also thinking back depending on the rules he could have went into hand to hand combat in an attempt to catch his opponent off balance or disarm him and strike back
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nice technique but not a japanese manevaur he must have been studieing european styles and incorparated them into his technique. for that is a standerd maneauvar used by duelist with rapiers or fencers to unarm an oppenent or get past their deffense. the japanese style of using a sword focuses mainly on quick slashes and upercuts it is rare for a thrusting maneauver to be incorparated like that
@Fre3ZeZ0nE Actually that's quite common. Not the fact that the opponent's shinai flew out of his hands, but the parry the other gentleman did. Usually after such a move is performed and it's assessed that the opponent's grip is weaker or too relaxed, that kind of move is followed up with a men or kote strike.
The only "rapier fencers" I've seen try and use that are stunt fencers performing theatrically. Compound grips tend to make maneuvers like this rather hard to pull off successfully, you see. (There's much more efficient ways to go about disarming opponents, and sometimes even putting them into locks and such.)
i probably would have stopped after the shinai flew away too(if i was the person who made the shinai fly away) but that is actually a GREAT opportunity after it flies away you have about 2(+/-) seconds to score a PERFECT men you just need to show you wanted to score by loudly screaming MEEEEEEEEEN and having a decent speed os you could get up to him even if he stepped back like in this video.anyway its all easy saying,but of course its not just a walk in the park doing it :)
@ekoukano Not a kendoka, but, I am kobodoka and having a death grip on a weapon kills the natural use of the object and impedes ability. Is that not the same with a shinai?
That's a real kendo technique called makiage. The competitors have the 7 Dan level and they hold the shinai very weakly. The one who does the makiage more quickly, wins.
lol I saw my senpai do that to my sensei once during Shiki practice, except there was no referee to call time out, so my senpai was chasing my sensei all around the dojo whacking him as they go.
Take a look at how long it take the armed fighter to get his point back on target. Even if he had gone for a tackle the instant he lost his weapon, he would've been skewered through the belly.
before modern kendo. The pre war kendo allowed tackling and lock holding the opponent to the ground even using the opponents' armour against themselves, so i dont know if saying tackling is not samurai like is a proven statement.
Hmm. This could have been set up to "look cool"... but... if it was not--you *DO* see that the fighter on the left makes a test "beat" on the other fighter's shinai... and possibly determined: "hey... that's one LOOSE grip", and gave the disarmament a shot. It clearly worked.
Still... the gent who posted is right: it doesn't happen very often! :)
no, its embarrassing (especially at their level) but you only loose half a point. Its basically a foul, but unless he already had another foul before this, it doesn't effect him that much.
I did this movement 2 weeks ago. I was fighting against a senpai(and he's too damn fast) and I just made a "double harai" and his shinai went flying against a wall. Hahaha...
does that count as an instant win?
SpiningChocolate 19 hours ago
Pretty nice Maki waza maneuver !!!!
xxgoodideaxx 2 weeks ago
lol i think when i start using bogu and shinai i might try this XD I think I might be yelled at by my sensei though :/
KELLERMANisBACK 2 months ago
Shamefur dispray.
Wildcat425B 3 months ago
I like the audience's "OOOH"
CornflakeSlayer 3 months ago
@CornflakeSlayer typical japanese ^^
anormaluser 1 month ago
Wow... it never came back down...
ScoutSniper127 3 months ago 2
Wow. That was pretty impressive.
TheAngelJC 5 months ago
oh and im pretty sure its mien not men
Fre3ZeZ0nE 6 months ago
also thinking back depending on the rules he could have went into hand to hand combat in an attempt to catch his opponent off balance or disarm him and strike back
Fre3ZeZ0nE 6 months ago
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nice technique but not a japanese manevaur he must have been studieing european styles and incorparated them into his technique. for that is a standerd maneauvar used by duelist with rapiers or fencers to unarm an oppenent or get past their deffense. the japanese style of using a sword focuses mainly on quick slashes and upercuts it is rare for a thrusting maneauver to be incorparated like that
Fre3ZeZ0nE 6 months ago
@Fre3ZeZ0nE Actually that's quite common. Not the fact that the opponent's shinai flew out of his hands, but the parry the other gentleman did. Usually after such a move is performed and it's assessed that the opponent's grip is weaker or too relaxed, that kind of move is followed up with a men or kote strike.
zackattack7778 6 months ago 3
@Fre3ZeZ0nE
The only "rapier fencers" I've seen try and use that are stunt fencers performing theatrically. Compound grips tend to make maneuvers like this rather hard to pull off successfully, you see. (There's much more efficient ways to go about disarming opponents, and sometimes even putting them into locks and such.)
