Marshall Class 5 / Gibson Les Paul R7 (AC/DC, ZZTop)

[guillermoaguilera98]

is this amp loud enough for a band rehearsal ? (zeppelin, acdc, the who, and hendrix type of music)

[realdocloco]

@guillermoaguilera98 : not really if there's a real drummer around

[dylancollver]

Ok I have a question. I got this amp and it sounded amazing right out of the box. Alot like this video. Now about 2 weeks later it sounds like shit. It's really really fuzzy sounding, like way to fuzzy sounding. Also it always sounds a bit muffled when the base higher that like 2. Gets even more muffle sounding when I roll the guitars tone knob down for cleans. Any ideas of what's wrong with it?

[realdocloco]

@dylancollver : could be a bad valve - modern valve are not that reliable

[markadiculous]

nice tones.. great guitar. I'm thinking of getting the class 5. not sure tho....

Not bad playing at all dude! keep it up! the Sin City needs a little practice... but you're right there! rock on!

Don't listen to the Jerks that give negative comments on here.. they're just trying to make themselves feel better about their own pathetic lives! lol

[yearginclarke]

Question for anyone who might know: I play a class 5 with a Fernandes (unknown model) and Epiphone les paul jr. It just sounds WAY too bassy cranked up and just plain muddy at any volume,(no effects) even with bass set low. I know how to tune, set inntonation, etc. Just wondering if a better guitar might solve this, (like a Gibson SG standard) or a pickup swap? I just live too far away from music stores to try different guitars.

[grzegorz206]

@yearginclarke hi, I have the same amp, in my case epi g400 with stock pickups sounds muddy also, it gets waaay better with SG Standard or even SG Special Faded. At least in my case it does.

[gibsonsg995]

hey awsome playing!!!!!!!!:) do you think a gibson sg standard and this amp will be any good? i heard alot bad things and good things abouth this amp

[SD011]

I want to see this amp in AmpliTube 3 :D

[ACletthereberockDC]

Nice playing of Riff Raff!



[grzegorz206]

How come mine doesn't break up at 4 (i bought it brand new). What was it like in Your case, did it breakup at 4 right from the first use (of coures after warming the tube up) or it took some time? Great vid :D

[realdocloco]

@grzegorz206 : weird - except if you're using very low output pickups; but with humbuckers or P90, it break up at 3-4. Maybe a bad preamp valve?

[grzegorz206]

@realdocloco i use SG Standard with 498T. Your sound is killer comparing to mine :((( i'll have the tube checked. THX

[grzegorz206]

@realdocloco do You use stock preamp valves (ecc83) in your Class5?

[realdocloco]

@grzegorz206 : yes, everything is stock

[MrPeteyBalls]

This is one of my set-ups too. R7/C5.

[1daniel1996]

rofl, ur foot. i Tought it was ur dog headbanging xD

[DavidK6633]

Que pasta doc...

How did you do the reverb? Going in or through the mixer?

[GEgloff]

Nice Job. Thank you for demo-ing the amp. I have a 57 reissue LP (and a CIJ Tele) and am looking at my next amp purchase for my studio.  That was helpful.

[tdag100]

any pedals? and in the description you advised toward keeping the bass low why is this whats the advantage good video dude beautiful goldtop

[guitgeo]

That's a beautiful ax...but...they all sound the same all buzzed out. What does it sound like clean ?? Different pickup configurations ?? Or maybe you're just trying to show off your limited playing ability...

[realdocloco]

@guitgeo : spot on! I'm such a limited player I can't understand why you spend your precious time to make such usefull comments - I'm not worthy

[armyqpzm]

@realdocloco What was the amp settings at 1:42?

[MrCptGonzo]

@realdocloco

I for one dont understand whats supposed to be "buzzed out".

What a prick guitgeo is.

[TennisNick]

@guitgeo A cranked AC30, a cranked Bassman, and a Cranked Marshall Stack do not sound alike... If you're talking about these new amps with their triple rectifiers and whatnot... yeah, they sound the same once you get into mush zone, but at moderate gain settings, these "vintage voiced" amps have their own character. And making fun of his ability is a low blow kind of move. Regardless of the fact that this guy is a good player in his own right.

[mpaulrealty]

@guitgeo - pretty clear that you are an idiot and have no business owning or playing a guitar or amp.

[Alu122112211221]

How does the Goldtop differ in tone when compared to the '58, '59 and '60 reissues?

[AlochEX]

pickups and guita?

