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  • Truth is that lions and tigers are same sized animals, reaching maximal weight in the wild 220 kg! No more than that!

  • @nomadlion1985 Not true

  • @herediacle

    Not true!

  • the largest wild lion weighed 790 lbs almost 800 lbs!

  • @322417411 Well theres been bigger record breakers biggest siberian tiger was around 1100 pounds accordding to wikipidia. The biggest Lions on text was a 1010 pound lion but the biggest with video proof was 2 spaid 950 pound brothers in a sanctuary, just type in 900 pound lion in youtube to see them. They are fucking huge but id say a 600 pound fit prime male lion, would beat those 2 900 pound lion Goliath brothers being they can move faster an be more agile size isint the only factor.

  • tiger fans still lied there was never a siberian tiger that reached 900 i believe they could if you feed them alot it woud grow tons of fat, but still they lied thats the point

  • the logic was, if the largest bengal is 857 tigerfans say that they "reached" 900 this is not a matter of muscle its a matter of "fat" and if siberian tigers actually weigh 900 then it would be not much active

  • If the largest bengal was 857 (which is pretty close to 900) then the MUCH larger siberian tiger must be able to weigh 900. The only reason they have not found one is because it would be hard for people to go into Siberia and catch a tiger.... bear grylls, a wildlife survival expert was dumped in siberia and he had trouble staying alive, imagine how hard it would be to find an EXTREMELY scarce species, then kill or capture it.

  • I've seen lions & tigers in zoo's at similar sizes but I have also seen one white siberian tiger a lot bigger,paws about a foot or more in diameter and stood about 4ft at the shoulder ,it was hugh I didn't believe they could get that big,this thing picked up nearly a full tree trunk which was about 3ft wide & 15ft long at one end with one paw.

  • 857 lbs is quite close to 900. And if the one weighing 857 was a bengal, then I'd say for a Siberian to weigh even more is very logical, since they are bigger.

  • lion tiger who fucking cares. They are both beautiful. you must be american. who's stronger. who's bigger. what the fuck dude. find a hobby or jerk off more. lol

  • @T1gersandL1ons Sorry, but I think, that You are too optimistic when it comes to the future of a siberian tiger. Anyway, couple of months ago, I have seen captive siberian tiger (adult male) and his owner told me, that he is 230-240 Kg - would You call it a monster? And I don´t agree with your statement, that siberian is BY FAR largest of all cats. Healthy siberian tigers would be probalby larger than bengals, but not by far.

  • @T1gersandL1ons I think that territory in USA or Canada would be more suitable. Anyway I agree with You, its really sad, that due to poaching etc. the siberian tiger is not the biggest feline anymore (bengal tigers are probably bigger now).

  • @T1gersandL1ons 600-660 lbs probably in the past, but modern siberian tigers are about 530 lbs on average (due to inbreeding and lack of prey). The biggest can grow up to 750 lbs....

  • @T1gersandL1ons

    600-660? Probably in the past. But modern siberian tigers are about 530 lbs (due to inbreeding and lack of prey). The biggest can grow up to 750 lbs.

  • The largest wild cat was a Bengal Tiger called a 'Bachelor of Powalgargh'. Although he was never weighed, Jim Corbett (the famous hunter who killed him) said that he was bigger than a Shetland Pony. According to the surveys, the average weight for a Northern Bengal Tiger is 550lbs, which makes it the largest cats on earth. Just google his name and you will see his pictures!!!

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  • @T1gersandL1ons True. But most modern studies indicate that they weigh more close to 400 lbs than to 500.

  • haha whats with this tiger fan stuff, can't ya just like cats and enjoy each of them for there different abilities.

    P.S LIONS ARE NOT THE KING OF THE JUNGLE.

  • maybe if they are fat.... really fat.....

  • im a tiger fan and know for a fact they cant weigh that much. who told you they weigh that much? who? but not all tiger fans are bias just saying.

  • @malikc6 Well many tigerfans think they weigh up to 900 lbs. I never said all tigerfans are biased idiots, but most of them.

  • @Schamah Sorry, but Your attitude seems a bit immature to me. But anyway, if You are into that lion vs. tiger stuff and if You are a lion fan, then You have to accept the fact, that tigers are somewhat bigger than lions. And yes, in a fight the tiger has better chance to win (better fighting technique, heavier, pound by pound stronger, more agile, smarter...). But the difference is not big, lion is still very strong opponent and you could find a lot of cases of lion defeating the tiger.

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  • everyone should realize the Sib. Tiger's statistics is realtivley equal and similar to the African lion. So if want answers, do little math, and more comparison, rather than all of this ametuer video crap.

  • probably because the tiger was dead it weighed less than 900 lbs, (no soul).

