On the Edge with Max Keiser - 21 August - (1/3)

[craigenputtock]

We do not want socialized medicine! Get rid of Social Security and Medicare--the government should not be helping its citizens! If you're too old to work or too poor to go to a hospital, then drop dead! We don't need you. This is America the land of the FREE and if we want a dog eat dog country, then we should have it and get what we deserve! Leave us alone! God Bless America!

[louis12346]

instead of Tobin tax on trades, fund Obamacare with derivatives toxic waste

[XulChris]

hahahahahahahaahah The WHO? The US has the best health care IN THE WORLD! Let me repeat that... We have the *shortest* lines. The *best* medicines. And the *most sophisticated* equipment. We also give out free health care to anyone who needs it and we have the entire baby boomer generation covered for free which is the *real* reason costs are so high. In the meantime, France, rated #1 *cough* *cough* idiots who believe everything they read like global *warming* from the IPCC *cough* *cough*

[sugarpuddin88]

World Health Organization ranked the countries of the world in terms of oval health performance, and the U.S. (was) 37th In the fairness of health care, America is 54th. The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world, (The European Dream p 79 80 & NYT Nov 22, 2004). American education is the same

Soulless Insurance & Pharma Corps legally bribe politicians - See my video about avg payout between 1 to 4 million per Senator

[sugarpuddin88]

Haha!

I busted a gut laughing!

[hayesy316]

Max's entire platform is based on exposing the corruption endemic in the marriage of government and Wall Street... what makes him think the marriage of government and health care would be any different?

[infotechsailor]

I used to love Max Keiser... he is really missing the point on this shit

[soulharvest2012]

After stealing trillions from the taxpayers and giving it to Wall Street banksters, there is no reason, I repeat NO REASON, for us to assume the health care bill will do anything but benefit large corporate interests. The people will come last as always. Just more criminal bullshit from the Washington scumbag lobbyists and scumbag politicians thinly disguised as being in the public interest.

[tzankich]

I'm not in the richest 1%. I might be in the richest 80-90% but it's pretty damn easy, even though I started broke. I could be in the richest 70% without even trying.  The government just bids up the price on health care and school, too, and at the cost of our freedom and well-being. That's why, legally, they're not allowed to do it.

[bigdad06]

Educate these fools Max!!:))

[PressForFreedom]

Max, these protests started out of the Ron Paul R3volution, it is true they have been co-opted by the republican party hacks in some cases.

However the point is being missed, we don't want government health care, we also don't want corporate in the bed with government healthcare. We the people are the ones who do the work of healthcare, we don't need gov or big corp to do it. When the people start thinking of really new ways to answer the problem, perhaps Freedom will enter the vocabulary again.

[AlwaysKurtCobain]

There was an article on the hotmail homepage about "astroturfing replacing grassroots" --- it is not uncommon for Michael Jackson to bus in his fans to stand outside the court room, or for Rumsfield to bus in a bunch of fake Iraqis to pull down a statue of Saddam in order to shape public opinion. People get paid to stage a reaction in order to make it seem like a grass roots opinion. I think the word "shill" come to mind. George Bush even paid internet shills to post comments.

[snappa52]

i'm sure there are plants there. but being someone who has gone to pickets and events such as these i can say with honesty that they are not all like that. the majority of people that show up are not turf. its the culmination of the wars, bailouts, patriot acts and cap'n trade. the politicos have been cloistered in dc so they've been out of reach. now that they are home they are catching hell.

[XulChris]

HAH! Max supports government run healthcare because he knows it will destroy the US dollar and cause the price of gold to sky rocket.

[AlwaysKurtCobain]

XulChris, your a dipshit. Not only are you a dipshit but you also fail to realize that leaving healthcare as it is will cause the destruction of the US dollar. Just put in the search box on youtube "Comptroller General David Walker" and hear it from the horses mouth. The biggest threat to the destruction of the dollar is leaving health care as it is. Hope that sinks in.

[XulChris]

Ahem, AKC. I watched that video entitled "David Walker" submitted about a month ago. Never once did he say that spending massive amounts of money on a government run healthcare system was the solution. Infact I got the impression he was *against* government spending and government programs. Maybe, just maybe, what he was referring to was *eliminating* medicare and medicade which is the *real* reason why health care is so messed up right now. It is because governement is *already* involved! kthx!

