Prop Joe to Vondas: Where you say you're off to again?
(I like how the Onion-domed Orthodox church comes into view in the background at that point. The Greek and Vondas are obviously off to a mob bolt hole in some ex-Soviet Republic)
As to how they're portrayed, the restaurant owner is portrayed as a guy who minds his own business and keeps his mouth shut. As for the car thief, he's portrayed as an asshole who rips Ziggy off. Ziggy calls him a "thieving Greek cunt", the Greek guy throws him out and calls him a "malaka", Ziggy comes back with a gun, he begs for his life and Ziggy blows his brains out.
From the bootleg clips you've seen on youtube, huh?
I own the all the DVDs and can tell you that pretty much the only other Greek is the guy Ziggy steals cars for and (maybe) the owner of the restaurant but he only has like one line, when Marlo gives him the briefcase and is on screen for a grand total of about 15 seconds.
His muscle are from the Ukraine (you can often hear them speaking in Russian/Ukrainain). But they're all minor characters; that's the point.
Actually they were largely a mix, some may have been Greek, some were definitely Israeli and most of the muscle appears to be Russian or from one of the regions surrounding Russia...they definitely spoke Russian either way.
@MrWarrenLO in 1922 there was a pogrom(slaughter) in turkey,neoturks against non turks mostly greeks and armenians!!!the major population of greeks immigrated back to motherland usa and latin america....so all the people had turkish citizenship(thats the reason he says im not even greek!!!in the id papers(same as the greek)thats why he understand turkish when talking to the sailor and says its not the oldways!!oldtimers hate turkish!!!his is greek for sure!!!theyre drinking ouzo tsili brand
This season was some of the finest television ever. People who didn't appreciate it just don't understand what The Wire was all about. You best stick to Boyz 'N' the Hood.
THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID AND UNREALISATIC HOW THE WORKERS SAW THE POLICE BOAT AND IMMEDIATELY THEY KEEP LOOKING AT IT LIKE THEY KNOW THEY FOUND A DEAD BODY, THATS SO STUPID AND UNREALISTIC
@NMFlyer25 How is looking unrealistic? People "rubberneck" and peak at crashes on the highway all the time, this is no different. They see the cops doing something, boss isnt around, so they stare.
@lildwayne21 Nick might have been relatively boring compared to the wilder actors, but he was one of the best characters. U might not even realize it, but Nick was you. He acts like a normal person, responds like a normal person, and feels like a normal person. Hes kind of smart but not brilliant, he gets money but hes not rich, he fights hard but hes not powerful. When u look at it that way, hes one of the most interesting characters.
Season 2 is in a strange way set before season 1: Before Baltimore became overrun with black-populated ghettos it was a city of mostly white, blue-collar workers.
@brwhizz - not at all. it happens after season one. however, a good amount of season 2 takes place on the docks at the eastern edge of baltimore at the port, where there are white neighborhoods and white blue-collar workers. that still exists today.
@iRuckiz NO Frank didnt know. Shit the Greeks didnt know until they got the phone call. Then they decided to whack Frank because he was talking to the Feds
Man, The Greek guy is so secret, I wish we could have known a little more about him, he seems very interesting, but he's a mysterious character so I guess it would be wrong to know too much about him.
P.S Spiros and Nick are my most favourite characters.
6:51-6:53: Vondas says "My name is not my name"...fast forward to the end of Season 5, when Marlo is in jail and says "My name IS my name"...Now, parallel that to Season 2, when Prop Joe was making the deal with Stringer, and told the story of Charlie Stollers.... "no cred, no street rep"...The Greeks were only interested in business, not the rep...whereas Marlo was more interested in his rep than the business...Ultimately, it was Marlo that fell..Foreshadowing at it's finest....
