Marth Is Over Powered (most likely)

[OmegaTyrant4792]

Marth himself may not be overpowered, but you could make a case for his forward aerial :p

[aquafishsoup]

marth is not overpowered i main marth it's a bitch playing people who uses projectile.

[anthonytsaiat]

@aquafishsoup ok, think about falcons that play projectiles then. if marth is definitely overpowered compared to falcon. not saying falcons cna't beat marth, but it takes a lot more skill to beat a marth with falcon than a marth to beat a falcon

[aquafishsoup]

@anthonytsaiat it takes more skills to play as Ganon. it takes more skills to play as meta knight? oh right i can't play as meta knight or peach. the way you watch this video that wolf player sucks i lose to wolf all the time.

[jamesbond7477]

no character is overpowered its the player.

[hnycup]

making the person playing marth is just really good with him.

[Saeng1021]

If that's the case, Ken would never of complained about how fucked up Meta Knight is.

[Ariphilus]

Only a few days after it's initial release in Japan...that poor bastard Wolf probably didn't even know he could spam air dodge like a mofo (or, if he did, he probably couldn't get used to it XP).

[RTpmwe]

Brawlol

[Renkay141]

Mew2king is such a fukni noob, he keeps attacking 24/7, I think most of the people who battle him are just people who keep talking trash. at my school (highschool) Im the best overall, at my block still the best! I fukin own anybody, they aren't that bad but they all rage(go offence) just like mew2king... it's just stupid cuz they have so many openings!

[sca1pe1]

@Renkay141 uh ... I believe that the reason m2k attacks all the time is because he is sure to hit every time. ain't because he's raging.

plus : I also own most of the people I know, but there's no way I could ever beat anyone like m2k. the game is the guy's life, come on .....

[Renkay141]

@sca1pe1 I bet even u can.

I don't need ledge grabs to win

I don't need items to win

Don't need a cheap char(I don't mean overall cheap, I mean ABUSED MOVED) to win either.

I've got a skill that nobody has... not even m2k use it either.

Only Chars are :

Pit(best, no I don't spam side+B like a noob)

Ike(Predictions, and provocations are the best)

(not sure)Marth,Capt.Falcon(they have awesome attacks, and u can always have fun)

the rest of the characters OLIMAR is my worst, cuz he mad weird.

[sca1pe1]

@Renkay141 M2k was known to be the best marth player out on SSBM in the world at some point. I agree that he won't win against every player. I'm not so sure you would take a game outta 10 from him. I'm sure I wouldn't, but I don't train brawl so hard. anyways, you should try him to see for yourself :)

[KeybladeXIIIMaster]

@Renkay141 LOL you sound like a fucking n00b. gtfo

[Renkay141]

@KeybladeXIIIMaster I'll kick ur ass anyday, talking trash like that >.>

[KeybladeXIIIMaster]

@Renkay141 Are you stupid? Seriously? Come to my clan one day and see if your truly good. I doubt it.

[Renkay141]

@KeybladeXIIIMaster

<-- uses famous excuse

Im a mercenary :P U giv mee Cookies and I will kill anybody u want

xD

oh...

and I got a typo : R+DOWN<--- or L+DOWN.

[KeybladeXIIIMaster]

@Renkay141 "at my block still the best".

LOLOLOL. dont tell me you can kcik my ass retard. chances are all you do is shield rol land think your good cause of that.

[Renkay141]

@KeybladeXIIIMaster No That's what people keep doing, that's for ppl who are mental :P

Dodging as in "R or L + DOWN" taking timing and more skill. Dumie My counter is ultimate!

[KeybladeXIIIMaster]

@Renkay141 *facepalm.* is your iq below 20? Are you grammatically illiterate?

Watch some of the best melee and brawlers in the world and (sidestepping is the correct terminology) they do not do that. It's a two step process. Try B DACUSing. That's the only thing that takes ahem, "skill" in brawl.

[Renkay141]

@KeybladeXIIIMaster Oh I guess since I "DIN'T KNOW THAT" I should just aim the other way.

or since I'm smart I could just do U+A and hit the person with uber range, Regarding the fact that I would be using Marth/Ike/Pit/Link or any character that would have180 degree range or at least has enough to hit the person in "time". it is easily counter-able and a dumb trick that people has still NEVER realised... THANK U 4 WAISTING MA TIME 8D

[jxw6762]

this is more like a melee match than a brawl match

[kevinkenny3]

Marth isn't overpowered. Wolf is just worse.

[AeonsOfFrost]

It's funny that you're fighting Wolf, because of all lower-tiered characters, he probably has one of the best Marth matchups. Until very recently, it was even rated as even. The Marth boards have it at 55-45, while it remains even according to the Wolf boards.

