@ajswjhs Lennox was a bitch and fought Tyson when Tyson openly admitted he was over the hill and needed more fights. Lennox said fight me now or not at all. Thats a bitch move. Lennox never beat Tyson. Lennox beat an out of shape, worn down BODY that had the name Mike Tyson.
@bobbysworld860 He was a bitch for the tyson fight and also for not rematching vitali. He pulleed some bitch moves. Other than that yes he was a good fighter, I will agree with you there.
@vamoalla9 So if you you don't rate the world of Steward or Foreman what are your credentials? lols? What level of boxing or training have you partaken in?
btw Valuev's CREDENTIALS say that he is a former heavyweight boxing champion. Credentials say that JC Chavez Jr. is a Jr. Middleweight champion....So much for credentials....
Morrison had no business being in there with a guy like Lewis. Lennox was highly skilled AND had power. Morrison just had a big hook and was very easy to hit. With a quick, long straight right like Lewis' there was no way Tommy could have won this fight.
@longfinnedeeler I guess you decided to edit my post and respond to ONLY PART OF IT. What did THE REST OF MY POST say?
AVERAGE fighter. ABOVE AVERAGE HEIGHT AND REACH.
So that big Russian bum, Valuev becomes a title holder. That makes him something special? NO. it doesn't.
So if Lewis with his skill set were 6'3 225 lbs., do you honestly thing he would have accomplished as much? No. Do you think he would have beaten David Tua? No. Evander Holyfield? No.
@vamoalla9 And you think every really big man can do as he did as a boxer? Lols...you fight with what was given you...plenty of big men haven't become world champion...and Valuev was exposed by Haye...Lewis stayed at the top for a decade.
@longfinnedeeler First of all, the FACT that Valuev even became champion supports my statement. If Valuev weren't that big, he never would've held a title.
Now that THAT'S out of the way, I gave you specifics, and you respond with generalties. I 6'3 inch Lennox Lewis with the same skillset and punching power that he has as a taller fighter get killed by Holyfield, Tyson, Tua. Struggles even more against Oliver McCall and Haseem Rahman...maybe even LOSING to those guys.
@vamoalla9 And how long was he champion for...based on your statement every body builder and man over 6 ft 8 should be a world champ because they're bigger then everyone else...takes skills to be an Olympian, takes skills to be unbeaten for years, takes skills to knock out the best of your era. You fight with what you are born with. Plenty of bigger men out there then Lewis, size alone doesn't make you the best HW over a decade...not even close...
@longfinnedeeler There you go with generalities again. I'm not talking about EVERY body builder or man over 6ft 8, now AM I?
I am speaking SPECIFICALLY about Lennos Lewis, now aren't I?
I am speaking in specifics, respond HONESTLY in specifics. Your responding to my specfic assertion with general statements pegs you for being evasive just so you don't lose the argument.
@vamoalla9 Lols If boxing were purely about size all of those guys I listed should have and would be dominating now. But none have in the same way as Lewis. Why does Pacman consistently beat bigger men? Lols
@longfinnedeeler So based on your take on boxing can you tell me why Pacman has beaten bigger men...men who in many instances can be 8 inches taller and 20-30 pounds heavier come fight time (after they hydrated)...has be fluked the wins over De La Hoya, Clottey, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley...how based on your rationale re boxing did Pacman beat the much taller and heavier men?
@vamoalla9 So why isn't Julius Long, Jose Luis Gonzales, Michael Grant, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Henry Akinwande, Calvin Jones, Golota, Buster Douglas, Lance Whittaker, Rick Dyer, Alexander Kabanov, Alexander Ustinov, Timo Hoffman, Tye Fields, Razzor Ruddock, John Rankin, Jim Cully, George Mitu, Mike White, Frank Bruno, Valuev etc, etc dominate heavyweight champions like Lewis. And I mean dominate in the sense that they dominated for a decade, beating the best? . A few 7 footers in this lot.
@longfinnedeeler Again with your rhetoric. Let me say it another way. Lennox Lewis's skill set is not impressive. He is just a big guy with AVERAGE skill set. Just like the Klitschko's. They are also average fighters...It's just that they are very tall with long arms. If it weren't for that they would not be expeptional. Let me say it from a reverse standpoint: If Evander Holyfield were as big as Lewis, Holyfield would be considered the best heavyweight ever.
