Enter His courts with praise and His gates with thanksgiving. By this we can see that in our approach to God we should always come praising Him first.
What's wrong with saying "In the name of God the most Gracious, the most Merciful" or "I bare witness that there is no God but Allah." ?? Lol in the US state and church or whatever religion should be separated.
"No man can wish more ardently than I do that all our public offices may be filled by men who fear God and hate wickedness;" - T. Parsons, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Massachusetts
Amendment 1: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
erm... perhaps I missed the part about the seperation??
Turk the jerk you really do not understand the concept our founding fathers had regarding Church & state. You read the quote but do not understand it. Mr. Muslim
@TheOnlyAttrition Seperation of church and state was to protect the church from the gov. attempting to have one state religion and to protect churches from the gov. trying to influence churches.
@bnjones28 What does he not understand? The words are very precise and there is only one correct interpretation that can exist from them. They are that clear.
@Sirafrican actually hes smarter than O'reilly and makes TONS more sense. His views (liberal views) also tend to line up more with reality than conservative views (especially socially conservative views).
@TheOnlyAttrition To you he's smarter than Bill O'Reilly because you share the same views with him... If Bill O'Reilly made more sense to you then you would think that Bill is smarter than Cenk....
Seperation of church and state isnt in the constitution. It was in a letter thomas jefferson wrote to the danbury baptists association. The first amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Same concept of course but people seem to get the phrases mixed up.
but thats what people mean when they say "seperation of church and state" it may not say those exact words in the constitution but thats what it implies.
meaning that no religion can pass laws based on its teachings (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion) and the state or federal government cannot ban the worship of any religion (prohibiting the free exercise thereof)
Cenk, you are absolutely; the government shouldn't establish a religion. However, you have grossly misconstrued what "separation of church and state" means to average Americans. To the average person, it means that religion and politics should never mix. When the conservatives said they didn't see the separation of church and state in the Constitution, they were alluding to the modern understanding. Every one of those conservatives are unequivocally opposed to a unification of church and state.
@CalebRedmond What is the modern version of separation of church & state? Whenever you allow the gov't to behave like a church or allow its elected officials to invoke a religious bias through their elected power on tax payer money then that is personal religion involved with gov't. It is using religion for the power for persuasion. And I think this becomes clear whenever you hypothetically allow a minority religious point of view a voice through the power of the gov't. just like Cenk said
@PorscheGT2turbo Cenk is very smart, however he's also very biased and close-minded. I don't think we the public should listen to any person that is one-sided in their views. Cenk is just as quick to target FOX news for biased reporting as FOX is of spinning their facts. I for one would like a media person that is impartial. Both the GOP and the DEM are a plague to this country. One does it though welfare and weakness while the other steals from the poor and uses religion as a tool for greed.
@shadowedge69 If you the public doesn't want to listen to him turn him off. Commentators are paid to have an opinion, have bias and have strong views. Anchors such as Brian Williams are thought to be impartial, but talking heads like Cenk, Rush, Beck, Radigan have to state strong opinions, that's their job.
@skeech15 That sounds great in theory doesn't it? But let's examine the collective intelligence of the public and you tell me that biased reporters aren't dangerous. You're right about what you say of course, I'm just pointing how how stupid people are. Cenk proves my point on a daily basis as mostly GOP politicians are clearly clueless of our Constitution yet they reword it in a way to exploit their agenda. The fact that FOX news is #1 with all their crappy reporting just proves my point.
@shadowedge69 I agree that most people are stupid and that it's not the best thing for this country that reporters are biased, but these networks are businesses. Their main goal is to make money. FOX and MSNBC found that you need to put out ridiculous asshats that hold biased points in order for people to follow. CNN tries to be unbiased and their ratings are not doing that great. You can't blame the networks for putting out biased news if people are following like sheep.
To bad Cenk was born in Turkey because he could potentially make a great executive leader. I would never be on board with changing the constitution so get him where we can. :)
You put religion and state together and guess what fuckers, you have sharia law. Maybe no stonings or any of that disgusting bullshit, but you have religious law nonetheless. Then you all whine about Sharia in muslim states, you'd be no fucking worse. Take your disgusting religious bullshit and shove it up your ass. On another note, Go Cenk :D
it whuld be only the ironical if they whuld get rid of the seperation of church and state only to have muslims impose their sharia law in there. i bet they have not thouth about that. christianity is historicaly in a state of decline, even thou they advertised them self as fastest growing religion, the area that they are majority has divndeld. europe is become more and more secular. while muslims are moving away from middle east to western countries. state and religion do not mix.