HipposHateWater 5 months ago
sometimes I can truly understand the concept of seppuku...
johnbaptistlulu 6 months ago 2
the answer - harakiri
antikoerper256 8 months ago
*In head*
"Whoa whoa whoa whoa!!!! shit......"
Shrumins 10 months ago
i probably would have stopped after the shinai flew away too(if i was the person who made the shinai fly away) but that is actually a GREAT opportunity after it flies away you have about 2(+/-) seconds to score a PERFECT men you just need to show you wanted to score by loudly screaming MEEEEEEEEEN and having a decent speed os you could get up to him even if he stepped back like in this video.anyway its all easy saying,but of course its not just a walk in the park doing it :)
RaiceaAndrei111 10 months ago
He's like... "Great... Now I gotta go commit seppuku... Awesome..."
GuamKomudo 11 months ago 15
@GuamKomudo with a shinai? ouch.
TheDevilHawkFilms 2 months ago
ohhh thats really emberassing
xRAZORxIIxRAZORx 11 months ago
Awww! D: Poor kendoka!
mlavik1 1 year ago
lol funny shit check out my channel for shinai fights
beefaronin 1 year ago
after the match he commit hara kiri
zenaku85 1 year ago
i hate to be that guy, everybody is watching this video and laugh
zenaku85 1 year ago
He brought great dishonor to his famiry.
panterarocks9 1 year ago
@panterarocks9 hahahaha
zenaku85 1 year ago
Wait, what happens if the guy gets unarmed, does his opponent get a point or something?
a1c41 1 year ago
@a1c41 no, they just stop the match, and start again. i think the one who lost the shinai got a warning(2 warnings=1 point to the other one)
zenaku85 1 year ago
@a1c41 depending on a judge....he/she can stop the match right away, or give it a sec or 2, for disarmer to score point on udefended oponent
MrPihtija 1 year ago
According to people at my dojo, my senseis constantly disarm people when they aren't concentrating.
Seeing as how the kote makes you have a deathgrip on the shinai, it just shows how strong the sensei has to be.
And this happens /every/ keiko, to different people.
ekoukano 1 year ago
@ekoukano Not a kendoka, but, I am kobodoka and having a death grip on a weapon kills the natural use of the object and impedes ability. Is that not the same with a shinai?
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
Im not too sure of the rules. is that allowed??
Hoodeeny 1 year ago
@Hoodeeny yep
zenaku85 1 year ago
rofflestomped.
Supercucu123 1 year ago
epic fail... but it's ok, we still love him. Whoever he is.
narusasu 1 year ago
Win
Pottunator 1 year ago
Lolol i was just learning that move. I'll be sure not to let go of my shinai XD
jellybeanguitarist 1 year ago
Hansoku??
Azhorat 1 year ago
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Azhorat 1 year ago
he looks so confused... "wtf just happened...?"
seanschwei 1 year ago 2
ITS OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!
MatheusRebelo 1 year ago
i´m turning red
linakabra 1 year ago
Not a kendo-ka, does the guy that was disarmed lose because of it? it would seem so.
IEKUKATAKA 1 year ago
Well he didn't drop it. It's not like he went "here, you can have it" *lets go of shinai*. It was more like *gets disarmed* "wtf!"
ChaoticAnamnesis 1 year ago
Wow... Seppuku yourself. Right now.
lamyunholic 1 year ago
LOL
coloss3070 1 year ago
ズゴイ 0-0
itachi58kun 1 year ago
この原理は、合気道と同じ原理だ。俺も竹刀巻き上げをしたことあるが、本当にタイミングと相手の油断だと思う。元々竹刀を力んで持つ人間はいないと思う。竹刀のスピードが落ちるから。適度なリラックスが必要だ。野球でいうところの、空振り三振バット放り投げのようなものだろ?
akachinko 1 year ago
this is when seppuku should be preformed ....
zegan82 1 year ago
Very nice! But the guy in red should have moved in and made a nice men cut to get ippon...
Nurelius 1 year ago
That was a beautiful manuever!
TimusOminere 1 year ago
wow this is like the biggest humiliation...
songyee92 1 year ago
"where did it go"? xD
kyleismrsmiley 2 years ago 4
おいおいおい
そんなことありえるのかよ
newvelocityVIP 2 years ago
うん、そうだよね!
zackattack7778 2 years ago
That's a real kendo technique called makiage. The competitors have the 7 Dan level and they hold the shinai very weakly. The one who does the makiage more quickly, wins.
Arekusu93 2 years ago
can you do that? And if you can is the match over or something else?