/nerd.

[GIfish7]

How about this to end the old argument and begin a new? You both suck. :P

[wiitubeaccount]

that too aggressive wolf sucked no offense. Not airdodging marth's high priority arial doesn't make sense. but the marth was giving a fairer fight, he didn't use meta knight. wow that kinda rhymed

[SoraRoxas111]

WOW O_O Overkill

[SwiftSmith53]

marth isnt overpowered. wolf is underpowered

[BrawlDaBest]

NIIIIIICEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuperSmashRitz]

I still love playing Melee a lot more, wish THAT were online, be the same thing as this actually only 10 times faster lol, might just be me though.

[lovingmonkay]

i wish melee was online or that brawl had a halfway decent online mode

[goateeguy11221122]

well done ken combo, but wolf wasn't really played too well. get a friend who's better at camping and you'll know what a good wolf plays like xP

[ZombiezRCool]

is wolf considdered overpowered?

[henchick]

Wow way to pit a real shitty character against a real good character and have the nerve to call the good character overpowered.

[HayabusaNoTsuchi]

He's not overpowered just because people know how to play as him.

[BloodFeather]

umm kind sir there are no really good marth players on brawl... at least not good enough winning major tourneys i only see tornadoes and grenades there =/

[HayabusaNoTsuchi]

My argument was that Marth is not overpowered, not that people play tournaments as him. And even if they don't, which I both doubt and would not know since I don't watch Brawl tournaments, that doesn't mean that no one is good at Marth.

[BloodFeather]

what im saying is that hes not good enough of a character / there are no ppl playin him good enough to win tourneys with him... at least no big / important ones well w/e doesn't really matter ;p

[HayabusaNoTsuchi]

Marth is a great character and debated to be the best in Melee. The only reason he isn't as frequently used in Brawl is because now there are characters like Meta Knight.

[BloodFeather]

and wario and snake and diddi kong and falco and DDD

[Grooviliciousness]

@BloodFeather Bladewise

[BloodFeather]

hes #11 on WPR alone -__-;

[Grooviliciousness]

That's nothing to sneeze at. Best Marth I know of, though.

[BloodFeather]

ummm how about mikesomething i think hes better idk though

[Grooviliciousness]

MikeHaze? I don't think I've actually seen a Brawl video of him. I'll have to go searching

[BloodFeather]

think so but w/e i dont give a crap about brawl anyhow ;p

[XDbonsly]

Ken Comboooooo

[boooshk]

Brawl Sucks Dick.

[Demonhansi014]

like yo mama ^^

Btw I like brawl, still melee is actually better, but who cares ??

[Aziztheterrorist]

Melee is better, but really. Who cares? they´re both fun

[hootatoot]

I agree

[papermarioTTYD12345]

then dont come to a brawl video

fucking idiot >_>

[boooshk]

lol sry i wanted to see if brawl had any decent videos. couldn't find any :p

melee for life.

[papermarioTTYD12345]

well then dont leave a comment if you arent interested in brawl

just click a different video

[lagorbian]

@DaGarebear its in the fucking discription you mental retard Quick Brawl 2 stock match no items

[DigitalMachina]

How the hell do you get "Marf" to sweet spot em' like that? I have trouble trying to do it...lol

[IIIIKYLE]

take away air dodging (which the wolf did not do) and then marth is over powered.

[juiey2]

@IIIIKYLE

hey loser, you know what frame data or air dodge read is?

[IIIIKYLE]

@juiey2 That was over a year ago looking back on my comment it looks kinda stupid xD

I don't know what ppl would vote that comment up -.-

[FireEmblem88]

im just gunna say this guys because right now you're all acting like Children .

Like Illuzionair was saying, They're basically the same Characters, different feels, speed strength, with A moves that are a tad different, but they basically are the same character.

As for Marth, Roy and Ike, i do think they should have kept Roy, infact, they shouldnt have removed anyone(Roy,Mewtwo,Pichu) im glad they removed Young Link Considering they added Toon Link.

[illuzionair]

Marth isn't overpowered. They should've kept Roy, Marth and just added Ike. Fox, Wolf and Falco are all the same which is gay.

[Beastica17]

i know i wish they kept roy

[MeowMixFade]

Fox, Wolf, and Falco all have completely different feels, especially Wolf, whose a attacks are completely different. Nothing against Roy, of course. They should've kept everyone in. ^-^

[Warrenoh]

No their not..

if you actually played them rather than just spamming a smash attack you would know. Even then their different.

