religion divides families, the opposite of what Christmas is supposed to do. Conservatives make technology progress more slowly and people less economically proficient, Christmas is about the middle class spoiling themselves with what little they were able to save, so that they had a nifty little thing that injects a little bit of joy into the entire year. If anyone us anti Christmas it is conservative Christians.
Personally I think youtubers like JF and togetherforpeace are much more sinister and dangerous than the shockofgod types. The latter are trolls looking for a fight, we all know it, so do they. It is a game (albeit a childish one). The JFs & TFPs have the pretence of people wanting to engage in talking & debate - but are only interested in trying to suppress rational thought & sustain their own delusions. Creepy to see JFs indoctrinating his daughter.
Excellent pwnage! But I doubt he'll listen because you used the "f" word (gasp!) and that offends him. And I can hear him telling his daughter (and perhaps to himself) that "you hear all that profanity coming from his mouth my dear? Well that makes his entire answer moot and inconsequential..."
Good analysis. It really bothered me to see JF feeding his daughter the same tired answers masquerading as questions as he is in the habit of "posing" to atheists.
THANK YOU to be honest it gets really frustrating when you reply to people over and over again with the same replies and they just don't want to see them preferring to put fingers in their ears.
"At what point do you start to move on and act like an adult and not a child? Eight second memory. Hey, next year if you want I'll just re-upload this so you can get the same answers again."
Epic finish for an epic video. It's on videos like this that I miss my 5* button.
Well PR you did it again i applaud you in a well explained video i am a Christian as well you know and i agree it HAS BECOME a Commercialized Season .but the thing i still have a problem with is i enjoy saying Merry Christmas i have my Children force feed at school to say Happy Holiday and is Chastised if they say Merry Christmas saying they might offend other Children of different beliefs
So Yes There is a problem in our Society with people being free to speak what they want that is the sad case thank you for giving me the forum but we do agree that it should not matter and people like Jezus does not speak for all of us and there are Christian parents who do not stifle our Children from learn all facts and all figures when they Question our Beliefs
Asking your question about Anthony is like asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop. No one has the patience to find out because the amount of time it seems it will take feels like an eternity. ;-)
@proportionalresponse Your name says it all, but well said. And I might start celebrating a day in the year with a trip to the cinema, as with kids I don't get to go often now.
Is your python in that tank behind you or do you have another pet? Curious, I have red-eared sliders and noticed it.
Also, good response. People really do take a commercialized event and make it into something sacred.
As for the initial question, I've always wondered why the hell anyone has to say anything at all. Hello and goodbye have always worked just fine for me...
This is a very fine video because it addresses a major theme among the deniers of science. I have spent 9 months trying to educate deniers of human-caused climate change in the Usenet newsgroup alt.climate-change and I have found that *NONE* of them retain the correct answers to the questions they ask for longer than a few hours. They constantly demand the answers to the same questions, daily, and they ignore the correct answers. I have spent hours answering physics questions, and they retain 0.
Wow! One of the best videos I've seen on this subject for a very long time.
I don't think that most Theists understand just how gentle most aTheists are in their conversations with them. People, like jezuzfreek and TogetherforPeace, put on an air of engaging in rational discussion but they'll only go so far. I've seen many aTheists who have taken much time and effort to gently console a Theist that opening their mind will not only NOT send them to Hell but actually will be rewarding. Thanks.
@Gotrilliten I began purposefully typing aTheist rather than atheist about 6 months ago for the following reason. While some people understand the etymology of the word "atheism" very many seem not to understand and, because the word ends in "ism", these people assume that "atheism" is a belief system. They don't understand that it is only the latter two parts of the word that refer to a belief system i.e. "The" god + "ism" belief. Putting the "a" in front just means "not".
If I'm honest, I wouldn't care if someone said merry Christmas or happy holidays (though the whole happy holidays thing is a bit alien to me, don't really hear it in the UK.)
Why should someone get so wound up over a simple arrangement of words which simply wish good tidings upon the receiver?
@MoonHeadJohn Its America, its different here. Its a war on Christmas apparently. No one cares really about how you say it, fundamentalists tend to sensationalize everything, and the media reinforces it. Its weird, lots of propaganda during the cold war, I think it might have something to do with it.
What puzzles me is why so many christians feel the need to turn a simple wish for their well-being ("Happy holidays!") into an attack on their religion.
I really liked this video! I hadn't watched it because the title made it sound boring and unappealing, but when thetruepooka recommended it I figured I would give it a shot.
New Year's is also a holiday. Also, as I am an Atheist and I wished people people a Merry Christmas. Shit, I was returned a Merry Christmas from a Buddhist. The word Christmas is just that, a word. Just like 'happy' and 'holidays'.
Happy Holidays is old as hell. Bing Crosby sung a song about it in what, the late 40's? There are several holidays during that time, has no one clued him in on that?
There's no way I'm ever watching one of Jezuzfreek's videos, but you say his daughter is inquisitive?
Either she's adopted, or he hasn't beaten it out of her yet, is my guess. Spare the rod, and all that. Or rather, "Prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell". Or "Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes".
It does go on about beating children, the bible does...
Great video, Greg. I love Xmas, though we don't usually call it 'Holidays', as those are vacations to us and we do that in the summer. However, the 'holidays' term has started to creep in.
This made me masturbate . . 8sec. . .my whole life
I celebrate Festivus. What is this Christmas thing? It sounds like something out of ancient mythology, and why is this Easter thing determined by a complex mathematical procedure? Didn't This Jesus fellow die on a specific day? Just as he was born on one? Someone should know. Right? So why is the day he died moved around and celebrated? I smell something fishy.