@vamoalla9 You have missed the basic tenor of my point. The list I posted some of those men are considerable taller and heavier then Lewis but never dominated in the same way he did...why? They are bigger...they box professionally...why weren't they the dominate champions of their era? Some of the biggest men to ever box (which includes Lewis and the K-Bros)...what is your rationale behind why that list of behemoths never dominated in nearly the same way as Lewis?
@longfinnedeeler Oh, I understand your point. Maybe the rest of those guys were even less talented than Lewis.
Now try to understand the "basic tenor" of my point.
btw Pacquiao is breaking new ground, going further than any other fighter before him. He is therefore, a bad example.
So answer the question: Would Evander Holyfield, with his skill set, arguably be considered the greatest heavyweight of all time if he were as big as Lennox Lewis?
@vamoalla9 You do realize there are bigger Eastern European and American heavies then the K-Bros? So why do they dominate and not the other behemoths?
No Pacquaio is not a bad example...Floyd Mayweather does the same. Skills. Less talented then Lewis huh? You beat who are around...be it when he became Olympic Champion (beat a number of Cubans in his amateur career) or be it World Champion. Who considers Holyfield the greatest HW of all time? Name one professional commentator who considers Holyfield that best heavy of all time? Are you like 5 years old?
@longfinnedeeler I am NOT saying Holyfield is the greatest of all time. I am SAYING that if he had Lewis's Height and reach he arguably WOULD BE CONSIDERED SO because his physical stature ADDED TO HIS SKILL SET would make him that much more dominant. Lewis, even with his physical stature ISN'T EVEN IN THE CONVERSATION when it comes to the be great heavyweights.
Look at the fight with Klitschko...a fighter of similar stature. THEY BOTH LOOK HORRIBLE. This is your example of a great fighters?
@vamoalla9 The man considered the greatest HW of all time was hardly the biggest HW of his era...not even close. There were men much bigger then Ali. The best HW post Ali, Larry Holmes, was not the biggest HW of his era either. The man considered the greatest boxer of all time, Sugar Ray Robinson, consistently beat men bigger then himself (check his record out the the weight classes he spanned).
@longfinnedeeler You are making my argument for me. Thank you. Now you are arguing for SMALLER heavyweights. Lewis at Ali's height and weight wouldn't even be in the record books.
@vamoalla9 Holyfield fights heavier then Ali, but would never be considered as great as Ali...next to Ali the most dominant HW of the era was big George Foreman...sheer power not very well skilled...there is no one box ticks all the boxes in boxing...but in order to exist at the very top you have to have one or other or both...sheer size is not going to make you a world champ...or otherwise Lewis or the K-Bros would never have being world champions because there are bigger fighters then all 3.
@longfinnedeeler But in Lewis's case, it IS his size that made him as successful as he was. It certainly wasn't his skill set.
If you want to extrapolate from that statement, that all big fighers would be dominating, then you are willfully missing my point, because that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Lewis, not Michael Grant, not Shannon Briggs....The topic is LEWIS...remember?
@vamoalla9 There have being many bigger heavies then Lewis...many...but he was still the dominate heavy of his era. Re the K-Bros...they've busted up the worlds best heavies...from Europe...Africa...Cuba (amateurs)...and between them have the highest KO ratios in the history of boxing...Vitalis KO ratio is nearly 90%.Unheard of in the top tiers of boxing. Who should I listen to re the credentials of the K-Bros. Emanuel Steward or you lols
@longfinnedeeler I'm not saying to look at any credentials. I am saying, if you have an informed eye for boxing, you would not consider Lewis or the K. Bros. to be very good. Theyre' not. Look that the Lewis Klitschko fight. That's boxing? Big wild swings? No defense? I don't consider that great boxing. Go look at the video and tell me that you see example of great boxing skills.
@vamoalla9 Says who? The man who trained all 3 considers them very good boxers i.e. Emanuel Steward. Another chap that knows a thing or two about boxing, George Foreman, considers them very good boxers. Re what constitutes "great boxing skills" is winning year in year out over decades (as both amateurs and professionals) which is what these 3 champions have done.Hmmmm...so who do you listen to? BIg George, Steward or an internet cynic lols
Which of the K-Bros or Lewis take "Big wild swings"?? Very measured calculated fighters...all three. Even in sparring (and I've seen all 3 spar) they aren't prone to "Big wild swings".