[illuzionair]

I do play with them? I've played every character in the game? Falco is slower than Fox and Wolf is the slowest out of all three of them but he has the heaviest hits. Falco is inbetween them and his down b move, he just throws his reflector. Wolf is just an upgraded version of Fox and something they were probably having ideas of doing to Fox. I never remember Wolf being in Star Fox in the first place. They should've kept all 3 Fire Emblem characters. Roy's moves could have been changed.

[Warrenoh]

You dont even deserve my time.

Im physically laughing at you.

Falco is by FAR the better out of the 3 space animals and most of the Brawl roster, he has so much control and counters its quite ridiculous at times. His chaingrab is just silly and depressing at the same time. No Wolf is NOT an upgraded version of Fox he is infact quite abit worse.

Wolf is Fox's RIVAL in Starfox you IDIOT.

Get off of youtube.

[illuzionair]

Really? I'm not the type of person to just insult someone on the internet. When I was a child, I didn't spend all of my time playing Starfox? Unlike you, I played sports and didn't sit my fat ass in front of a video game all day. The Starfox on Gamecube, Wolf was not in there. Everyone else was. I don't remember him in the old one. Maybe my memory isn't as good as yours? Quit getting so steamed up over a video game. Personally, I was a Mario and Zelda fan when I was younger. So fuck you, cunt.

[illuzionair]

And for the record, in SSBB and SSBM, Fox can rip Falco apart. Falco was a good addition to the game, just not the best they've decided to put. The Fire Emblem characters were better, but you know, since people think Marth is over powered because he's not, it's whatever. I'm guessing you don't know how to play. :D

[Magmaclaw]

terrible wolf

[Sotostrike]

i remember i was good with marth in melee, but after i use ike in brawl, i now suck with marth =]

[Poptartza]

whoever you were playing needs to learn how to use wolf or switch to someone else. I pwn with Wolf

[KILLERMILLER250]

im so much better with marth

[FishFoodAndStuff]

Oh really? This video was posted within three weeks of Brawl's Japanese release (January 31, 2008). When was your comment posted? June of this year? Yeah, big time difference. This person could probably play a 30-stock match against your Marth and not lose a life.

[GamingNoob101]

which final smash is better Ike's OR Marths Ikes is Holy Shit Awesome But Marths is ok its only one slice but KO hit Awesome ima Say Ike is better i like that character

[JDLupus]

Marth's is far easier and more damaging to your opponent if you hit with it. If you're on a stage with a ledge I'd pick Marth any day.

[ToonethLinkage]

Its almost impossible being a good Marth player without mastering his spike. =) Thank God I did.

[BrawlPwnt]

wow pretty good vid, come check out vids and let us know what you think :)

[SonicGamer333]

Did it work?

[SonicGamer333]

oops, didn't think that got posted the first time. it was a response to erikrickytm's comment.

[SonicGamer333]

Did it work?

[FireMario149]

The annotations kinda made the video anti-climantic.

[Bucky9061]

no ike is overpowered

[dasstefan]

true :)

[MLKilly]

I laugh at that... Seriously.

He's not even close.

[Panther00700]

true that, Ike is only good at nub level play but he's not winning any proper tournament anytime soon.

[KeybladeXIIIMaster]

@Panther00700 Look up San and you'll see he barely lost to ally.

[Panther00700]

@KeybladeXIIIMaster my comment was over 1,5 years old... I don't even consider Brawl a fighter anymore :/

[Zhoaten]

Wooooooow. Definition of Broken - Marth

[Icythedragon]

Someone doesn't look at statistics.

Metaknight.

[Zhoaten]

Lol, Meta Knight is broken too, but Marth is either right up their with him, or very close. Either way, he's broken.

[Damascus682]

I'd love to see a video where people WOULD AGREE that the opponent didn't suck.

Seriously, people. Why do you insist on ignoring the facts?

[ArmusIctus]

That Wolf used Bthrow.

Not to mention, this is before the game even came out in America.

The opponent probably did suck. Though you can't really tell from this video, besides the Bthrow.

[OnlyChances]

Wolf is pretty good. It's just the person who is playing Wolf sucks big time. I thought Meta Knight was the cheapest, haven't seen Snake being cheap that often.....

[fflloooorriioo]

wtf the wolf i the bedest in the wil (and my english 2) XD whahaha noobs

[KuroJet]

What the fuck.

That.

Wolf.

Sucked.

Ass.

[LordWarr]

Weakest Wolf I've ever seen in my whole life, and I thought my Wolf sucked LMAO. Finally I can sleep well at night.

[Shinjutsuka]

Gee... I think I suck even more than him.

[KeyHead90]

SheeAAt!

