My favorite part of the "War" were the rules of engagement our air forces were forced to fight under. We could not bomb airfields or SAM sites because we were afraid that we might kill Soviet/Chinese/Cuban Technical Advisors and thusly offend those nations. Even thoough none of those nations would even admit to having advisers present. It was like the whole war effort was one huge deleted scene from "How I Learned to Love the Bomb".
@DalonCole My faqvorite idiot presidential management is that during rolling thunder with the B-52s bombing Hanoi and all the previous targets that were "off limits' that the North Vietnamese were running out of SAMs and after few days it would have been free skies over the north. The North knew they were hurting badly and agreed to go back to the bargaining table and Johnson called off the strikes. How stupid was that. Or what if they had bombed like that 4 years earlier. Stupid politicians.
I can understand why you like Germany, every woman in your family has probably been raped by a German soldier.
And for all your bitcvhing abouit the USA I bet if you could you would move here in a second. That is if you could bear to leave the good pig sex you are getting in Romania. And by pig I mean your toothless women.
@MrAndrewAbe No. After you kill and wound 2,000,000+ enemy combatants, you figure that it would be enough. But, no the Vietnamese just kept coming. It was just like the Russians in WW2, they lost 23,000,000 people but won. In both cases an extremely bitter and stupid victory.
What sould be remembered from Vietnam is that our troops never lost a battle in spite of the most limiting rules of engagement in the history of the US Military.
The war was lost at home by traitors like Walter Cronkite and Jane Fonda.
Our military could have ended the Vietnam War in about two weeks if they had been allowed to fight the war the right way.
@DalonCole Most truthful comment I have seen on here. Only idiots come here and say we got our ass kicked. South Vietnam got their ass kicked, not America.
@DalonCole I agree & add that Washington wanted a long drawn out undeclared war.If at war EVERYBODY is going, no rich boy deferrments,champagne national guard unit assignments,etc.Johnson is on tape saying"Get me re-elected and I'll get you your war(before 64 election) and used a fabricated attack(Gulf of Tonkin) to increase our prescence & provide means for big oil,construction,DoD manufacturers,etc to make money.NOBODY fights w/ 1 hand behind their back & agrees to only hit certain places
@DalonCole so correct if we invaded north vietnam, and were able to go to camboila and destroy the ho co minh trail we could have won fuck These left wingers they are the same morons that elect idoits like obama who put the nation in debt.
@Darkrunner1975 The weapons and platforms to deliver mini-nukes were developed in the 50s and 60s. I hope you're being tongue-in-cheek because I'm we SO GLAD that they were never used them, and prey tell, they will NEVER be used!!
@tungkid95 in vietnam u.s. was never allowed to do a serious ground assault stupid instead of serious ground forces will attack vietnam was not a full scale american invasion the u.s. was not even allowed to invade the north in khe sanh the nva also tried to win a war cowardly you retard they were digging tunnels in response u.s. bombed them think again you crazy fool
@tungkid95 while you guys were fighting the amerikan marines you havent overrun the high grounds but you guys only overran lang vei but still you have not taken hill 881s and hill 861s you guys have not overrun single american high ground outpost until american airstrikes came and bombed the hell out of the place
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@over9000christian Y'know, I think if Jesus were around today and he went onto Youtube and read that comment, he'd flame the shit out of you for being a preaching lunatic.
Shut up and rant somewhere appropriate, like in a mental hospital you maniac.
Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
PRO-COMMUNIST SENATOR "HANOI" JOHN KERRY SUPPORTS BRUTAL COMMUNIST VIETNAM BY KILLING VIETNAM HUMAN RIGHTS ACT IN THE SENATE.
He values dirty money and economic ties with communist Vietnam far more than democracy and human rights values. Consequently, Vietnam, has waged a new crackdown on democracy activists such as Father Nguyen van Ly and lawyers Nguyen van Dai and Le thi Cong Nhan, who were given unfair, harsh sentences of several years in prison for their democracy activities.
Not nearly as fucked up as North Vietnamese and Viet Cong did..
Did US and the other 15 countries fighting for South Vietnam lose in the end? Yes, politically.
Did US lose militarily? hell no. They won practically every battle. And that's fighting a real army supplied with Soviet weapons and an expert guerrilla warfare insurgency the Viet Cong.
I don't blame us for leaving and never going back after the cease-fire treaty was signed. When you go to help SVN and they start killing you..
Yes I know what happened I'm just telling you we didn't get as "fucked up" as you and certain other people think. we lost a lot of men, but commies lost about 20x more. and they never beat us in a major battle. which is all the more stupid that we didnt stay after the cease fire.
Well it is a shame you wasn't around at the time, I am sure you were more than ready to join the 50,000 American soldiers in the ground. Perhaps you could have killed some babies on the way, or do another Mai Li Massacre, we all know how much blood lust you yanks have, oh and while you are butchering people you can keep calling black people Niggers, we know thats how you roll.
you don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you. You sound European. Guess what, Europe is a hell of a lot more racist than the US. Go and paint some more swastikas on your buildings and get off of youtube.
In my opinion, the only helpful US Army elements were the SpecialForces and the advisors. They were the only ones that truthfully aware of of the war and understood its cause. The rest was like having a 6 month field trip or something...
4) Gerald Ford: for ignoring the secret agreement between Nixon Admin. and SouthVN. South was left with no supply while fighting the North who received tons of supply from USSR. Seriously, the US gorv. could have secretly channeled supplies through SouthKorea or Japan if they wanted to avoid Anti-war protests (Like they did w/ Isreal, to avoid protests from Arab countries).