[realdocloco]

@AlochEX : Gibson Les Paul R7 (1957 reissue VOS), stock

[8zuz8]

Bonjour doc, j'ai l'intention d'investir dans les prochains mois dans une Gibson LP Traditional (Iced Tea lol) et un Vox AC4TVH avec le Vox 1x12" V112TV.

Sur ta vidéo c'est bien un Vox 1x12" V112TV ?? mais la tête c'est quel modèle, elle est plus grande que la AC4TVH ? Quelles sont les différences ?

Laquelle serait la mieux ? :p merci. bravo pour ta démo.

[realdocloco]

@8zuz8 : salut, le Vox blanc dans le fond, c'est un AC15HTVH (handwired) avec son baffle assorti (ce n'est pas le V112TV).

[8zuz8]

@realdocloco Ah oui, c'est la version anniversaire, belle bête. Et c'est pas le même prix... normal, un 15w tout lampe avec un son qui assure.

T'es un des chanceux avoir réussi à en acheter un avant la rupture de stock.

[brimill1980]

your nearly there dude good going :]

[bondman00794]

You like low wattage amps dont you? I am the same way.

[sgmarshall3]

Sounds great!

[TheKasmire]

can you play a small gig with this one?

[realdocloco]

@TheKasmire : I'd say yes, a pub gig, if you don't need clean tones at band volume

[TheKasmire]

@realdocloco do the roll back on the volume knop cause the main volume to drop a lot?

[realdocloco]

@TheKasmire : not that much

[theShowStopper321]

@realdocloco Is this amp loud enough to rehearse with a band without a mic? Does it take effects like delay/ flange well?

[realdocloco]

@theShowStopper321 : rehearsal: yes, according you don't need clean tones and your drummer ain't Animal. Effects: yes about overdrive/boosters, no about delay, reverb & so

[TheGuitareater]

Hi

Im trying to get the ACDC tone and I'm trying to decide between the egnater tweaker and the marshall class 5. I have a les paul standard, and can be playing mostly at home. Which one of these would be the better choice?

[realdocloco]

@TheGuitareater : for home use (if you insist, I bet it means "sensible neighborhood", right?), choose a master volume amp. So this means the Tweaker rather than the Class 5 (it's not about tone, it's about manageable home volume)

[TheGuitareater]

@realdocloco kk thnx alot

[m1d4s13]

oh my god... look at all these vox amps at the back...

shit, i want that herritage handwired

[ruffles272]

what song did you play at 0:53

[ACDCalex]

How loud is this amp?

[realdocloco]

@ACDCalex : louder than most (all?) 5W amps (and even louder than many 10-15W amps). Too loud for an appartment, loud enough for cool rehearsals and even little pubs (if you don't need clean tones).

[bluebrowne13]

Nice! I have an R7 and a Class 5 as well. My Class 5 rattles and my R7's neck is bigger than a stairwell railing....nice chops and tone man!

[czaaaaaa]

wait wait wait... How would this sound if I played a fuzzface through it?

[yamitanomura]

great sound man !

keep on rocking

[tom9955]

Would this sound with a pedal? I got a Digitech RP255. Please reply.

[realdocloco]

@tom9955 : no - you should look for a clean amp, like the Laney cub10

[dangledangle18]

wats the first song u played with the volume on 7

[realdocloco]

@dangledangle18 : "Heard it on the X" - ZZTop

[Fsharpm7]

Great representation of the tone of this killer little amp. Thanks for the demo. I love my class 5 and plan on buying a couple more! Great playing too!

[racer500gp]

Riff Raff is slightly wrong and a little messy, but a great tone however.

[KyussWhitewater]

Hmmm why keep the bass low?

[SvdE95]

looks like youre a vox fan

[I974Jailbreak]

Can you play with this amp things like ACDC without dispel the neighbours (playing at home)

[realdocloco]

Not a chance, it's LOUD.

[I974Jailbreak]

so it is good that it has a headset ouput

[realdocloco]

... but the headphone output is bad (too loud/no speaker emulation). Still it can be used to drive an ext. cab at low volume (and it works fine)

[I974Jailbreak]

So a 1x12 ext. cab would be the right for this amp to play at home

[realdocloco]

Yes - I made a video about it btw

[I974Jailbreak]

@realdocloco to the video in which you've played with an ext. cab in the low output headphone jack:

Did you put your cable completely or only half way into the jack (I've heard that's only quieter if yóu put it only half way into)

[redbird963]

with a pedal you can

[chute2thrill]

its not youtube its computer speakers.. hook your comp to a stereo receiver and wham bam thank you ma'am... these amps are delicious..

