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  • what exactly is a tritone/triad??

  • Man i wish i could play piano

  • Holy cow, man! Such a wonderful mess of chords!! I love it!!

  • so have i go tthis right ? the 3rd note of a major scale as normal and the flattened 7th note of the same major scale....those 2 notes .... is/are in effect the tritone of that scale?

  • They all work beautifully with the possible exception of d minor over the tritone due to the clash of e with f, and a with b-flat. Great lesson!

  • I'm an advanced player and understand the extended chords in their formal harmonic names. And, I can completely see the value at looking at the same chords in a different light as it opens you up to new possibilites of understanding. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with this approach. Thanks for sharing, israelsprince! You're a talented teacher.

  • Great tutorial. It helped me Michael. Most 'net "teachers" simply show off their skills. You actually teach, thank you.

  • @ruffinraun You're welcome, and thank you for watching. Stayed tuned!!!  There's more to come soon!

  • The few self-proclaimed music professors that are posting here are either wrong or annoying or both. You gave us a new way to look at tritone use and chord construction. Thanks for the vid.

  • @6noteblues Thank you!! This is very encouraging. Peace to you!!

  • @6noteblues Thank you for watching and for your comment. Very encouraging!! Stay tuned! There's more to come.

  • This is gold!!! Thankyou

  • @Zordo11 Thank you!!! There more to come soon!

  • I like the groove by the way, keep doing what you doing. You are an

    inspiration.

  • @sillyie You all inspire me as well. Thank you! Peace to you!

  • Shouldn't it be called triad over tritones since you are playing the tritone in the left hand and the triad in the right? Is there a time when you play both the tritone for the C and the F in the left hand (substituting both the Major 9's for the tritones. (Just want to make sure bc I am learning. Not trying to out-teach you or anything, I just don't want anyone to be confused over the reading of the chords from right to left, bc some like myself are being taught to read it that way.

  • @sillyie My invent was to title this video exactly as its called. I'm simply showing several example of triads that can be play over a tritone....i.e. TRIADS over Tritones. These triads are simply chord extentions, but I called it Triads Over Tritones to make it easier for beginners understand. Don't get locked into one way of thinking.

  • This is a very helpful youtube vid. Definitely a constructive use of the medium. Keep it up.

  • Love the video! How much longer to the World Premiere Tritones DVD?

  • I see what you did there! Dude, this opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities for my playing that I hadn't considered. Thanks for the tips. Time to go shed some more :)

  • @jjcantu86 You are welcome. Thank you for watching. Peace!

  • now for white people: starting at the first substitution constantly moving back to Fmaj7 (I): C7/13, C7/9, C7/9 (#11/b13) or C7alt, C(#)7(b10)(b13), C7/13(b9), C7(#11)(b9), C7(b10), C7/11 (b9)(b13), C7(b10)(#11). And so on!!

  • You are playing V (/C) I (Fmaj7) instead of I IV

  • @HammondB200 You are absolutely wrong. I'm clearly playing a I-IV progression in the key of C. For the I chord I'm using a C in the bass, and for the IV chord I'm playing an F. Maybe you should turn up your speakers and listen to the bass.

  • @israelsprince

    You are altering the C chord! and its a dominant 7th chord! it dissolves to F. Like playing Db triad over C tritone is. C7/11(b13/b9). A chord with an alteration like b9 always wants to dissolve, that naturally goes down a fifth or up a fourth to the I (tonic) (wether you look at it). When it wants to dissolve its function is dominant = V

  • I got lost when he started saying "here's another one" :P

  • Sounds tasty.

  • hello..i just want to say to you kind sir that you've helped my playing out greatly. Just watching and using the drills you've displayed really helped me. Im a college trained drummer who turned to the piano and been playing since 2003 so as you said theres always something to learn and share. Thanks for the video and stay encouraged. Dust the haters off...Peace

  • @helpinghands08 That's what it's all about...drills!!!  Thank you for your kind words. Peace!!!

  • Thank you. Love Navrika . . . x x x 

  • @Navrika You're welcome. Peace and love to you!