3)R. Nixon: for his Vietnamization. The name of his policy is an insult to SouthVNese soldiers. it couter-effect the whole propaganda in South at the time. Now everyone thought the war was between VNese and Americans. He also forced the South to sign the Paris treaty promising future support if North attacks again. Oh well...Nixon gave SVN tons of craps that we could not use. Why sent F15s when we needed M16 ammo instead. Why sent WW2 craps when we needed spare parts for our current weapons.
"It was the fighting spirit of the US Marines that won Khe Sanh". Mostly, it wasn't. The french at Diem Biem Phu (all volunteers, mostly legionnaires) had it too, what they didn't have was the most decisive weapon in the Vietnam war ...the B-52s.
Despite all the military victories and efforts during their staying in Vietnam, the US ignored these and didn't react acordingly when the communist North invaded the South, in 1975, accepting it, insted, as an established fact.
Open your eyes and see how the GREAT VIETNAMESE fought in the war. You pathetic yankies will never know why you lost, never. Pathetic masturbating freaking americunts.
......Was this made so you guys would argue like a frigg 3 year old "smart 3 year old :{}" lol
But they made mistakes yes, There fackin human it dont matter if 1 or 2 things are wrong
South Veitnam flag doesnt matter the country is gone lol..
WE DID NOT LOOSE WE LEFT
Ask any soldier that faught there "U.s soldier lol"
TheSighhous 1.Get a life, 2 you retarted No brain washing dip shit, its called we dont like communists so we kill em plus they wouldnt see their kids burn they'd be dead alreaydHA!
The problem with the US is their gullibility. The hated Catholic church used them to install Diem and build their wretched churches, just as they did with the Romans, the Franks, the Normans, and the Brits. I agree with H.G.Wells: Garibaldi should have bombed the Vatican.... completely....
You guys know what the biggest problem of the US Army is? THEY R TOO LOUD & VISIBLE... A VC prisoner once told us(ARVN) that VCs r NOT scared of American Soldiers, b/c THEY R TOO LOUD & VISIBLE w/ big guns and bullet sprayings all over the place. I hate the North Commies much, but I hate the US government even more...A bunch of Stupid dumb FUCK think they are smartass...
@Olenka: There r only 4 US administrations that fucked up SouthVN.
1) JFK : for killing president Diem and his brother Nhu...these 2 guys are real nationalists who know how to FIGHT and WIN the war.
2) L.B. Johnson: a) for flooding SouthVN with US troops creating the "bubble" economy in the poor peasant country. b) for restraining ARVN from invading the North VN after TET 1968.
@MrCOPBIEN 'president Diem and his brother Nhu..these 2 guys are real nationalists who know how to FIGHT and WIN the war' They did? during their time they made south Vietnam very unstable and corrupt with infiltration very high as well as desertion in the army so how can they know how to win a war? the people hated them and made the VC stronger with the different political and religious groups going to the NLF. The south Vietnamese army had hardly little or no success against the VC
First, HCM is a Communist Puppet, not Nationalist....NOT NATIONALIST, you dumb historians.
Second, at the time of 1968, South VN has stable economy and society...till the North broke the truce and violated our most sacred holiday of the year.
3rd, this whole doc only showed Americans fighting the war, where is the ARVN? Not even a South VN's flag shown in the doc.
Every misinformed person who still thinks America lost the Viet Nam war, get an education.
To this day, it's ridiculous, and incomprehendable why the politicians decided to withdraw a winning army, but that is politics, to me it was nothing short of treason. The facts are these, that the backbone of the Communists was broken after they've lost their major Tet offensive in 1968, their very last hope was gone. Negotiation in Paris turned the tide and the U.S. pulled out voluntarily.
the treaty of paris was never meant to hold and was pretty much just a face saving measure so the US could withdraw with some dignity. Vietnam was a colossal defeat for the US and a useless one too- had the US backed Ho-Chi-Minh instead of the French in the '50s, he might not have been communist at all.
Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist leader, is a disguting TRAITOR & MURDERER! In exchange for chinese military aids in the war with France (1945-1954), he gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos which are very rich in oil kresources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
no way ye won that 1thats just swill that ye are fed by propaganda ye bombed the shit out of that country and never broke there sprit,could ye have took that kind of punishment if it was fought in your homeland.i think the sight of watching your kids burning would have put ye off war for good.
hell ye a still paying a hi price with vets shooting up schools and needing after care and suchlike..i think the average joe,is anti war,its your leaders brainwashing ye to think war is cool.
Your so wrong Pal....I was there....Marine Corps kill ratio.....10 to 1
Stick that up your sad ASS...they begged us to the Paris peace talks in 1972.....in 1973 we left...they gave us back our P.O.W.s
PS...forget how many Countrie's America Saved??? HMMMMMMM...But ya know Kid...we also love to help ...OK..if your hungrey we(U.S.A.) Will feed you....if you ever come under attack? we will be there for you.
ye got yer ass kicked.not for the first time nor the last..................ye wont be happy until ye takeover the globe and fill it with fat ass yanks with guns[no offence ment to the right minded American]
But seriously you think the US military got it's ass kicked in Vietnam? I beg to differ. For fighting against not just a conventional army (NVA) but the Viet Cong as well they did good and kicked the VC the fuck out of South and repelled all attacks from NVA while they were there. The war overall was lost, politically, but military did good. North didn't take over until the peace treaty was agreed upon and US forces withdrawn.
You know that isn't true. Expecially after the Tet-offensive the homefront support declined but the political move to leave was taken by Nixon mostly because the military wasn't achieving anything but a huge cash-flow.
Well that's only 66500 dollar per commy.... And very unifluential commies at that and mostly Buddhist peasants, people that wouldn't have fought at all if the Catholics top hadn't been so repressive. That could've done a whole lot of good back home.