Whenever a Christian asks me why I as an atheist celebrate Christmas, I say "for the same reason that I as an American celebrate Cinqo de Mayo and the same reason why you as a German/Frenchman/whatever celebrate St Patrick's Day with corned beef. Because I like being a part of a community."
Hmmm... I think the answer to "how long does it take JF777 to get something through his head" would require one of Ozmoroid's hyper-detailed super awesome mathematical diagram-y physics-laden laff-gasm style videos.
Hell to the fucking yeah mean, fuckin LOVE Waffle House. That is an AWESOME tradition. I may steal it. Geography of southern US: Church, church, church, house, Pentecostal church, bank, church church church WAFFLE HOUSE church house giant Crucifix house house WAFFLE HOUSE church.
"Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions, by inhibiting our decisions out of, ...out of fear of some - some intangible parent figure who, who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says, and says, "Do it... do it and I'll fuckin' spank you." ~ Loki
Jesusfool is a bit of a half-wit, but he still bears responsibility for raising his kids under the abusive belief that they are born evil and are rightfully destined for eternal damnation unless they believe in his painfully shy jealous wizard in the clouds. He is a good example of the psychological abuse that people of "faith" impose on their children, who often do not live in an insulated bubble as their parents do, but live in the real world where magical belief has no credibility or value.
kind of like people who tell kids the stork story when they ask how babies are made...im not afraid of biology and i dont want my kids to be either....
His daughter thinks people say "happy holidays" to avoid offending atheists? Uh . . . Does he honestly believe she won't eventually discover that there are many different religions which all have their own winter holiday? Is he planning on keeping her confined to the house with no internet access or educational material of any kind for the rest of her life? Because it would require nothing short of that to accomplish such a blinding.
I like the relative age scenario. I use that to explain why time seems to go by quicker as we grow older. Our experience of it is likely as a ratio to our lifetime. Nice work here. Maybe he is a goldfish, and not a lizard, after all.
Well done! I'm mad at myself for missing this when you put it out. JF won't pay attention to a thing you said and you hit the nail right on the head. He's an ignorant closed minded person and he doesn't care what anyone else has to say. I caught him on Stickam one night bashing theamazingAtheist for the banana thing. Then he went on to defend VenomFangX's taking of charity money. To say he's dense is a major understatement.
When I was new to YouTube, I would do some responses to JF. While I never knew the goldfish thing, my impression was basically exactly that and stopped bothering with him.
Thanksgiving was originally supposed to be a day of fasting according too Time Magazine, and the Native Americans made it into a feast. I think it had something to do with Puritanical principles to showing gratitude by giving up food for a day. I think all holidays are pretty much adaptations of earlier events.
Only 470 billion?! Invading Iraq could have been extended another five months on that money! Killing harmless defenseless people should have higher priority over being generous and kind to them.
I'm an Atheist I say merry x-mas to people and celebrate Christmas, I put up a nice big xmas tree and lights every year. It's more of a family/American tradition than religious.
people want to know about the reasons behind holidays. it's like saying that thanks giving is enough of an explanation to why it is an American Holiday. but it is not, people want to know why it is an Holiday. history is not an Holiday.
i think you're wrong, although i accept that people do say happy Holiday's this i believe is a fashion. people want to know why it is a Holiday and the origin of what this Holiday is about. although 25th December has it roots in many religious symbols, people will want to know about them. it will never be "just a Holiday"
yea ppl can celbrate xmas however they want, i agree. but i draw the line when christians say that the origins of xmas is cuz of jesus or say that christmas is all about jesus' birth when it clearly isnt. i would love it if christians would jus celebrate however they want but shu tha fuck up when it comes to the history of xmas
@ProportionalResponse So, what you're saying is that I shouldn't take your Thanksgiving tradition (going to a Waffle house and a movie), hijack it, sprinkle some atheism on it, call it Atheistmas, then get mad at you when you fail to see (thereby offending me) the that the "true" reason for the season is a sprinkle of atheism?
That's an absurdly reasonable notion... one which many in this great nation of ours simply won't understand.
I agree with everything except for the birthplace of flight thing. haha.
You say that the birthplace of flight is North Carolina.
Here's the counterpoint. The Wright Brothers were from Ohio, they developed their theories about flight technology in Ohio, they built the first working plane in Ohio, then they ran their first test flight in a state that had the right weather conditions, North Carolina. Does North Carolina really deserve the credit?
@ProportionalResponse That's not really a refutation or a counterargument. It's just a specification of which city in North Carolina the Wright Brothers chose for their test flight.
CoonAndFriends2 had the "Wright" idea. Did I just "Wright" that? I hate myself. haha
@cornballjapery Who gives a shit about birthplace? You can trace The Wright Brothers back to a German, Dutch, English ethnicity, does that mean it was a collaborative effort between those countries that gave the world flight? No, just like it doesn't matter where they built it, thought it, or any of that shit. All North Carolina has ever claimed (as stamped on their license plates) is "First in Flight". Will you deny that? Can you deny that? No? Then there is no counterpoint to make.
@southmcl Well first of all a lot of people care about birthplace and ethnicity, but that isn't what this is about at all. I never mentioned it. I mentioned where the Wright Brothers lived and worked, which I consider to be more significant than where they took a field trip to. North Carolina essentially claims credit for the invention. Would I deny that? Yeah. Before this goes any further, I must say that I don't actually care about this issue. I have an opinion, but no real emotion.
You met your woman in Ohio, married in Ohio, planned your family in Ohio, made love in Ohio, and when the time was right, your girl gave birth to a beautiful baby in an excellent hospital in North Carolina. What is the birthplace of the baby?
