Of course Daniel's claims were declared false by the Philippine Department of Science and Technology why? Conspiracy there are billions and billions of dollars invested in fuel and a technology like that would come along what would happen to those invested money.
actually in reality there are so many technology already developed to make things much better but because of money that has invested and the "system" would be affected it has been denied and rejected.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO REPLICATE THIS EFFECT, SIMPLY CHARGE CELL (LIKE CAPACITOR) THEN DISCHARGE OR SHORT BOTH ELECTRODES, DO IT IN UP TO 250KHz AND YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE MAKING MORE THAN WITH REGULAR ELECTROLYSIS!
how do u explain those new hydrogen powered car that is powered by compressed hydrogen in a tank, not hydrogen from fuel cell generator split from water on demand..think why they want it on a compress tank? cuz they want stations.. why station? so ppl will stop by & refuel..& make lots & lots of MONEY :D
Katsumo is very intelligent while a1mint is an idiot (research proven)! You need to watch the lectures by Stan Meyer. Ask yourself why people like Stan Meyer get assassinated while frauds like Al Einstein end up with Nobel prizes?
I would love to speak to someone face to face who is familiar with this hydrogen stuff. I know hydrogen is combustible, and i know we can get it from electrolysis. I'm just curious how you would use it strictly in a car without changing everything around. also how do you store the hydrogen you've created? just curious
for those of you who are arguing about the legitimacy of water being able to be a power source check out stanley meyer and his water powered car. I'm fairly sure that his vehicles that use only water prove (proved i should say since he's dead) that water is capable of being used as a source of energy. I may not have a degree in chemistry but I have enough sense to see that stanley meyer's inventions are fake. He hasn't been debunked yet either.
@KKrisist We all know who Stanley Meyer was and we all know how what he claimed was complete bull. All he did was have an electrolysis unit to provide the gas stream for the engine, but water was never the energy source - only the electricity to run the electrolysis unit. The concept was bogus, his patents don't actually describe anything revolutionary, and neither he nor anyone else has EVER provided a working model of a water-powered anything for scrutiny.
@a1mint a 2006 v8 fuel injected ford falcon with homemade hydrogen setup running very well !! its old technology , the fuel injected model cars have a fuel injector computer that tunes itself to run better on the hydrogen. the hydrogen setup is stupidly easy to make
@smiles1969able Hydrogen is not water. Hydrogen can be made from water, but you have to spend more energy to split that water, than the amount of energy that you get back through burning the hydrogen.
Water is not a source of energy. Hydrogen is not a source of energy either, because hydrogen does not naturally occur on earth, you have to make it. Therefore, hydrogen is a carrier of energy, not a source.
@a1mint yes 12volts will split that water up nicely ! who cares iv seen it working its cheap to setup and make and well its just bubbling water to run your car! great stuff !!
@smiles1969able The amount of energy in electricity is not just Voltage, and it is not just Amperage, but Voltage multiplied by Amperage. That's expressed in Watts.
You need MORE electric energy than the energy that burning the produced hydrogen gives back.
You have a LONG way to go before you'll get all this.
@a1mint you have been scammed to thinking its not a fuel , not only does hydrogen work hydrogen is clean it can be recycled from your car exhaust then filtered back into your hydrogen unit. email david at geet.nl
@smiles1969able You are scamming people into making them think that hydrogen can be obtained from water freely and effortlessly, and that therefore water is a source of energy.
In reality, you have to spend energy to break hydrogen from the water molecule.
The laws of nature states that you can not create or destroy energy, you can only convert it, and every time you do, you incur losses in the form of heat.
@a1mint what a egg you are turning into! for around 150 bucks you can make one yourself im not selling one am i? why the fk would i bother its not a scam you noob
@smiles1969able What does $150 buy you? An electrolyzer? And what will that do? Convert electric energy into hydrogen? You haven't learned yet that it takes MORE energy to make hydrogen, than the hydrogen gives back by burning it?
Boy oh boy, we have a fresh one. Where oh where do we start...
@smiles1969able I could not help but notice that you had nothing to say about how electric energy is expressed in Watts and how that is Voltage multiplied by Amperage. You only mentioned voltage. You can not create energy. The amount of energy you have to spend to make hydrogen is more than the amount of energy that burning the made hydrogen gives back.
You're clearly very ignorant, and it is YOU that's looking like an idiot.
@smiles1969able In the future, perhaps we can fill our cars with hydrogen at hydrogen stations or at home. This would use safe hydrogen storage tanks in the car. The car would use a fuel cell to convert the hydrogen to electricity that drives an electric motor. Cars would not have internal combustion engines.
All that is a distant future.
In the meantime, the only way to get a car moving around, is by filling up gas. I know it, you know it.
@a1mint the idea of using the fuel cell was for people to use them in an effort to get people back to the service station , thats right(buy it again), you dont need a fuel cell to make the hydrogen as it is made on demand by your hydrogen converter, you dont need to store hydrogen at all..
1) a fuel cell converts fuel to electricity. HHO peddler misuse and abuse this term and are calling electrolyzer incorrectly fuel cells. NEVER call an electrolyzer a fuel cell EVER again, ok?
2) It takes more energy to create hydrogen from water, than the energy that becomes available in the generated hydrogen.
Hence, on-board on-demand HHO can not provide any gains, and the whole thing is a bona fide SCAM !
@a1mint In the present we can ride bikes! People keep trying to come up with greener ways to run a car. Part of the problem is cars. Too many people driving too many cars. Bikes are a simple way to reduce your environmental impact. We don't have to wait for the future for bikes to be a viable option. If you are just driving around town, a bike will do the job. In some cases it can work better than a car. If you take a bike trail you avoid traffic and traffic lights.
@purplemutantas Countries like The Netherlands (Holland) use a lot of bikes. There are no schoolbuses there for instance.
But the distances are much closer. You can actually get just about anywhere you need to go on a bicycle. They even got large bags attached on the back so you can carry groceries.
But in North America, it would take hours and hours on a bike to get to where you need to go. Imagine picking up a case of beer with 2 hours each way.
@a1mint try telling that to the many welders who are using this man's electrolysis machine to fuel their blowtorches. those people are saving lots of money and time, along with promoting health and safety.
your propaganda only goes to show how much of a horrible person you are.
@katsumorymoto The source of energy what you're referring to is electricity. Water in itself is not a source of energy. You need to spend more energy on electrolysis to produce hydrogen, than the amount of energy that the produced hydrogen yields.
Water is not a source of energy. I've just explained why.
You need to show some respect to someone that clearly knows a lot more about this than you do!
@a1mint The electricity that this machine uses is nowheres near equal to the heat energy created when you apply the flame on the torch to a piece of tungsten (10k degrees celsius) or charcoal, steel, etc. Any welder who is using oxy-acetylene instead of this guy's machine is a fool. This man's invention makes oxy-acetylene torches completely and utterly obsolete, which makes it NOT a scam.
you need to show respect to the welders who use this device on a regular basis to save loads of money.
@katsumorymoto That bullshit. The law of nature of the conservation of energy states that you can not create or destroy energy. You can only convert it. And every time you convert a form of energy you get losses in the form of heat.
So, *NO*, the amount of energy in a flame made with hydrogen, can *NOT* be "more" than the amount of electric energy required by the electrolysis process to create the hydrogen.
You clearly do not understand science. I do. I teach YOU, you IGNORANT one !
@katsumorymoto You're not understanding this law of nature. You can not create or destroy energy. Why are you not getting this?
You can not convert energy and end up with more energy. You just end up with energy in a different form. But the amount is always lower after conversation.
You arguing against that reveals you to be completely ignorant in science !
"The law of conservation of energy is a law of physics. It states that the total amount of energy in a system remains constant over time (is said to be conserved over time). A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor be destroyed: it can only be transformed from one state to another. The only thing that can happen to energy in a system is that it can change form: for instance chemical energy can become kinetic energy."
@a1mint If you walk up to someone who's drinking a pepsi and say, "pepsi doesn't exist, here's why: (blablablablabalblabla esoteric scientific explanation)", it doesn't change the fact that many people will still buy a pepsi every day and be using it and enjoying it and living their lives in thanks of its existence.
Many welders buy this man's aquygen machine and the device actually does exactly what is demonstrated in the video.
@katsumorymoto While you think you can equate this to a joke about pop, science remains. You can not convert a form of energy into another form of energy and end up with more energy than you started with. What part of that fails to get through to you?
I'm not denying that you *can* weld using hydrogen (and oxygen) that is produced from electrolysis. In dispute is the AMOUNT of energy required to do this.