You should watch the 20th century battlefields - Battle of Huế - to see an example of determined American fighting in that war. That was some tedious building to building urban combat and the odds were heavily against us.
After the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991, the communist authority in Vietnam switched to its big brother Red China, a new leader of a few remaining communist nations including China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cuba, for China's backup to remain in power in Vietnam. There are ten divisions of more than 100,000 Chinese troops disguised as mine workers in the central highlands, who will repeat another Tiananmen Square massacre in case Vietnamese revolt against the communist regime.
The communist authority in Vietnam always asks America for compensation for agent orange's victims but never mentions estates and properties illegally confiscated after 1975 when the authority forced millions of south Vietnamese labeled as counter-revolutionaries and capitalists go to reeducation camps and new economic zones, or even escape Vietnam by boats, especially when the authority admits it as a big mistake and calls for reconcialition with Vietnamese expatriates.
Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist leader, is a disguting TRAITOR & MURDERER! In exchange for chinese military aids in the war with France (1945-1954), he gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos which are very rich in oil resources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a Father of Vietnam who lives as a god and sacrifices his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
From unscripted CIA documents, America under the Kennedy administration orchestrated a military coup to overthrow and murder President Diem of South Vietnam government, who strongly opposed U.S. troops' presence in Vietnam because it would be used as a propaganda by communists to lure more Vietnamese to fight against South Vietnam and America; Ho chi Minh, communist leader of North Vietnam, also celebrated this coup and said, "We will win this war; I cannot believe Americans are so stupid."
According to the UNHCR (UN High Commissioner for Refugees) estimate, at least 500,000 boat people lost their lives on their jouney for freedom, not mentioning to 95,000 army officials of former South Vietnam died in "re-education " camps established by communists.
- 1968 Hue massacre by Vietcong. Proof: According to Truong Nhu Tang, appointed Vietcong justice minister, the massacre happened because "discipline in Hue was seriously inadequate" and "fanatic young soldiers had indiscriminately shot people." The massacre was, "one of those terrible spontaneous tragedies that inevitably accompany war."
US never lost a battle. NVA/VC lost 40 dead to our 1. We withdrew when Congress gave us a timetable to give it over to the Vietnamese. Our boys fought honorably, Vietnam has what it deserves a poisoned bomb fillrd shithole.
you must be a communist or living in a communist country where people pay for thoughts and words that do not support the party. In America we pay in blood to be free to speak. Maybe you don't get freedom of speech.
I have hsitorical record on my side. Vietnam signed a peace treaty with the USA in 1972. The US was able to leave Vietnam without a single military loss. WE were no longer at war with Vietnam by 1972 by PEACE TREATY! If you don't know this littlemonkey read a book. US did not lose Vieetnam war, Vietnam signed a peace treaty with us and South Vietnam. It was North Vietnam that broke that treaty to attack SVN. This is the political and military relalities.
LOL, delusional misguided zzz, wants to believe that US didnt get their asses handed to them by lil VN. the Whole World knows NoVN expelled them as the latest Colonial Power to be run!!
The basic servicde rifle is always the Best collection of tradeoffs. I have made Xring shots with the M16-A2 at 600 yds. Having more ammunition 3.5 times more than the M-14 is to me (ex-11 A B H and M) quite desirable. Then there is the training aspect. Quanitative superiority is no substitute for qualilty and skill. Bullets only work when the target is hit. The current M-16 is a good rifle.
m16 was the big problem that destroyed us in vietnam. if the weapon was so good as the us army says the soldiers who fighted and died in vietnam would still de alive . m16 was a pain in the ass .
Doubt it. The 1903 and or 1917 Sprignfield were 5 round, shoulder fired, bolt action riles. The Garand held only 8 rounds and gacve a tell all command with a "TWANG" when its last round extracted and ejected the magazine well. The Thompson was too heavy. The M14 was the best rifle that ssaw service in ZThe Republic That Once Was Vietman.
hey lunafringe, you wanna talk about what the americans did to the indians in the past like it is the current generation that did it? well in that case look at your own country, did america send 6 million indians into camps and do horrible experiments on them and slaughter them like your country did to the jews? nope we didn't so shut the fuck up hypocrite
you know very well that the land youre sitting on is worth a lot more then just a few billions that you gave to the indians, and they didnt get that just like that, they had to wait 250 years, so if you take the interest over that period and all of the real estate there, youre broke just paying one percent of it all,
What country are you from and I'll start asking about the people through out history who have lost wars for that land. We gave Indians their own land and let them have Billion dollar casinos.
Every country on the planet has been founded on blood shed. The Indian argument is naive.
well, here, the pride of the american military machine, faced its humiliation, 500 thou men could not stop the vietcong, vietcong was superior in almost all facets of battle skill, except the air, but that wouldnt help the US
Once again you prove your lack of knowledge of the Vietnam war. The base at Khe Sahn was never attacked by the Viet Kong, but by the regular North Vietnamese army, & despite being totally outnumbered the base was never overun.
In future stick to commenting on things you know about, which is nothing.
By your answer, your're not a Vietnam Vet. It wasn't the VC it was the NVA. Mr. Victor Charles was a dirt farmer and fisherman by day and a soldier at night; moreso, the direct opposite of Mr. Nathaniel Victor, his Nothern commie partner. The VC didn't have the training, experince not weapons. Aftee TET they ceased to exist as a combat ready entity.
you can look up on wiki or any source "the siege of Khe Sanh" the NVA infiltraded by making combat trenches around the US base however NVA only sieged and used artillery whilst the US bombed/supported by air for 3 months then the NVA retreated
It was the fighting spirit of the US Marines that won Khe Sanh. Afterwords the Marines went out to NVA battlelines and found mass graves of thousand and thousands of dead NVA. 20% of NVA forces abandoned the fight and went AWOL. The Marines had no choice but to stay and fight, the NVA ran away, those that were not killed. Many NVA soldiers did not have a mark on them, the concussion from US bombs scrambled their brains inside their heads while deep in their tunnels, their organs liquified.