  • Well we are talking wild cats but in captivity they reach 900Lbs even 1000lb. The heaviest ever bengal tiger (857) was a abnormally large cat. Siberians are known to be larger, the only problem is finding one isolsted, abnormally large and gorged enough. When these cats have enough large prey ie gaur then i think they can reach 900lb wherever this tiger paradise exists. As every fisherman knows, the monsters are the ones that get away

  • @GodDamnCanadians tiger don't hunt gaur bitch , they hunt pigs and deers 80%

    20 % others small animals .

    and tigers are smaller 170 kg - 220 kg ,

    accept the truth asshole

  • @bigcatsliontiger Tigers do hunt gaur, on occasion, I've saw the video, saw them on National Geographic, and have heard zookeepers and tiger experts tell me this, personally, to my face. I would say they hunt them as much as any similar sized predator hunts similar sized prey. And hunting a young cow or calf is still hunting gaur. If you use that blanket statement, then you are wrong. If you say, "tigers rarely hunt and kill adult male gaurs", yes, that's a bit more accurate.

  • @huntingwolf20 hey has many videos (tiger hunting ) most of them isn't when tiger kill gaur but is when tiger kill deer ok accept it , tiger don't hunt gaur , perhaps small gaurs sometimes but all big cats experts say tiger hunt 70-80% pigs and deers .

  • @GodDamnCanadians Also want to chuck in the Siberian project was a failure and the 197kg specimen they based an average on was a small female. The Siberian project failed to find any isolated males due to them being so timid of humans and the barren icy planes being hard to explore. Remember Males are solitary and finding them in Russia would be next to impossible.

  • How do you know man? What did you do this video for...? I don't get it. That newspaper that you show with the record...857 lb was maby 100 years ago with other kinds of tigers not siberian tigers.

  • @Schamah do you know how tigers hunt? when its small prey they hunt, that cant hurt them they go for the more brawler style, hit and eat.

    when they are hunting larger prey, they stalk the prey much longer and analyse how the prey behaves,thus, a tiger would never directly attack a bear, that much to risky.

    they stalk the bear, and if an oppertunity opens, they attack. if the attack goes wrong, they back off, if it succeeds they have alot of food.

    the more danger, the more they plan theire attack

  • @slimjim618 face the facts tigers waieghing 850 pounds is incredibly out of shape and would probably have a hard time throwing its wiegh around.Siberians and Bengals dont even weigh as much as they use to.There is a slight difference if you place a shaved male Lion next to a bengal/siberian.

  • The tiger in that photo with the man and woman behind is UNDER 500 lbs and no more than 8.5 ft long !

    857 lbs and 11ft 1 in ??? NOT A CHANCE.

  • @nordhorny Amen to that.

  • stupid huh ??? i own a Siberian tiger and i take it for walks regularly and when i weighed him last he weighed 953pounds !!!!!!! now who's STUPID HUH ???!!!

  • @TORRES91982 Hahhahahahahahahahahaha , hahahahaha

  • @TORRES91982 your tiger is not wild stupid lol plus lol proove it

  • tigers barely get over 600 pounds!

  • i don't believe on home made video

  • @nitinwwe1001 go do your home work than ?

  • @jeremismit

    what do want to say

    

  • Hmmm, Schamah, first, I would like to thank you, your videos are very proffessionaly made, they are well laid out, unlike most Lion vs Tiger vids.

    But sorry, although the 900 pounds is tiger fan bullshit, It is still almost right, that 845lb, 11ft 1 inch Tiger would certianly kill any Lion, trust me, I have seen Siberian tigers in the wild, they are huge, I have no problem believing that the majority of male Siberial/amur tigers are 550-750 lbs, with the occasional 750+

    Thanks 4 the vid, A++

  • @xUNKNOWNSH4DOWx Thanks for being an objective poster, but , the tiger hwich weighed 857 lbs was a bengal tiger and not a siberian. Even then , the tiger was gorged and weighed probably about 711 pounds. I would also bet my money on the tiger if they weighed 800 pounds +, but they dont. In fact , most studies indicate that btoth animals weigh the same on average . 418 pounds.

    I could show them to you.

  • @Schamah

    Hi again Schamah,

    Thanks for the pollite and proffessional reply, I am shocked that the 850 pound tiger was bengal, that is simply amazing, as you said, they usually weigh around 400 or slightly over, I'd love to see the average weight comparison artile, good reading :)

    I agree with you that any Bengal tiger would be killed by an African Lion, but I still have trouble believing that any Lion could even challenge a Siberian, purely becuse of the size difference, 900lbs or not. Tah, J

  • @Schamah

    Hi again Schamah,

    Thanks for the pollite and proffessional reply, I am shocked that the 850 pound tiger was bengal, that is simply amazing, as you said, they usually weigh around 400 or slightly over, I'd love to see the average weight comparison artile, good reading :)

    I agree with you that any Bengal tiger would be killed by an African Lion, but I still have trouble believing that any Lion could even challenge a Siberian, purely becuse of the size difference, 900lbs or not. Tah, J

  • @Schamah Thanks, I would love to see the studies, good reading :)

  • you know what would be the bomb, Barbary Lion mixed with Siberian tiger!!!