@longfinnedeeler big wild swings, bad defense = Lewis vs. Klitschko. I don't rely on what Steward or Foreman says. Both of whom been known to be wrong. Did you hear Steward's prediction as he watched the first round of Ortiz vs. Berto. He sure looked stupid when Ortiz rocked Berto's world. LOLS. So watch the first round of the Lewis vs. Klitscko match. Tell me what your eyes see....don't tell me what others say.
@vamoalla9 One has trained some of the greatest fighters of the last 40 years and the other is considered one of the best HWs of all time and you don't listen to what they have to say about boxing. With around a century of combined experience re boxing and you pay their word no heed. What about Teddy Atlas lols
@longfinnedeeler Dude...you are wearing me out with the way you avoid any and all of my assertions. I guess I win. You dance and evade very well. Is your last name Mayweather cuz you avoid answering hard questions much the way he avoids Manny Pacquiao.
As for Teddy Atlas...Isn't he the guy who keeps predicting Pacquiao to lose, only to see Pacquiao win again? LOLS. G'nite dude.
@vamoalla9 Lols...so you admit by throwing the towel in you don't know as much about boxing as George Foreman or Steward? Funny how some people sit on a PC sniping at world champions..,but have done nothing with their own lives.
@longfinnedeeler I don't know why I spell this out. You seem to be more dense than I originally thought. Let me break it down.
You AVOID. You answer a question with a question. This is not honest discourse.
When I call you on this fact, the you make another evasive maneuver...You question my credentials. Yes, of course I realize that you are STILL avoiding answering any of my questions. Since you continue to avoid, there is no reason ton waste any more time on you.
@vamoalla9 What a verbose way of saying you know nothing about boxing. "Wild swings"...great boxing parlance that. So in your estimation Emanuel Steward knows nothing about boxing because he called a fight wrong huh? And on other boxing commentator in the history of boxing hasn't called a fight wrong? Why is George Foremans estimation of Lewis and the K-Bros wrong?
@vamoalla9 Can you explain to me why you think a more skilful fight between Bowe and Holyfield equates to Lewis's status? He was still the dominate HW of their era (Bowe faded incredibly fast and only had a brief reign a relatively short reign at the top). As opposed to Lewis 10 years of being top dog of the world HW scene.
@longfinnedeeler Again, you expect a direct response to your statements, while you have provided ZERO direct responses to mine. Man up and answer mine first, then I will continue to respond to yours. How many posts have I made challenging you to a direct response? You just bring another subject to the table, instead. C'mon, boy! Go back and read my posts again and give me some direct answers like I have been giving to yours!
@vamoalla9 Lols! Bowe was indeed a skilful HW...however Lennox Lewis still had the goods to beat him in the Olympic finals. That you think Lewis was a HW champion for a decade because of only size is a joke...there were numerious bigger HWs then Lennox during his heyday...just as their is the K-Bros. Have you ever fought professionally? Trained anyone? Being in top tier gyms?
Tell you what...find me a couple of reknowned boxing commentators that don't rate either the K-Bros or Lewis. Not Neville nobody inconsequential nobodies like you..,but serious well regarded and respected commentators...
@vamoalla9 Boxing is about punching...everyone in boxing as predicted the outcome of a fight wrong...who would have thought Buster Douglas beat Tyson, that Iran Barkley beat Tommy Hearns, that Mosely whupped Margarito...
@vamoalla9 So are you saying the HWs I have listed (many from the 1990s) which includes world champions, Olympic gold medalists, European, German, Commonwealth champions all got to where they got to with no skills?
lewis was a dirty fighter constantly holding his oppenants heads while he wud hit them...cheater!!!!
rodeofan36 2 months ago
Lennox beat my two favorite fighters Mike Tyson and Tommy Morrison i got respect for him
ajswjhs 3 months ago
@ajswjhs Lennox was a bitch and fought Tyson when Tyson openly admitted he was over the hill and needed more fights. Lennox said fight me now or not at all. Thats a bitch move. Lennox never beat Tyson. Lennox beat an out of shape, worn down BODY that had the name Mike Tyson.
BOMDOM50 3 months ago
@BOMDOM50 lennox was far from a bitch.. i agree he fought an old tyson but there aint a boxing champion in the history of boxing that is a bitch..
bobbysworld860 2 months ago
@bobbysworld860 He was a bitch for the tyson fight and also for not rematching vitali. He pulleed some bitch moves. Other than that yes he was a good fighter, I will agree with you there.