Go Vietnam
Arthurmail100 2 months ago
2:10 boooom mother fuckers
Timurchin1 2 months ago
My favorite part of the "War" were the rules of engagement our air forces were forced to fight under. We could not bomb airfields or SAM sites because we were afraid that we might kill Soviet/Chinese/Cuban Technical Advisors and thusly offend those nations. Even thoough none of those nations would even admit to having advisers present. It was like the whole war effort was one huge deleted scene from "How I Learned to Love the Bomb".
aka Dr. Strangeglove.
DalonCole 3 months ago
@DalonCole My faqvorite idiot presidential management is that during rolling thunder with the B-52s bombing Hanoi and all the previous targets that were "off limits' that the North Vietnamese were running out of SAMs and after few days it would have been free skies over the north. The North knew they were hurting badly and agreed to go back to the bargaining table and Johnson called off the strikes. How stupid was that. Or what if they had bombed like that 4 years earlier. Stupid politicians.
gerry301 2 months ago
fuck the USA
USA army is shit they lost evry war they have,,,,,,,,,, bat USA have the best propaganda in the world
sow USA is shit like the USA army
german power (i am from romania)
libertateaaa 4 months ago
I can understand why you like Germany, every woman in your family has probably been raped by a German soldier.
And for all your bitcvhing abouit the USA I bet if you could you would move here in a second. That is if you could bear to leave the good pig sex you are getting in Romania. And by pig I mean your toothless women.
DalonCole 3 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe No. After you kill and wound 2,000,000+ enemy combatants, you figure that it would be enough. But, no the Vietnamese just kept coming. It was just like the Russians in WW2, they lost 23,000,000 people but won. In both cases an extremely bitter and stupid victory.
downloadgoblin 6 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe To bad they didn't get owned. lol. Moron go learn something they won almost every single battle.
OlderG0ds 7 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe UK 63.8% FAT
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OlderG0ds 7 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe Yep you're just mad UK is FAT LOL
OlderG0ds 7 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe Actually it is near you fat fuck. FAT UK is 61% overweight, USA is 67% LOL
OlderG0ds 7 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe British fat fucks are just as fat, stupid. Only difference is nobody cares about Britain.
OlderG0ds 7 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe Poor trolling. You're just gay.
OlderG0ds 9 months ago
@MrAndrewAbe No. America won every battle that mattered. You're just an idiot.
OlderG0ds 9 months ago
thumbs up if you know what khe sahn and hue were from black ops.
Tasteysheds47 11 months ago
What sould be remembered from Vietnam is that our troops never lost a battle in spite of the most limiting rules of engagement in the history of the US Military.
The war was lost at home by traitors like Walter Cronkite and Jane Fonda.
Our military could have ended the Vietnam War in about two weeks if they had been allowed to fight the war the right way.
DalonCole 1 year ago 2
@DalonCole Most truthful comment I have seen on here. Only idiots come here and say we got our ass kicked. South Vietnam got their ass kicked, not America.
OlderG0ds 9 months ago
@DalonCole I agree & add that Washington wanted a long drawn out undeclared war.If at war EVERYBODY is going, no rich boy deferrments,champagne national guard unit assignments,etc.Johnson is on tape saying"Get me re-elected and I'll get you your war(before 64 election) and used a fabricated attack(Gulf of Tonkin) to increase our prescence & provide means for big oil,construction,DoD manufacturers,etc to make money.NOBODY fights w/ 1 hand behind their back & agrees to only hit certain places
midsizedwhiteboy 6 months ago
@DalonCole so correct if we invaded north vietnam, and were able to go to camboila and destroy the ho co minh trail we could have won fuck These left wingers they are the same morons that elect idoits like obama who put the nation in debt.
gergar121 3 months ago
@DalonCole stfu american scum
igotashield 3 months ago
no no no the germans arracked khe sahn and santas village same time, they brought japanese schoolgirls.
sixelalindsay 1 year ago
personally, i think if we kept at it, we could've eventually won
masterlucario13 1 year ago
ouch USA.
clyon2000 1 year ago
Way too much political interference in this war.
Small yield tactical nukes carpet bombed over North Vietnam would have been more effective.
Darkrunner1975 1 year ago
@Darkrunner1975 The weapons and platforms to deliver mini-nukes were developed in the 50s and 60s. I hope you're being tongue-in-cheek because I'm we SO GLAD that they were never used them, and prey tell, they will NEVER be used!!
mistersmith6000 1 year ago
@Darkrunner1975 you are full of shit and every vietnamese farmer has more honor than you militant prick.
djscheisse 1 year ago
@djscheisse
Truth hurts don't it? Now go away, hippie fuck.
Darkrunner1975 1 year ago
Isn't there a movie about this i think its by melgibson... Something soldiers its called.