I'm glad I've never fought any people who use Marth like this.

*devises counter measures*

[pinguinkip0]

Ken combo FTW!! lol

[Kishiru324]

Yea I noticed that too! xD

Does Ken combo actually work in Brawl?

[Daedatheus]

Nope... guy forgot to airdodge.

[stevenizback]

I like how ppl use a scruby player to benefit their video, they should be thanking them

[reddevilhorn]

Marth is only so good in phiscal becase he hs no ranged. DUH!

[holypho]

that wolf was stupid!!! why didnt he roll behind u!

[z4gnut]

Anyone who says it takes skill to play as Marth is someone who mains Marth or does not know how to play as Marth. End of story.

[heartfield90]

..because that made a lot of sense.

[Warrior536]

marth is still one of the strongest in brawl but hes a bit more balanced than in melee

[Finalbossruler]

Hell no, Marth is the second weakest in brawl. I'm an expert on strong characters and Marth is all about finess, deception, and speed therefore is not strong, even if his smashes are sweet spoted(the thing that makes people think that Marth is one of the strongest).

[Warrior536]

any characters can be good if you know how to use them. I've already seen a guy winning a 3vs1 with bowser in melee even if people classify him as ''shitty'' and the 3 people werent noobs. they were good in fact. the guy just knew how to use bowser well.

[Finalbossruler]

Bowser(my main) is a beast and ofcource the Bowser mainer would've won. In Melee Bowser was the strongest character so there's no doubt about that. I defeated three Meta Knight, Sheik, and Marth experts with Bowser on a 15 no-item stock match(epic 20 minnutes of my life). And I didn't say Marth suck, I said he was weak in terms of physical strenght even if his attacks are sweet spoted. Every character has different spacialties. Marth is balanced, while Bowser excells at power and defence/weight.

[Dellazice]

Yes, Marth has a low attack strength, but he is one of the 5 people in Brawl that can get a kill under 30%

[Finalbossruler]

No, the 5 people that can get a kill under 30%are King Dedede, Bowser, DK, Ike, and Snake. All 5 of those people can KO the lightest heavyweight(Wolf) under 30%(but Dedede can KO Bowser at 10%). Pokemon Trainer, Ganondorf, G&W, Ness, and Lucas are close seconds.

[FxckCensors]

@Dellazice

Yeah, I recorded a match where I one-hit a guy (if you don't count throw XD) with Marth.

[mchstrojan]

thank you

[tommyvance04]

Nothing to see here people, just a troll passing by!

[Finalbossruler]

Okay, what the fuck is trolling anyway?

[sageofblackdragons]

OMG ur so bad with marth i would pwn u

[Porthos5]

Ever bother to look at the date? Before the American release and before much was discovered about the Brawl changes.

[dwEEb813]

insult to injury :18

[megaman129]

marth is not over powered

it takes quite a bit of skill to use him and be good

but i cant compare those 2

cuz there both my fav chars

[Jolly2Lolly]

marth is a good char you know,

but this vid doesn't show marth's strenght,

it shows the fact that wolf player can't DI and air dodge properly.

[gambitking128]

omfg and he sux at recovery

[zerodemise46]

It's dirty..

THAT was dirty to watch because i'm a Wolf Player... =[

[myu16]

Youre all noobs

[adhdsoad]

Brawl is shit.

There we go.

[clayvision]

marth is too good though he didnt get a nerf at all from melee he still has his ken combo which is too overpowered considering his attacks are just too fast for most characters

[LoLwHaTsAgEnErAL]

smaller sword.

[whumper88]

ya he got nerfed so much i actually switch chars when i went from melee to brawl. it is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY harder to spike with him now. his b is now only horizontal not a half circle (making it harder to hit people) and getting the tip of his sword is much harder now.

[SilentKaiser]

k k k k k k k ken combo!

[uniquesheikfreak]

Oh yeah, and that's a novice Wolf fightin that Marth, clearly.

[uniquesheikfreak]

Just sayin, I'm used ta call spammin usin the same move(s) over and over again, and the AAA and the Aether fall inta that category for Ike.

As for Zelda, well, it'd be easier ta say what moves AREN'T spammable.

[uniquesheikfreak]

I don't necessarily call him as cheap as someone like Ike or Zelda (as far as spamming goes).

Just, people got skill. (Drago)

If he's cheap, then Metaknight's cheap too. He can max out on combos from dawn till dusk with an expert handlin him.