BOMDOM50 2 months ago
Morrison was no match for Lenox Lewis plus he could not see out of one eye
curtisjones400 3 months ago
what year was this fight???
WillGdaFather 4 months ago
@WillGdaFather 1995
Giova0294 3 months ago
morrison like sucks
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longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
Anyone would have thought Steward doesn't know what he's talking about...or George Foreman hasn't seen a heavy or two in the last 50 years.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
I guess you didn't bother to watch the Klitschko vs Lewis fight. lol....Try comparing that to Bowe vs. Holyfield. LOLS
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 But who dominated the era? Evander? Bowe or Lewis? Lols! That's a gimme. For verification read their records.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
Who reigned supreme longer as HW champion of the world? Bowe? Holyfield? Lewis? Lols...
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 So if you you don't rate the world of Steward or Foreman what are your credentials? lols? What level of boxing or training have you partaken in?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
btw Valuev's CREDENTIALS say that he is a former heavyweight boxing champion. Credentials say that JC Chavez Jr. is a Jr. Middleweight champion....So much for credentials....
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Valuev as exposed by the first skilled fighter he fought. JC Chavez Junior is a bonafide world champions...why? Becasuse he won the title.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler Was Valuev not a bonafide world champ?
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Which two brothers are considered the very best HWs of the last decade? Who was considered the very best of the decade prior? Lols
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
Morrison had no business being in there with a guy like Lewis. Lennox was highly skilled AND had power. Morrison just had a big hook and was very easy to hit. With a quick, long straight right like Lewis' there was no way Tommy could have won this fight.
FSMNoodlyAppendage 6 months ago
Lennox Lewis was my favorite fighter to watch while he was active, and I remember him fondly...but damn was he dirty!
guvnoir23 6 months ago
Lennos Lewis: An average fighter with above average height and reach.
vamoalla9 6 months ago 2
@vamoalla9 Average fighter huh. Olympian, Multiple world champion....average huh.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler I guess you decided to edit my post and respond to ONLY PART OF IT. What did THE REST OF MY POST say?
AVERAGE fighter. ABOVE AVERAGE HEIGHT AND REACH.
So that big Russian bum, Valuev becomes a title holder. That makes him something special? NO. it doesn't.
So if Lewis with his skill set were 6'3 225 lbs., do you honestly thing he would have accomplished as much? No. Do you think he would have beaten David Tua? No. Evander Holyfield? No.
Average fighter.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 And you think every really big man can do as he did as a boxer? Lols...you fight with what was given you...plenty of big men haven't become world champion...and Valuev was exposed by Haye...Lewis stayed at the top for a decade.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler First of all, the FACT that Valuev even became champion supports my statement. If Valuev weren't that big, he never would've held a title.
Now that THAT'S out of the way, I gave you specifics, and you respond with generalties. I 6'3 inch Lennox Lewis with the same skillset and punching power that he has as a taller fighter get killed by Holyfield, Tyson, Tua. Struggles even more against Oliver McCall and Haseem Rahman...maybe even LOSING to those guys.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 And how long was he champion for...based on your statement every body builder and man over 6 ft 8 should be a world champ because they're bigger then everyone else...takes skills to be an Olympian, takes skills to be unbeaten for years, takes skills to knock out the best of your era. You fight with what you are born with. Plenty of bigger men out there then Lewis, size alone doesn't make you the best HW over a decade...not even close...
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler There you go with generalities again. I'm not talking about EVERY body builder or man over 6ft 8, now AM I?
I am speaking SPECIFICALLY about Lennos Lewis, now aren't I?