@MrBiggSmoove Yea you hit the nail dead on the head. Hell the Greeks didnt give a damn about a name. Just like Stollers. But on that note I think Joe told that story to Stinger in order to get him over the hump when it came to crossing Avon on giving up the towers. He knew Stringer wanted to do it, but Stinger wasnt absolutely sure at first. Joe went into that story about Stollers and ultimately convinced Stringer that giving up the towers was the right thing to do....fuck the rep.
@youngboyp True, but he did have to give up the crown, which was basically what it was all about for him. Like he said in Season 3 when talking to Vinson -
Vinson - '...prisons, and graveyards, full of boys who wore the crown...'
Marlo - '...point is they wore it...It's my turn to wear it now.'
And he may be free, but he's gonna be bored too. He can't go back to the game, and doesn't wanna get conned like Stringer.
@youngboyp Marlo lost the only thing he cared about which was his reputation. At the end when he confronts those corner boys they didnt know who he was his rep was all he cared about
Damn shame they never got a chance to catch the Greek. But then again, they probably never really had a chance. Guys like the Greek never really go to prison.
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They may still do that...Who knows if the Greeks bought into Slim Charles and Fat Face Ricks offer. Maybe the Greeks killed them and Marlo to cover their track. Season 6 anyone? :)
Russian mafia shit
Ballzdeap89 1 week ago
surprised they did not cut off his hands & head, thats how they normally roll..
TheGlyn1234 3 weeks ago
7:44 what language is that?
...15 million "tavaria"?
VickTheQuick 1 month ago
@VickTheQuick Tholaria....it's a Greek island. Obviously their codename for junk
TomthatiscalledTom 1 month ago
@VickTheQuick I meant Tholaria is a place on a Greek island. The Greek knows his geography even if it's not really Greek.
TomthatiscalledTom 1 month ago
Forget Avon and Marlo, the "Greeks" are by far the most gangster motherfuckers on this show.
AndersonHenderson 1 month ago
new people
tommybrown187 2 months ago in playlist Liked videos
Finding out Frank put up a fight during his killing made me smile. Good ole Frank went down swingin'!!!!
honorabledbc 2 months ago
frank dying blew my fuckin mind
macmula11 3 months ago 3
Of all the deaths on The Wire, Frank Sobotka's gutted me the most.
He was a noble, tragic figure that did not get what he deserved.
Brilliant story line.
cygnalsux1 4 months ago 4
@cygnalsux1 I donno man his death was not as cold blooded as Wallace's death. Bodie and Poot were his best friends.
KevinOrrell 4 months ago
Prop Joe to Vondas: Where you say you're off to again?
(I like how the Onion-domed Orthodox church comes into view in the background at that point. The Greek and Vondas are obviously off to a mob bolt hole in some ex-Soviet Republic)
TomthatiscalledTom 5 months ago
the greeks were SERIOUS, they had ukrainian hitmen with silencers waiting outside for nick.
D39MUSIC 6 months ago
It's funny. I live in Hampton Roads and was pleased to hear them mention it in this series. Kinda forgot how close VA is to MD.
danielhiryu 6 months ago
@newsakafias
As to how they're portrayed, the restaurant owner is portrayed as a guy who minds his own business and keeps his mouth shut. As for the car thief, he's portrayed as an asshole who rips Ziggy off. Ziggy calls him a "thieving Greek cunt", the Greek guy throws him out and calls him a "malaka", Ziggy comes back with a gun, he begs for his life and Ziggy blows his brains out.
saisumimen 6 months ago
@newsakafias
From the bootleg clips you've seen on youtube, huh?
I own the all the DVDs and can tell you that pretty much the only other Greek is the guy Ziggy steals cars for and (maybe) the owner of the restaurant but he only has like one line, when Marlo gives him the briefcase and is on screen for a grand total of about 15 seconds.
His muscle are from the Ukraine (you can often hear them speaking in Russian/Ukrainain). But they're all minor characters; that's the point.
saisumimen 6 months ago
@newsakafias
Actually, "the Greek" isn't really Greek and he even says it himself. He's actually Armenian.
saisumimen 6 months ago
What was the song he played?
sharronlove222 9 months ago
What are they then? Greek, Russian, Ukraine.
