What percentage of the water is contaminated in areas that people hike and camp?
I don't live in a "developing country" so that stat doesn't apply to me. Where are those millions of people dieing? How many are dieing in Canada and the U.S.
a interesting tip for water filters with exposed outlets take a piece of tubing, long enough to cover the outlet nipple and close one end off some how and when you remove your output hose cover your output nipple so it does not get contaminated, , and it acts as a guide to what nipple is the output.
Um, yeah, isn't text graphics done in the confines of a warm room with a computer and editing sotware easier than making a fuckton of laminated prinited paper graphics placed carefully in the snow in freezing weather? DAMN girl, no wonder your all red and winded.
I totally agree with your opening statements. People do some pretty stupid stuff sometimes just trying to ‘man it up’. I don’t hike in cold weather or snow so I always carry my water filter, even if I’m out for just the day, and spare chlorine dioxide tabs as a backup. You just never know when a simple day hike might turn into a multi-day survival situation.
Can anyone link me to a peer reviewed study (should include double blind tests - and locations where these tests were conducted) of the statements in this vid please? A lot of this seems to be carefully crafted propaganda to get you scared and force you into buying some 'survival' product or other. Having a family with long SAS experience i just find this (and many other utube vids) laughably shallow and skewed in their logic ...oh wait, this is youtube isn't it *slaps head* carry on!
I've never done it myself, I had just read that you should do that, but I think your right - it does seem a bit of overkill. The main turn off to me is that I wouldn't want hot water all the time, unless perhaps I was camping in real cold conditions. Anyways, to each their own.
The conditions you show yourself in you better have a good stove and PLENTY of fuel to melt snow and boil water anyway. To carry a water filter would just be a redundant system and unnecessary weight in your pack. Also I feel you would have looked more comfortable making this video with a hot cup of pine needle tea in you hand. ; )
@nlightened2 It takes a lot of fuel to bring water to a boil and a lot of time. You're suppose to boil for about 10-15 minutes and you got to bring it to a boil first. In all, that could be up to 30 minutes, depending on elevation and temperature. Boiling all of your water, especially if you're on a multi-day trek, is just not practical. Don't get me wrong, tea is great, but I'd save it for the end of the day or at the beginning of it.
@colorrot It does not take A LOT of fuel to boil water at all but a minimum amount at best. If you are boiling water for 10-15 minutes the question is why? Snow is basically distilled water. Have you ever eaten fresh snow? Most people have and lived through it without consequence. You really only need to melt fresh snow. Bringing it to a boil is only a precaution. To boil it for 10-15 minutes is bordering paranoia and a wasteful use of a limited resource..
@nlightened2 Also a gravity pump can provide clean water to a large group of people in minutes, whereas boiling the same amount of water takes exponential long the more people you have.
Just got a Travel Tap micro purification filter water bottle. First i would poor though a cloth into bottle to remove dirt then I would boil for 3 mintues then filter or if i dont have time to boil i can use chlorine tablet then filter. In the winter i would not bother with the a filter i would just boil the water or use chlorine to treat. I met some one who will ill for 6 months after drinking mountain water from a stream with out treating...
@pshychopat. Don't take everything you see on TV as gospel. Bear Grylls has said in several interviews that he has gotten sick from drinking unclean water.
Well, i can tell you, you should check man vs wild, a man survives jsut with a knife and a flint, in places like jungle, sahara, hymalaya, and he tells you can drink water that looks clen and is flowing, he served bitish SAS , i think he knows better ;p
filter anyways.. it's a fact boiling cannot always kill all things like parasites, germs. even anti-septic professional soap will only kill most germs. filter anyways. a coffee filter or bandana etc is not your main filter but it is better then nothing, use as a spare and/or in a tiny back-up survival kit. but boiling also is good though.
When you say "filter", is that literally or could it be boiling. I boil all water before I drink it, but I don't own any of these fancy high tech filtering systems. Loved the plastic notes in the video, it made it all more intuitive.
from everything I have read and learned from different video's is as long as the water is not mirky or with a lot of floating dirt, as long as u boil it for a while it should be safe. Boiling is the safest way to go as far as I know.