  • Even if a siberian tiger was 900 lbs, that only is because of his invirement it lives in.

    It's a huge mass of fat to survive the cold and harsh winters..

    In other words, a siberian tiger is nothing more but a fat bengal tiger :p

  • Tigerfans state that wild tigers reached the 900 lb mark. That`s wrong and bullshit. In fact , they havent even reached 800 lbs.

  • @Schamah not tigers but i guess the one they called LIGERS were about 900 pounds cross breed of male lion and  a female tiger.. you can search it for your self...

  • ...yes , ligers weigh up to 900 lbs , but tigerfans said that tigers also do. That`s total bullshit.

  • one can never say it will never be one though

  • american lion would beat any tiger or lion if it still existed

  • I agree.

  • Here are weight averages of tigers and lions sub spiecies

    African lion- 398- 435 lbs

    Bengal tiger- 420-441 lbs

    Siberian- 487-510 lbs

    Barbary lion- 480-500 ( extinct in WILD)

    American lion- ( it pretty much was like a siberian tiger, but for lions) they averaged 725 pounds

    *Fact* All other 7 sub-speices of tiger not listed here ( 2 are extinct) are smaller than the african lion ( i belive one of them get as small as 200 pounds)

    The size difference r no significan enough to determine fite

  • @thundag0d

    dude, your weights is wrong.. :p

  • 857 maximum and to think they said that wild siberian tiger usually has this weight 900 pounds.Its almost a car :))).LOL.

    They lie, lions are better.

  • 875 pounds and even then , the tiger was gorged and weighed 700-715 pounds , like the heaviest wild lion.

  • @Schamah. Frankly 900 pounds is to big even for a big cat. They must admit the truth it s imposible for a big cat to have this weight.LOL 900 pounds Jesus. Still lions are the winners of this debate .If they really wanted a fight they should have given a fair one.But not lies and deceit.

  • I agree with you 100%

  • only a liger could weigh that much

  • yeah not to mention that tigers live in a higher latitude. Higher latitudes make them bigger. If lions lived as high in latitude the maximum for them would be like over half a ton.

  • put a lion against a tiger id put my house on the lion

  • the tiger fans sure do put there tiger over.. huh?

    lions our number 1.. its a FACT

  • Even if they weighed 900 pounds most of their weight is made up of fat that is supposed to protect them against the harsh Russian winter. The Bengal will win 54/100 fights against the Siberian, even though Siberians is slightly longer and very slightly taller. Bengals are slim and quick. They are much more athletic as they live in rainforests and even hunt small monkeys while Siberians live in places that few trees can grow and few trees do grow so they climb very little.

  • I can see why, a wild tiger is fighting fit, he burns off more calories searching for food, in a zoo they just get fed regularly.

    I can believe a Bengal weighing that much, there is one in Leeds museum thats bigger than any modern Bengal I've ever seen and that was shot 100 years ago,

  • not really , all modern studies indicate that tigers sleep aboput 19-20 hours a day , they don´t walk 20 miles a day and also don`t hunt that much, like some biased people here say . By the way the tiger which I mentioned in the video was gorged , and weighed probably about 700 pounds.

  • absolutely

  • Obviously It's you who's the DUMBASS,

    note the correct spelling.

  • Lion vs jag was never even a debate.

    Just some delusional jaguar fans fantasy.

  • Actually schamah, wild siberian tigers do get up to 900lbs, but it is uncommon. If you disagree with thats fine, I know you are still caught up in the debate. But the truth is that they do. Btw, that report of the tiger that was 800lbs was from like 1910-1930, the largest found now was about 983lbs.

    BTW, Why are you still in the debate, don`t continue to act like these little kids in the comments.

  • Actually , the tiger whch weighed 957 is still in the guinenes book of records. And you are telling me that there was a wild tiger which almost weighed 1000 lbs? Even the largest CAPTIVE tiger didn`t reach that weight. (According to peter jackson 932 pounds).

    yeah I know , but some tigerfans just make me sick. I hate it when they spread lies.

  • Yeah, the largest wild tigr was almost 1000lbs, And actually, captive siberians can reach 1050lbs. BTW, did you know i work at the Fort Worth zoo?

    Now you know how i feel about lying lion fans. I just ignore their ignerence.

  • that`s strange. guinnes book of records and peter jackson say other things. Well I have to look it up then.