@katsumorymoto Another way of looking at it, so show that you're wrong is this:
If more energy is yielded after conversion, you could use the output energy and take a portion of it to feed the input. You'd get a perpetual motion machine.
So, at this point, it's best for you take a step back, take all this in, and reconsider what you think you know about all this.
It'd be quite embarrassing to actually defend your point at this point. Realize when you lost. It'll only get worse for you.
@a1mint Another way of looking at it, so show that you're wrong is this:
If the device is a scam, then why the fuck was Donald E Wann (currently replaced by Dallas Pruitt), a machine shop teacher at Fulton County Area Technology Center in Kentucky, using the Aquygen blowtorch fuel generator seen in the video to teach his entire class?
Pick up the telephone, call that school right now and SPEAK WITH THE PEOPLE USING THE MACHINE AS WE SPEAK!!
@katsumorymoto The argument here is not about whether you *can* make a welder using hydrogen generated through electrolysis. I have not at any point denied that you can do this.
The argument here is that the amount of energy that is needed to make hydrogen is more than the energy you get from burning the hydrogen.
Clearly, your communication skills leave much to be desired.
@a1mint The argument is whether or not the video is a scam. This video is not a scam. The machine is a terrific product that is and has been revolutionizing the welding torch industry. On the James Randi Educational Foundation forums, they state this man is a scam artist liar who is knowingly deceiving the public with false advertising. This is obviously propaganda.
And seeing as how the device uses only 40 watts for about 5 minutes, it's obviously breaking the laws of thermodynamics as well.
@katsumorymoto Yes, this video is a scam. Water is NOT a source of energy. It has absolutely nothing to do with your welding torch. Your welding torch does not use water. It uses hydrogen. That hydrogen can be MADE using water and electricity. This requires a great deal of electric energy.
Revealing a scam does not automatically become "propaganda".
We all know that water is not a source of energy. Even you know this.
@a1mint The video can't be a scam if people are using the device with tremendous success. Whether or not "water is/isn't a source of energy" is just an esoteric sidenote. The welding torch's fuel generator device uses water and about 40 watts of power for 5 minutes produce enough fuel to last hours. If you call the Fulton County Area Technology Center in Kentucky, they will confirm all this.
NOTHING ABOUT THE SALE OF THE MACHINE IS A SCAM AT ALL!
@katsumorymoto There exists no scientific evidence that it is possible to run a car on water. It's all lies. The video states that the car is running on water. That is not possible, because water is not a source of energy.
No, 40 Watts for 5 minutes does not provide enough hydrogen to weld with for hours.
Yes, it *IS* a scam.
Prove otherwise. You realize that you're contradicting pure science, don't you?
@a1mint If you call the Fulton Country Area Technology Center in Kentucky, and speak with or visit their welding and machine shop classes, OR simply buy one of these aquygen generator machines yourself and test it out, you will find that it performs exactly as the video depicts it.
As for the stuff about cars, that area of application is irrelevant in proving my case. That branch of application is just not worth looking at, b/c the blowtorch concept is much simpler and easy to prove.
@katsumorymoto And even if you *could* weld for hours with 51 grams of hydrogen, it'd be a pretty darn small tiny flame. Perhaps suitable for jewelry welding work?
But again, this has nothing to with "water powered cars". Water is not a source of energy. You're bringing up something that involves an electric energy source.
That car isn't using an electric energy source. It's energy source supposedly is water, and that's not possible, because water is not a source of energy.
@a1mint The Fulton County* (not country, but County) Area Technology Center in Kentucky welding and machine shop classes use this device with very little electricity to produce enough gas to last for hours. They will confirm this, along with anyone who has bought or uses or has ever used the aquygen generator will confirm that this is true.
Thus the device can't be a scam. It's an extremely practical device- easy to use, costs almost nothing to run it.
@katsumorymoto 40 Watts for 5 minutes produces about 51 grams of hydrogen. If you think that's enough to weld with for hours on end, then that must be a pretty darn tiny flame. Jewelry work perhaps?
And again, you're mixing two entirely different things. One is an electric powered welder, and the other is a car that supposedly runs on water, which is not possible, because water in itself is not a source of energy.
@a1mint Pull your douchebag face out of the calculator/physics books/propaganda, pick up the phone, call or visit or become one of the people that uses this machine on a regular basis, and you will see what is plain and obvious about this machine's performance and fuel efficiency: that the device is a WONDERFUL addition to the United States economy and that it is extremely disrespectful and moronic to ignore this device's potential and practicality.
@katsumorymoto Calculations and scientific numbers make you nervous and uncomfortable? Is that because it makes your point look so stupid? The numbers are what they are. You can not argue against that.
I've just stated pure hard facts.
1 kilogram of hydrogen will yield 141.9 mega Joules of heat energy.
40 Watts @ 5 minutes is 12 KJ.
Is this all too hard for you to comprehend? Shall I draw you a picture? Would that help?
@a1mint Your calculations are irrelevant b/c they were generated based off purely esoteric expectations of what you're expecting the machine to do.
In any case of investigative scientific journalism, you must go to the people using the machine, or buy the machine and test it directly yourself in order to be a credible witness to the reality of what you're reporting. You're afraid to call or visit the Fulton County Area Technology Center's welding class b/c you know you're wrong.
@katsumorymoto 40 Watts for 5 minutes technically equals 3.3 WH.
An electrolyzer that uses 40 Watts and you run that for 5 minutes, you end up with hydrogen, which when burned, will yield less than 40 Watts worth of energy if you use it up in 5 minutes.
If you use it up in 1 minute, then it will yield less than 200 Watts worth of heat energy.
Etc.
Key think, end of day, every bit of energy is always accounted for.
@a1mint That 3.3WH produces enough fuel to last for hours and heat hundreds of heating materials (brass, copper, ceramics, etc.) to thousands of degrees farenheit (which is very useful for steam engines hooked up to alternators).
If you call up the Fulton County Area Technology Center in Kentucky, they will confirm all of this. This man in the video is not a scam artist in the slightest bit. JREF is defaming him to set up propaganda that will block his efforts to market his wonderful device.
@katsumorymoto It produces about 51 grams of hydrogen. Nothing to do with water powered cars. Your welder's energy source is electricity. That car's energy source supposedly is water which is not possible, because water in itself is not a source of energy.
Your attempts to convolute and confuse the matter has not worked.
@a1mint You're changing the subject of the discussion in order to remain ignorant of the reality behind this man's invention (the aquygen generator).
This is not about cars. The video touches briefly on cars, but the main immediate reason that this invention is revolutionary is b/c of the blowtorch use. You originally stated, and have been constantly suggesting and re-stating: "the device and/or video is a scam". This is purely propaganda, and the JREF community is also defaming the invention.
@katsumorymoto No, you changed the subject. The subject was about cars running on water. Water is not a source of energy. You're trying to argue otherwise, because you think you know of a welding apparatus that can weld for hours using just 40 Watts of power for 5 minutes.
Water is not a source of energy. What part of that don't you understand?
Speaking against scams like this is not propaganda, but it's defending science.
@a1mint If you can't even comprehend the lies you spew about the way you spew your lies through having obviously changed the subject several times, then you're simply too insanely ignorant and stupid to be capable of holding a logical discussion into this matter. You obviously lack the mental capacity to be a credible witness to the reality behind anything other than the contents of a physics book hand-fed to you by a conservative teacher (like a crying, immature baby).
@katsumorymoto I've not stated any lies. I'm going by scientific information and evidence. I did the math. 40 Watts @ 5 minutes produces about 51 grams of hydrogen. If you think that is wrong then it is up to you to show what is wrong.
Who is "immature" we'll leave up to other to judge. I'm not worried for a split second.
@a1mint Watch the entire video that is linked in the description of this youtube video. The main emphasis for the convincing evidence behind this machine's legitimacy is seen in the immediate obsoletion of all oxy-acetylene welding torches. ANY professional welder who is using oxy-acetylene rather than an aquygen generator is simply living in ignorance of how wonderful Denny Klein's invention (the aquygen generator) is.
Do actual journalism. Speak with, or test for yourself the machine's power.
@katsumorymoto The welders you refer to have nothing to do with this car or claims how water supposedly is a source of energy. The welder system is not making any claims that water is a source of energy. What is wrong about the welder system is your claims that 40 Watt @ 5 minutes provides more than 51 grams worth of hydrogen. Or perhaps 51 grams of hydrogen is enough for hours of welding. Is it?
Are you disputing that 51 grams number? If so, what part of the calculation is wrong then?
@76malibu81 So, a "chemistry class" is going to show different numbers? Instead of just barfing up bullshit, why don't you tell me exactly what is wrong with anything I have said or claimed here.