I am speaking in specifics, respond HONESTLY in specifics. Your responding to my specfic assertion with general statements pegs you for being evasive just so you don't lose the argument.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Lols If boxing were purely about size all of those guys I listed should have and would be dominating now. But none have in the same way as Lewis. Why does Pacman consistently beat bigger men? Lols
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler So based on your take on boxing can you tell me why Pacman has beaten bigger men...men who in many instances can be 8 inches taller and 20-30 pounds heavier come fight time (after they hydrated)...has be fluked the wins over De La Hoya, Clottey, Cotto, Margarito, Mosley...how based on your rationale re boxing did Pacman beat the much taller and heavier men?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 So why isn't Julius Long, Jose Luis Gonzales, Michael Grant, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Henry Akinwande, Calvin Jones, Golota, Buster Douglas, Lance Whittaker, Rick Dyer, Alexander Kabanov, Alexander Ustinov, Timo Hoffman, Tye Fields, Razzor Ruddock, John Rankin, Jim Cully, George Mitu, Mike White, Frank Bruno, Valuev etc, etc dominate heavyweight champions like Lewis. And I mean dominate in the sense that they dominated for a decade, beating the best? . A few 7 footers in this lot.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler Again with your rhetoric. Let me say it another way. Lennox Lewis's skill set is not impressive. He is just a big guy with AVERAGE skill set. Just like the Klitschko's. They are also average fighters...It's just that they are very tall with long arms. If it weren't for that they would not be expeptional. Let me say it from a reverse standpoint: If Evander Holyfield were as big as Lewis, Holyfield would be considered the best heavyweight ever.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 You have missed the basic tenor of my point. The list I posted some of those men are considerable taller and heavier then Lewis but never dominated in the same way he did...why? They are bigger...they box professionally...why weren't they the dominate champions of their era? Some of the biggest men to ever box (which includes Lewis and the K-Bros)...what is your rationale behind why that list of behemoths never dominated in nearly the same way as Lewis?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler Oh, I understand your point. Maybe the rest of those guys were even less talented than Lewis.
Now try to understand the "basic tenor" of my point.
btw Pacquiao is breaking new ground, going further than any other fighter before him. He is therefore, a bad example.
So answer the question: Would Evander Holyfield, with his skill set, arguably be considered the greatest heavyweight of all time if he were as big as Lennox Lewis?
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 You do realize there are bigger Eastern European and American heavies then the K-Bros? So why do they dominate and not the other behemoths?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
No Pacquaio is not a bad example...Floyd Mayweather does the same. Skills. Less talented then Lewis huh? You beat who are around...be it when he became Olympic Champion (beat a number of Cubans in his amateur career) or be it World Champion. Who considers Holyfield the greatest HW of all time? Name one professional commentator who considers Holyfield that best heavy of all time? Are you like 5 years old?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler I am NOT saying Holyfield is the greatest of all time. I am SAYING that if he had Lewis's Height and reach he arguably WOULD BE CONSIDERED SO because his physical stature ADDED TO HIS SKILL SET would make him that much more dominant. Lewis, even with his physical stature ISN'T EVEN IN THE CONVERSATION when it comes to the be great heavyweights.
Look at the fight with Klitschko...a fighter of similar stature. THEY BOTH LOOK HORRIBLE. This is your example of a great fighters?
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 The man considered the greatest HW of all time was hardly the biggest HW of his era...not even close. There were men much bigger then Ali. The best HW post Ali, Larry Holmes, was not the biggest HW of his era either. The man considered the greatest boxer of all time, Sugar Ray Robinson, consistently beat men bigger then himself (check his record out the the weight classes he spanned).
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler You are making my argument for me. Thank you. Now you are arguing for SMALLER heavyweights. Lewis at Ali's height and weight wouldn't even be in the record books.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Holyfield fights heavier then Ali, but would never be considered as great as Ali...next to Ali the most dominant HW of the era was big George Foreman...sheer power not very well skilled...there is no one box ticks all the boxes in boxing...but in order to exist at the very top you have to have one or other or both...sheer size is not going to make you a world champ...or otherwise Lewis or the K-Bros would never have being world champions because there are bigger fighters then all 3.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler But in Lewis's case, it IS his size that made him as successful as he was. It certainly wasn't his skill set.
If you want to extrapolate from that statement, that all big fighers would be dominating, then you are willfully missing my point, because that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Lewis, not Michael Grant, not Shannon Briggs....The topic is LEWIS...remember?
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 There have being many bigger heavies then Lewis...many...but he was still the dominate heavy of his era. Re the K-Bros...they've busted up the worlds best heavies...from Europe...Africa...Cuba (amateurs)...and between them have the highest KO ratios in the history of boxing...Vitalis KO ratio is nearly 90%.Unheard of in the top tiers of boxing. Who should I listen to re the credentials of the K-Bros. Emanuel Steward or you lols
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler I'm not saying to look at any credentials. I am saying, if you have an informed eye for boxing, you would not consider Lewis or the K. Bros. to be very good. Theyre' not. Look that the Lewis Klitschko fight. That's boxing? Big wild swings? No defense? I don't consider that great boxing. Go look at the video and tell me that you see example of great boxing skills.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Says who? The man who trained all 3 considers them very good boxers i.e. Emanuel Steward. Another chap that knows a thing or two about boxing, George Foreman, considers them very good boxers. Re what constitutes "great boxing skills" is winning year in year out over decades (as both amateurs and professionals) which is what these 3 champions have done.Hmmmm...so who do you listen to? BIg George, Steward or an internet cynic lols
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
Which of the K-Bros or Lewis take "Big wild swings"?? Very measured calculated fighters...all three. Even in sparring (and I've seen all 3 spar) they aren't prone to "Big wild swings".