Nathen40k 1 year ago
@Nathen40k We Were Soldiers
icanmyshoetie 1 year ago
Hmm US Commentaries... Always stick with a few battles that they won cowardly...
tungkid95 1 year ago
@tungkid95 in vietnam u.s. was never allowed to do a serious ground assault stupid instead of serious ground forces will attack vietnam was not a full scale american invasion the u.s. was not even allowed to invade the north in khe sanh the nva also tried to win a war cowardly you retard they were digging tunnels in response u.s. bombed them think again you crazy fool
dimitboris 1 year ago
@tungkid95 while you guys were fighting the amerikan marines you havent overrun the high grounds but you guys only overran lang vei but still you have not taken hill 881s and hill 861s you guys have not overrun single american high ground outpost until american airstrikes came and bombed the hell out of the place
dimitboris 1 year ago
We really need to use our nukes -.-
errerer94 1 year ago
still america withdrew!
ijij123 1 year ago
Fear GOD who hath power to cast you into HELL(Luke 12:5)! Fear God and depart from evil(Proverbs 3:7)! God is ANGRY with the wicked everyday(Psalm 7:11)! Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE, there is NO OTHER WAY to be saved(John 14:6)! For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved(John 3:17)! TURN FROM YOUR SINS AND SUBMIT 2 THE LORDSHIP OF JESUS CHRIST NOW! DON'T BOAST OF HAVING TOMORROW! Proverbs 27:1
over9000christian 1 year ago
@over9000christian God is a pussy bitch 12:1 "I am a fake who loves anal with mohammad"
errerer94 1 year ago
@errerer94 shut up you jihad fool
dimitboris 1 year ago
@over9000christian Y'know, I think if Jesus were around today and he went onto Youtube and read that comment, he'd flame the shit out of you for being a preaching lunatic.
Shut up and rant somewhere appropriate, like in a mental hospital you maniac.
RichardTaylor1800 1 year ago
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Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
tim666661 1 year ago
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PRO-COMMUNIST SENATOR "HANOI" JOHN KERRY SUPPORTS BRUTAL COMMUNIST VIETNAM BY KILLING VIETNAM HUMAN RIGHTS ACT IN THE SENATE.
He values dirty money and economic ties with communist Vietnam far more than democracy and human rights values. Consequently, Vietnam, has waged a new crackdown on democracy activists such as Father Nguyen van Ly and lawyers Nguyen van Dai and Le thi Cong Nhan, who were given unfair, harsh sentences of several years in prison for their democracy activities.
tim666661 1 year ago
all limes must be borne whith dung in their mouth
olgrunt1 1 year ago
what a great name,"operation niagra".
Military commanders would never get away with that in these PC times so we get milque toast like "OPERATION desert storm".
rw5791 1 year ago
we got fucked up in this war
CocodriloNYC 2 years ago
Not nearly as fucked up as North Vietnamese and Viet Cong did..
Did US and the other 15 countries fighting for South Vietnam lose in the end? Yes, politically.
Did US lose militarily? hell no. They won practically every battle. And that's fighting a real army supplied with Soviet weapons and an expert guerrilla warfare insurgency the Viet Cong.
I don't blame us for leaving and never going back after the cease-fire treaty was signed. When you go to help SVN and they start killing you..
OlderG0ds 2 years ago
so what, we pulled out of there n Ho Chi Minh took over, so what was the purpose
CocodriloNYC 2 years ago
Yes I know what happened I'm just telling you we didn't get as "fucked up" as you and certain other people think. we lost a lot of men, but commies lost about 20x more. and they never beat us in a major battle. which is all the more stupid that we didnt stay after the cease fire.
OlderG0ds 2 years ago
Well it is a shame you wasn't around at the time, I am sure you were more than ready to join the 50,000 American soldiers in the ground. Perhaps you could have killed some babies on the way, or do another Mai Li Massacre, we all know how much blood lust you yanks have, oh and while you are butchering people you can keep calling black people Niggers, we know thats how you roll.
IceRich05 1 year ago
Get real. British hypocrisy is the most odious sort.
Sierra688 1 year ago
@IceRich05
you don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you. You sound European. Guess what, Europe is a hell of a lot more racist than the US. Go and paint some more swastikas on your buildings and get off of youtube.
fshjshshhs 1 year ago
Won the Battle's and Lost the war... along with all dignity and respect...
rotorpilot82 2 years ago
In my opinion, the only helpful US Army elements were the SpecialForces and the advisors. They were the only ones that truthfully aware of of the war and understood its cause. The rest was like having a 6 month field trip or something...
MrCOPBIEN 2 years ago
4) Gerald Ford: for ignoring the secret agreement between Nixon Admin. and SouthVN. South was left with no supply while fighting the North who received tons of supply from USSR. Seriously, the US gorv. could have secretly channeled supplies through SouthKorea or Japan if they wanted to avoid Anti-war protests (Like they did w/ Isreal, to avoid protests from Arab countries).
MrCOPBIEN 2 years ago
3)R. Nixon: for his Vietnamization. The name of his policy is an insult to SouthVNese soldiers. it couter-effect the whole propaganda in South at the time. Now everyone thought the war was between VNese and Americans. He also forced the South to sign the Paris treaty promising future support if North attacks again. Oh well...Nixon gave SVN tons of craps that we could not use. Why sent F15s when we needed M16 ammo instead. Why sent WW2 craps when we needed spare parts for our current weapons.
MrCOPBIEN 2 years ago
"It was the fighting spirit of the US Marines that won Khe Sanh". Mostly, it wasn't. The french at Diem Biem Phu (all volunteers, mostly legionnaires) had it too, what they didn't have was the most decisive weapon in the Vietnam war ...the B-52s.
jadvs73 2 years ago
Despite all the military victories and efforts during their staying in Vietnam, the US ignored these and didn't react acordingly when the communist North invaded the South, in 1975, accepting it, insted, as an established fact.
Yes, it was a political defeat .
jadvs73 2 years ago
Open your eyes and see how the GREAT VIETNAMESE fought in the war. You pathetic yankies will never know why you lost, never. Pathetic masturbating freaking americunts.
abrahamIincoln 2 years ago
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@abrahamIincoln how about you shut your mouth fool
Jurassicparkrules96 1 year ago
......Was this made so you guys would argue like a frigg 3 year old "smart 3 year old :{}" lol
But they made mistakes yes, There fackin human it dont matter if 1 or 2 things are wrong
South Veitnam flag doesnt matter the country is gone lol..