Its a old old old technology !!! already invented from the philippines by Daniel Dingle in 1969... search for its history here in youture theres video about it...
@Netherv0iD Daniel's claims were declared false by the Philippine Department of Science and Technology after investigations. He has never revealed the secret to his "invention". So you can't even know if it works or if it's a hoax.
You're not even scrutinizing or asking any questions at all about this? You really do accept any and all information from source that you think share your beliefs?
Do you even know what science is at all? Have you ever even heard of the term?
There is a simple guide called HHO Booster that I have used, and you can use to convert your car to get up to 60 MPG, and safely improve your cars performance by more than 65% for 10x cheaper than a hybrid vehicle from any brand of auto maker literally.
Buying HHO Booster is one Of the best decisions I have ever made. Checkout my video and unbiased review of the HHO Booster Guide on my channel in the description of video.
think if the water to energy technology was able to the mass then every one would buy a car or a motor engine that do that process then in a maybe one year oil fuel would decrease rapidly and with it the wolrd economy and if wolrd economy is freezed then maybe 99% of the humans would have huge problems like no food etc. dont demand such tech instantly just w8 all nations are going that way step by step.
If you have a great idea like this, offer it on the internet as a download for a buck a shot. With millions potential customers you can still come out very rich and help break the hold the oil industry has on us. Think about it.
It would take something much more secure than that. Doing something that would/could could destroy an industry the size of the oil industry would be a dangerous proposition for whoever tried it.
I agree...stop trying to profit from technology that should be free to all. Money needs to stop being the form of commerce before the greed will come to an end. Thanks for this video!
theres a difference in running your car on hydrogen and running on your car on water. no one has run their car on water. people should making that claim
Definitely put this knowledge into the hands of the common man/woman. Then, together, starting with small communities helping each other out, we can become independent of the parasite (state) and work towards self-sufficiency.
i think he was murdered already by OPEC either that or permanently silenced some other way. the oil companies want to ruin our lives, it DOES work theyve had this technology since 1920. if you make a water car dont tell anyone but ur immediate family. if word got out that u werent paying $4.00/gal like everyone else OPEC would lose money and then hunt u down and make u not exist. beware of GOV. and OPEC
@onlyinthewest1 I sincerely hope it works, I really do, and I applaud your desire to experiment. But all current relevant scientific theory says this is flatly impossible. Also scientists have tried to do this for years and failed. Unfortunately Freddy and Meyers are hoaxers, or they unknowingly created flawed prototypes that seem to work, but really don't. If you test any of these devices under lab conditions I guarantee you that all of them have higher energy inputs than outputs.
@onlyinthewest1 To clarify, of course I agree you can run specially designed vehicles on hydrogen. What you can't do is produce enough electricity from that car's engine to produce sufficient hydrogen or HHO from water to feed back into the engine as the only fuel source. Note when I say “produce”, you can also say “separate”, chemically it means the same thing.
It was an roumanian who invented the first, the water based-engine! This was a long time ago. Look on Google for Gheorghe Bordeianu. It's a shame that he stealed his invention!
We need to start outfitting our cars with it ourselves and stop waiting for the government to tell us it's ok. If enough of us convert our cars, they will have no choice than to stop blocking this technology from coming out, they'll have to change their tune about hydrogen being to dangerous.
@onlyinthewest1 The point is that there is no usable energy in water. To make enough hydrogen to generate one kJ of energy you need to expend AT LEAST one kJ of energy electrolysing water (usually more because no machine is perfectly efficient).
The energy put out by an alternator ultimately comes from the fuel used to run the engine (whether gasoline or hydrogen) and is a fraction of the energy needed to move the car, therefore cannot electrolyse sufficient hydrogen to allow the car to run.
but you could put smaller more efficient engines into a car running a hybrid like he did. I put a hydrogen generator in my geo metro lsi, 40 mpg average before hho and almost 75 after...yeah I think that water power is completely possible as something to offset the amount of carbon fuels we use.
@onlyinthewest1 The point is that there is little or no usable energy in the water molecule. To make a usable fuel you have to put in exactly the same energy (in theory) that you will eventually derive from burning the hydrogen or using it in a fuel cell. In practice no machine is perfectly efficient, so you actually have to put in MORE energy than you will eventually get out of the hydrogen fuel.
@bertrand686 ~ Uh... you need to delete one of your almost identical statements here. But, I'd delete them both and be really embarrassed that I made them public. And, fyi, the Brown's Gas produced is both hydrogen and oxygen. And, parroting the establishment's propaganda won't make overunity a myth. All man's machines could be water powered now, if it weren't for closed minds & the Khazarian Zionists (non-jews) who endebted us, collapsed the global economy and are now forclosing on Earth.
@stopdemockery Sorry mate, it's not "establishment propaganda", it's the science of thermodynamics. What's embarrassing is lacking a basic understanding of physics and chemistry, but still somehow feeling qualified to comment on this kind of technology.
Having an open mind is good, but you have to be careful your brain doesn't fall out.
@bertrand686 Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to finally bring that up. The masses love to jump to this, "Amg! The whole world's trying to screw me!" without ever considered the basic chemistry and physics of why we depend on things like oil. The answer is because they are cheap. I totally agree we should be looking for other sources fuel, but we're not using oil exclusively to line the pockets of the Arabs
@bertrand686 you must be a scientist. If you are not, then take this into consideration. Harmonic resonance (sound waves) will create sufficient HHO. You do know that sound waves can kill. It can shatter bones and internal organs. It can also be used to heal. If you continue to shill for the oil conglomerates, you will share in their fate.
@kmoney37 That sounds a bit like a threat. Yes, I am a scientist, and I don't “shill” for anyone. Every decent person wants cleaner, cheaper fuels, and electric and hydrogen fuel cell cars are promising technologies. But water is not a fuel. HHO may slightly increase fuel efficiency, but it's a tricky job even for engineers, so a home-made kit just won't work. And harmonic resonance is irrelevant. Check out "The truth about water-powered cars" at popularmechanics
@bertrand686 You mention Popular Mechanics' "truth about water-powered cars", which for those who believe in a "conspiracy" of new world oligarchy being a rich vs poor system, would say that message is sponsored by (Hearst Corp) a private wealthy media conglomerate (read: thought/perception controllers) who clearly do not have an overall benevolent agenda.
@moktail For me, the "Popular Mechanics" article is just the tip of an iceberg of scientific evidence and theory that all indicates that electrolysing water requires a minimum of 242 kj to produce a mole of hydrogen gas. A grainy Youtube video cannot be counter-evidence for this.
You have to ask yourself: What is more likely? Either every scientist in the world is also in on the conspiracy, or this one guy is making extravagant claims for whatever reason.
@Mrsheytun it is free.. water is free, and hho is 100x more combustable.. meaning the engine required to turn the electric generate can be 4x smaller. Exactly what I'm doing... 1.5 litre per minute is enough to run a 3.5 horse lawnmower engine @ 800 rpm, engine turns a permanent magnet alternator. input 12v @15 amps (180watts), output 1800 watts (24volt x 80amp) scale it up, think I could use a smaller engine actually..
not paying for gas is going to save us all not hurt us. free enrgy isnt going to hurt us it is going to save us, when one area fizzles out other areas grow, just what area do we want to grow? truth or lies of needing oil?
Why.....why must they go to the gov. and dealers with something like this..why must they go to the people that will exploit this to only make a huge profit out of it. They will start building these cars and they will cost a fortune for any average american to purchase.
IMPORTANT! This car runs on hydrogen made from water and ELECTRICITY! The electricity still has to be produced by coal or nuclear powerstations and costs money. We still don't produce anywhere near enough electricity from renewable sources for this to be considered a "clean" technology.
Hopefully one day we will, but for now lets keep positive developments like this one in the proper perspective.
when are people gonna stop trying to make a profit on this, dont get with car manufactures and def not the govt. For god sakes, change the world for the better, be fucking original and give the information to everyone so we can retrofit our cars and show big oil we dont need them anymore.
@solarcell2011 okie dokie, this is not his tecknology its been know for almost 200 years. electrolysis splits the hydrogen and oxygen from water, hho is very flammable, like gasoline, propane., natural gas, etc.. all of the gas fuels can be used in any combustion engine or torch, or anything any other fuel does.. Its not much of a secret nowadays... combustable fuels work in combustion eniges, ha, go fig.... lookup the USA patent: BROWN'S GAS.
@Me102288 Why are you telling me about hydrogen? i know how its made, ive made it. What you typed in response to me makes no sense, i think you clicked on the wrong person, re read what i posted and youll see.