WHERESAMERICAGOIN 9 months ago
@WHERESAMERICAGOIN israel
liljoker123456 8 months ago
prop joe kinda played himself at the end there
Rickthomas7 10 months ago
U could of knocked me over with a feather when he said "im not even greek"
Mattraction513 10 months ago
Drug kingpins come and go, but the real king stays the king
holdemehha 10 months ago 2
they were jews not greeks. just another example of how the jews control everything.
tjr0ver 11 months ago
@tjr0ver
Actually they were largely a mix, some may have been Greek, some were definitely Israeli and most of the muscle appears to be Russian or from one of the regions surrounding Russia...they definitely spoke Russian either way.
MrWarrenLO 10 months ago 4
@MrWarrenLO in 1922 there was a pogrom(slaughter) in turkey,neoturks against non turks mostly greeks and armenians!!!the major population of greeks immigrated back to motherland usa and latin america....so all the people had turkish citizenship(thats the reason he says im not even greek!!!in the id papers(same as the greek)thats why he understand turkish when talking to the sailor and says its not the oldways!!oldtimers hate turkish!!!his is greek for sure!!!theyre drinking ouzo tsili brand
fidias12 9 months ago
@MrWarrenLO the muscle are ukranians and balcan ethnicities for sure but the kingpins are greek!!!!!youre right!!!
fidias12 9 months ago
This season was some of the finest television ever. People who didn't appreciate it just don't understand what The Wire was all about. You best stick to Boyz 'N' the Hood.
CertifiedGooner729 11 months ago 8
i lav it
MikefromMadrid 1 year ago
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Somebody know the name of the sound of the intro in the radio ?!
educkerwebdesign 1 year ago
Marlo's name is his name. But Vondas's name is not his name. The power of the unknown outweighs the known.
DocSkribblez 1 year ago 3
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il y a 6 jours
Somebody know the name of the sound of the intro in the radio ?!
educkerwebdesign 1 year ago
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educkerwebdesign 1 year ago
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educkerwebdesign 1 year ago
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educkerwebdesign 1 year ago
joe's funeral march started at the end of this clip here if you listen
kaviraj 1 year ago
ON MY DOCKS THIS HAPPENED...!
FallenFromGrace90 1 year ago
why does the greek and his people still talk in english when they're on their own?
mufc187 1 year ago
@mufc187 That's because they aren't greek lol. Identities upon identities...
MrElucidate 1 year ago
@MrElucidate yeah, but wherever they're from they aren't english speakers. so why do they talk in english to each other?
mufc187 1 year ago
I like how he just blows his smoke and walks away. This guy can act his behind off.
insightforlife 1 year ago
The intro to this clip sounds like one off the game Grand Theft Auto. They should make an XBox game for the wire.
insightforlife 1 year ago
his impression when joe asks him "where did you say you were going" is priceless. like "wtf did you just ask me??"
immortalass 1 year ago
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THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID AND UNREALISATIC HOW THE WORKERS SAW THE POLICE BOAT AND IMMEDIATELY THEY KEEP LOOKING AT IT LIKE THEY KNOW THEY FOUND A DEAD BODY, THATS SO STUPID AND UNREALISTIC
NMFlyer25 1 year ago
@NMFlyer25 How is looking unrealistic? People "rubberneck" and peak at crashes on the highway all the time, this is no different. They see the cops doing something, boss isnt around, so they stare.
GAthug 1 year ago
BTW is that an Orthodox church there at 9:40?
Zwartekaka 1 year ago
@Zwartekaka
Yes. Ukrainian Orthodox on Eastern Ave.
seacuc 1 year ago
I like how good the acting of that guy that plays Vondas is at the end when he talks with Prop.Joe. How he moves his feet everything...
Zwartekaka 1 year ago
damn this shows on point the liquor they were drinkin was even greek
ekim786 1 year ago
There is something i dont understand
where did the greeks get the cocaine from?
did they make it themselves?