@cornballjapery Let me simplify this, because I get so tired of hearing this argument. Where was the first successful flight? No if's, and's, or but's. Just answer the question. Also, to clarify, not both wright brothers were from Ohio. Wilbur was born somewhere in Indiana, so I guess they were also the birthplace of flight, right?
As an atheist woman, watching this, I think I just got a taste of your stress level. It's not worth it. That was 10 minutes of literal wasting your time trying to explain something to someone who obviously does NOT want to open up his narrow mind. As of his kid, you nore, can I, force upon that man on how to raise his child. It's the same way we atheists can't force our theories, opinions, onto others but hope someone might hear us and something might click in their head.
I suggest you follow your own advice, and follow the money to explain why there is a War on Christmas. Fox News has a mostly conservative viewership, that hates every social change that will make people less religious or less "patriotic" or less capitalistic. The thought of Christians being persecuted by atheists is very appealing to these viewers, and therefore there is a market for media that conveys this message. Ergo, you get the War on Christmas on Fox News.
8:59 Atheists are such a minority it is idiotic for him to assume that--if he actually believed it at all. It is more likely his response was for the benefit of the camera--a chance at a shameless plug for his bronze age beliefs and to put down atheists.
I enjoyed your critique of this moron and his fatuous question.
What a prick. I usually enjoy Greg's vids, but he has been coming off far too bitter and hostile lately. Greg, why the hostility? You seem like a humanitarian oriented person, but how does this demeanor further your cause?
@edelweissnpa Lately? Which vids have I made lately that make me appear bitter and hostile? Lacks of integrity anger me, more so, when coupled with hypocrisy.
I have some latent anger after being lied to for the duration of my childhood; Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and the Magic Baby born on December 25.
I express my anger at anyone I catch lying to children: Parents, Priests, etc. Especially on 'Holidays'.
I think the question was Jesusfreek's creation, it is clear that his poor daughter is being made to read from a script on the dashboard, only looking at the camera occasionally.
This video was precisely what I've tried to tell EVERYBODY in my life since day 1. I actually choose NOT to celebrate the holiday (to which everybody generally responds "You don't need to be religious to get presents")... but I don't give two shits who does or how they choose to. I don't care that people say "Merry Christmas". The ONLY thing I care about when it comes to the holidays are people who get offended when I DON'T say Merry Christmas... and people who won't let me not celebrate.
@YourDogIsDeadHAHA There was an auto accident not far from me while I was filming. I had to stop a few times when police / ambulances would go by, but yeah, except for that it was in one take. Sadly a woman died in that accident, so in retrospect, it's one of my sadder videos when I think about it. At some point between the start and the end of that video, about 300 yards away, a lady died, and on X-Mas eve (just for the extra uncoolness).
@PurpleGhost We can only hope that she keeps asking questions and maybe one day she'll even be an atheist herself. Sometimes that's what happens when parents force-feed religion to their children. The more the children learn about it the more they realize it all sounds like a load of crap.
this is SO true its spooky. as a theist i noticed the 8 second memories. church was so repetitive i feel now i could have gone ONCE and heard it all.
i understand elderly people who grew up with 1 book in the house which is the bible and entertainment was all night gospel sings. i can understand their mentality
it just sucks seeing humans spend the prime of their lives as heavens real estate salesmen/women
I would say, I was far too nice in my response to jezuzfreek. That's what I get for giving him the benefit of the doubt, as well not doing a background check.
When I watched JF's vid the other day, I was shaking my head saying to myself that the brainwashing on that little girl was well underway. So sad. And cruel.
Wow, you seem really mad (rightfully so) I don't think I've ever seen you genuinely angry at something before. I have seen you go David Silverman meme on someone (are you f'in serious? if you don't know it) but never mad. Merry Christmas, from one atheist to another. :D
@ProportionalResponse I got an iPod touch and a new webcam for Christmas. I donated, and I ate an awesome dinner with my family. Told everyone merry Christmas. I am very atheist, I think religion is evil, and most people are morons. I think religion should be abolished, etc etc. But, doesn't I can't enjoy myself. P.S. this is me just validating what you said. Loved the video man, great job. Oh, and merry Christmas. ;)
I left him a "shove your well wishing up your ass" comment on that video, because I was truly offended that he was using his daughter to further his and other peoples self indoctrination. And as you said he knowingly has his child speaking lies right beside him, and he reinforces it.
I think he is addicted to the attention he gets, to him its all Christian persecution and he loves the feeling of being persecuted for his beliefs. Personally I can't stand the prick.
LMAO on X-mas you upload a video picking on some goldfish christian xD this is hilarious, you really thought about this guy enough to honour him with uploading a video for him at x-mas?
Goldfish don't have an 8 second memory, they've been trained to run through mazes, that's a myth. At least that's what I remember my professor saying when I was in one of my psych courses.
I say Merry Christmas. I also say Happy Hanuka. I also say Happy Saturnalia.
ArcasDevlin 1 week ago
I just dont get Jezuzfreek777. He does not like to listen when people try to explain things to him.
KingOystar 3 weeks ago in playlist Liked videos
If a Christian asks why you celebrate Christmas, ask them why they celebrate Halloween.
DrShaym 1 month ago
Longest 8 seconds of my life.
SmilyFacez 1 month ago
Hey! I like canned cranberry sauce XD
LiftYourSkinnyFist 1 month ago
religion divides families, the opposite of what Christmas is supposed to do. Conservatives make technology progress more slowly and people less economically proficient, Christmas is about the middle class spoiling themselves with what little they were able to save, so that they had a nifty little thing that injects a little bit of joy into the entire year. If anyone us anti Christmas it is conservative Christians.