@redryan20000 Yeah your totally right except Hitler was a catholic. Woops, reality kind of got in your way there buddy. Don't worry I'm sure you'll plug your ears and pretend it never happened and that the Nazi's didn't believe they had God on their side.
Here's a little tip: Every side thinks they have God with them, does the winner actually have God with them? No.
@redryan20000 Hitler was the most christian that you can get. His anti-semitism was inspired by christian teachings. Hitler is perfect example of your god, both are monsters. thou hitler was real, your god is not.
@redryan20000 I suspect you're a troll but I give you the benefit of the doubt. You want to see evil? Read your bible. The God of the bible is one of the most evil characters in all of fictions.
@paultheuglydog Are you retarded? Seriously. You'd have to be REALLY dim to simply take away the impression that "Cenk hates god", after hearing him say what he just said. He happens to be agnostic, which means that he doesn't really have a committed standpoint when it comes to theism. But this isn't about his own personal beliefs. This is about political separation from religion. Buuut of course, I think I can safely assume that you're a conservative christian idiot who's playing victim.
@sluttyfrogmagicia Agnostic means that one does not have 100% proof, thus everyone is an agnostic.
Agnostic atheists and agnostic theists are everywhere for they can not prove or disprove the existence of God(s).
Well I guess people who've met God or God himself would not be agnostic, nor would people whom disproved the existence of God(s); Cenk is an agnostic atheist.
If I told you that there is cheese on the Moon, you wouldn't believe it but can not disprove it so you'd be agnostic about that.
@kingkong8974 I know that there are different interpretations of what it means to be agnostic, but by your definition, it literally includes everyone, so it pretty much loses it's value. My understanding is that agnostics believe that the answer is unknowable. I think that the answer is knowable, even though we don't currently know it. If you told me the moon was cheese, wouldn't I be "acheesist" if I didn't believe it, but not agnostic because I believe that this is ultimately answerable?
@sluttyfrogmagician Gnostic literally means knowledge with absolute certainty, and Agnostic means knowledge that isn't absolutely certain. But it does show that there are degrees of Agnosticism. You are agnostic about whatever belief until absolutely certain, so it doesn't matter if you believe it can be proven in the future. There are lots of terms, and when all used you'll find that every word does have meaning and with enough words the meaning is precise.
what if government worked like religion? one all powerful ruler making up all the rules and everyone else must obey them or suffer for all time. the 'followers' of religion have no say in the rules or laws, and the ruler can basicly do anything he wants.
i think there already is a form of government like that, its called a dictatorship. so the question isnt "Why does this guy hate God?" the question is "why does god hate democracy?"
@paultheuglydog What makes you love God? HE okay-ed holocaust, slavery, sexism, 9/11, pedophilia in-spite of being all powerful. I don't find anything lovable about HIM when I'm in the streets of India looking at disease inflicted poor people struggling to have a piece of bread in two days or someone frozen to death due to excessive cold because of no clothes and home. I'd hate such an all powerful God.
@paultheuglydog Because he thinks it makes you appear more intelligent if you do noy believe in God. Because you understand the world better than those who believe in God. Kinda stupid, right?
@2edsajdmsa it is islamic words but not islamic prayer... the first is bismilahi rahmani rahim which means in the name of GOD the extremely graceful & merciful... and 2nd he said ash hadu an laa ilaha illa laah which means I witness every Idol as worthless to worship except worshipping the one true GOD of existence.
The church and all religion is a limit on the rights of people. That being said merging church and state would make our country less free. Who are the people wanting to make more laws regarding morals? Take a random guess and I bet it will have something to do with the church and religion.
@fringeelements Ok "bee fucking 69er" first off thats a wierd thing to like to fuck. The church and all religion is a limit on the rights of people. That being said merging church and state would make our country less free. Who are the people wanting to make more laws regarding morals? Take a random guess and I bet it will have something to do with the church and religion. You are saying you support less freedom over more freedom.
Glenn Beck said that one of the reasson of slavery was religion, politics and science base on economic interest so now im surpirse he support such narrow minded idea. If i dont want to belive in your gods or goddes it is my butsiness not some burocrat in washington. What state needs to warranty is that everybody has the free speach option so ppl can decide what idea they want to follow. After all, sadly, god is just an idea and nothing else. We all want it to be true.