MikefromMadrid 1 year ago
@MikefromMadrid They imported heroin not cocaine.
ArtVandelay1983 1 year ago
@ArtVandelay1983
if they imported it why did they need all those chemicals?
MikefromMadrid 1 year ago
Nick will probably go down as one of the most boring characters in the history of the Wire
lildwayne21 1 year ago
@lildwayne21 Nick might have been relatively boring compared to the wilder actors, but he was one of the best characters. U might not even realize it, but Nick was you. He acts like a normal person, responds like a normal person, and feels like a normal person. Hes kind of smart but not brilliant, he gets money but hes not rich, he fights hard but hes not powerful. When u look at it that way, hes one of the most interesting characters.
EZPimpn7 1 year ago 11
@EZPimpn7 True, he's an everyday dude
lildwayne21 1 year ago
MrBiggSmoove
Good observations!
gynronin 2 years ago
Season 2 is in a strange way set before season 1: Before Baltimore became overrun with black-populated ghettos it was a city of mostly white, blue-collar workers.
brwhizz 2 years ago
@brwhizz - not at all. it happens after season one. however, a good amount of season 2 takes place on the docks at the eastern edge of baltimore at the port, where there are white neighborhoods and white blue-collar workers. that still exists today.
psimon1234 2 years ago
yes one of the greatest shoes ever
83getitin 1 year ago
frank sobotka was a brilliant and heartbreaking character. season 2 really deserved more respect.
cruffrider5 2 years ago 29
is there no escaping that goddamn ice cream truck music ITS FUCKING EVERYWHERE
TheRealestEver 2 years ago 6
"Not just Sergei, I miss Frank too" - Vondas
poor Vondas
mRipX 2 years ago
did frank know he was going to die?
iRuckiz 2 years ago
@iRuckiz NO Frank didnt know. Shit the Greeks didnt know until they got the phone call. Then they decided to whack Frank because he was talking to the Feds
ratchettcitynigga 2 years ago
Man, The Greek guy is so secret, I wish we could have known a little more about him, he seems very interesting, but he's a mysterious character so I guess it would be wrong to know too much about him.
P.S Spiros and Nick are my most favourite characters.
SEAKNIGHTRC 2 years ago
6:51-6:53: Vondas says "My name is not my name"...fast forward to the end of Season 5, when Marlo is in jail and says "My name IS my name"...Now, parallel that to Season 2, when Prop Joe was making the deal with Stringer, and told the story of Charlie Stollers.... "no cred, no street rep"...The Greeks were only interested in business, not the rep...whereas Marlo was more interested in his rep than the business...Ultimately, it was Marlo that fell..Foreshadowing at it's finest....
MrBiggSmoove 2 years ago 17
Nice!
xxgodjrxx 2 years ago
@MrBiggSmoove Yea you hit the nail dead on the head. Hell the Greeks didnt give a damn about a name. Just like Stollers. But on that note I think Joe told that story to Stinger in order to get him over the hump when it came to crossing Avon on giving up the towers. He knew Stringer wanted to do it, but Stinger wasnt absolutely sure at first. Joe went into that story about Stollers and ultimately convinced Stringer that giving up the towers was the right thing to do....fuck the rep.
ratchettcitynigga 2 years ago
You pretty much defined even better what I was thinking. LOL
danielhiryu 2 years ago
marlo didnt fall he's a rich free man
youngboyp 2 years ago
@youngboyp True, but he did have to give up the crown, which was basically what it was all about for him. Like he said in Season 3 when talking to Vinson -
Vinson - '...prisons, and graveyards, full of boys who wore the crown...'
Marlo - '...point is they wore it...It's my turn to wear it now.'
And he may be free, but he's gonna be bored too. He can't go back to the game, and doesn't wanna get conned like Stringer.