TheRepublicOfUngeria 1 month ago
This is a great vid - well said.
Personally I think youtubers like JF and togetherforpeace are much more sinister and dangerous than the shockofgod types. The latter are trolls looking for a fight, we all know it, so do they. It is a game (albeit a childish one). The JFs & TFPs have the pretence of people wanting to engage in talking & debate - but are only interested in trying to suppress rational thought & sustain their own delusions. Creepy to see JFs indoctrinating his daughter.
SAHBfan 1 month ago
Bravo!
anzhelo4ka 1 month ago
Intellectual immorality. As immoral as any other type of immorality.
Hyardacil 1 month ago
6 people are Jezuzfreek fans.
Daniel800 1 month ago
Some of my friends on Facebook posted this video, and, I have never seen any of your videos before, but just because of this one, I'm now subscribed.
Daniel800 1 month ago
interesting tape. i have spoken with JF loads of times and tried to explain things to him but he does not like to listen.
KingOystar 1 month ago
Excellent pwnage! But I doubt he'll listen because you used the "f" word (gasp!) and that offends him. And I can hear him telling his daughter (and perhaps to himself) that "you hear all that profanity coming from his mouth my dear? Well that makes his entire answer moot and inconsequential..."
melowar78 1 month ago
"Holiday" means "holy day", so anyone of any religion who's offended by it is an ignorant, whiney ass.
thethegreenmachine 1 month ago
OMFG! BEST VIDEO EVER!
KillingKeymo 1 month ago
I know that account. I've run across him about a year or more ago. He's like a broken record.
truvelocity 1 month ago
Good analysis. It really bothered me to see JF feeding his daughter the same tired answers masquerading as questions as he is in the habit of "posing" to atheists.
Blackmark52 1 month ago
Good highlighting of mental child abuse.
rebukeasitis 1 month ago
Beautiful. Neither I nor any of the other atheists I know give a shit whether they call it Christmas or not.
I like the phrase "aggressive ignorance." It seems to fit these YT apologists.
tctheunbeliever 1 month ago
Good response, but...I like the weird canned cranberry sauce. :))
WildwoodClaire1 1 month ago
THANK YOU to be honest it gets really frustrating when you reply to people over and over again with the same replies and they just don't want to see them preferring to put fingers in their ears.
MistressArte 1 month ago
"At what point do you start to move on and act like an adult and not a child? Eight second memory. Hey, next year if you want I'll just re-upload this so you can get the same answers again."
Epic finish for an epic video. It's on videos like this that I miss my 5* button.
renegade4dio 2 months ago
Well PR you did it again i applaud you in a well explained video i am a Christian as well you know and i agree it HAS BECOME a Commercialized Season .but the thing i still have a problem with is i enjoy saying Merry Christmas i have my Children force feed at school to say Happy Holiday and is Chastised if they say Merry Christmas saying they might offend other Children of different beliefs
doniecurry 2 months ago
So Yes There is a problem in our Society with people being free to speak what they want that is the sad case thank you for giving me the forum but we do agree that it should not matter and people like Jezus does not speak for all of us and there are Christian parents who do not stifle our Children from learn all facts and all figures when they Question our Beliefs
doniecurry 2 months ago
how long till jesusfreak gets information through his head? that was hilarious :D
777LexTalionis777 2 months ago
I'm pretty sure the goldfish thing is actually just an urban legend.
ColeMercury 2 months ago
if my girlfriend had an 8 second memory she would have been having a terrible sex experience for all her life
azur0x 2 months ago
@azur0x Rather, if you had an 8 second memory, your whole existence would be wrapped around either masturbating, or waiting between 2 sessions...
Szederp 2 months ago
Absolutely brilliant!
Strictlypointless 2 months ago
My experience with Jesusfreak777 is that he loves to PREACH, but he rarely ever LISTENS and ABSORBS.
He's a typical Fundie Xtian who's only interested in spreading his unsupported propaganda.
AtheistToothFairy 2 months ago
Nice response. Well done!
wayman29 2 months ago
I loved Oz and tried to never miss an episode.
Asking your question about Anthony is like asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop. No one has the patience to find out because the amount of time it seems it will take feels like an eternity. ;-)
mconn2112 2 months ago
@proportionalresponse Your name says it all, but well said. And I might start celebrating a day in the year with a trip to the cinema, as with kids I don't get to go often now.
rwburdett 2 months ago
Great response!
MsMrNoface 2 months ago
It's not that his memory is short, it's just that he keeps reloading a 2000 year old back-up every time he goes to church.
8WholeThing 2 months ago 2
bravo, Greg. nice response.
gothatfunk 2 months ago
Actually, New Zealanders reckon flight was born there, but they did not have a cine-camera. Off - topic and likely to start a flame war, sorry
NoFaithNoPain 2 months ago
Is your python in that tank behind you or do you have another pet? Curious, I have red-eared sliders and noticed it.
Also, good response. People really do take a commercialized event and make it into something sacred.
As for the initial question, I've always wondered why the hell anyone has to say anything at all. Hello and goodbye have always worked just fine for me...
saikanonojutsu 2 months ago
I think it's fair to call Ohio the "Birthplace of Aviation" in honor of the Wright Brothers. I don't know any of this Boeing stuff.
invaliddisplayname 2 months ago
I just subscribed.
AtSwimTwoBricks 2 months ago
You just earned yourself a subscription.
Great video, man.
Skindoggiedog 2 months ago
Well put.
Bruceelzebubba 2 months ago
This video made me lol irl. especially the last part.
marvyMAe 2 months ago
This is a very fine video because it addresses a major theme among the deniers of science. I have spent 9 months trying to educate deniers of human-caused climate change in the Usenet newsgroup alt.climate-change and I have found that *NONE* of them retain the correct answers to the questions they ask for longer than a few hours. They constantly demand the answers to the same questions, daily, and they ignore the correct answers. I have spent hours answering physics questions, and they retain 0.