WE DID NOT LOOSE WE LEFT
Ask any soldier that faught there "U.s soldier lol"
TheSighhous 1.Get a life, 2 you retarted No brain washing dip shit, its called we dont like communists so we kill em plus they wouldnt see their kids burn they'd be dead alreaydHA!
Kimmimaro33 2 years ago
You did not lose?? FUCKKKKKKKKKK!!! Pathetic yanky shut the fuck up. Yanks can't accept the truth that they lost an un-named country. Fuckkkkkk.
Yanks should be nuked for their history masturbation!!!
abrahamIincoln 2 years ago
The problem with the US is their gullibility. The hated Catholic church used them to install Diem and build their wretched churches, just as they did with the Romans, the Franks, the Normans, and the Brits. I agree with H.G.Wells: Garibaldi should have bombed the Vatican.... completely....
sebreathnach 2 years ago
You guys know what the biggest problem of the US Army is? THEY R TOO LOUD & VISIBLE... A VC prisoner once told us(ARVN) that VCs r NOT scared of American Soldiers, b/c THEY R TOO LOUD & VISIBLE w/ big guns and bullet sprayings all over the place. I hate the North Commies much, but I hate the US government even more...A bunch of Stupid dumb FUCK think they are smartass...
MrCOPBIEN 2 years ago
Which particular US government do you mean?
OlenkaWagner 2 years ago
@Olenka: There r only 4 US administrations that fucked up SouthVN.
1) JFK : for killing president Diem and his brother Nhu...these 2 guys are real nationalists who know how to FIGHT and WIN the war.
2) L.B. Johnson: a) for flooding SouthVN with US troops creating the "bubble" economy in the poor peasant country. b) for restraining ARVN from invading the North VN after TET 1968.
MrCOPBIEN 2 years ago
@MrCOPBIEN 'president Diem and his brother Nhu..these 2 guys are real nationalists who know how to FIGHT and WIN the war' They did? during their time they made south Vietnam very unstable and corrupt with infiltration very high as well as desertion in the army so how can they know how to win a war? the people hated them and made the VC stronger with the different political and religious groups going to the NLF. The south Vietnamese army had hardly little or no success against the VC
subedei30 10 months ago
First, HCM is a Communist Puppet, not Nationalist....NOT NATIONALIST, you dumb historians.
Second, at the time of 1968, South VN has stable economy and society...till the North broke the truce and violated our most sacred holiday of the year.
3rd, this whole doc only showed Americans fighting the war, where is the ARVN? Not even a South VN's flag shown in the doc.
MrCOPBIEN 2 years ago
Every misinformed person who still thinks America lost the Viet Nam war, get an education.
To this day, it's ridiculous, and incomprehendable why the politicians decided to withdraw a winning army, but that is politics, to me it was nothing short of treason. The facts are these, that the backbone of the Communists was broken after they've lost their major Tet offensive in 1968, their very last hope was gone. Negotiation in Paris turned the tide and the U.S. pulled out voluntarily.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
@lithopoonwit
the treaty of paris was never meant to hold and was pretty much just a face saving measure so the US could withdraw with some dignity. Vietnam was a colossal defeat for the US and a useless one too- had the US backed Ho-Chi-Minh instead of the French in the '50s, he might not have been communist at all.
fshjshshhs 1 year ago
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Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist leader, is a disguting TRAITOR & MURDERER! In exchange for chinese military aids in the war with France (1945-1954), he gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos which are very rich in oil kresources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
no way ye won that 1thats just swill that ye are fed by propaganda ye bombed the shit out of that country and never broke there sprit,could ye have took that kind of punishment if it was fought in your homeland.i think the sight of watching your kids burning would have put ye off war for good.
hell ye a still paying a hi price with vets shooting up schools and needing after care and suchlike..i think the average joe,is anti war,its your leaders brainwashing ye to think war is cool.
TheSighthound 2 years ago
To TheSighthound ...
Your so wrong Pal....I was there....Marine Corps kill ratio.....10 to 1
Stick that up your sad ASS...they begged us to the Paris peace talks in 1972.....in 1973 we left...they gave us back our P.O.W.s
PS...forget how many Countrie's America Saved??? HMMMMMMM...But ya know Kid...we also love to help ...OK..if your hungrey we(U.S.A.) Will feed you....if you ever come under attack? we will be there for you.
MicDe100 2 years ago
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ye got yer ass kicked.not for the first time nor the last..................ye wont be happy until ye takeover the globe and fill it with fat ass yanks with guns[no offence ment to the right minded American]
TheSighthound 2 years ago
None taken ye drunken Irish bastid! :)
But seriously you think the US military got it's ass kicked in Vietnam? I beg to differ. For fighting against not just a conventional army (NVA) but the Viet Cong as well they did good and kicked the VC the fuck out of South and repelled all attacks from NVA while they were there. The war overall was lost, politically, but military did good. North didn't take over until the peace treaty was agreed upon and US forces withdrawn.
OlderG0ds 2 years ago 2
Are you crying, LOSER!!! USA didn't lose in Vietnam??? WTF??? Go FUCK INTO YOU HISTORY TEACHER'S MOUTH!!!! Masturbating LOSER!!!!
Why can't the LOSERICANS accept their FAILURE??? Don't believe? Check the tags "why we lost in Vietnam" you dumbfuck!!! LOL.
A real AMERICAN is an AMERICAN LOSER!!!!