[mennoosmusic]

wow yeah, the sound really opens up now that you've rolled the bass down.

Great video btw, as usual :)

[TequeDiogo]

Why keep the bass low?

Don't get it

[realdocloco]

because, as with the JTM45/Bluesbreaker, there's a HUGE amount of bass - too much if you keep the bass control on 5. At crunch levels, the bass control on 2 gives you the same amount of bass than with most amps on 5.

[Taygoo15]

@realdocloco Would this be less bassy with a ten inch greenback do you thing

[realdocloco]

It's not that it is bassy, it's that the bass are sometimes too loose (or muddy) at high gain. So, there's two ways to tighten 'em: keep the low pot under 3, OR set the middle and treble pots near the maximum. The speaker is good, no need to replace him (I have greenback 10's, and I prefer the stock one for this amp).

[Taygoo15]

@realdocloco Yeah but the greenback would be thinner and it would tighten up the low end these custom speakers never are that good.

[realdocloco]

As I tell you, I've tried it with a greenback and prefer the stock one.

[Taygoo15]

@realdocloco What is the difference between the two

[Remnufacture]

@realdocloco every speaker needs some time played. i agree with realdocloco. the stock speaker is a great choice for that amp

[Wirsto]

It seems the bass and resonance controls on amps these days is exaggerated. The mid's need to push through..

[murfdog19]

Wow, this amp breaks up really early. I didn't know you could get that much overdrive with the Master at 4. Sounds awesome!!

[StratGT]

This is a good demo, I was interested in buying this amp. This demo convinced me that I like the sound of the Tiny Terror better.

[christhekiwi12]

tiny terror rules, I have one but I might get a class 5 anyway.

[solerso68]

your surely free to like or dislike any amp you choose. I though this was a good demo, but i have heard enough amps to tune into certain things. bedrooms are not good places to show off an amp, especially a very basic single ended amp such as this one. i think thats why you comment puzzled me. this type of amp is on the other end of the spectrum from "digital" "primitive" would be more accurate.

[saxman4231]

Is anyone else just not digging the sound of this amp? No offense to anyone who likes it. The tone just sounds too digital to me.

[solerso68]

@saxman4231

digital?

[saxman4231]

I don't really know how to describe why I don't like the sound. That was just the best thing I could think of. Something just seems off to me. I'll leave it at that. Then again, I won't really know until I play one in person. I might change my mind if I do.

[Wirsto]

Yea, I agree digital is not the word but lifeless and flat is. Where is the sweetness? Probably has to be on ten with the speaker and components in the amp ready to melt down...then they will.

[solerso68]

the whole point of a 5 watt amp is to be played "on ten"..have you ever used a tube amp dude?

[Wirsto]

Dude, my comment was more of a "poke" at Marshall build quality these days. I bet this amp sounds amazing cranked up..and yea I've been playing tube amp for 30 years. Playin a Cornford MK50II rig now.

[solerso68]

o.ok.

[saxman4231]

@Wirsto

Thank you! That's the description I was looking for. I guess I thought digital because I associate lifeless and flat with a solid state amp (most of the time).

[Wirsto]

@saxman4231, no problem! I checked this guys other video's of this amp and they sound sweet!

[saxman4231]

I'll have to take a look at them. Thanks!

[saxman4231]

@Wristo

You're right. There's a huge difference.

[christhekiwi12]

lifeless and flat as you say is called compressed. Which is what all tubes do when they are cranked. Your a worthless moron with no clue whatsoever. GTFO

[saxman4231]

I know what compression is and that's not what I'm talking about. Good tube amps don't sound lifeless when they are cranked. I don't know why. I just know what sounds good.

[christhekiwi12]

Well you obviously have no idea what sounds good because you think this tube amp sounds digital. Your basing your view on a youtube clip for one.

[saxman4231]

If you took the effort to read down farther than you would see that I already mentioned that. I would like to try one in person because it's impossible to hear the quality on youtube.

[christhekiwi12]

digital? Its a tube amp....

[saxman4231]

Just because it has tubes doesn't mean it is getting that pure tube sound. Take a look at the JCM 2000 DSL401 for example. All the bells and whistles tend to make it sound more like a solid state. A lot of "tube amps" end up that way. However, this amp is very basic (The way tube amps should be!). I'll have to listen to one in person sometime. It's impossible to hear the sound quality

[oselifer]

It works great with the bass at 2.I am starting to love this sound..Thanks for the tip..Have you tried any cab with this amp?I am thinking of buying a marshall 412 for the class 5 but i don't know which would suit it best..

