Scriabin - Prometheus, the Poem of Fire - Part 3

[elisabeth717]

is it possible to be normal again after playing this??

[MrRrrrvvvv]

In my opinion this is the greatest ending of a piece of all time. Scriabin understood that endings like this should not go on for minutes and minutes on end (like Mahler) because then they lose their effectiveness. Scriabin keeps it (relatively) simple and therefore incredibly effective. Most of all, the final chord is so effective because - after all the unusual harmony - it's the only major chord in the piece. The touch of a genius.

[darthjoey13]

I am really digging this. This and Debussy.

[noirvalentin]

Half the seats are empty. Really depressing when you hear that kind of quality music.

[oscarmike1985]

stunning

[lecheparavaka]

i think this piece should be named "poem of ectasy" too!

i cant understand why everyone doesn't listen to this music..

[RpianoV]

Listened to Prometheus a couple of times since I first heard it yesterday. I love his solo piano music but this is great too. It's like a science fiction symphony. And the ending, wow, what can I say... already one of my favorite moments in all music.

[Sylvain894]

Was it Scriabin before Debussy and Ravel that created those magnificient musics; there were I.Strawinsky too and his ''Fire bird''; it seems to have been in the early 20th century that sad and wild music appears and blowed everyone's ears ! And maybe earlier, people like G.Malher and Holst and Tchaikovsky ! Was Schizophrenia diseases, a Russian discovery, alike Parkinson and Alzheimer by ....... .....Germans ??

[Sylvain894]

Was it Scriabin before Debussy and Ravel that created those magnificient musics; there were I.Strawinsky too and his ''Fire bird''; it seems to have been in the early 20th century that sad and wild music appears and blowed everyone's ears ! And maybe before, people like G.Malher and Holst !

[houseman179]

Half of the seats are empty for such a massive performance 0.o

[evilmick66]

Absolute genius! I feel as if each note is a batallion in an army that's about swarm over me. I love it! Such an epic wall of sound!

[Bagas]

Always send shivers. Genius. I will you soon great master.

[Beerlejuice]

Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant music! I had never heard of Scriabin until today, but this is breathtaking music. I'm working on a horror novel and this fits perfectly with what I'm doing. It's so terrifying especially with the choir singing, it's beautiful! I will definitely have to check out the rest of his music. Brilliant music, one of the most haunting symphonies I've ever heard, it's beautiful!

[richclayderman]

it kinda sounds like La mer in some parts

[JT250]

@richclayderman

Yes. I was thinking the same thing. In fact, it's a google search** that led me to this movie.

(** scriabin "poem of fire" "la mer" - Google search : the first result!)

[jebsievers]

Oh that last note. Ohhhhh boy. Give me a whole symphony with that power. Zero nuance. Just full drive the whole time. Any suggestions?

[cameronmichaelkeys]

that violin at 4:50 is totally Bartok!

[lecheparavaka]

@cameronmichaelkeys i think its different, Bartok was totally Scriabin... i mean, he was who totally change music...

[jonrellim]

does somebody recognise the concertmaster?

[Varese52]

"Ad lib" is an indication that the piece can be done with or without a chorus. So, the choice is at the liberty of the people who do the piece.

[sarahze]

here's a question i'm hoping someone will know without my having to search at all for it - chorus in the score was written as "ad lib" right? so was it up to the conductor to decide if they would resolve with rest of orchestra on the F# M chord, or did the chorus have the liberty to do otherwise?

[jre58591]

In the score, I do not see an "ad lib" indication for the choir. Also, all of their notes are written in. They are just reading the notes that they have.

[CreepInDMoll]

@sarahze

the ad lib is supposed to indicate that they are not necessary, the piece can be performed without them, or with them.

it does not mean they improvise.

[Will170392]

@sarahze The "ad lib" marking is just to show that the piece can still be performed if there is no chorus available. It basically shows that having a chorus for this piece is like a kind of bonus add-on. If there's a chorus available, then they would certainly always be singing at the end.

[jonrellim]

eek, that woman's violin at 1:15 is bright orange!! great piece though, the final F# chord has such a big climax. I only think the fast notes where the piano goes up are a little too fast, for instance at 1:13.

[peperkamp1989]

But you are not a pro piano player so you keep your mouth shut aye?

[jonrellim]

not being a pro piano player doesnt mean i dont know how it can be played better. its the same with critics. you dont just ignore their comments by saying they cant do it better. having the knowlegde is different from having the ability. you can have the knowledge without having the ability.

[maestropaul26]

this is probably my most favorite ending to a piece

[coasterman16]

I agree. Trés dramatic.

[fisherroastedpeanut]

the final climax is the mystic chord,right?

[maestropaul26]

no its just F# Major; that was Scriabin's favorite chord

[antonvonwebern]

it's the only major chord in the poem.. eheheh!

tho whole piece is made with mystic chords and scales.

it was so incredible for me to realize that the final chord was major! ..it is so ....evil!! :D

skrjabin was a genius!

[Neongrapes]

What's wrong with the audience. No standing ovation?

If I was there I'd be head banging! Some people just don't get it

[ehswan]

As I understand Prometheus, He gave us fire for which he has been eternally tortured. Did Scriabin Get that our use of fire would lead to thermonuclear warfare? Or light? I think light. Though it's a close call.

[jorgepoveda]

Scriabin es mas conocido por sus breves sonatas:misteriosas y evocadoras de "algo mas allá de la música".Su poema " Del Extasis" lleva esos planteos mas lejos aun ,y en la batuta de Kitayenko este "Poema del Fuego" menos conocido,nos adentra en los entresijos del misticismo y la esperanza evocadas por notas arremolinadas una tras otra. Es como un pintor desordenado abriendo pasajes en el tiempo:en un tiempo al que no podemos negar,pues insiste en hacerse presente y esquivo,justo como el fuego.

[jre58591]

muy bien dicho. estoy completamente de acuerdo.

[spv88]

Muy bueno

[lecheparavaka]

@jorgepoveda justo como el fuego...

[scriabinwasmydad]

This music is amazing! Its complexity I hear is beyond most symphonic compositions and its symbolism is endless.. I really like the interpretation here. Seems very dreamy and also very playful at times. Scriabin was indeed able to show all types of ideas in his music.

[ultrapasteur]

Grate!

[Bulacanos]

GLORIOUS!

[JediMasterRadek]

Very alive.