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler big wild swings, bad defense = Lewis vs. Klitschko. I don't rely on what Steward or Foreman says. Both of whom been known to be wrong. Did you hear Steward's prediction as he watched the first round of Ortiz vs. Berto. He sure looked stupid when Ortiz rocked Berto's world. LOLS. So watch the first round of the Lewis vs. Klitscko match. Tell me what your eyes see....don't tell me what others say.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 One has trained some of the greatest fighters of the last 40 years and the other is considered one of the best HWs of all time and you don't listen to what they have to say about boxing. With around a century of combined experience re boxing and you pay their word no heed. What about Teddy Atlas lols
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler Dude...you are wearing me out with the way you avoid any and all of my assertions. I guess I win. You dance and evade very well. Is your last name Mayweather cuz you avoid answering hard questions much the way he avoids Manny Pacquiao.
As for Teddy Atlas...Isn't he the guy who keeps predicting Pacquiao to lose, only to see Pacquiao win again? LOLS. G'nite dude.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Lols...so you admit by throwing the towel in you don't know as much about boxing as George Foreman or Steward? Funny how some people sit on a PC sniping at world champions..,but have done nothing with their own lives.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler I don't know why I spell this out. You seem to be more dense than I originally thought. Let me break it down.
You AVOID. You answer a question with a question. This is not honest discourse.
When I call you on this fact, the you make another evasive maneuver...You question my credentials. Yes, of course I realize that you are STILL avoiding answering any of my questions. Since you continue to avoid, there is no reason ton waste any more time on you.
Nice try though.
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 What a verbose way of saying you know nothing about boxing. "Wild swings"...great boxing parlance that. So in your estimation Emanuel Steward knows nothing about boxing because he called a fight wrong huh? And on other boxing commentator in the history of boxing hasn't called a fight wrong? Why is George Foremans estimation of Lewis and the K-Bros wrong?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Can you explain to me why you think a more skilful fight between Bowe and Holyfield equates to Lewis's status? He was still the dominate HW of their era (Bowe faded incredibly fast and only had a brief reign a relatively short reign at the top). As opposed to Lewis 10 years of being top dog of the world HW scene.
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler Again, you expect a direct response to your statements, while you have provided ZERO direct responses to mine. Man up and answer mine first, then I will continue to respond to yours. How many posts have I made challenging you to a direct response? You just bring another subject to the table, instead. C'mon, boy! Go back and read my posts again and give me some direct answers like I have been giving to yours!
vamoalla9 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Lols! Bowe was indeed a skilful HW...however Lennox Lewis still had the goods to beat him in the Olympic finals. That you think Lewis was a HW champion for a decade because of only size is a joke...there were numerious bigger HWs then Lennox during his heyday...just as their is the K-Bros. Have you ever fought professionally? Trained anyone? Being in top tier gyms?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
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longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
Which is I guess why you write about chaps...because you've got no credentials to write about of your own lols
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
Tell you what...find me a couple of reknowned boxing commentators that don't rate either the K-Bros or Lewis. Not Neville nobody inconsequential nobodies like you..,but serious well regarded and respected commentators...
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 Boxing is about punching...everyone in boxing as predicted the outcome of a fight wrong...who would have thought Buster Douglas beat Tyson, that Iran Barkley beat Tommy Hearns, that Mosely whupped Margarito...
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@vamoalla9 So are you saying the HWs I have listed (many from the 1990s) which includes world champions, Olympic gold medalists, European, German, Commonwealth champions all got to where they got to with no skills?
longfinnedeeler 5 months ago
@longfinnedeeler Nope. I'm not saying anything about those guys. YOU are. I was talking about Lennox Lewis, remember?
vamoalla9 5 months ago
boooooooooo!!!!!! the duke is still the best!
mar37able 8 months ago
Lennox Lewis is great! Forever champion!
Onuchak 2 years ago 2