Problem is then by useing Iodine or Chlorine dioxide and other ingrediants to kill what is in the water -what are the long term effects of such chemical use in the body? Nobody knows? But if you look at what how these chemicals are used its scary ! MSR with ceramic filter has served me well from water contamination.Look for the best source of (cleanest) water around -preferably not stagnant either. Reccomend aluminum Canteene in snow so you can thaw out water over fire and boil.
@FREEDOMFIGHTER1967 Excessive iodine intake may be associated with an increased incidence of thyroid cancer. Long-term risks of consuming chlorinated water include excessive free radical formation, which accelerates aging, increases vulnerability to genetic mutation and cancer development, hinders cholesterol metabolism, and promotes hardening of arteries.
All in all, it's not very good and I would avoid it unless you feel like you have questionable water.
I would think boiling should always be your 1st choice before filtering (double kill em). Problem with filters is I have no confidence with them even if they may work especially the straw filters. I mean who would bend over and drink out of a pond with a straw filter as their primary filtering system?
i know water taste is important ...i been trying to get the plastic new taste out of this dam camelback...but if you only boil thier is possiblity to get sick off the dead things you boiled ? and dirt ?
Great info, but there is no need for filters in the winter when we have a ton of snow out there:o) Plus using a water filter in sub zero temps is just looking for problems. :o) You could never dry it out enough or fast enough to prevent damage to the filter. A definite must for summer though Good review :o)
How effective are homemade filters using a plastic bottle charcoal and leafs stuff inside.Will they stop all the above that you talked about. thanks for info.
There are a few options in filters for homemade water filters. Granulated activated charcoal (GAC) is the most common type of filter. Charcoal particles tightly packed together create a network to catch unwanted particles such as lead and other contaminates.
So in answer to your question a bottle with granulated carbon you would be better off than not using one at all but it only take one protozoa to slip through.
Oops, I meant 2 (two) microns, not 0.2. I don't know of a filter that is more effective than that. But for serious concerns, definitely consider the Steripen - it kills everything she mentions in this video.
I agree wholeheartedly that purification is vital - in NY it's a given that lake/stream water will have giardia. On my canoe trips, I always use a .2 micron filter or better. When winter camping, however, I am never drinking water from a liquid source - it's always from snow or ice which has formed from precipitation or ambient moisture, and won't have any pathogens.
No, it's that the snow is simply precipitation - condensed water from the atmosphere. There are no pathogens in it. As long as the snow you find is undisturbed, it will be clean water.
Note that ice from the top of a frozen body of water may not be safe, but icicles from a tree will be.
the MSR EX does not remove viruses according to MSR... do you boil the water after running it through the filter? Thanks
Chronix74 1 month ago
What percentage of the water is contaminated in areas that people hike and camp?
I don't live in a "developing country" so that stat doesn't apply to me. Where are those millions of people dieing? How many are dieing in Canada and the U.S.
Fearmongering to sell product is wrong.
Tell the truth.
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1313lakers 5 months ago
I like how you went in to the feezing cold and did this video. You even have little laminated pieces of paper to show. Awe, you're so cute. :)
Photo314159 7 months ago
Cold?
THStRuXsTiCk 8 months ago
a interesting tip for water filters with exposed outlets take a piece of tubing, long enough to cover the outlet nipple and close one end off some how and when you remove your output hose cover your output nipple so it does not get contaminated, , and it acts as a guide to what nipple is the output.
blackbat1339 8 months ago
Um, yeah, isn't text graphics done in the confines of a warm room with a computer and editing sotware easier than making a fuckton of laminated prinited paper graphics placed carefully in the snow in freezing weather? DAMN girl, no wonder your all red and winded.
XsweetxsacraficeX 11 months ago
I totally agree with your opening statements. People do some pretty stupid stuff sometimes just trying to ‘man it up’. I don’t hike in cold weather or snow so I always carry my water filter, even if I’m out for just the day, and spare chlorine dioxide tabs as a backup. You just never know when a simple day hike might turn into a multi-day survival situation.