Desertphile 2 months ago 24
Wow! One of the best videos I've seen on this subject for a very long time.
I don't think that most Theists understand just how gentle most aTheists are in their conversations with them. People, like jezuzfreek and TogetherforPeace, put on an air of engaging in rational discussion but they'll only go so far. I've seen many aTheists who have taken much time and effort to gently console a Theist that opening their mind will not only NOT send them to Hell but actually will be rewarding. Thanks.
1140Cecile 2 months ago 10
@1140Cecile Are you purposely saying "aTheists" or did you just typo that twice in a row? If not, then why?
Gotrilliten 1 month ago
@Gotrilliten I began purposefully typing aTheist rather than atheist about 6 months ago for the following reason. While some people understand the etymology of the word "atheism" very many seem not to understand and, because the word ends in "ism", these people assume that "atheism" is a belief system. They don't understand that it is only the latter two parts of the word that refer to a belief system i.e. "The" god + "ism" belief. Putting the "a" in front just means "not".
1140Cecile 1 month ago
@1140Cecile Ahh, I thought maybe you were doing the lameass "atheist = a theist" thing, but thought not just because of the tone of your comment.
Gotrilliten 1 month ago
If I'm honest, I wouldn't care if someone said merry Christmas or happy holidays (though the whole happy holidays thing is a bit alien to me, don't really hear it in the UK.)
Why should someone get so wound up over a simple arrangement of words which simply wish good tidings upon the receiver?
MoonHeadJohn 2 months ago
@MoonHeadJohn Its America, its different here. Its a war on Christmas apparently. No one cares really about how you say it, fundamentalists tend to sensationalize everything, and the media reinforces it. Its weird, lots of propaganda during the cold war, I think it might have something to do with it.
subnoize123 2 months ago
What puzzles me is why so many christians feel the need to turn a simple wish for their well-being ("Happy holidays!") into an attack on their religion.
roentgen571 2 months ago
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I really liked this video! I hadn't watched it because the title made it sound boring and unappealing, but when thetruepooka recommended it I figured I would give it a shot.
I'm happy to say that I was not disappointed.
Awesome fucking video!
GunbladeLH 2 months ago
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GunbladeLH 2 months ago
New Year's is also a holiday. Also, as I am an Atheist and I wished people people a Merry Christmas. Shit, I was returned a Merry Christmas from a Buddhist. The word Christmas is just that, a word. Just like 'happy' and 'holidays'.
chachee99 2 months ago
cant imagine anyone making a better video response then this one. phenomenal!
jakluk4 2 months ago
Nice job.
Came here via Pooka.
Subbed.
Candyliz2003 2 months ago
I loved Oz. It is a very underrated show, perhaps the most underrated show in HBO history (pretty much the predecessor to The Wire).
bubbamickmac 2 months ago
Happy Holidays is old as hell. Bing Crosby sung a song about it in what, the late 40's? There are several holidays during that time, has no one clued him in on that?
BillKiernan 2 months ago
EXCELLENT! Thanks for taking the time to respond to the gold fish.
thankthesnake 2 months ago
I posted a comment on his video that has the same idea of this video. now everyone will read my comment and think I'm copying off of you. :(
chadd990 2 months ago
There's no way I'm ever watching one of Jezuzfreek's videos, but you say his daughter is inquisitive?
Either she's adopted, or he hasn't beaten it out of her yet, is my guess. Spare the rod, and all that. Or rather, "Prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell". Or "Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes".
It does go on about beating children, the bible does...
EdwardHowton 2 months ago
I only remember the last 8 seconds of this video.
Morophin3 2 months ago
Great video, Greg. I love Xmas, though we don't usually call it 'Holidays', as those are vacations to us and we do that in the summer. However, the 'holidays' term has started to creep in.
mrgodbehere 2 months ago
Nice response, surprised I haven't heard of you earlier. Subbed
redlion7277 2 months ago
This made me masturbate . . 8sec. . .my whole life
I celebrate Festivus. What is this Christmas thing? It sounds like something out of ancient mythology, and why is this Easter thing determined by a complex mathematical procedure? Didn't This Jesus fellow die on a specific day? Just as he was born on one? Someone should know. Right? So why is the day he died moved around and celebrated? I smell something fishy.
pumpstations 2 months ago
Whenever a Christian asks me why I as an atheist celebrate Christmas, I say "for the same reason that I as an American celebrate Cinqo de Mayo and the same reason why you as a German/Frenchman/whatever celebrate St Patrick's Day with corned beef. Because I like being a part of a community."
gamutman 2 months ago
Hmmm... I think the answer to "how long does it take JF777 to get something through his head" would require one of Ozmoroid's hyper-detailed super awesome mathematical diagram-y physics-laden laff-gasm style videos.
Hell to the fucking yeah mean, fuckin LOVE Waffle House. That is an AWESOME tradition. I may steal it. Geography of southern US: Church, church, church, house, Pentecostal church, bank, church church church WAFFLE HOUSE church house giant Crucifix house house WAFFLE HOUSE church.
bunnygotfree 2 months ago
"Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions, by inhibiting our decisions out of, ...out of fear of some - some intangible parent figure who, who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says, and says, "Do it... do it and I'll fuckin' spank you." ~ Loki
AvalonDraconis 2 months ago
Jesusfool is a bit of a half-wit, but he still bears responsibility for raising his kids under the abusive belief that they are born evil and are rightfully destined for eternal damnation unless they believe in his painfully shy jealous wizard in the clouds. He is a good example of the psychological abuse that people of "faith" impose on their children, who often do not live in an insulated bubble as their parents do, but live in the real world where magical belief has no credibility or value.