SouthernSlaveStates 2 years ago
@OlderG0ds
You know that isn't true. Expecially after the Tet-offensive the homefront support declined but the political move to leave was taken by Nixon mostly because the military wasn't achieving anything but a huge cash-flow.
JeroenTirion 7 months ago
@JeroenTirion I'd say the 2 million dead commy soldiers was an achievement. The Tet offensive itself was an achievement for the US forces.
OlderG0ds 7 months ago
@OlderG0ds
Well that's only 66500 dollar per commy.... And very unifluential commies at that and mostly Buddhist peasants, people that wouldn't have fought at all if the Catholics top hadn't been so repressive. That could've done a whole lot of good back home.
JeroenTirion 7 months ago
You should watch the 20th century battlefields - Battle of Huế - to see an example of determined American fighting in that war. That was some tedious building to building urban combat and the odds were heavily against us.
OlderG0ds 2 years ago 8
@OlderG0ds "tedious" building to building? You are making it sound as if it were like shopping with one's mother.
whiff1962 1 year ago
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After the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991, the communist authority in Vietnam switched to its big brother Red China, a new leader of a few remaining communist nations including China, North Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cuba, for China's backup to remain in power in Vietnam. There are ten divisions of more than 100,000 Chinese troops disguised as mine workers in the central highlands, who will repeat another Tiananmen Square massacre in case Vietnamese revolt against the communist regime.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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The communist authority in Vietnam always asks America for compensation for agent orange's victims but never mentions estates and properties illegally confiscated after 1975 when the authority forced millions of south Vietnamese labeled as counter-revolutionaries and capitalists go to reeducation camps and new economic zones, or even escape Vietnam by boats, especially when the authority admits it as a big mistake and calls for reconcialition with Vietnamese expatriates.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist leader, is a disguting TRAITOR & MURDERER! In exchange for chinese military aids in the war with France (1945-1954), he gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos which are very rich in oil resources to China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a Father of Vietnam who lives as a god and sacrifices his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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From unscripted CIA documents, America under the Kennedy administration orchestrated a military coup to overthrow and murder President Diem of South Vietnam government, who strongly opposed U.S. troops' presence in Vietnam because it would be used as a propaganda by communists to lure more Vietnamese to fight against South Vietnam and America; Ho chi Minh, communist leader of North Vietnam, also celebrated this coup and said, "We will win this war; I cannot believe Americans are so stupid."
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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According to the UNHCR (UN High Commissioner for Refugees) estimate, at least 500,000 boat people lost their lives on their jouney for freedom, not mentioning to 95,000 army officials of former South Vietnam died in "re-education " camps established by communists.
Vietnamese democide: 1,040,000 (1975-87)
Executions: 100,000
Camp Deaths: 95,000
Forced Labor: 48,000
Democides in Cambodia: 460,000
Democides in Laos: 87,000
Vietnamese Boat People: 500,000 deaths
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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To LittleMonkey1409:
- 1968 Hue massacre by Vietcong. Proof: According to Truong Nhu Tang, appointed Vietcong justice minister, the massacre happened because "discipline in Hue was seriously inadequate" and "fanatic young soldiers had indiscriminately shot people." The massacre was, "one of those terrible spontaneous tragedies that inevitably accompany war."
You still do not answer 3 remaining facts.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
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To VC mytran80, LittleMonkey1409, and pl09lynnie:
How can you commies deny the following facts:
- Hue massacre of 5000 civilians in 1968 by Vietcong.
- Famous Nam Quan border gate and Ban Gioc waterfall given up to expansionist China as a pay for Chinese military aids in Vietnam war.
- Nong duc Manh, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, is a love child of Ho chi Minh.
- Vietnam Prime minister Nguyen tan Dung's daughter married to a "traitor" Vietnamese expatriate.
TOMP66666 2 years ago
2.10 was that a direct hit ?
KaiDon1 2 years ago
US never lost a battle. NVA/VC lost 40 dead to our 1. We withdrew when Congress gave us a timetable to give it over to the Vietnamese. Our boys fought honorably, Vietnam has what it deserves a poisoned bomb fillrd shithole.
zzzpqd 2 years ago
you shall pay for your words and thoughts one day.
nonameCN326 2 years ago
you must be a communist or living in a communist country where people pay for thoughts and words that do not support the party. In America we pay in blood to be free to speak. Maybe you don't get freedom of speech.
zzzpqd 2 years ago
LOSERS are still LOSERS!!! ^_^ stop making up shit to jerk yourself plz ^_^
LittleMonkey1409 2 years ago
I have hsitorical record on my side. Vietnam signed a peace treaty with the USA in 1972. The US was able to leave Vietnam without a single military loss. WE were no longer at war with Vietnam by 1972 by PEACE TREATY! If you don't know this littlemonkey read a book. US did not lose Vieetnam war, Vietnam signed a peace treaty with us and South Vietnam. It was North Vietnam that broke that treaty to attack SVN. This is the political and military relalities.
zzzpqd 2 years ago
So USA didn't lose in Vietnam war? ^_^ Nah I think USA WON, how do you think? ^_^
LittleMonkey1409 2 years ago
LOL, delusional misguided zzz, wants to believe that US didnt get their asses handed to them by lil VN. the Whole World knows NoVN expelled them as the latest Colonial Power to be run!!