[slapurdad]

ike is not spammable i know that i main his, i know his aether is spammable but spamming means ur a shit player

[Link4everOot]

i main link and mart because htere both ownage

[swordofluminesence]

Snake can just Tilt you to death D:

But yeah, Marth is kinda overpowered because of his attack range, but not as Sheik or Fox were in Melee

[Pedronkitox]

what i dont like, is that samus SUCKS in this game, in melee was the best char (FOR ME)

good speed, hard punching and smash, best long distance atts. now ike and snake are very overpowered, i use wolf because i like its smash lawl .. he steps before smashing.. rox

[upy0ur5]

Samus sucks? That's what I thought until a Smasher Named tudor taught some stuff. Check his combo vid or his matches out and it will change your mind. Trust me, it will. The vid is called "TOOL: Tudor's Oranga Oompa Loompa"

[gwpwnsrs]

marth takes skill every character takes skill and once you know how to use them perfectly you are overpowered

[Chrisevil]

Very well said man =D

[GiantCaptiveFrog]

What... NO TECHING??? :( cmon wolf plz

[Brendan2080]

Well marth has a great overall

[smashbrosmaniac]

notice that all the NEW characters are the overpowered ones. just shows how much worse they made this game

[rob1out]

I need to clarify. This video came out 2 weeks after brawl came in JP. I played this 1 week after brawl came out and put it out a couple weeks after.

If you want to challenge me. Feel free to aim me at zomgitsadeezy. The wolf player doesnt suck. I'm just a boss. hahahaha.

I KNOW MARTH ISN'T OVERPOWERED. I'm all for the metaknight ban actually. Meta Knight= Meta Game.

[upy0ur5]

Yeah Marth is right in the middle of the Brawl roster. He's good against shitty characters and will get murder inevitably by overpowered characters like Meta, Lucas, Snake, and Toon Link. You litterally can Ken Combo with Toon Link. Everyone knows why meta and Snake are broken. Finally, Lucas can WOD (Wall of Death) most characters while camping with his PK thunder.

[IShotLazer]

El oh El at lucas being overpowered.....

But yeah Brawl overall sucks.

The game wasn't even attempted for balanced games. The reason being was Sakurai never wanted a competitive scene in the first place. So why try to make a game balanced?

[GrayfoxSama]

the game is very balanced. Why are there tiers then? That can't be helped. It happens to every game because of our nature.

[IShotLazer]

You honestly think it's because our nature?

Not really...

Starcraft is insanely absurdly balanced even at extremely high levels of play. Then again they tried balancing the game for YEARS. Starcraft was made with competitiveness in mind, while Brawl was not. Once anyone learns ANYTHING about Brawl it's very apparent that the game is terribly unbalanced. Metaknight and Captain falcon MUST be uneven because it's our fault? I really don't think so... The creators were not omnipotent, or even cared.

[faceurhell]

Marth is ranked 5th or so on the tiers. Lucas is the top low tier, lulz. >_>

[hypertailschao]

Release Grab combo>Wall of Death, not to mention horribly easy to gimp recovery.

Toon Link isn't OP.

[smartdot]

melee yes, brawl no. its meta and snake that are probably the most op in brawl.

[death2umymomslipknot]

thats not over powered thats called SKILL

[Liemohnoes]

The Ken combo was in fact invented by Ken, and not only that, but he also publicized it. Get your facts straight.

[kyrmitz]

C'MON! Stop saying this is "Ken Combo"!, anyone who dedicates his "career" to Marth in both Melee or Brawl would notice the msot effective way to KO in to destroy your opponent with an etremely quick and precise succesion of attack finished with a Smash Attack if possible.

[kyrmitz]

BEFORE ANYONE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS: I know Ken is one of the best! So you don't need to tell me that...

Calling a combo his is just too much, he used it all-right but it's not like he's the creator.

[Neight323]

agreed. someone who never knew who Ken was has done the same combo. its such an obvious one.

[F8isRIPPIN]

ummm the smash community has dubbed it the "Ken Combo", therefore that's its official name.

fucking n00b.

btw brawl = garbage.

[upy0ur5]

Agreed compared to the predecessors :D!

[blueredties]

Masaka! IT CANT BE

[pyromodder]

no whoever is playing as wolf just sucks

[marmiton1]

woow wolf suck

[RandomX3]

That spike worked every time...

Nicely done

[greenfox93]

ken combo

[cubaisdeath]

lol at people thinking this is recent

[byakuya32]

wow, Ken combo exists still in brawl?! Everytime i try to use it my opponents always DI out of it or air dodges the dair... maybe i need to practice it more in brawl.

[Nalti19ssbb]

yah you can still Ken combo in brawl check all of my videos

[upy0ur5]

that's probably because they got rid of stun in brawl from melee and 64, so it's much harder