TheAnniepies 2 months ago
kind of like people who tell kids the stork story when they ask how babies are made...im not afraid of biology and i dont want my kids to be either....
And that was kind of off topic.
naturalistmind 2 months ago
goldfish have a memory of weeks, not 8 seconds, thats an urban myth.
rahulpower 2 months ago 2
great response.
TheRenekruse 2 months ago
His daughter thinks people say "happy holidays" to avoid offending atheists? Uh . . . Does he honestly believe she won't eventually discover that there are many different religions which all have their own winter holiday? Is he planning on keeping her confined to the house with no internet access or educational material of any kind for the rest of her life? Because it would require nothing short of that to accomplish such a blinding.
shrikechan 2 months ago
But now he has a daughter. So he has to brain wash her too.
MrRationalgaze 2 months ago
I like the relative age scenario. I use that to explain why time seems to go by quicker as we grow older. Our experience of it is likely as a ratio to our lifetime. Nice work here. Maybe he is a goldfish, and not a lizard, after all.
RichardRoy2 2 months ago
One more thing, I spent Thanksgiving with a small group of people...including an American Indian. Talk about irony.
TheCurmudgen 2 months ago
Well done! I'm mad at myself for missing this when you put it out. JF won't pay attention to a thing you said and you hit the nail right on the head. He's an ignorant closed minded person and he doesn't care what anyone else has to say. I caught him on Stickam one night bashing theamazingAtheist for the banana thing. Then he went on to defend VenomFangX's taking of charity money. To say he's dense is a major understatement.
TheCurmudgen 2 months ago
When I was new to YouTube, I would do some responses to JF. While I never knew the goldfish thing, my impression was basically exactly that and stopped bothering with him.
CaseAgainstFaith1 2 months ago
i realy enjoyed that
prowled 2 months ago
I like cranberry sauce!
TheAnubisDrake 2 months ago
OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!
NEGATIONofP 2 months ago
Best video you made this year, fucking awesome.
TheZamario 2 months ago
PropResponse,
Really well done.
MrSamuelSpade 2 months ago
Thanksgiving was originally supposed to be a day of fasting according too Time Magazine, and the Native Americans made it into a feast. I think it had something to do with Puritanical principles to showing gratitude by giving up food for a day. I think all holidays are pretty much adaptations of earlier events.
MrSamuelSpade 2 months ago
Good vid. But I don't think goldfish have an 8 second memory.
bkraegenbrink 2 months ago
Atheists are offended by people saying "Merry Christmas"? That's odd.
CMO999 2 months ago
Excellent video!!!!
kelliko70 2 months ago
Only 470 billion?! Invading Iraq could have been extended another five months on that money! Killing harmless defenseless people should have higher priority over being generous and kind to them.
Desertphile 2 months ago
classic pwnage. Good job
Andermander 2 months ago
I'm an Atheist I say merry x-mas to people and celebrate Christmas, I put up a nice big xmas tree and lights every year. It's more of a family/American tradition than religious.
from212 2 months ago
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."
donnybgood 2 months ago
loved this...im an athiest...i say merry christmas
xX4monX4m4rthXx 2 months ago
people want to know about the reasons behind holidays. it's like saying that thanks giving is enough of an explanation to why it is an American Holiday. but it is not, people want to know why it is an Holiday. history is not an Holiday.
aaugoaa 2 months ago
i think you're wrong, although i accept that people do say happy Holiday's this i believe is a fashion. people want to know why it is a Holiday and the origin of what this Holiday is about. although 25th December has it roots in many religious symbols, people will want to know about them. it will never be "just a Holiday"
aaugoaa 2 months ago
People have been saying "happy holidays" since the 1940's at least.
The War on Christmas may have been started by lifelong Catholic Bing Crosby. /watch?v=3k_q_UMI3tQ But not atheists.
This "happy holidays" attack on atheists is same Christian propaganda as those blaming us for Nazism, abortion, feminism, drug addiction, etc.,
geodgereturns 2 months ago
as an atheist, i don't give two shits if people say merry christmas to me
skippydeenice 2 months ago
yea ppl can celbrate xmas however they want, i agree. but i draw the line when christians say that the origins of xmas is cuz of jesus or say that christmas is all about jesus' birth when it clearly isnt. i would love it if christians would jus celebrate however they want but shu tha fuck up when it comes to the history of xmas
crownvvc4 2 months ago
@ProportionalResponse So, what you're saying is that I shouldn't take your Thanksgiving tradition (going to a Waffle house and a movie), hijack it, sprinkle some atheism on it, call it Atheistmas, then get mad at you when you fail to see (thereby offending me) the that the "true" reason for the season is a sprinkle of atheism?
That's an absurdly reasonable notion... one which many in this great nation of ours simply won't understand.
OjLeno 2 months ago
Boom!!! I like this guy.
RuGr8tful2 2 months ago
This video is longer than 8 seconds.
MrEoinom44 2 months ago 13
@MrEoinom44 unlike my history with sex.
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago 37
I agree with everything except for the birthplace of flight thing. haha.
You say that the birthplace of flight is North Carolina.
Here's the counterpoint. The Wright Brothers were from Ohio, they developed their theories about flight technology in Ohio, they built the first working plane in Ohio, then they ran their first test flight in a state that had the right weather conditions, North Carolina. Does North Carolina really deserve the credit?
cornballjapery 2 months ago
@cornballjapery None. Only the Wright brothers deserve the credit.