[AlwaysKurtCobain]

okay then, you watched the video. Thanks. Davide Walker did use the words "sink our ship of state" ... which means that healthcare as it is right now could destroy the country. Which is my point. But thanks for watching the video, because most people just bat an eyelash and move on. So awesome.

[sugarpuddin88]

Health Care in USA is ranked 54th (Pay more and get lots lots less)

USA is only developed country not to offer health care to citizens

US is 41st in world in infant mortality Cuba scores higher

Women are 70% more likely to die in childbirth in America than in Europe

Leading cause of death of pregnant women in USA is murder

US is dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its workforce; they worker longer hours than any other nation & with least vacation time!

[XulChris]

This information is so inaccurate you either do not live in America, or are a complete moron, or both. I'm guessing both.

[1mealperday]

thank you Sugarpudding for setting the record straight.

[dominicmahoney1]

healthcare is essential. everyone should have it. If you dont think so i am not sure you deserve to have any claim to being a nice person.

[hrosemd]

The proposal to enslave some men for the sake of others is not an ideal; brutality is not idealistic, no matter what its purpose. Do not ever say that the desire to do good by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. -Ayn Rand.

[toeg1]

max,

As you can read by the comments below, people in America still don't know they're the only ones. They somehow believe that there is no health care system out there but theirs.

They are clueless, Max. They know nothing of the world. Save your breath trying to convince Americans about something they know nothing at all.

[wpw232]

wow, FUCK YOU MAX

[JRCrowley]

ENJOY YOUR DEPRESSION, MINDLESS ONE.

[wpw232]

Right, let's drive up our debt on health care so we don't go into a depression.

Then we can all go drink ourselves sober.

[JRCrowley]

NEWS FLASH: Without health care reform, it's going to cost you more! That's why health care reform keeps coming up on the agenda in the U.S.

It's too expensive. That's why half of Americans go bankrupt because they can't even afford health insurance.

Dude, they got you by the balls, and you don't even know it. Some of you Americans truly are DUMB.

[JRCrowley]

Here are some facts for you, if you can handle them:

National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending.

[JRCrowley]

More facts for you (grab a beer and read):

A recent study found that 62 percent of all bankruptcies filed in 2007 were linked to medical expenses. Of those who filed for bankruptcy, nearly 80 percent had health insurance.

According to another published article, about 1.5 million families lose their homes to foreclosure every year due to unaffordable medical costs.

So you see, dear American friend, you need to make reforms. The insurance companies don't want you to. Do you sense an agenda?

[wpw232]

unsubstantiated dubious facts for the win!!

[JRCrowley]

Fully $350 billion a year could be saved on paperwork alone if the U.S. went to a single-payer system — more than enough to pay for the whole goddamned thing, if anyone had the balls to stand up and say so.

Google "Sick and Wrong : Rolling Stone" for the rest of the article, if you want to know the truth, and if you have the attention span and intelligence to get through it.

[sjspellman]

Oh no, Max has drunk the Pelosi-esqe "any Socialized Medicine opponents are like Nazi brown shirts" propaganda kool-aid?!?

In reality, those opposing Obama-care are the real grass roots, along the lines of the tea party folks.

Come visit some real Americans over on this side of the pond, Max.

[TonyUnplugged]

Senior citizens like the health care that they receive via pension plans and/or Medicare. Obama wants to cut $500 billion from the Medicare budget to fund a portion of the "free" health care plan. 65,000 members of the American Association of Retired Persons have recently cancelled their memberships because AARP is in favor of the liberal "free" health care plan. Let's make real improvements like legal tort reform and allowing insurance companies to compete nationwide, not state by state

[BlacksAreBeautiful]

Not sure how can people not agree with Max with this!! are you guys saying that you're siding with the insurance companies? Obviously if this bill favored insurance companies, they would be endorsing it left and right...There silence speaks volumes, especially when they can get local thugs to go disrupt meetings using propaganda and lies as motivation

[kmg501]

No, were saying that we know the insurance companies are corrupt but what we know that you don't know is that the insurance companies are corrupt because the bureaucrats are in collusion with them.

We haven't had a true free market medical industry in over 44 years. Because of Medicaid & Medicare introduced by LBJ in 1965, medical & insurance costs have skyrocketed.