HAHAH THE US GOVERNMENT!!! they would just take the idea and probably kill the guy. the dude that came out with that shit before got his car stolen and got poisoned. Look into it.
Those who state that water power will use as much power as it creates are right, however they are missing their mark. The real point is that we can greatly reduce emissions and dependence on foreign sources of oil. Power plants are many more times efficient at converting oil into power than any automobile could be, and they are also better at reducing or even negating emissions into our environment.
Once again Fox "news" completely misses the mark... Electrolyzing water into HHO is nothing new, nor is burning the resulting gas in order to power an automobile or a torch. The problems with using HHO for an automobile, however, are enormous. First off, a gas takes up a lot of space, must be highly pressurized, and is extremely unsafe. Second, it's literally impossible to get more energy out of it than you use to create it. The car doesn't run on water. The car runs on lots of electricity.
The only way for the world to benefit from this is not to take patent on it but to really f@&k up for the people who sit with the control/power and put it on Internet for all to make so everybody have free energy. If you keep it for your self and want to make sh!t load of money you may end up dead. Maybe you f@&k up the worlds economy but you give something for your next generation to follow up.
@gunsmoke67 I couldn’t agree more with you, if one day I invent I new technologies like this, I will never try to sell it and patent it. It’s a fact that, there are people with a lot of power and agent that get info around the world and its will only be a matter of days for them to shut you down. The best thing to do is get a couple of trusted people with you and spread a video and PDF files all over the internet that explain the “how to” and that’s it’s, your job’s done on earth.
@Ec0topia You're right the days of making money from something are over. It's about freeing our society from the clutches of these corporate & banking cartels that have used money to enslave us all. I have learnt some things that make me shudder. We have been tricked into perpetuating a system run by devious scum bags. Money is worthless, it is the people, the technicians that are of value & drive us forward.... CONT
@Ec0topia CONT... Money is the tools used to conquer, we now are being forced to share our resources and ideas to save ourselves from ourselves. It is the only way forward. It makes me feel good to see people continuing to refine Mr Meyers invention, soon we will be free from these tyrants and be able to follow our own path, sharing all our resources outside the system we live in today.
Relatively speaking, I actually don't think it would screw the economy up much to impliment energy sources like this globally. A huge reason why we need the amount of money in today's economy to run is because of our high cost of living. If there were enough free, or close to free, energy sources out there, the cost of living for most people would drop so dramatically that a huge drop in the economy wouldn't hurt much because life in general would run much more efficiently.
Stan Meyers first patented this in the 80's. This guy is merely is simply a thief who restated previous patents... do a search for Stan Meyers on the net. This moron invented nothing.
@cradle00 bro....dapat seguro may magsabi ding sira ulo ang nag inbemto nito...gaya ng ginawa ng gobyerno natin sa original pinoy imbentor nito.....kakainis sistema ng gobyerno natin bro.....
hmmm 4 years later and what do you know... no water engines... maybe because the government wont allow anyone to make these commercial..and if someone tries to .. they get killed or "mysteriously vanishes"...
@olson5252 i agree! our government here in philippines didnt support that invention too we also have an inventor that discover this but they ignored him.
@TheJomogogo @ American inventors, like this guy, were MURDERED. They were trying to go ahead with this invention and they get stopped at every turn. One was POISONED (proven) and this guy had an "accident". This technology is being suppressed, Military uses this technology but will not allow it to be given to the masses. It would wipe out Taxes made off gas and the Luciferian system would collapse, the NEW world is coming and Lucifer will be wiped away. Are you ready?
@TheJomogogo whats you proof dimwit prove it by demonstration not by big mouth those ppol demonstrate it in video and all saying its not just by words.
hahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahaha.....................................ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...aahahah I can't stop laghing!!!haahahahahahahaha
PROUD TO BE A CANADIAN.......HAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THATS FUNNY..HEY I'M MEXICAN AND PROUD OF IT BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TITLE YOU PUT ON THE VIDEO?????? example: A canadian build a new source of energy. hahahahahaahahahahahaha I just can stop laghing
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Of course Daniel's claims were declared false by the Philippine Department of Science and Technology why? Conspiracy there are billions and billions of dollars invested in fuel and a technology like that would come along what would happen to those invested money.
actually in reality there are so many technology already developed to make things much better but because of money that has invested and the "system" would be affected it has been denied and rejected.
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Netherv0iD 3 weeks ago
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO REPLICATE THIS EFFECT, SIMPLY CHARGE CELL (LIKE CAPACITOR) THEN DISCHARGE OR SHORT BOTH ELECTRODES, DO IT IN UP TO 250KHz AND YOU SEE THAT YOU ARE MAKING MORE THAN WITH REGULAR ELECTROLYSIS!
cheers from poland
wojsciech 1 month ago
So what happened with this? Where are the water powered cars?!
Smoker129 1 month ago
THIS WAS INVENTED BY PHILIPPINE TSK3
hhArjEe09 2 months ago
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how do u explain those new hydrogen powered car that is powered by compressed hydrogen in a tank, not hydrogen from fuel cell generator split from water on demand..think why they want it on a compress tank? cuz they want stations.. why station? so ppl will stop by & refuel..& make lots & lots of MONEY :D
CEFD11777 3 months ago
apex 2:49 Proud to be Canadian and capitalist whats up with that.?
ztarrfect 4 months ago
no wonder this is on Fox News. it's pure shitfuckery
KanyeTroll 5 months ago
wheres that car
OOar 5 months ago
Katsumo is very intelligent while a1mint is an idiot (research proven)! You need to watch the lectures by Stan Meyer. Ask yourself why people like Stan Meyer get assassinated while frauds like Al Einstein end up with Nobel prizes?
911LIESdotORG 5 months ago
I would love to speak to someone face to face who is familiar with this hydrogen stuff. I know hydrogen is combustible, and i know we can get it from electrolysis. I'm just curious how you would use it strictly in a car without changing everything around. also how do you store the hydrogen you've created? just curious
srgntdeath 5 months ago
the conservative/capitalist stuff at the end was a bit odd...
joshbottube 5 months ago
for those of you who are arguing about the legitimacy of water being able to be a power source check out stanley meyer and his water powered car. I'm fairly sure that his vehicles that use only water prove (proved i should say since he's dead) that water is capable of being used as a source of energy. I may not have a degree in chemistry but I have enough sense to see that stanley meyer's inventions are fake. He hasn't been debunked yet either.
KKrisist 6 months ago
@KKrisist We all know who Stanley Meyer was and we all know how what he claimed was complete bull. All he did was have an electrolysis unit to provide the gas stream for the engine, but water was never the energy source - only the electricity to run the electrolysis unit. The concept was bogus, his patents don't actually describe anything revolutionary, and neither he nor anyone else has EVER provided a working model of a water-powered anything for scrutiny.
somedudeinva 5 months ago
what if everyone had that car there would be no mor water and still gas is to y cant people walk
yannapiespy 6 months ago
I have read that algae can convert water into hydrogen, realease hydrogen, and still run.
jsttreat 6 months ago
PMSL, hottor than the sun.. bahahahahaaah
The fucking room would be on fire!!!!
antennadudedan 7 months ago
YOU COULD DO IT , ECOLOGIC RE EVOLUTION PLEASE QUICK
christophezirgle 7 months ago
Water is not a source of energy. All this "water fuel" crap is just a scam.
a1mint 8 months ago in playlist xogen 3
@a1mint lmao no its not iv seen it
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able Explain to me what it is that you saw exactly.
a1mint 7 months ago 6
@a1mint a 2006 v8 fuel injected ford falcon with homemade hydrogen setup running very well !! its old technology , the fuel injected model cars have a fuel injector computer that tunes itself to run better on the hydrogen. the hydrogen setup is stupidly easy to make
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able Hydrogen is not water. Hydrogen can be made from water, but you have to spend more energy to split that water, than the amount of energy that you get back through burning the hydrogen.
Water is not a source of energy. Hydrogen is not a source of energy either, because hydrogen does not naturally occur on earth, you have to make it. Therefore, hydrogen is a carrier of energy, not a source.
a1mint 7 months ago 3
@a1mint yes 12volts will split that water up nicely ! who cares iv seen it working its cheap to setup and make and well its just bubbling water to run your car! great stuff !!
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able The amount of energy in electricity is not just Voltage, and it is not just Amperage, but Voltage multiplied by Amperage. That's expressed in Watts.
You need MORE electric energy than the energy that burning the produced hydrogen gives back.
You have a LONG way to go before you'll get all this.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint you have been scammed to thinking its not a fuel , not only does hydrogen work hydrogen is clean it can be recycled from your car exhaust then filtered back into your hydrogen unit. email david at geet.nl
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able You are scamming people into making them think that hydrogen can be obtained from water freely and effortlessly, and that therefore water is a source of energy.