  • Thankyou. Love Navrika . . . x x x

  • Thank you for this lesson. I'm an intermediate player and found it helpful that you did this in the context of a progression.  I do have a question. When the three part vocal lines conflict with the chord qualities what would is the best way to utilizes this?

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  • So you choose to delete, intelligent, well thought out comments?  You shouldn't post videos if you won't allow people to respectfully critique it. You might call it political correctness, but you're saying some things that simply aren't true.

  • @jonnygeiser You see, this is exactly what I'm talking about; this debate is truly unnecessary seeing as there's always more than one way to look at it. And I am not wrong about my explanation. I certainly don't mind contstructive criticism, but if you have nothing more than your debate, you are always free to view other videos. There are a lot of people who have benefited from what I've displayed here so I'm asking you kindly to cease this back and forth thing.

  • For all of you ultra-technical and politically correct musicians I am aware that F# is the tritone of C. However, every Dom 7th chord contains a tritone within the chord. Therefore, E and Bb is the tritone within a C dom 7 chord. So even though F# is the tritone of C, C and F#(Gb) is also the tritone within an Ab dom 7 chord. End of discussion. All future arguments pertaining to this will be removed or blocked.

  • @israelsprince Hey man.....if you noticed, none of the people who are critiquing you don't have any videos up themselves sharing their knowledge. In the vid, you clearly state that this is for beginners and advanced players already know this and etc..... I'm a college trained, professional bassist living in Brooklyn who constantly is searching for inspiration...which is how i came across your vid. You have helped a lot of folks that you'll never know ( trust me ) , so just keep doing you, sir

  • @mygr8afro You're absolutely right. Thank you for your comment. Peace and blessings.

  • @mygr8afro Amen to that.

  • I apologize in advance in case this topic has been exhausted in the comments, but I cringe when you say that the tritone in the key of C is E to Bb. Do you mean the tritone of C7?

  • This is the best explanation of the use of the tritone I have ever seen. I now fully understand how to use it. How you called out the different triads over the tritones helped sync how best to use it. It's merely a use of many different combinations of triads over the tritone. so simple. Hope to see more from you.

  • @mozart77 Thank you for your comment, and it's really just that simple. There's more to come. Peace!

  • @israelsprince Hey you're very welcome, I just sent you an email.

  • The concept is explained very well. This is NOT a demonstration of tritone substitution, nor was it supposed to be! what is played here are 20 progressions that flow well from a dominant 7 tonality, with the second chord in each change being playing against an E and B7, which are two notes common to to the C7 and its tritone substitute, F#7. Thanks for the video, its quite nice.

  • @AntManIAm It's always very interesting when you guys come here with your political correctness, but there's more than one way to look at this. I'm aware that F# is the tritone of C, but the Maj 3rd and Dom 7th of ANY Dom 7 chord is STILL a tritone. The bass player or organist may be playing C in the bass, but what I'm playing in my left hand is still a tritone.

  • @israelsprince yeah, thats what i was getting at here. I was merely responding to people who were reading "tritone substitution" when you just said tritone. I was just trying to help clarify the misunderstanding. You know your stuff, man.

  • @AntManIAm I didn't take offense to what you were saying. Thank you for watching and for your response. Peace and blessings.

  • @israelsprince not being politically correct. Just stating that this is playing over the tritone found in key of C and F# and not "tritone substitution" which some people were mistakenly expecting. peace.

  • Good stuff! Helped me. Whats up with your DVD?? When?

  • @dyou500 The DVD is almost done. I'm just trying to do it right to ensure that it WILL HELP you and not waste your money. So everybody get ready for "Tritone Bootcamp" the DVD.

  • @israelsprince Can't wait!

  • I like this approach. Real open and not rigid. Keep doing what you do bro.

  • @dArmanProductions Thank you and peace to you!

  • Wow...thanks for the tritone break down...exactly what I was looking for.

  • @MrKompaMan You're welcome, and I hope it helps.

  • nice lesson. I have a question though, how do you know which triad chords to put over your tritones and which ones to not put over your tritones? Is there a theory behind it?