People don't understand the big myth. Big business loves being heavily regulated because it forces out competition.

[kmg501]

Here is a link, please read it so you can understand why this is a problem created by both big business and more so the bureaucrats who pander for votes and use lobbyist dollars to do it.

cato . org /research /articles /cpr28n4-1 . html

[rh7onda7]

socialized medicine done well can be beneficial if done well - at least everyone has access to basic healthcare and no one has to go bankrupt over health expenses

[artdeco101010]

Wow - this is the first thing I disagree with Max on...the government is never the solution.

[banjojambo]

how is your tooth bye the way?

[FreakMan2k]

I hope Max goes into more detail on his opinion about Government health care. I trust it's a valid one but I support more of a less gov approach.

[dinkolino2]

seems Max is a bit off track on this one..

[prescottbill]

Sorry Max have to disagree with you this time. We don't need to grow government healthcare, we need to shrink it.

Libertarians have offered several good healthcare solutions.  There is no BIG government aspect to their plans, so BIG government is not interested.

The Declaration didn't say this, "they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, housing, food, education, healthcare and the pursuit of happiness."

[mdl407]

This guy made $1,776,547635+

selling health insurance to poor people ....

UnitedHealth Group CEO William W. McGuire will receive an annual supplemental retirement benefit for his lifetime....$5.1 million@year

Over his 15 years as CEO, stock option backdating helped McGuire accumulate more than $2 billion in stock options.[4]

Could this be 1 reason insurance is so expensive?

[phnixlady]

Nyeeahh - could be! (chomps carrot)

[MrBankRuns]

The Gov will take all the Money that we used to pay for health care (Steal it) and we will get nothing in return. Goverement offers to help? LOL yeah right.

[phnixlady]

yup. l,p

[helpendthefed]

That's a nice MAC Max!

[Powdermonkey99]

non for profit single payer system is what I would like to see - BUT how about we fix the the BIGGER problems.. unempolyment, forclosuse, let put a few bankers in jail

[dbztiki]

MAXXXXXXXXXX run for office!!!!!!!

[chena3]

do you get

donutz

with health care.. ?

[phnixlady]

lol . as you drive thru they say "ya want vaccine with that ?"

[fancychance57]

thanks alex u always show me the light. "insurance co. and corps vs the american people.. wonderful

[prwong80]

Anyone who brings on Alex Jones loses credibility. I am no fan of the status quo but Alex Jones is a tinfoil loony.

[jfsimard79]

LMAO, he only puts up mainstream media articles so I guess MSM are tinfoil loonies.

[mrcool011]

Also Max, I usually like your stuff but you're far from correct here. These are average Americans who don't want GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE bureaucracy to keep us from getting medical treatment. If we had NHS my mom would have probably died from her cancer, but hey it would have been free! Canadian health care and other nations with NHS are in mess, people are dying from lack of treatment, BUT HEY ITS FREE! Max are you a socialist? I thought you liked the free market?

[BrodyLuv2]

You do realise that the insurance companys who would pay for the medical treatment went bust dont you?

Something needs to happen so that not everyone dies of dead insurance coverage.

[mrcool011]

No?

I know the Insurance agencies we have now are mostly shit of course, my parents have good insurance and they're still paying a lot for my moms medical treatment, but the solution is NOT government, we need to find a way to lower the costs, get better insurance and keep the government out. The government cannot even run the restaurants on capitol hill, they are in the negative each year, nor the post office thus they cannot run NHS. We are facing tough times I feel it personally.

[mrcool011]

Health care is a mess BECAUSE of government involvement. Canada and other nations with NHS have a free system but it takes forever to get in and get treatment. And the US is number one for innovation and new procedures in the world. New drugs and medical treatments won't come from government controls! Now look at plastic surgery, it has no insurance and little government involvement and its cost's are going up slower the rest of the medical system WHILE the doctor on average makes more!

[motorolarules]

Governments are unable to "fix" anything. The fake Reps we are stuck with NEVER fix only corrupt. People fix things.

[RROkDOkA]

amen to that

[1mealperday]

health care is a dis-info while the economy and the dollar crashes and we are not to notice the more serious issue. Buy silver and gold, food now to protect your self