In reality, you have to spend energy to break hydrogen from the water molecule.
The laws of nature states that you can not create or destroy energy, you can only convert it, and every time you do, you incur losses in the form of heat.
HHO is a scam.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint what a egg you are turning into! for around 150 bucks you can make one yourself im not selling one am i? why the fk would i bother its not a scam you noob
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able What does $150 buy you? An electrolyzer? And what will that do? Convert electric energy into hydrogen? You haven't learned yet that it takes MORE energy to make hydrogen, than the hydrogen gives back by burning it?
Boy oh boy, we have a fresh one. Where oh where do we start...
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint no you IDIOT im saying for 150 you can build your own fully operational hydrogen unit to run your car on simple you stupid fk
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able I could not help but notice that you had nothing to say about how electric energy is expressed in Watts and how that is Voltage multiplied by Amperage. You only mentioned voltage. You can not create energy. The amount of energy you have to spend to make hydrogen is more than the amount of energy that burning the made hydrogen gives back.
You're clearly very ignorant, and it is YOU that's looking like an idiot.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint no i gave up on you , just keep buying petrol
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able In the future, perhaps we can fill our cars with hydrogen at hydrogen stations or at home. This would use safe hydrogen storage tanks in the car. The car would use a fuel cell to convert the hydrogen to electricity that drives an electric motor. Cars would not have internal combustion engines.
All that is a distant future.
In the meantime, the only way to get a car moving around, is by filling up gas. I know it, you know it.
The only exception are plugin electric car$.
a1mint 7 months ago
@a1mint the idea of using the fuel cell was for people to use them in an effort to get people back to the service station , thats right(buy it again), you dont need a fuel cell to make the hydrogen as it is made on demand by your hydrogen converter, you dont need to store hydrogen at all..
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able
1) a fuel cell converts fuel to electricity. HHO peddler misuse and abuse this term and are calling electrolyzer incorrectly fuel cells. NEVER call an electrolyzer a fuel cell EVER again, ok?
2) It takes more energy to create hydrogen from water, than the energy that becomes available in the generated hydrogen.
Hence, on-board on-demand HHO can not provide any gains, and the whole thing is a bona fide SCAM !
a1mint 7 months ago 2
@a1mint In the present we can ride bikes! People keep trying to come up with greener ways to run a car. Part of the problem is cars. Too many people driving too many cars. Bikes are a simple way to reduce your environmental impact. We don't have to wait for the future for bikes to be a viable option. If you are just driving around town, a bike will do the job. In some cases it can work better than a car. If you take a bike trail you avoid traffic and traffic lights.
purplemutantas 6 months ago
@purplemutantas Countries like The Netherlands (Holland) use a lot of bikes. There are no schoolbuses there for instance.
But the distances are much closer. You can actually get just about anywhere you need to go on a bicycle. They even got large bags attached on the back so you can carry groceries.
But in North America, it would take hours and hours on a bike to get to where you need to go. Imagine picking up a case of beer with 2 hours each way.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@a1mint water is energy
smiles1969able 7 months ago
@smiles1969able No it's not! Water is not a source of energy at all!
a1mint 7 months ago
@smiles1969able ok water isnt energy but you can get the h2 (hydrogen) out of water and it can create energy with the right equipment
dodofinii 7 months ago
@a1mint this video is real. STOP SPEWING PROPAGANDA!
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto No it's not! Water is NOT a source of energy!
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint try telling that to the many welders who are using this man's electrolysis machine to fuel their blowtorches. those people are saving lots of money and time, along with promoting health and safety.
your propaganda only goes to show how much of a horrible person you are.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto The source of energy what you're referring to is electricity. Water in itself is not a source of energy. You need to spend more energy on electrolysis to produce hydrogen, than the amount of energy that the produced hydrogen yields.
Water is not a source of energy. I've just explained why.
You need to show some respect to someone that clearly knows a lot more about this than you do!
a1mint 6 months ago 2
@a1mint The electricity that this machine uses is nowheres near equal to the heat energy created when you apply the flame on the torch to a piece of tungsten (10k degrees celsius) or charcoal, steel, etc. Any welder who is using oxy-acetylene instead of this guy's machine is a fool. This man's invention makes oxy-acetylene torches completely and utterly obsolete, which makes it NOT a scam.
you need to show respect to the welders who use this device on a regular basis to save loads of money.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto That bullshit. The law of nature of the conservation of energy states that you can not create or destroy energy. You can only convert it. And every time you convert a form of energy you get losses in the form of heat.
So, *NO*, the amount of energy in a flame made with hydrogen, can *NOT* be "more" than the amount of electric energy required by the electrolysis process to create the hydrogen.
You clearly do not understand science. I do. I teach YOU, you IGNORANT one !
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Listen real good you smug, propaganda spewing, esoteric nerd son of a bitch.
WELDERS ARE CURRENTLY USING THIS MAN'S MACHINE TO REPLACE OXY-ACETLYENE BLOWTORCHES AND ARE SAVING LOTS OF MONEY AND TIME AND SAFETY !!!
MACHINE SHOP CLASSES ARE USING THIS MAN'S MACHINE TO POWER THEIR BLOWTORCHES AND IT WORKS WITH VERY LITTLE ELECTRICITY AND HARDLY ANY WATER !!!
REALIZE WHEN YOU'VE LOST YOU IGNORANT FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP!!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto You're not understanding this law of nature. You can not create or destroy energy. Why are you not getting this?
You can not convert energy and end up with more energy. You just end up with energy in a different form. But the amount is always lower after conversation.
You arguing against that reveals you to be completely ignorant in science !
a1mint 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto Wikipedia: Conservation_of_energy
"The law of conservation of energy is a law of physics. It states that the total amount of energy in a system remains constant over time (is said to be conserved over time). A consequence of this law is that energy can neither be created nor be destroyed: it can only be transformed from one state to another. The only thing that can happen to energy in a system is that it can change form: for instance chemical energy can become kinetic energy."
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint If you walk up to someone who's drinking a pepsi and say, "pepsi doesn't exist, here's why: (blablablablabalblabla esoteric scientific explanation)", it doesn't change the fact that many people will still buy a pepsi every day and be using it and enjoying it and living their lives in thanks of its existence.
Many welders buy this man's aquygen machine and the device actually does exactly what is demonstrated in the video.
STOP DENYING THIS! STOP THE PROPAGANDA!!
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto While you think you can equate this to a joke about pop, science remains. You can not convert a form of energy into another form of energy and end up with more energy than you started with. What part of that fails to get through to you?
I'm not denying that you *can* weld using hydrogen (and oxygen) that is produced from electrolysis. In dispute is the AMOUNT of energy required to do this.
a1mint 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto Another way of looking at it, so show that you're wrong is this:
If more energy is yielded after conversion, you could use the output energy and take a portion of it to feed the input. You'd get a perpetual motion machine.
So, at this point, it's best for you take a step back, take all this in, and reconsider what you think you know about all this.
It'd be quite embarrassing to actually defend your point at this point. Realize when you lost. It'll only get worse for you.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Another way of looking at it, so show that you're wrong is this:
If the device is a scam, then why the fuck was Donald E Wann (currently replaced by Dallas Pruitt), a machine shop teacher at Fulton County Area Technology Center in Kentucky, using the Aquygen blowtorch fuel generator seen in the video to teach his entire class?
Pick up the telephone, call that school right now and SPEAK WITH THE PEOPLE USING THE MACHINE AS WE SPEAK!!
Do your research first you asshole. Call them up.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto The argument here is not about whether you *can* make a welder using hydrogen generated through electrolysis. I have not at any point denied that you can do this.
The argument here is that the amount of energy that is needed to make hydrogen is more than the energy you get from burning the hydrogen.
Clearly, your communication skills leave much to be desired.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint The argument is whether or not the video is a scam. This video is not a scam. The machine is a terrific product that is and has been revolutionizing the welding torch industry. On the James Randi Educational Foundation forums, they state this man is a scam artist liar who is knowingly deceiving the public with false advertising. This is obviously propaganda.
And seeing as how the device uses only 40 watts for about 5 minutes, it's obviously breaking the laws of thermodynamics as well.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto Yes, this video is a scam. Water is NOT a source of energy. It has absolutely nothing to do with your welding torch. Your welding torch does not use water. It uses hydrogen. That hydrogen can be MADE using water and electricity. This requires a great deal of electric energy.
Revealing a scam does not automatically become "propaganda".