  • @jcurls90 Yes, there is theory behind it. I will talk about it soon.

  • @israelsprince Looking forward to that!

  • this theory only works if u have a bass player......those are not tri tone subs in the left...... the sub for that c major 7 is f sharp 7......because all u are dong in theory is making a c dominant 7 in the left by adding a third and a dominant 7th....and because u have the bass who keeps doing a 1 - 4 progression it allows u 2 flow mmore freely with chords in the other hand

  • @tizzletimtaylor I'm clearly playing tritones in my left hand. That is what makes a tritone (a maj 3rd and dom 7th of a Dom7 chord so you are wrong. I'm not here to debate with you or anybody else. I'm here to help those who want the help. If you don't, then you are free to move on.

  • @israelsprince @tizzletimtaylor

    I believe you're both right. What is being played is clearly a tritone (E and Bb) voicing as a substitution for a full C7 chord voicing. However, tritone substitution most commonly refers to substituting the bass note (root) with its tritone (replacing C with F#). The video "Music Theory - Tri-tones" (search for H9VMUkmu_wQ) by Milton Ruffin explains both principles pretty well. Cheers!

  • @oycam You are right. I understood what he was saying. However, as you know a tritone is always the Maj 3rd and Dom 7 of some Dom 7 chord. In the case of C and F#, C is the Maj 3rd of Ab, and F# is the Dom 7. I know I'm just preaching to the choir, thank you for your post. Peace and blessings!

  • @tizzletimtaylor im not here to debate either but .... its best to explain the theory in a way ppl coulld get a better understanding...... in the left hand the e and bflat are tritones of each other....but not tritones of c. if u look it up ,the tritone of c is fsharp.... what you are doing is dominant 7th....not a sub...c,e, bflat....is basicaly a dominant 7th chord

  • @tizzletimtaylor I understand clearly that F# is the tritone of C, however, within every 'Dom 7 chord' there exits a tritone which is the Maj 3rd and Dom 7 of that chord. So yes, F# is the tritone of C, and it is also the Dom 7 of Ab which makes C the Maj 3rd of Ab. Therefore C-F# is the tritone that exits within the Ab Dom 7 chord. I would suggest that you take oycam's advise.

  • amazing! thank you so much for sharing! Take care :)

  • @uyangamusic You're welcome. Peace!!

  • Your sound is really awesome. It might not be so complicated but it's really precise.

  • @pierolivier111 Thank you, and Peace to you!

  • @pierolivier111 Thank you!!

  • nice share brother

    

  • @waletechniques Thank you! Peace!

  • Brilliant. Immediately helped me. Wonderful teaching style. Thanks (",).

  • @joneldones I'm glad it helped. Peace and blessings.

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  • Oh my gosh, this was the video that I needed to see! Watching this just unlocked the disconnect that I had with tritiones in my playing! Thanks.

  • @blackdominique Then all of this wasn't in vain. Thank you for watching, and I'm glad it helped. I you want the chord sheet to this, just email me at the email list at the end of this videos.

  • Great stuff man. Really good stuff!

  • @KingAce771 Thank you!  Peace!

  • what you call an A minor over C tritone is really a plain C13. C13 is usually spelled C, E, G, Bb, D, A. Formula is 1,3,5,b7,9,13. All of a sudden the 1 chord becomes a temporary V or secondary dominant to go to the IV chord which is a temporary I chord. Tritone dominant substitution is dominant 7th chords 3 whole steps away from each other or a diminished 5th away which is the same as 3 whole steps. Good stuff. At least you are sharing.

  • @iluvjazz7 I already know the theory, however, this video was done strictly for those who don't yet fully understand the theory. If you saw what I did, I was playing just what the title says...Triads Over Tritones. This is for the beginners who want to play while they learn the theory.

  • wow those are some awesome chords sounds really good...too bad im really a beginner and have no idea what youre talking about loll

  • @willdill You will learn, and I will help.

  • thank you. that was very nice of you. take care

  • @vidalfam Thank you for watching. To share is love! Peace!