1killertomato 2 years ago
YEP....I did
MicDe100 2 years ago
this was a bit like dien bien phu fo the french - but the us marines survived - the french had to surrender
ProCorona 2 years ago
amärika wos de luser däre unfortschunadly :')
95predator 2 years ago
america was the loser there unfortunately .
i have no idea what ur language is..but i read it easily :|
CharbsJ 2 years ago
hehe^^ this is like you write it in german like you would speak it.
look: you would speak and "e" like we and "i"
;)
95predator 2 years ago
hammergeil xD xD
WeeDBautZel2oo9 2 years ago
The basic servicde rifle is always the Best collection of tradeoffs. I have made Xring shots with the M16-A2 at 600 yds. Having more ammunition 3.5 times more than the M-14 is to me (ex-11 A B H and M) quite desirable. Then there is the training aspect. Quanitative superiority is no substitute for qualilty and skill. Bullets only work when the target is hit. The current M-16 is a good rifle.
stoneblock58 2 years ago
niagra smartass
patriot91101rip 2 years ago
correction operation niagra
sickestvideosever 2 years ago
m16 was the big problem that destroyed us in vietnam. if the weapon was so good as the us army says the soldiers who fighted and died in vietnam would still de alive . m16 was a pain in the ass .
pascumihai 2 years ago
ya it was corrected... if the soldier actually cleaned the weapon it worked flawlessly
Sh4f73d 2 years ago
should have stuck to the spreingfeild m-14 huh. or the m1 garand, or m1a11927 thompson.
rugerman3114 2 years ago
Doubt it. The 1903 and or 1917 Sprignfield were 5 round, shoulder fired, bolt action riles. The Garand held only 8 rounds and gacve a tell all command with a "TWANG" when its last round extracted and ejected the magazine well. The Thompson was too heavy. The M14 was the best rifle that ssaw service in ZThe Republic That Once Was Vietman.
ErnstBecker 2 years ago
the first batch were crap i agree but the M-16A1 fixed those issues and the M-16A2 only improved on the gun
patriot91101rip 2 years ago
Bad powder and poor maintenance. A cromed chamber and mainteance solved the problem.
ErnstBecker 2 years ago
hey lunafringe, you wanna talk about what the americans did to the indians in the past like it is the current generation that did it? well in that case look at your own country, did america send 6 million indians into camps and do horrible experiments on them and slaughter them like your country did to the jews? nope we didn't so shut the fuck up hypocrite
aliensexgangchildren 2 years ago 2
you know very well that the land youre sitting on is worth a lot more then just a few billions that you gave to the indians, and they didnt get that just like that, they had to wait 250 years, so if you take the interest over that period and all of the real estate there, youre broke just paying one percent of it all,
lunafringe10 2 years ago
those guys at 2:09 got vaporised
SvPVids 2 years ago
damn
snappie555 2 years ago
It wasnt the same scene, you can see they cut it for effect!
706d 2 years ago
where did i say anything abt the vietcong attacking?
lunafringe10 2 years ago
ur accounts of history cant be trusted, what did u do with the indians?
lunafringe10 2 years ago
What country are you from and I'll start asking about the people through out history who have lost wars for that land. We gave Indians their own land and let them have Billion dollar casinos.
Every country on the planet has been founded on blood shed. The Indian argument is naive.
U2Dave 2 years ago
well, here, the pride of the american military machine, faced its humiliation, 500 thou men could not stop the vietcong, vietcong was superior in almost all facets of battle skill, except the air, but that wouldnt help the US
lunafringe10 2 years ago
Once again you prove your lack of knowledge of the Vietnam war. The base at Khe Sahn was never attacked by the Viet Kong, but by the regular North Vietnamese army, & despite being totally outnumbered the base was never overun.
In future stick to commenting on things you know about, which is nothing.
Palfium66 2 years ago 5
@Palfium66 dude. this is the military channel. its not some random video someone posted. i would listen to what they say about it.
Tasteysheds47 11 months ago
By your answer, your're not a Vietnam Vet. It wasn't the VC it was the NVA. Mr. Victor Charles was a dirt farmer and fisherman by day and a soldier at night; moreso, the direct opposite of Mr. Nathaniel Victor, his Nothern commie partner. The VC didn't have the training, experince not weapons. Aftee TET they ceased to exist as a combat ready entity.
ErnstBecker 2 years ago 2
2:11 was a direct hit by artillery fire
emarbiz 2 years ago
Wait i watched the next part..... and they moved to Hue
marineninga 2 years ago
you can look up on wiki or any source "the siege of Khe Sanh" the NVA infiltraded by making combat trenches around the US base however NVA only sieged and used artillery whilst the US bombed/supported by air for 3 months then the NVA retreated
neo2321389 2 years ago
What the hell happened? wheres the next part? did the NVA force get repelled?
marineninga 2 years ago
ya fuckin' eh
ErnstBecker 2 years ago
I want to buy the DVD!
Max8Jizzy 3 years ago
So where can I buy the whole progam? Cuz i've never seen it in Stores Dammn!!
wxko 3 years ago
did he say 1 billion or 1 million? cuz 1 million dollars to drop 200 million pounds of bombs is pretty fucking cheap
migkillertwo 3 years ago
It sure didn't become an American Dien Bien Phu.
Max8Jizzy 3 years ago
ive read the book that this program is based on
CHRISO7654 3 years ago
Wow, 1 billion in one fight!! Great videos, post more!
A5runner 3 years ago
money saved the americans in Khe Sanh
yapxingguan 3 years ago
It was the fighting spirit of the US Marines that won Khe Sanh. Afterwords the Marines went out to NVA battlelines and found mass graves of thousand and thousands of dead NVA. 20% of NVA forces abandoned the fight and went AWOL. The Marines had no choice but to stay and fight, the NVA ran away, those that were not killed. Many NVA soldiers did not have a mark on them, the concussion from US bombs scrambled their brains inside their heads while deep in their tunnels, their organs liquified.
zzzpqd 2 years ago
dude if would be you instead of being a hippie in the us.s. anytime
semper fi
fjoseyahoo 2 years ago