We all know that water is not a source of energy. Even you know this.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint The video can't be a scam if people are using the device with tremendous success. Whether or not "water is/isn't a source of energy" is just an esoteric sidenote. The welding torch's fuel generator device uses water and about 40 watts of power for 5 minutes produce enough fuel to last hours. If you call the Fulton County Area Technology Center in Kentucky, they will confirm all this.
NOTHING ABOUT THE SALE OF THE MACHINE IS A SCAM AT ALL!
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto There exists no scientific evidence that it is possible to run a car on water. It's all lies. The video states that the car is running on water. That is not possible, because water is not a source of energy.
No, 40 Watts for 5 minutes does not provide enough hydrogen to weld with for hours.
Yes, it *IS* a scam.
Prove otherwise. You realize that you're contradicting pure science, don't you?
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint If you call the Fulton Country Area Technology Center in Kentucky, and speak with or visit their welding and machine shop classes, OR simply buy one of these aquygen generator machines yourself and test it out, you will find that it performs exactly as the video depicts it.
As for the stuff about cars, that area of application is irrelevant in proving my case. That branch of application is just not worth looking at, b/c the blowtorch concept is much simpler and easy to prove.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
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@katsumorymoto
1 Watt is 1 Joule per second.
40 Watts for 5 minutes is 12 KJ.
An electrolyzer is probably about 60% efficient (40% heat losses).
40 Watts for 5 minutes would yield 7.2 KJ worth of hydrogen.
Burning 1kg of hydrogen yields 141.9 MJ (mega Joules).
So, we end up with 7.2 / 141900 = 0.051 kg, or 51 grams of hydrogen.
You're not going to weld for hours on end with just 51 grams of hydrogen.
I'm *sure* "Fulton" agrees with these scientific numbers.
a1mint 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto And even if you *could* weld for hours with 51 grams of hydrogen, it'd be a pretty darn small tiny flame. Perhaps suitable for jewelry welding work?
But again, this has nothing to with "water powered cars". Water is not a source of energy. You're bringing up something that involves an electric energy source.
That car isn't using an electric energy source. It's energy source supposedly is water, and that's not possible, because water is not a source of energy.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint The Fulton County* (not country, but County) Area Technology Center in Kentucky welding and machine shop classes use this device with very little electricity to produce enough gas to last for hours. They will confirm this, along with anyone who has bought or uses or has ever used the aquygen generator will confirm that this is true.
Thus the device can't be a scam. It's an extremely practical device- easy to use, costs almost nothing to run it.
Do the research. It's all true.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto 40 Watts for 5 minutes produces about 51 grams of hydrogen. If you think that's enough to weld with for hours on end, then that must be a pretty darn tiny flame. Jewelry work perhaps?
And again, you're mixing two entirely different things. One is an electric powered welder, and the other is a car that supposedly runs on water, which is not possible, because water in itself is not a source of energy.
a1mint 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto
1 Watt is 1 Joule per second.
40 Watts for 5 minutes is 12 KJ.
An electrolyzer is probably about 60% efficient (40% heat losses).
40 Watts for 5 minutes would yield 7.2 KJ worth of hydrogen.
Burning 1kg of hydrogen yields 141.9 MJ (mega Joules).
So, we end up with 7.2 / 141900 = 0.051 kg, or 51 grams of hydrogen.
You're not going to weld for hours on end with just 51 grams of hydrogen.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Pull your douchebag face out of the calculator/physics books/propaganda, pick up the phone, call or visit or become one of the people that uses this machine on a regular basis, and you will see what is plain and obvious about this machine's performance and fuel efficiency: that the device is a WONDERFUL addition to the United States economy and that it is extremely disrespectful and moronic to ignore this device's potential and practicality.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto Calculations and scientific numbers make you nervous and uncomfortable? Is that because it makes your point look so stupid? The numbers are what they are. You can not argue against that.
I've just stated pure hard facts.
1 kilogram of hydrogen will yield 141.9 mega Joules of heat energy.
40 Watts @ 5 minutes is 12 KJ.
Is this all too hard for you to comprehend? Shall I draw you a picture? Would that help?
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Your calculations are irrelevant b/c they were generated based off purely esoteric expectations of what you're expecting the machine to do.
In any case of investigative scientific journalism, you must go to the people using the machine, or buy the machine and test it directly yourself in order to be a credible witness to the reality of what you're reporting. You're afraid to call or visit the Fulton County Area Technology Center's welding class b/c you know you're wrong.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto My numbers are not irrelevant. My numbers simply show how much hydrogen you roughly end up with given the electric energy input.
Do you deny that the amount of hydrogen produced is about 51 grams?
Yes or not?
a1mint 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto 40 Watts for 5 minutes technically equals 3.3 WH.
An electrolyzer that uses 40 Watts and you run that for 5 minutes, you end up with hydrogen, which when burned, will yield less than 40 Watts worth of energy if you use it up in 5 minutes.
If you use it up in 1 minute, then it will yield less than 200 Watts worth of heat energy.
Etc.
Key think, end of day, every bit of energy is always accounted for.
Water in itself is not a source of energy.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint That 3.3WH produces enough fuel to last for hours and heat hundreds of heating materials (brass, copper, ceramics, etc.) to thousands of degrees farenheit (which is very useful for steam engines hooked up to alternators).
If you call up the Fulton County Area Technology Center in Kentucky, they will confirm all of this. This man in the video is not a scam artist in the slightest bit. JREF is defaming him to set up propaganda that will block his efforts to market his wonderful device.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto It produces about 51 grams of hydrogen. Nothing to do with water powered cars. Your welder's energy source is electricity. That car's energy source supposedly is water which is not possible, because water in itself is not a source of energy.
Your attempts to convolute and confuse the matter has not worked.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint You're changing the subject of the discussion in order to remain ignorant of the reality behind this man's invention (the aquygen generator).
This is not about cars. The video touches briefly on cars, but the main immediate reason that this invention is revolutionary is b/c of the blowtorch use. You originally stated, and have been constantly suggesting and re-stating: "the device and/or video is a scam". This is purely propaganda, and the JREF community is also defaming the invention.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto No, you changed the subject. The subject was about cars running on water. Water is not a source of energy. You're trying to argue otherwise, because you think you know of a welding apparatus that can weld for hours using just 40 Watts of power for 5 minutes.
Water is not a source of energy. What part of that don't you understand?
Speaking against scams like this is not propaganda, but it's defending science.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint If you can't even comprehend the lies you spew about the way you spew your lies through having obviously changed the subject several times, then you're simply too insanely ignorant and stupid to be capable of holding a logical discussion into this matter. You obviously lack the mental capacity to be a credible witness to the reality behind anything other than the contents of a physics book hand-fed to you by a conservative teacher (like a crying, immature baby).
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto I've not stated any lies. I'm going by scientific information and evidence. I did the math. 40 Watts @ 5 minutes produces about 51 grams of hydrogen. If you think that is wrong then it is up to you to show what is wrong.
Who is "immature" we'll leave up to other to judge. I'm not worried for a split second.
a1mint 6 months ago
@a1mint Watch the entire video that is linked in the description of this youtube video. The main emphasis for the convincing evidence behind this machine's legitimacy is seen in the immediate obsoletion of all oxy-acetylene welding torches. ANY professional welder who is using oxy-acetylene rather than an aquygen generator is simply living in ignorance of how wonderful Denny Klein's invention (the aquygen generator) is.
Do actual journalism. Speak with, or test for yourself the machine's power.
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@katsumorymoto The welders you refer to have nothing to do with this car or claims how water supposedly is a source of energy. The welder system is not making any claims that water is a source of energy. What is wrong about the welder system is your claims that 40 Watt @ 5 minutes provides more than 51 grams worth of hydrogen. Or perhaps 51 grams of hydrogen is enough for hours of welding. Is it?
Are you disputing that 51 grams number? If so, what part of the calculation is wrong then?
a1mint 6 months ago 2
@a1mint 10k degrees farenheit*, not celsius (my bad)
katsumorymoto 6 months ago
@a1mint It is..
Luccasio1 6 months ago
@a1mint take a chemistry class and you'll see different.
76malibu81 5 months ago
@76malibu81 So, a "chemistry class" is going to show different numbers? Instead of just barfing up bullshit, why don't you tell me exactly what is wrong with anything I have said or claimed here.
What's the matter, cat got your tongue?
a1mint 5 months ago
Its a old old old technology !!! already invented from the philippines by Daniel Dingle in 1969... search for its history here in youture theres video about it...
Netherv0iD 8 months ago
@Netherv0iD Daniel's claims were declared false by the Philippine Department of Science and Technology after investigations. He has never revealed the secret to his "invention". So you can't even know if it works or if it's a hoax.