  • nice, very helpful

  • @adamsbatt25 I'm glad! Peace!!!

  • How about just keeping it easy and simple for those who don't quite understand the theory. That's why I called it "Triads Over Tritones".

  • these are called "upper structures"

    its works this way f.e in the key of C You take the tritone of C 7 chord (E and B flat) in the left hand, and in the right hand you take a major triad over it. You can see it as a kid of a substitution for more complicated chord structures or "difficult chords made easy" :)

    The most common possibilties are :

    D triad - this would be called Upper Structure II because is a major 2 away from the root (C) and it represents the Lydian Dominant chord (C7 11+)

  • E flat - upper structure III flat (a minor 3 away from the root ) gives You C79+ (diminished)

    G flat -U.S.Vflat (a tritone away from the root) gives You C7 11+ (/Dimished/Altered)

    A flat - U.S. VI flat (a minor 6 away from the root) gives You C7 Alt (altered)

    A - U.S. VI (a 6 away from the root) it gives You C7 9- (diminished)

  • Now take exact same structures ( C7 tritone in the left and one of the triads in the right) but substitute the C in the bass with F sharp (tritone substitution) and see what happened - we have Fsharp upper structures :) but ofcourse not the same as in C -f.e. C7 u.s. II with F# in the bass turns into F# u.s. VI flat

    there is more of this stuff, also with minor triads, i recommend to check it out

    Hope this explained a little bit more

    Greetings!

    Onekirme

  • Excellent! Right amount of talk, right amount of text, and the rest playing! Well done.

    I never really picked up the triad-over-tritone thing til I saw this!

    Nicely done, just the way one musician would show another, I think. Gonna go try it!

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  • Yes, this is a fantastic way of presenting these concepts. I'm sitting here in awe and INSPIRED to get on my keys and work these out. Great lesson, man! THANK YOU!

  • Beautifully done. You never know what's going to make the impression. For me, it is the physical demonstration of the theory. To hear you play a string of triad overlays puts the concept in the context I need. Thanks

  • @MOATOH Thank you, Sir! Peace and blessings.

  • i usually wouldnt play the chords that have an F in it over that tritone. cause of the flat9 e to f. but when you do it it sounds great. like Db major triad. unusual but very nice.

  • @sandalero Thanks!

  • Hey nice vid,

    But I'm confused as to why E-Bb is a tritone sub for Cmaj9...I thought the chord a tritone away from C is F#?

  • @nkredible2009 F# is the tritone of C, but I'm using the tritone within the C dominant 7 chord which is E (3rd) and Bb (b7 or dom 7).

  • yes i must say i enjoyed this video. Very helpful.

  • @butterz1229 Thank you, and I'm glad it was helpful.

  • ejdog2000@israelprince put me on to i wanna buy....

  • I want to buy your dvd tutorial!

  • @bratniki I'll put you on my mailing list and notify you when it's ready.

  • What exactly is a "tritone"? People throw this term around and I've been playing for 6 years now and can't get anyone to nail down the definition,

    Thanks

  • @1138pratt ok, I'll try without sounding too technical... A "tri-tone" is an augmented fourth chord or a diminished fifth chord.

  • @1stclassrecordings So in essence, your diminishing the 5th and or raising the 4th a half step? How's that not a sus4?

  • @1138pratt

    Major = 1-3-5

    Sus 2 = 1-2-5

    Sus 4 = 1-4-5

    For some reason, i don't think that 1-4#-5 exists as a chord in itself...

    I though tit might of been a Sus 4#.... i can't find that chord name anywhere!

  • @Splurgendii I know 1-2-5 as an add9 chord. But Sus4 I know very well as a means to intensify the resolve.

  • @1138pratt  A 1-2-5 = Sus 2, Add9 = 1-3-5-9

  • holy crap... i'm a guitar player.. wow this opens up a lot of stuff... this is exactly what i need to break out.. thank you so much..

  • Michael Thierry, you have definitely helped me with my music theory! May God continue to bless you and your hands.