Woodenarrows 11 months ago
Can anyone link me to a peer reviewed study (should include double blind tests - and locations where these tests were conducted) of the statements in this vid please? A lot of this seems to be carefully crafted propaganda to get you scared and force you into buying some 'survival' product or other. Having a family with long SAS experience i just find this (and many other utube vids) laughably shallow and skewed in their logic ...oh wait, this is youtube isn't it *slaps head* carry on!
Moodymongul 1 year ago
all her info is true... BUT... thats in USED water next to their homes... this is in the mountains.. with FRESH water..
Zaharkl 1 year ago
so, would it be best, after filtering, to boil or use UV / iodine / chlorine?
to get those viruses.
deleriumman 1 year ago
that is one cold girl...
bonesword98 1 year ago
I've never done it myself, I had just read that you should do that, but I think your right - it does seem a bit of overkill. The main turn off to me is that I wouldn't want hot water all the time, unless perhaps I was camping in real cold conditions. Anyways, to each their own.
colorrot 1 year ago
The conditions you show yourself in you better have a good stove and PLENTY of fuel to melt snow and boil water anyway. To carry a water filter would just be a redundant system and unnecessary weight in your pack. Also I feel you would have looked more comfortable making this video with a hot cup of pine needle tea in you hand. ; )
nlightened2 1 year ago
@nlightened2 It takes a lot of fuel to bring water to a boil and a lot of time. You're suppose to boil for about 10-15 minutes and you got to bring it to a boil first. In all, that could be up to 30 minutes, depending on elevation and temperature. Boiling all of your water, especially if you're on a multi-day trek, is just not practical. Don't get me wrong, tea is great, but I'd save it for the end of the day or at the beginning of it.
colorrot 1 year ago
@colorrot It does not take A LOT of fuel to boil water at all but a minimum amount at best. If you are boiling water for 10-15 minutes the question is why? Snow is basically distilled water. Have you ever eaten fresh snow? Most people have and lived through it without consequence. You really only need to melt fresh snow. Bringing it to a boil is only a precaution. To boil it for 10-15 minutes is bordering paranoia and a wasteful use of a limited resource..
nlightened2 1 year ago
@nlightened2 Also a gravity pump can provide clean water to a large group of people in minutes, whereas boiling the same amount of water takes exponential long the more people you have.
colorrot 1 year ago
@colorrot How well does that gravity pump work on snow?
nlightened2 1 year ago
93%!!! Damn thats allot!
Lucky for me i live in Sweden then =) No big need for filtration here.
Sarano 1 year ago
@Sarano There's a lot more of world outside of Sweden. Go travel! :)
colorrot 1 year ago
Just got a Travel Tap micro purification filter water bottle. First i would poor though a cloth into bottle to remove dirt then I would boil for 3 mintues then filter or if i dont have time to boil i can use chlorine tablet then filter. In the winter i would not bother with the a filter i would just boil the water or use chlorine to treat. I met some one who will ill for 6 months after drinking mountain water from a stream with out treating...
experimentalists 1 year ago
Is boiling the most effective and how long do you boil it?
jtdrummer2112 1 year ago
@pshychopat. Don't take everything you see on TV as gospel. Bear Grylls has said in several interviews that he has gotten sick from drinking unclean water.
tuxinduluth 1 year ago
Well, i can tell you, you should check man vs wild, a man survives jsut with a knife and a flint, in places like jungle, sahara, hymalaya, and he tells you can drink water that looks clen and is flowing, he served bitish SAS , i think he knows better ;p
pshychopat 1 year ago
filter anyways.. it's a fact boiling cannot always kill all things like parasites, germs. even anti-septic professional soap will only kill most germs. filter anyways. a coffee filter or bandana etc is not your main filter but it is better then nothing, use as a spare and/or in a tiny back-up survival kit. but boiling also is good though.
M3T4LSTORM 1 year ago
When you say "filter", is that literally or could it be boiling. I boil all water before I drink it, but I don't own any of these fancy high tech filtering systems. Loved the plastic notes in the video, it made it all more intuitive.
Varghjarta 2 years ago
Very true info!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks.
tim3jones 2 years ago
from everything I have read and learned from different video's is as long as the water is not mirky or with a lot of floating dirt, as long as u boil it for a while it should be safe. Boiling is the safest way to go as far as I know.