CzeslawMeyer012 2 years ago
the opponent recieves hansoku-ikkei. two of them make you score ippon. (4xhansoku=you win)
CaptainLutra 1 year ago
@CaptainLutra
Being disarmed 4 times in succession would be PAINFUL to see. lol
ChaoticAnamnesis 1 year ago
the guy who made his opponent to lose weapon should have big points for that.
salserony 2 years ago
lol I saw my senpai do that to my sensei once during Shiki practice, except there was no referee to call time out, so my senpai was chasing my sensei all around the dojo whacking him as they go.
191121001 2 years ago 4
@191121001 Hahahah, that's hilarious.
almoroth 1 year ago
@191121001 wow you'd expect it to be the other way round haha
Robotman42 1 year ago
"He should have tackled him"?
Take a look at how long it take the armed fighter to get his point back on target. Even if he had gone for a tackle the instant he lost his weapon, he would've been skewered through the belly.
Mistwraith99 2 years ago
lmao.. thats happened to me once..
shmoyang 2 years ago
before modern kendo. The pre war kendo allowed tackling and lock holding the opponent to the ground even using the opponents' armour against themselves, so i dont know if saying tackling is not samurai like is a proven statement.
solidevash 2 years ago
He should've tackled his opponent.
lol
ChaoticAnamnesis 2 years ago
it would not be a way of samurai.. not a way of kendo ... if he did like u said
tandatokita 2 years ago 4
Ok.. maybe not tackle him to the point of bringing him to the ground but just to immobilize him..
But sure as hell don't just stand there. Even samurai would have not just stood there..
ChaoticAnamnesis 2 years ago
Oh yes. Using a takedown or throw is a very un-samurai-ish thing to do. Ever hear of jiu-jutsu?
BakaYaru13 2 years ago
wow his shinai got flung in the air it didnt really look like he droped it.....
fastang2 2 years ago
Oh the shame he must be feeling...
Delmo67 2 years ago 51
oh yee xD
Peppergon 2 years ago
Is it an automatic point?
iwsab 2 years ago
You get point for hit not for disarming.
Hokotoro 2 years ago
ah ... the walk of shame after a makiatoshi
kumameyer87 2 years ago
if some one is capable of doing such no prob to you, you should know the difference in power
ZomgAnime00 2 years ago
jajajajajaj muy bueno
wolffrost 2 years ago
Hmm. This could have been set up to "look cool"... but... if it was not--you *DO* see that the fighter on the left makes a test "beat" on the other fighter's shinai... and possibly determined: "hey... that's one LOOSE grip", and gave the disarmament a shot. It clearly worked.
Still... the gent who posted is right: it doesn't happen very often! :)
greytale 2 years ago
wow i once on my training saw my sensei smack there partner shinai start of a match...but this like "weeeeeee" and "WTH man not cool"
combat602 2 years ago
did they end the fight with that? Well, I guess what can you do? Its like the queen-bishop checkmate in 4 moves!
ColonelMarksman 3 years ago
no, its embarrassing (especially at their level) but you only loose half a point. Its basically a foul, but unless he already had another foul before this, it doesn't effect him that much.
Dadarkside43v3r 2 years ago
I would love to try that move against the senpai at my dojo!!
Chownz 3 years ago
haha, don't, you'd get raped XD
gingin1992 2 years ago 2
Me! Neva they have to catch me first!! ;)
Chownz 2 years ago
maybe tht dude is too nervous.
nagasefreak 3 years ago
The kendoka whose shinai flew in the air looked a bit like "hey man..what the hell, not nice."
ChaoticAnamnesis 3 years ago 37
lol good one
iheartrealhiphop 3 years ago
This is supposed to happen if you are holding your shinai too loose, or too tight even? In between is just right... right?
pailhead11 3 years ago
dead
MockEmpire 3 years ago
J'd
KWSoccer 3 years ago
game over... pwned...
tat was an awesome move :D
Priest105 3 years ago
lol
jmek01 3 years ago
I did this movement 2 weeks ago. I was fighting against a senpai(and he's too damn fast) and I just made a "double harai" and his shinai went flying against a wall. Hahaha...
JahirShuji 3 years ago
that must be the greatest move ever done XD
But sreiously the arena is larger than i thought it would be.
GeishaRei 3 years ago 2
oh my goodness. that would suck. I've dropped my weapon a few times, but never in front of a large group.
shoulung 3 years ago
Poor guy...
Fosgeeni 3 years ago
...Pwnage...
shadow6k 4 years ago 2
it always happens to me >.>" by my master... it actually goes flying across the room like a spear or drops like i was holding a ton.
HeroOfXanadus 4 years ago