    P.S. When did you first start playing piano/ how long have you been playing? Just wondering.

  • Your hope was done, it really helped me, thanks a lot, new sonorities are about to be born in my head ^^

  • @yostockbroker You're welcome.  Peace to you and yours.

  • like that

  • Thank you.  Peace and blessings.

  • Great video. One of the best tutorials. I was hoping if u can play a song with tritones and hopefully explain the ways or any logic one can use it.

  • Thanks for the post! It helped me :)

  • Thank you for your comment, however, my tutorials are for musicians who are trying to move forward in their learning. The question of whether God exists or not didn't quite come to mind while making these tutorials. I'm certainly open to that discussion but just not on my videos. Peace.

  • dont hurt us brother, thank you for your time in educating us..bless you

  • You're welcome. Thank you for watching. Peace and blessings to you and yours.

  • Thanks Dude

  • You're welcome and thank YOU for watching. Peace and blessings.

  • I'm using all these chords 4 guitar man, this is nice

  • It would be cool to here it on guitar. Thanks. Peace and blessings.

  • yeaiyo

  • Thank you! Peace and blessings.

  • WOW. Doc, you got a new student and customer. I'm can't wait until the dvd comes out. We've been soaken up alot of good instructional videos but your posting is like a breath of fresh air.

  • Hey, thank you for watching and for your wonderful comments, and the DVD will be ready soon. I will thoroughly cover and explain the details about tritones. I think you and many will be very satisfied. It's going to be a big bang for a very affordable price. Thank you again. Peace and blessings to you and yours.

  • Man that sounded sooo goood! Thanks for sharing that!

  • Thank you much. Peace to you and yours.

  • Man! You are so happening as a good teacher and generous spirit. Bravo. This put some wind in my sails as I have been trying to make sense of Mark Levine's book "Jazz Piano". Esp. the chapter on Upper structures. ...You bring it home and make it real.

    Thanks

  • Thank you. I could never get anyone to help me and I promised myself that if I ever learned, I would not be stingy. "Jazz Piano" by Mark Levine is a great book though it takes some effort to understand. I have it and am studying it also. Thank you once again. Peace and blessings.

  • these could be used as approaches as well to c natural right?

  • Sure they can.

  • Excellent!! Thank you so much for sharing this. Remain blessed

  • Thank you, and you're welcome, Chevonee. Peace, love, and great blessings to you.

  • Thank you. that cleared up a lot of fuzziness in my mind about tritones subs. I would be interested in the dvd when available.

    Thanks again

  • You're welcome! I'm glad it helped. I promise the DVD will have lots of material that you can use. I'll go more indepth into the when and where you can use different tritones.

  • Where do you play tritones and how do you decide passing chrds

  • I will to explain how I use tritones as passing chords in my next clip on youtube. Peace to you!

  • five star

    amazingggg those chords are magical

  • Thank you much. I hope it helps. Peace to you and yours.

  • this is fantastic!!! tri-tones did my head in, i just couldnt work out what chord went with a tri-tone!!! now i can!

  • Look for another video soon to further break down how I know what triads to play over the tritone.

  • OK so i have a theory question. How do you know what chords to use with the tri-tone? Is the tri-tone always on your right hand?

  • Email me. I'll explain how I know.

  • Dude, if you are intermediate, then i must be like below beginner!

  • thank you so very much. this is a great

    lesson on tritones. thank for posting this.

  • You're very much welcome. I hope it helps. Peace and love.

  • wow this really drove the concept home ,.!!

    excellent explanation!!

  • I'm happy that it helped.  So I see that it wasn't in vain. Peace and love.

  • sounds great israel!!! Can you post me the actual chords please.

  • I explained them in the video, but send me your email address. I'll send them to you.

  • Fat Chords at 7:22!!!!!

  • Thank you. Peace and love!!!

  • Wow, this was awesome! Very helpful, thanks a lot.

  • Thank you, and I'm happy it was helpful. Peace to you.

  • Really nice video, Michael. Excellent material and presentation. *****

  • Coming from you, sir, with your expertise I am eternally grateful.

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