RavenBlaze 2 years ago
@RavenBlaze Yeah , i do believe that boiling is pretty reliable.
Christopher711 1 year ago
Problem is then by useing Iodine or Chlorine dioxide and other ingrediants to kill what is in the water -what are the long term effects of such chemical use in the body? Nobody knows? But if you look at what how these chemicals are used its scary ! MSR with ceramic filter has served me well from water contamination.Look for the best source of (cleanest) water around -preferably not stagnant either. Reccomend aluminum Canteene in snow so you can thaw out water over fire and boil.
FREEDOMFIGHTER1967 2 years ago 3
@FREEDOMFIGHTER1967 Excessive iodine intake may be associated with an increased incidence of thyroid cancer. Long-term risks of consuming chlorinated water include excessive free radical formation, which accelerates aging, increases vulnerability to genetic mutation and cancer development, hinders cholesterol metabolism, and promotes hardening of arteries.
All in all, it's not very good and I would avoid it unless you feel like you have questionable water.
colorrot 1 year ago
your are very cute even when you r freezing id love to go out camping with you i think it be awesome always wanted to go
nightwalker2830 2 years ago
I would think boiling should always be your 1st choice before filtering (double kill em). Problem with filters is I have no confidence with them even if they may work especially the straw filters. I mean who would bend over and drink out of a pond with a straw filter as their primary filtering system?
digitalX198 2 years ago
WOW , Thank's for sharing.
SuperParve 2 years ago
i know water taste is important ...i been trying to get the plastic new taste out of this dam camelback...but if you only boil thier is possiblity to get sick off the dead things you boiled ? and dirt ?
gasdorf 2 years ago
Great info, but there is no need for filters in the winter when we have a ton of snow out there:o) Plus using a water filter in sub zero temps is just looking for problems. :o) You could never dry it out enough or fast enough to prevent damage to the filter. A definite must for summer though Good review :o)
Ggreenvideos 2 years ago 3
5/5
superfisto 2 years ago
i think i get it ? aways water filter
before UV or boil black Charcoal filter for unwanted tastes and colors ? chemical contaminates
like can you filter and purify water from rivers or is it mainly small streams run -off
after rain or snow melt?
gasdorf 2 years ago
How effective are homemade filters using a plastic bottle charcoal and leafs stuff inside.Will they stop all the above that you talked about. thanks for info.
redchevy1957 2 years ago
There are a few options in filters for homemade water filters. Granulated activated charcoal (GAC) is the most common type of filter. Charcoal particles tightly packed together create a network to catch unwanted particles such as lead and other contaminates.
So in answer to your question a bottle with granulated carbon you would be better off than not using one at all but it only take one protozoa to slip through.
PeakSurvival 2 years ago
5/5 Stars. Little hard to follow, your freezing. Don't kill yourself for us. Great info.
sweetnlow79 2 years ago
great video......nice presentation.
19ADC67 2 years ago
Oops, I meant 2 (two) microns, not 0.2. I don't know of a filter that is more effective than that. But for serious concerns, definitely consider the Steripen - it kills everything she mentions in this video.
icychap 2 years ago
I agree wholeheartedly that purification is vital - in NY it's a given that lake/stream water will have giardia. On my canoe trips, I always use a .2 micron filter or better. When winter camping, however, I am never drinking water from a liquid source - it's always from snow or ice which has formed from precipitation or ambient moisture, and won't have any pathogens.
icychap 2 years ago
Yeah because animals never die up stream.
chupamiubre 2 years ago
@icychap is it that the viruses and bacteria can't survive the cold?
Christopher711 1 year ago
No, it's that the snow is simply precipitation - condensed water from the atmosphere. There are no pathogens in it. As long as the snow you find is undisturbed, it will be clean water.
Note that ice from the top of a frozen body of water may not be safe, but icicles from a tree will be.
icychap 1 year ago
very important video thanks selica .
malc
johnjayrambo11111 2 years ago
Filter + Boil :) better to be safe
DigitalRM 2 years ago 2