CoonAndFriends2 2 months ago
@CoonAndFriends2 Touche Jackie Robinson.
cornballjapery 2 months ago
@cornballjapery Kitty Hawk. =)
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago
@ProportionalResponse That's not really a refutation or a counterargument. It's just a specification of which city in North Carolina the Wright Brothers chose for their test flight.
CoonAndFriends2 had the "Wright" idea. Did I just "Wright" that? I hate myself. haha
cornballjapery 2 months ago
@cornballjapery read MinervaInTheBrain's comments near the bottom, and my reply.
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago
@ProportionalResponse Ahh, it all makes sense now. Thanks, I never would have noticed that.
cornballjapery 2 months ago
@cornballjapery Who gives a shit about birthplace? You can trace The Wright Brothers back to a German, Dutch, English ethnicity, does that mean it was a collaborative effort between those countries that gave the world flight? No, just like it doesn't matter where they built it, thought it, or any of that shit. All North Carolina has ever claimed (as stamped on their license plates) is "First in Flight". Will you deny that? Can you deny that? No? Then there is no counterpoint to make.
southmcl 2 months ago
@southmcl Well first of all a lot of people care about birthplace and ethnicity, but that isn't what this is about at all. I never mentioned it. I mentioned where the Wright Brothers lived and worked, which I consider to be more significant than where they took a field trip to. North Carolina essentially claims credit for the invention. Would I deny that? Yeah. Before this goes any further, I must say that I don't actually care about this issue. I have an opinion, but no real emotion.
cornballjapery 2 months ago
@cornballjapery 4 years is a lengthy field trip but whatever. It's a logo stamped on a license plate, a bit ridiculous that the "issue" even exists.
southmcl 2 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@cornballjapery
You met your woman in Ohio, married in Ohio, planned your family in Ohio, made love in Ohio, and when the time was right, your girl gave birth to a beautiful baby in an excellent hospital in North Carolina. What is the birthplace of the baby?
;-)
laflugantabastardo 2 months ago
@cornballjapery Let me simplify this, because I get so tired of hearing this argument. Where was the first successful flight? No if's, and's, or but's. Just answer the question. Also, to clarify, not both wright brothers were from Ohio. Wilbur was born somewhere in Indiana, so I guess they were also the birthplace of flight, right?
southmcl 2 months ago
But if he did that he wouldn't be able to brainwash her.
TheTruePooka 2 months ago
As an atheist woman, watching this, I think I just got a taste of your stress level. It's not worth it. That was 10 minutes of literal wasting your time trying to explain something to someone who obviously does NOT want to open up his narrow mind. As of his kid, you nore, can I, force upon that man on how to raise his child. It's the same way we atheists can't force our theories, opinions, onto others but hope someone might hear us and something might click in their head.
KBeOKEH 2 months ago
lol, JIZZusfreak.
MrRussian19 2 months ago
I do it for inclusion and efficiency.
FattyMcFox 2 months ago
Well said my friend
sofiadragon1979 2 months ago
Saw this video in DarkMatter2525's favorites, fucking brilliant, subscribing.
mirex951 2 months ago
@mirex951 Same here.
obamatron100 2 months ago
I suggest you follow your own advice, and follow the money to explain why there is a War on Christmas. Fox News has a mostly conservative viewership, that hates every social change that will make people less religious or less "patriotic" or less capitalistic. The thought of Christians being persecuted by atheists is very appealing to these viewers, and therefore there is a market for media that conveys this message. Ergo, you get the War on Christmas on Fox News.
CoonAndFriends2 2 months ago
not gonna lie, i loled at your 2:02 "mmkay", excellent video though!
SLRCRowbot 2 months ago
@SLRCRowbot lol i didnt catch that the first time :)
obamatron100 2 months ago
That is a good lookin' nerd.
HosstheBossRoss 2 months ago 2
@HosstheBossRoss It's my hair. I've been using a new shampoo. It makes my hair more full, and manageable.
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago 4
@ProportionalResponse
8:59 Atheists are such a minority it is idiotic for him to assume that--if he actually believed it at all. It is more likely his response was for the benefit of the camera--a chance at a shameless plug for his bronze age beliefs and to put down atheists.
I enjoyed your critique of this moron and his fatuous question.
0gods 2 months ago
Great Video though!
mylkTV 2 months ago
What a prick. I usually enjoy Greg's vids, but he has been coming off far too bitter and hostile lately. Greg, why the hostility? You seem like a humanitarian oriented person, but how does this demeanor further your cause?
edelweissnpa 2 months ago
@edelweissnpa Lately? Which vids have I made lately that make me appear bitter and hostile? Lacks of integrity anger me, more so, when coupled with hypocrisy.
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago 14
Gold fish don't have a memory of 8 seconds. It's a myth.
mylkTV 2 months ago
@mylkTV
Not really the point.
AnonEyeMouse 2 months ago
I have some latent anger after being lied to for the duration of my childhood; Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and the Magic Baby born on December 25.
I express my anger at anyone I catch lying to children: Parents, Priests, etc. Especially on 'Holidays'.
dkleitsch 2 months ago
I think the question was Jesusfreek's creation, it is clear that his poor daughter is being made to read from a script on the dashboard, only looking at the camera occasionally.
TheTomtompiper 2 months ago
That was fucking Great. Have a Great Day.
JesusFknChrist666 2 months ago
Amazing video. Sub!
chicarbiomed 2 months ago
Thank you.
VarmitCoyote 2 months ago
Christopher Hitchens would approve of this video.