[oselifer]

I bought this amp but i don't like its sound in solo parts..Have you experienced this?Do you suggest any pedal that would help?

[realdocloco]

Try lowering the bass (with the volume over 5, I usually set the bass between 1 and 2,5).

About pedals, clean boost work really fine, as long as tubescreamer-like overdrives (set to boost)

[TumblingDice66]

Great tone. Have you added some kind of reverb to the sound? The amp itself does not have any reverb, correct?

[realdocloco]

No reverb (except on the intro/outro) but I use a "room mic" to capture the room natural verb.

[TumblingDice66]

Thanks. Any other effects, or is the unaffected amp's natural sound?

[realdocloco]

None. I always list any effect because I think it's important to know you're listening to the amp as it sounds when recorded. But of course the miking technique is part of the tone.

[TumblingDice66]

Absolutely, agree - the unfiltered tone is key to understanding the amp's sound. And yeah, miking is a whole other can of worms, but sounds like you got a good mic placement.

Thanks a lot. Sounds great.

[MrObvious01]

Nice sound, but the way you're playing riff raff =/

[MannyBlue65]

Great playing!

[Simto]

Sick tone when you turn the volume up, nice and gritty.

[CrazyDiamond1968]

Nice demo, sweet playing...amp sounds very cool.

[Packy11920]

Good guitar + Good amp = Good sound :P

I have the R7VOS too :D

[kenttta]

riff raff is wrong allright, but its not important to do everything the same

[DirtyDeedGoneCheap]

your riff raff version is so wrong..

[realdocloco]

Probably - I play it by ear and didn't check a tab. Now, the point is not so much about how accurate is the riff, but how it sounds thru the amp ;-)

[ACDCarchives]

Critical much! It's wrong, but as he said, the point is the sound of the amp. And he is nailing that sweet Angus tone!

[Zztop128]

I think it's great what realdocloco does! He's playing it HIS way, and that's playing guitar. Not the 13 in a dozen guitarist who can play a song note by note correct...

[mrtoulouse]

LordSupro What are you talking about. an amp makes way more difference than a guitar If I were to choose between a good amp and a good guitar, I would undoubtedly choose a good amp and a not-so great guitar.

example: Marshall MG with gibson les paul, vs cheap les paul copy by stagg through marshall HW2061x. I've had both setups and you wouldn't believe how much better the latter sounded.

realdocloco: awesome tone. the non-masterV marshalls truly sing. great setup:)

[NewSchoolGuitar]

ould you agree with me in saying whoever decieded on releasing the mg series should be shot i mean cmon...

[codyt5]

I second that mrtoulouse. It's amazing how many people fail to realize the importance of a good amplifier, and dump all their money into a high end guitar instead. A guitar may be more personal, but the majority of the tone generation occurs in the amplifier.

[1964SG]

couldnt agree more.. i played a $100 Squier "Hello Kitty" Strat through an Orange Rockerverb 100 and it honestly sounded like a million bucks. granted, the 1974 Tele sounded better, you could get away with playing a cheaper guitar and going all out on an amp. but you also have to have a good cabinet with it. crappy speakers will also take away greatly from your sound.

[LordSupro]

EVen shit speakers sound pretty good. They don't matter that much.

[Kfreund1991]

@codyt5 COMPLETELY AGREE. A great amp will make even a shitty guitar sound good. Won't be fun to play..... But it'll sound good lol

[LordSupro]

I patently disagree, but that's my opinion.  No one said you had to share it.

[MihailTronix]

Is the Blackstar an all tube amp? Not a hybrid?

[sokka06]

Yes it is.

[LordSupro]

Great tone there. To be fair, almost any amp will sound good through an Historic Les Paul, but I like what I'm hearing so far. Looks to be a great deal for a small practice amp.

[walterppk1989]

more like any decent guitar will sound good thru a great amp. You run the guitar signal thru the amp not the other way around and the amp matters alot more for your sound ;)

[LordSupro]

No, a good guitar trumps pretty much everything. I've had some incredible amps that sounded like shit when using a mediocre guitar. The guitar matters more and an historic Les Paul is one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard.

[scumcity14]

hey supro..you don't run an amp through a guitar...you run a guitar through an amp..A good guitar doesnt trump every thing. plug that historic Les Paul into a sweet crate solid state 15 watt and see how great it sounds...