You're not even scrutinizing or asking any questions at all about this? You really do accept any and all information from source that you think share your beliefs?
Do you even know what science is at all? Have you ever even heard of the term?
a1mint 7 months ago
Its a driving BOMB
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HelpingMakeLifeEZ 8 months ago
think if the water to energy technology was able to the mass then every one would buy a car or a motor engine that do that process then in a maybe one year oil fuel would decrease rapidly and with it the wolrd economy and if wolrd economy is freezed then maybe 99% of the humans would have huge problems like no food etc. dont demand such tech instantly just w8 all nations are going that way step by step.
xGuest10101 8 months ago
looks like some one is following Stan Myers hydro cell lets hope he dont get abducted as well
dalton8886 8 months ago
If you have a great idea like this, offer it on the internet as a download for a buck a shot. With millions potential customers you can still come out very rich and help break the hold the oil industry has on us. Think about it.
AZSunnyJim 8 months ago
@AZSunnyJim You'd pay a buck to be scammed? Dunno if the millions of others would, but who knows... people are pretty stupid.
mattymuck 8 months ago
@AZSunnyJim
It would take something much more secure than that. Doing something that would/could could destroy an industry the size of the oil industry would be a dangerous proposition for whoever tried it.
tokinblckgie 8 months ago
I agree...stop trying to profit from technology that should be free to all. Money needs to stop being the form of commerce before the greed will come to an end. Thanks for this video!
plimsoul27 8 months ago
theres a difference in running your car on hydrogen and running on your car on water. no one has run their car on water. people should making that claim
taledarkside 8 months ago
@taledarkside
look here mate
youtube.com/watch?v=UVhXrvCCILw
yuritoclick 8 months ago
@yuritoclick
thats a hydrogen car not water
taledarkside 8 months ago
Definitely put this knowledge into the hands of the common man/woman. Then, together, starting with small communities helping each other out, we can become independent of the parasite (state) and work towards self-sufficiency.
Peace Love Understanding
moktail 9 months ago
when he fired up that car it sounded like a gasoline engine, I need to see more.
fudgedogbannana 9 months ago
i think he was murdered already by OPEC either that or permanently silenced some other way. the oil companies want to ruin our lives, it DOES work theyve had this technology since 1920. if you make a water car dont tell anyone but ur immediate family. if word got out that u werent paying $4.00/gal like everyone else OPEC would lose money and then hunt u down and make u not exist. beware of GOV. and OPEC
kdub03301986 9 months ago
@onlyinthewest1 I sincerely hope it works, I really do, and I applaud your desire to experiment. But all current relevant scientific theory says this is flatly impossible. Also scientists have tried to do this for years and failed. Unfortunately Freddy and Meyers are hoaxers, or they unknowingly created flawed prototypes that seem to work, but really don't. If you test any of these devices under lab conditions I guarantee you that all of them have higher energy inputs than outputs.
bertrand686 9 months ago
@onlyinthewest1 To clarify, of course I agree you can run specially designed vehicles on hydrogen. What you can't do is produce enough electricity from that car's engine to produce sufficient hydrogen or HHO from water to feed back into the engine as the only fuel source. Note when I say “produce”, you can also say “separate”, chemically it means the same thing.
bertrand686 9 months ago
It was an roumanian who invented the first, the water based-engine! This was a long time ago. Look on Google for Gheorghe Bordeianu. It's a shame that he stealed his invention!
AGeorgetta 9 months ago
We need to start outfitting our cars with it ourselves and stop waiting for the government to tell us it's ok. If enough of us convert our cars, they will have no choice than to stop blocking this technology from coming out, they'll have to change their tune about hydrogen being to dangerous.
magicslayer1 9 months ago
This whole thing stinks a bit...the efficiency CANNOT be as good! Get a life.
BaziJoeUK 9 months ago
If this process can enable a car to run exclusively on water, why on Earth would he rig his car as a hybered to still use 50% galoline?
stopdemockery 10 months ago
My hho system works great. Make one yourself or buy mine.
crazybiker420 10 months ago
WTF this video was posted on Jun 21, 2006 & we still not driving water fueled cars
Snuglife4twenty 10 months ago
@onlyinthewest1 The point is that there is no usable energy in water. To make enough hydrogen to generate one kJ of energy you need to expend AT LEAST one kJ of energy electrolysing water (usually more because no machine is perfectly efficient).
The energy put out by an alternator ultimately comes from the fuel used to run the engine (whether gasoline or hydrogen) and is a fraction of the energy needed to move the car, therefore cannot electrolyse sufficient hydrogen to allow the car to run.
bertrand686 10 months ago
but you could put smaller more efficient engines into a car running a hybrid like he did. I put a hydrogen generator in my geo metro lsi, 40 mpg average before hho and almost 75 after...yeah I think that water power is completely possible as something to offset the amount of carbon fuels we use.
bigdaddy0522 9 months ago
@onlyinthewest1 The point is that there is little or no usable energy in the water molecule. To make a usable fuel you have to put in exactly the same energy (in theory) that you will eventually derive from burning the hydrogen or using it in a fuel cell. In practice no machine is perfectly efficient, so you actually have to put in MORE energy than you will eventually get out of the hydrogen fuel.
bertrand686 10 months ago
@bertrand686 ~ Uh... you need to delete one of your almost identical statements here. But, I'd delete them both and be really embarrassed that I made them public. And, fyi, the Brown's Gas produced is both hydrogen and oxygen. And, parroting the establishment's propaganda won't make overunity a myth. All man's machines could be water powered now, if it weren't for closed minds & the Khazarian Zionists (non-jews) who endebted us, collapsed the global economy and are now forclosing on Earth.
stopdemockery 10 months ago
@stopdemockery Sorry mate, it's not "establishment propaganda", it's the science of thermodynamics. What's embarrassing is lacking a basic understanding of physics and chemistry, but still somehow feeling qualified to comment on this kind of technology.
Having an open mind is good, but you have to be careful your brain doesn't fall out.
bertrand686 9 months ago
@bertrand686 Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to finally bring that up. The masses love to jump to this, "Amg! The whole world's trying to screw me!" without ever considered the basic chemistry and physics of why we depend on things like oil. The answer is because they are cheap. I totally agree we should be looking for other sources fuel, but we're not using oil exclusively to line the pockets of the Arabs
Zink575 9 months ago
@bertrand686 you must be a scientist. If you are not, then take this into consideration. Harmonic resonance (sound waves) will create sufficient HHO. You do know that sound waves can kill. It can shatter bones and internal organs. It can also be used to heal. If you continue to shill for the oil conglomerates, you will share in their fate.
kmoney37 9 months ago
@kmoney37 That sounds a bit like a threat. Yes, I am a scientist, and I don't “shill” for anyone. Every decent person wants cleaner, cheaper fuels, and electric and hydrogen fuel cell cars are promising technologies. But water is not a fuel. HHO may slightly increase fuel efficiency, but it's a tricky job even for engineers, so a home-made kit just won't work. And harmonic resonance is irrelevant. Check out "The truth about water-powered cars" at popularmechanics
bertrand686 9 months ago
@bertrand686 You mention Popular Mechanics' "truth about water-powered cars", which for those who believe in a "conspiracy" of new world oligarchy being a rich vs poor system, would say that message is sponsored by (Hearst Corp) a private wealthy media conglomerate (read: thought/perception controllers) who clearly do not have an overall benevolent agenda.
Peace Love Understanding
moktail 9 months ago
@moktail For me, the "Popular Mechanics" article is just the tip of an iceberg of scientific evidence and theory that all indicates that electrolysing water requires a minimum of 242 kj to produce a mole of hydrogen gas. A grainy Youtube video cannot be counter-evidence for this.
You have to ask yourself: What is more likely? Either every scientist in the world is also in on the conspiracy, or this one guy is making extravagant claims for whatever reason.
bertrand686 8 months ago
@bertrand686, I agree.
1971SuperLead 8 months ago
@onlyinthewest1 oh you mean sodium hydroxide? as an electrolyte? ya thats works almost as good as potassium hydroxide.
Me102288 10 months ago
Browns Gas.
DonutKing111 10 months ago
@Mrsheytun it is free.. water is free, and hho is 100x more combustable.. meaning the engine required to turn the electric generate can be 4x smaller. Exactly what I'm doing... 1.5 litre per minute is enough to run a 3.5 horse lawnmower engine @ 800 rpm, engine turns a permanent magnet alternator. input 12v @15 amps (180watts), output 1800 watts (24volt x 80amp) scale it up, think I could use a smaller engine actually..