  • we have 5 tigers in my zoo and they weigh 900, but they are bengal.

  • that`s normal for captive animals. ive also seen many lions and tigers in captivity which weighed more than 900 pounds. they are just fat.

  • Actually, my babies aren`t fat, they are in great shape. (btw, if you are wondering why i call them my babies, I get to train them) I mainly just say that about the cubs, but they are getting big now.

  • sure they are in a great shape , but they appear to be fat. check out big cat rescues videos.

  • When I say in great shape, I mean they are not fat, maybe our white male, but he is just chuby, the tigress is curently 905lbs, she is kinda skiny, maybe from feeding the cubs, but i doubt it.

  • hmm sounds cool , but big cat rescues lions and tigers are really fat-

  • Well, a lot of different foods can do different things, we feed our lions and tigers chicken and horse meat, but we dont give them a lot of the fat. I have watched some of their videos and they give the meat with the fat.

  • ...cool.

  • I know. Btw, if you want to see a pic of our tigress, go to my SaveTheTigers001 account and look at the bg, it has her with one of her three cubs.

  • ...saw that pic already.

  • Yeah, I love that pic of her, it is cute.

  • 905lb tigress is skinny?! even males rarely get to that size, female Bengals weigh around 350lbs in healthy condition.

  • It is a captive Bengal tigress, and I didn`t mean to say the female was skinny, I meant to say that the male was, my bad for not making that clear.

  • Nobody believes your bullshit, so just stop with the "look at me i have a zoo im an attention whore". Stop overrating tigers.

  • Kid, I dont even know who you are, so fuck off... I don`t own a zoo, i work at it okay... and im not over rating tigers, i know what im talking about. Now fuck off...

  • No shit you don't know me. It's the internet incase you didn't notice,

    And nope, you don't convince anybody. You don't work at a zoo and tigers are not immortal.

  • I never said they were immortal... Look, I share this account with my younger brother, and I dont want him to see your stupid bullshit, so fuck off.

  • Everyone shut up now. No argues on my videos.

  • Sorry man.

  • no problem mate , it´s just that i hate argues on my videos.

  • Yeah, I know what you mean man, I have people bitching on my other account for the china tiger farm video, they keep saying stuff like ''Oh, this is in America but with cows, why don`t you make a video on that?'' I wonder how long it will take for them to realize the channel is called "SaveTheTigers001" for a reason...

  • female bengals average 220-300 average

  • Not true. The largest wild siberian tiger was 847 pounds. That was many,many years ago when the tiger population was

    much healthier. Captive tigers don't count.

    Human beings can weigh over 1000 pounds. So 13 feet long and 900 pounds

    is a pipedream.

  • humans can get hat big because we have grocery stores and money, not an option for the tiger obviously

  • Only in captivity my good man.

  • there are lions that weigh up to 900 pounds and there is a video for that :P

  • yeah but these lions were captive lions.

  • tiger fans think the tiger is the largest predictor in the world

  • Good account, Schamah.

  • Some of the same people have been claiming jaguars of 400+ pounds,

    male African lions average weight of 300

    pounds; and Tigers bite force 2x that of

    a lion. All quite a bit delusional.

  • And who do you think that is? That's Tigersandme, AKA TigerownLion, the stupid, dellusional fool who lacks even a shred of common sense. The 400+ pound male jaguars might just be the heaviest jaguars on record, yet the idiot Tigersandme keeps using that as an excuse that a jaguar can defeat a male lion. Lmao, witnessing a 400+ pound jaguar is like seeing flying pigs. I sware, what a pathetic dirtbag that moron is. Plus, not only that, but even a starving male lion will rip a jaguar to pieces.

  • Its been stated in recent sources that the siberian tigers weight has often been exaggerated. And scientist now confirm that the Norther Bengal Tiger is now the bigger.

    BTW I've heard stupid tiger fans actually stating that some tigers weighed to 1200 pounds! LOL! Tiger fans are delusional.

  • The siberian tiger is the biggest of all tigers and the biggest cat that lives today. But statements like "900 pounds tigers" are totally erroneous.

  • @lbj23clutch about the northern bengal tiger you read on wikipedia right, thats wrong, the study was based on long captive siberian tigers, that usually exibit gene deformeties, smaller, less intelligent, maturing slower ..., while yes the northern bengal tigers are quiet larger than their southern cousins, as for the bite force meaby not 2x but certanly alot more, tiger skull in shorter rounder more compact, and tiger has bigger neck muscles, and as for weight 900 and 1200,

  • tiger FANS ARE STUPID .......THEY THINK SIBERIAN TIGERS WEIGH AS MUCH AS A ELEPHANT...........STUPID ASSHOLES............AN ASAIN LION WILL DESTROY ANY SIBERIAN TIGER

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