Anyway, The Wire = the best tv show ever.
slantedeskimo 2 years ago
One of the best shows ever
83getitin 1 year ago
@youngboyp Marlo lost the only thing he cared about which was his reputation. At the end when he confronts those corner boys they didnt know who he was his rep was all he cared about
Sneezlebob 1 year ago
"Lambs go to slaughter. A man, he learns when to walk away". - Greek.
Great acting!!!
lildwayne21 1 year ago
6:17 Vladimir Kozlov answers the door.
jmagic1986 2 years ago
thats what i thought! haha
RawDLuxx 2 years ago
I like to imagine that in 15 years, Jimmy comes back from being buried like Lester and finally gets Vondas
banduril 2 years ago
jimmy quit/was fired from the police department
gauchebag 2 years ago
Compare "...my name is not my name." to "My name is my name!"
No wonder the Greeks ruled the trade. People like Marlo have serious emotional issues.
danielhiryu 2 years ago 9
lmao at how Vondas bitched Prop Joe @ the end
kevin30950 2 years ago 5
Don't cross the Greeks
lildwayne21 2 years ago
What a tragedy
lildwayne21 2 years ago
At 4:00 through 4:07, when the worker's surround and look unto Sobotka's body, it's...it's amazingly poetic. A King dead on his throne.
This is genius. Oh my God.
MindsEyeFunk 2 years ago 10
completly agree with you. His body appears in the place by which he gave his life.
memimgi 2 years ago
i think the big dude who is the greeks bodyguard is in the wwe now. krozlov or something
RawDLuxx 2 years ago
serge? no he's not
gauchebag 2 years ago
That man in the Grey tan is so cool.
SEAKNIGHTRC 2 years ago
Damn shame they never got a chance to catch the Greek. But then again, they probably never really had a chance. Guys like the Greek never really go to prison.
groffo12345 2 years ago 10
I hear that talk about the Greeks running thangs and I agree to the utmost. But when Sergei was in prison his boss was Avon.
Avon was the king of the streets and the pen, Marlo screwed things up on them streets.
Raw0329 2 years ago 3
Im not even Greek ..lol
killahkoreah 3 years ago
ucrain
buggeazy 2 years ago
Maybe the Greek just ate a bad lamb once...
hhifdeywant 3 years ago
Lambs go to the slaughter. But a man knows when to walk away. DEEP!
ApostleJD2 3 years ago 6
one of the best scene on The wire.
memimgi 3 years ago
The Greeks ruled the Wire.
jagarcia1 3 years ago 7
True dat
lildwayne21 3 years ago
I wish the Greeks would of cut off Marlo's head and throw him in the water, that would of made the last season of The Wire all the better
aharris82 3 years ago 34
best ending ever: mcnulty fishing marlo's corpse outta the harbor
raskell90 3 years ago 13
That's not what it's about, man.
hhifdeywant 3 years ago 4
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They may still do that...Who knows if the Greeks bought into Slim Charles and Fat Face Ricks offer. Maybe the Greeks killed them and Marlo to cover their track. Season 6 anyone? :)
groffo12345 2 years ago
youre an idiot!!!!
slickshapiro 2 years ago 2
@aharris82 That would have been gay. Marlo was the shit
SrBeardsly 1 year ago
@aharris82
Life ain't fair, I think that's what they were trying to convey by having Marlo as a free man at the end of the show.
thestranger4812 6 months ago 3
Anyone know the name of the song in the very beginning?
GerrySamudio 3 years ago
"he knows my name but my name is not my name." - vondas. this is why the greeks will always be king.
membersonly25 3 years ago 31
verses
"My name is my name!" - Marlo season 5
ConcernedCitizen9 3 years ago 6
good point CC9
klined 3 years ago
@membersonly25 Yep, Marlo's name is his name, yet Vondas' name is not his name proves that the unknowns are indeed more powerful than the knowns.
DocSkribblez 1 year ago 4
"...of course, i'm not even greek." lol
kol25 3 years ago 9
I love this scene.
kol25 3 years ago 5