Me102288 10 months ago
not paying for gas is going to save us all not hurt us. free enrgy isnt going to hurt us it is going to save us, when one area fizzles out other areas grow, just what area do we want to grow? truth or lies of needing oil?
mcgriddles4u 10 months ago
Why.....why must they go to the gov. and dealers with something like this..why must they go to the people that will exploit this to only make a huge profit out of it. They will start building these cars and they will cost a fortune for any average american to purchase.
nachoman104 10 months ago
IMPORTANT! This car runs on hydrogen made from water and ELECTRICITY! The electricity still has to be produced by coal or nuclear powerstations and costs money. We still don't produce anywhere near enough electricity from renewable sources for this to be considered a "clean" technology.
Hopefully one day we will, but for now lets keep positive developments like this one in the proper perspective.
bertrand686 10 months ago
ehh!! 666 comments!
EthernalExhile 10 months ago
when are people gonna stop trying to make a profit on this, dont get with car manufactures and def not the govt. For god sakes, change the world for the better, be fucking original and give the information to everyone so we can retrofit our cars and show big oil we dont need them anymore.
solarcell2011 10 months ago 31
@solarcell2011 okie dokie, this is not his tecknology its been know for almost 200 years. electrolysis splits the hydrogen and oxygen from water, hho is very flammable, like gasoline, propane., natural gas, etc.. all of the gas fuels can be used in any combustion engine or torch, or anything any other fuel does.. Its not much of a secret nowadays... combustable fuels work in combustion eniges, ha, go fig.... lookup the USA patent: BROWN'S GAS.
Me102288 10 months ago
@Me102288 Why are you telling me about hydrogen? i know how its made, ive made it. What you typed in response to me makes no sense, i think you clicked on the wrong person, re read what i posted and youll see.
HappyJackProduction1 10 months ago
@HappyJackProduction1 probably misclick ya.
Me102288 10 months ago
@solarcell2011 Solarcell2011 is the smartest person online.
phiveson 7 months ago
HAHAH THE US GOVERNMENT!!! they would just take the idea and probably kill the guy. the dude that came out with that shit before got his car stolen and got poisoned. Look into it.
MisterPeetBull 11 months ago
@MisterPeetBull or pay him off and make the whole thing disappear.
Me102288 10 months ago
Those who state that water power will use as much power as it creates are right, however they are missing their mark. The real point is that we can greatly reduce emissions and dependence on foreign sources of oil. Power plants are many more times efficient at converting oil into power than any automobile could be, and they are also better at reducing or even negating emissions into our environment.
aceallaigh 11 months ago
Once again Fox "news" completely misses the mark... Electrolyzing water into HHO is nothing new, nor is burning the resulting gas in order to power an automobile or a torch. The problems with using HHO for an automobile, however, are enormous. First off, a gas takes up a lot of space, must be highly pressurized, and is extremely unsafe. Second, it's literally impossible to get more energy out of it than you use to create it. The car doesn't run on water. The car runs on lots of electricity.
iteration2 1 year ago
HHOO comes from what? from water? HOW? using electricity? :))) yes, since everyone knows electricity comes for free, it is totally great technology
MuF123 1 year ago
haha fox news is full of gullible retards
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HorizonDelta 1 year ago
This is Brown's gas. It's been around for awhile
frankster47 1 year ago
many died of an inventor (Hungary 1992) :(
ossyni 1 year ago
watch out Mr cline thay killed stan myers to stiffle this in 98
dirtbagmofo 1 year ago
@dirtbagmofo exactly
ecotts 1 year ago
he did not invent it, stanley Meyers did, and the Zionist bank owners poisoned him!
911Truthseekers3 1 year ago
The only way for the world to benefit from this is not to take patent on it but to really f@&k up for the people who sit with the control/power and put it on Internet for all to make so everybody have free energy. If you keep it for your self and want to make sh!t load of money you may end up dead. Maybe you f@&k up the worlds economy but you give something for your next generation to follow up.
gunsmoke67 1 year ago 22
@gunsmoke67 I couldn’t agree more with you, if one day I invent I new technologies like this, I will never try to sell it and patent it. It’s a fact that, there are people with a lot of power and agent that get info around the world and its will only be a matter of days for them to shut you down. The best thing to do is get a couple of trusted people with you and spread a video and PDF files all over the internet that explain the “how to” and that’s it’s, your job’s done on earth.
Ec0topia 1 year ago
@Ec0topia You're right the days of making money from something are over. It's about freeing our society from the clutches of these corporate & banking cartels that have used money to enslave us all. I have learnt some things that make me shudder. We have been tricked into perpetuating a system run by devious scum bags. Money is worthless, it is the people, the technicians that are of value & drive us forward.... CONT
danz177 1 year ago
@Ec0topia CONT... Money is the tools used to conquer, we now are being forced to share our resources and ideas to save ourselves from ourselves. It is the only way forward. It makes me feel good to see people continuing to refine Mr Meyers invention, soon we will be free from these tyrants and be able to follow our own path, sharing all our resources outside the system we live in today.
danz177 1 year ago
@gunsmoke67
Relatively speaking, I actually don't think it would screw the economy up much to impliment energy sources like this globally. A huge reason why we need the amount of money in today's economy to run is because of our high cost of living. If there were enough free, or close to free, energy sources out there, the cost of living for most people would drop so dramatically that a huge drop in the economy wouldn't hurt much because life in general would run much more efficiently.
tokinblckgie 8 months ago
Feels only slightly warm to the touch? Seriously? LOL.
"No other gas will do that". Come on. What a load of crap.
somedudeinva 1 year ago
this is so F@$% sad, hoe someone else can take credit for somebody else work, a Filipino invented first. ... this world is so F#@% up....
christianuep 1 year ago
Stan Meyers first patented this in the 80's. This guy is merely is simply a thief who restated previous patents... do a search for Stan Meyers on the net. This moron invented nothing.
magnamino 1 year ago
STAN meyers first patented this in the 80's... this guy didn't event shit
magnamino 1 year ago
have you seen it in actual.. you keep saying its not real but did you seen it demonstrate in front of you
cradle00 1 year ago
piss n go car
secreteagent007 1 year ago
lol...the us government...no wonder this never came out.
they make too much money from the oil giants.
right now a safer cleaner planet does not pay as well as a multi trilion dollart oil giant.
alextheromanian 1 year ago
not like we have alot of water to waste only if we use sea water...
nubserver 1 year ago
the first guy discover this is a filipino in 80's but our gov't is ignoring this till now!
watta shame!!!
cradle00 1 year ago
@cradle00 bro....dapat seguro may magsabi ding sira ulo ang nag inbemto nito...gaya ng ginawa ng gobyerno natin sa original pinoy imbentor nito.....kakainis sistema ng gobyerno natin bro.....
PrinceArt77 1 year ago
@PrinceArt77 pre me ungas n dayuhan A1mint ang id nya and he keep saying its impossible n magawa yan at nkikipag talo p skin till now!
cradle00 1 year ago
hmmm 4 years later and what do you know... no water engines... maybe because the government wont allow anyone to make these commercial..and if someone tries to .. they get killed or "mysteriously vanishes"...
olson5252 1 year ago
@olson5252 i agree! our government here in philippines didnt support that invention too we also have an inventor that discover this but they ignored him.
cradle00 1 year ago
@olson5252
Hmmmm....nobody vanishes after inventing a water engine, there just isn't any such thing, OK?
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo @ American inventors, like this guy, were MURDERED. They were trying to go ahead with this invention and they get stopped at every turn. One was POISONED (proven) and this guy had an "accident". This technology is being suppressed, Military uses this technology but will not allow it to be given to the masses. It would wipe out Taxes made off gas and the Luciferian system would collapse, the NEW world is coming and Lucifer will be wiped away. Are you ready?
blite13 1 year ago
@blite13
Dude your "facts" are all bullshit please educate yourself.
Stan Myers was a con man, his invention was bullshit, didn't work.
TheJomogogo 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo Just because jomogogo says so, doesn't mean it is the truth. I think you are the con man.
blite13 1 year ago
@TheJomogogo whats you proof dimwit prove it by demonstration not by big mouth those ppol demonstrate it in video and all saying its not just by words.
cradle00 1 year ago
Stanley Meyers is the inventor!! Not you fool!! He was killed, Nice try, Trying to take credit of another person!!
CurtsBlackberry 1 year ago
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oscar2oo9 1 year ago
@oscar2oo9 You should probably stop "laghing" so you can learn how to spell laughing. >.>
ZenrathGoesRawr 1 year ago
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oscar2oo9 1 year ago
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donnie6989 1 year ago