp involvement so why punish them for German misdeeds?
But I still sometimes daydream about turning the entire region into a sea of glass, none of the great religions have covered themselves with glory in this conflict, take the word of a disinterested outsider, NO ONE WINS when hate rules. Might does NOT make right either.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
Whatever man. Either YOU DON'T GET IT. Or you don't want to and never will.
xxashyy 3 years ago
Oh get over yourself. I am on the side of the Palestinians from way back and have taken massive heat from over amped zionist rage cases so I do not need your whiney shit. I wonder if you really are what you claim to be or are you another shill out to antagonize friends? "Knock knock knock" "any mossad boys in there?"
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
Well you did sound like an apologist for the Zionist state to me. As for my so called whining I'm just telling you facts of the matter. You're steadily trying to blame this all on religion. I'm saying that's a very small part to Arab Israeli conflict. Only a lunatic Neocon propagandist would try and blame this whole thing on the Muslim religion i.e. Islamofascist and Islamic extremest and the like.
xxashyy 3 years ago
I have a real problem with ALL organized religions, they all carry baggage that would break the backs of a thousand camels. Zionist appologist though? I am so thoroughly disappointed and disgusted by them it is hard to digest sometimes. Of ALL the people on earth to behave the way they do is beyond unforgivable. It's like a rape victim deciding to not only do some raping themselves, they also decide to do it to young children. Unspeakable and unforgivable. But, no one is blameless now.
Plutonwolf 3 years ago
the "Zionist state," as you call it, is a reality, and has won six or seven wars. It's not going anywhere, and its existence is not up for question. Any agreement will have to be between the Arab states, the Palestinians AND Israel. That's reality, Jack.
RaananVolesPianist 2 years ago
Yeah but that state over there wouldn't been that successful if the US government along with it's braindead Christian Zionist backers in the bible belt hadn't givin Israel the arms and money to defeat those arabs. If that not had happened Israel would have went under long ago. Without US tax money this military bragging from the likes of Zionist apologist like yourself would be just empty talk. You just remember that. Also Israel is NOT exempt from any criticisms what so ever.
xxashyy 2 years ago
Also I just didn't make up that term "Zionist State". You will hear Jewish leaders in America and in Israel claim that Israel as a "Zionist State". I didn't make that up.
xxashyy 2 years ago
Read your Bible. Germany is not our holy land. And Israel is not the Arabs' holy land--Mecca is. By the way, I am considered a "dove" and even a leftist on the conflict--but I am a proud believer in Judaism.
RaananVolesPianist 2 years ago
The Palestinians also kill themselves by suicide bombing because they don't have F-16 and Abrams tanks given to them by the US government. SO they do what they can to damage Israel with the same amount of damage the Zionists dishes out to them. Give the Palestinians F-16 fighter jets and you wont have to worry about suicide bombers.
xxashyy 3 years ago
If it's for security, then why does the path of the wall encroach upon Palestinian territory? Why does it have to cut off Palestinian towns from their own farmland?
The International Court of Justice, in 2004, determined that the path of the wall (and yes, it decided that "wall" is the appropriate word) in the West Bank is illegal according to international law!
Irtidad 3 years ago