KenpoMike2011 2 months ago 5
This video was precisely what I've tried to tell EVERYBODY in my life since day 1. I actually choose NOT to celebrate the holiday (to which everybody generally responds "You don't need to be religious to get presents")... but I don't give two shits who does or how they choose to. I don't care that people say "Merry Christmas". The ONLY thing I care about when it comes to the holidays are people who get offended when I DON'T say Merry Christmas... and people who won't let me not celebrate.
Marcownz747 2 months ago
Did you do this in one take? If so, that's quite impressive.
YourDogIsDeadHAHA 2 months ago
@YourDogIsDeadHAHA There was an auto accident not far from me while I was filming. I had to stop a few times when police / ambulances would go by, but yeah, except for that it was in one take. Sadly a woman died in that accident, so in retrospect, it's one of my sadder videos when I think about it. At some point between the start and the end of that video, about 300 yards away, a lady died, and on X-Mas eve (just for the extra uncoolness).
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago
He has a child?! D:
I didn't even know that... I feel so sad for her... I hope that she manages to keep her inquisitive nature.
Maybe she will someday be able to be her own person... :\
PurpleGhost 2 months ago
@PurpleGhost You and me both. I really hope she doesn't get too fucked up.
VarmitCoyote 2 months ago
@PurpleGhost We can only hope that she keeps asking questions and maybe one day she'll even be an atheist herself. Sometimes that's what happens when parents force-feed religion to their children. The more the children learn about it the more they realize it all sounds like a load of crap.
pokermel 2 months ago
this is SO true its spooky. as a theist i noticed the 8 second memories. church was so repetitive i feel now i could have gone ONCE and heard it all.
i understand elderly people who grew up with 1 book in the house which is the bible and entertainment was all night gospel sings. i can understand their mentality
it just sucks seeing humans spend the prime of their lives as heavens real estate salesmen/women
but its their lives,
wideosvatcher 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
Goldfish don't have an 8 second memory. they have pretty good memories
ninja4beast 2 months ago
I like you :)
SezSays 2 months ago
Faith is confidence or trust in a person or thing, or a belief that is not a fact ! google
flexbrat 2 months ago
Did you know that smoking pot harms your short term memory?
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Did you know that smoking pot harms your short term memory?
leflipmo 2 months ago
Cool. An answers to jesus archive...or.. another one.
The others obviously were not sufficient.
I really don't people that fight against education (like jesusfreak).
9mjb 2 months ago
File under pwnage
alexporterfield 2 months ago
He will get it into his head when you write it in his bible.
RakaTheTenacious 2 months ago
I would say, I was far too nice in my response to jezuzfreek. That's what I get for giving him the benefit of the doubt, as well not doing a background check.
santora1957 2 months ago
When I watched JF's vid the other day, I was shaking my head saying to myself that the brainwashing on that little girl was well underway. So sad. And cruel.
bvwatcher2 2 months ago
Waffle House and a movie... of course, there pretty much the only fucking things open.
deepashtray 2 months ago
Wow, you seem really mad (rightfully so) I don't think I've ever seen you genuinely angry at something before. I have seen you go David Silverman meme on someone (are you f'in serious? if you don't know it) but never mad. Merry Christmas, from one atheist to another. :D
racrguy 2 months ago
@racrguy /watch?v=sSSavwk9-O4 THIS is me when I'm mad, Racer.
ProportionalResponse 2 months ago
@ProportionalResponse Wow, I hadn't seen that video before. But yeah, that pisses me off too. I liked the (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ at the end. lol
racrguy 2 months ago
@ProportionalResponse I got an iPod touch and a new webcam for Christmas. I donated, and I ate an awesome dinner with my family. Told everyone merry Christmas. I am very atheist, I think religion is evil, and most people are morons. I think religion should be abolished, etc etc. But, doesn't I can't enjoy myself. P.S. this is me just validating what you said. Loved the video man, great job. Oh, and merry Christmas. ;)
PaperSoapy 2 months ago
Well put, hope he listens.
Happy New Year!
SKELTER1SKELTER 2 months ago
People often ask me why I celebrate christmas if I'm an atheist, and the answer is always the same:
1. It's My parents wedding aniversary.
2. I like to give things to my family since it's a comercial tradition (like you said).
And then I told them why THEY give gifts in christmas if that is not supposed to be the christian tradition. Thay get mad all the time.
asgard66669 2 months ago
Fuckin awesome! Loved that last bit too!
thursday315 2 months ago
What the fuck? I'm not subscribed to you yet!?
Wkterr 2 months ago
I left him a "shove your well wishing up your ass" comment on that video, because I was truly offended that he was using his daughter to further his and other peoples self indoctrination. And as you said he knowingly has his child speaking lies right beside him, and he reinforces it.
I think he is addicted to the attention he gets, to him its all Christian persecution and he loves the feeling of being persecuted for his beliefs. Personally I can't stand the prick.
Fucking great video PR.
123backinyerface 2 months ago 10
1 dislike? Guess who!
JAB63096 2 months ago
LMAO on X-mas you upload a video picking on some goldfish christian xD this is hilarious, you really thought about this guy enough to honour him with uploading a video for him at x-mas?
I really got to have a checkup on this stuff xD
TheGoatherdGod 2 months ago
right on!
ShaaaBang73 2 months ago
Goldfish don't have an 8 second memory, they've been trained to run through mazes, that's a myth. At least that's what I remember my professor saying when I was in one of my psych courses.
gator077 2 months ago
intelligence/logic = subcribed
AnytimeMinutes 2 months ago
I am pretty sure that is a pen I lost that your keep waving around & clicking!?!
... Oh, bang on video by the way!, ... superlative subbed & fave'd.
PiskieBenWa 2 months ago
The perfect explanation.
badboy19971976 2 months ago