[LordSupro]

Go ahead and try it. Report back to me. If you haven't done it then you don't know what you're talking about.

[scumcity14]

wow I plugged my sg 62 reissue into my sons crate 15 watt (with 10" crate speaker) just now and it sounded awesome...just as good as my JCM800.. you were right.

[maffNdicj]

this or the blackstar ht-5 ??

[realdocloco]

Depends - if you're after a "modern" Marshall tone, and wants to be able to play at low volume, the HT-5 will suits you better.

[maffNdicj]

I play hard rock like Guns N Roses. What it s better for this tone? So you say to play at low volume HT-5 is better? thanks a lot man

[jgrose9]

how much does this amp cost? any idea how it sounds with a cheap guitar?

[AGK972]

Nice! Sounds like a great old Plexi!

[phenixreturns]

est-ce qu'on est obligé de mettre le volume à fond pour avoir la disto à fond?

sinon, pas de gain, c'est quoi ce bordel!!!??

volume à 2 , ça a la disto )à fond ou pas?

[Backguitar]

MIc used for recording please?

[realdocloco]

shure SM57/tbone RB500

[math1703]

those equipments costs way too much !!!!!!

[chami86]

that's not the question ...

[SonicStrings]

pretty gritty...

[realdocloco]

New speaker with only a few minutes of playing time. Now, one week later, it's smoother.

[SonicStrings]

ok, makes sense!

[oldGNRfan23]

Also, would a noise gate be beneficial? THANKS!! :D

[realdocloco]

No, not needed , really.

[oldGNRfan23]

Hey man. Great demo. I'm looking for an amp for blues to metal, nothing harder than early Metallica, but it's mainly for GN'R and Zeppelin type stuff. I have a Les Paul Studio, with higher output pups than a LP Standard (guess that would help), would this amp be good? Could it get in the JCM 800 Ballpark? I Like how Marshall is actually trying to make a good amp again. Nothing like this since the 80s. THANKS A LOT MAN AND KEEP ON ROCKING!!!

[realdocloco]

At high gain it sounds closer to a hotrod plexi than a JCM800 to me, but great Marshall tone anyway. Good news: after some hours of playing, the speaker has lost its little harshness.

[oldGNRfan23]

Is there much difference do you think between a hotrod Plexi and a JCM 800, gain wise? Also, do you mean hotrod plexi, like Van Halen and that stuff? Late 70's metal to early 80's metal?

[Tesi4SRVfan]

This little guy is angry! =) great tone

[TeleBandit]

Agreed, but they were goin' for the old school feel, with just a volume control. I like the tone, a lot, but I dont know, I have to play one first to see how bad five watts at 10 really can be...valid point though

[fretboarder]

pretty good,,how do you think it compares to a blackstar ht-5? tre bon..

[realdocloco]

Well, the Class 5 is definitly better for JTM45/Plexi tones, and the HT5 for JCM800/900/2000 I think

[fretboarder]

sorry im not really that familar with those diffrent amps ofcourse i know of them i just havent used them, am i right in saying the ht5 sounds more like modern marshall amps? cheers..

[realdocloco]

Yes that's it :-)

[oldGNRfan23]

Could the Class 5 get in the same ballpark at a JCM 800 cranked though? I'm looking for an amp for GN'R, Clapton, Thin Lizzy tones like that. Blues to Metal, but nothing harder than early Metallica. I can crank it. I also have a Les Paul Studio, with the pups being hotter than a LP Standard, that would help a little too, i guess. Would this be good? THANKS A LOT MAN! ROCK ON!!!!! :D

[Grungeman1980]

Salut Doc! Tres bonne vidéo comme a votre habitude! Pourriez vous nous faire une vid avec une guitare à p90?

Merci d'avance et keep rockin'!

[realdocloco]

Merci - j'essayerai de faire ça ce WE; mais j'ai justement essayé tout à l'heure avec une de mes SG jr et pas de soucis ça sonne TRES bien :-)

[TOTOsupra]

Sympa cette video Doc, tiens, t'as le même Jack que moi xD.

[MGiroux77]

Sweet!! A lot better than your first demo. Have you tried it with your P-90 guitars yet? If so can you post one. I plan on getting one once they are available in the states.

[iGesOo]

Ah la c'est tout bon !

La vache il faut que j'essaie !

Tu nous ferais pas une vidéo avec une strat et l'équa réglé ?