@jpl10380 But that is not her argument. Her statement simply was " You will not find the phrase Separation of Church and State in the Constitution." That is all she said! She did not get into interpreting the law. All she said was the WORDS separation of church and state are not in the constitution. And guess what, she is right. The WORDS separation of Church and State are not in the constitution. That may have been their intent; however, she is right that phrase is not found
@1333fuller So she was just putting words together. Just haven fun with nouns and verbs and whatnot? I've read some dumb things on the internet friend, but your argument is silly. Her statement to the effect that it's not in the constitution was intended to imply that there should be some other interpretation. I reiterate, the first amendment MEANS there is a separation of Church and State. If an ingredients list listed 3% sucrose, what would be the point in saying it doesn't list sugar?
@Repremender What question? Yes, I do know the difference between secular and atheism. It is and was "innocent" for many decades in America. I don't see the relevance of the 30 year war. We were not having religious battles or killing each other. Removing expression of faith came because atheists sued, not other religions.
... these are the same bastards who criticise Sharia laws in Islamic states... and they want to integrate church and state??? That, is basically what Sharia IS!!!!
@HaloBillRod Kind of like how you don't know the difference between "to" and "too". Yeah Cenk's a bit more in the know how than you random youtube commenter. Learn some grammar.
Roosevelt 'spoke' to God before he ordered the atom bomb on Japan while Bush also did so before he released the US military might on Iraq. Religion is evil in this sense. God is used to legitimize evil deeds. Same for Muslims. Killing in the name of God. The Al Qeda issue and weapon of mass destruction, as asserted to be the main issues, could have been dealt with in a saner, more cost effective way and avoid generating more hate against their and provide more fodder for violence.
Religion is the rule of all evil. Believing in that God/Religion bullshit, you have got to be a psycho. If you believe in any of that fairy tail non-sense, just go to the top of a sky scrapper and jump off of it and they pray to your imaginary God and see if he saves you. If he does, I promise you that I will start believing that shit, until then I will continue being rationale and sane.
@Repremender Walk around Washington DC and look at all the PUBLIC buildings with Scripture and references to God on them. Then try to tell me that the founding fathers were opposed to ALL expressions of faith.
@Repremender Keep reading the Bible. It will do you good. No one said anyone was establishing a theocracy. I did not say the atheists "came along". I said the Supreme Court started considering them a group needing protection from being exposed to faith.
(continuation) I find it fascinating that he read the Jefferson quote and came to a conclusion that he felt was obvious but was not even close. If you read the whole letter, as I have, Angle's interrupted statement is perfectly in line with Jefferson's point, which was to assure the Danbury Baptists that the government would not be establishing a state religion. It's funny that there is a TV channel dedicated to this absurdity.
Even if you believe that "these religious fanatics are a threat to a modern society," please tell me you recognize that this is totally a strawman argument. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE ADVOCATING A STATE RELIGION... not in these clips nor elsewhere. While this guy loves to hear himself talk, he's totally fabricated the issue in the first place. Sharron Angle nailed this. (continued)
Just because you say something loudly and in a derogatory way doesn't make you correct, Cenk. The 1st amendment clearly says that "CONGRESS shall pass no law" to establish a religion. That applies to federal government only. That allows the states to do as they wish.
Thomas Jefferson even went on to write Virginia's own 1st amendment in our state legislature to establish the same principle in this state.
This is where I disagree with you. I hope that's clear enough.
I think Ratigan wants to suck Cenk's cock!.... Or at least he wishes he was a Young Turk.... I think he may be hinting at the possibility of TYT on msnbc!!
@ecwaufisxtreme Nooo.... Cenk is a man. And Men have cocks... But you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Southern home schooled conservative I presume? Hahahaha! Oh, and you don't suck pussy, you eat it! Another thing you know nothing about! Hahahaha!! You don't like Cenk?... Then you must be a douche.
@heyjudedude27 Wow you need to get a room with the Turk! Liberal I do declare! LOL...what a wacker! Yes there is a separation of church and state. Why would the church want to be saturated with the filth of the state. Thomas Jefferson wasn't stupid. Public schools who leave many behind! "uneducated buffoons!"
@heyjudedude27 haha dude the bitch you are commenting on is a troll. that cunt has been commenting on TYT vids for like a year spamming most videos with shit about sarah palin. just ignore it man
FOLLOWING that, they dedicated the rights to the people, and freedom of establishing a religion would not be held down by state, nor an outside threat (Which can also be aimed as FEDERAL).
1:35 is a lie! During that time near the end of the Inquisition, the STATE and the People's CONSTITUTION was being safe from THE CHURCH.. And that Church was the Vatican.
I had a conversation with my grandma the other day and discovered that she really thought the freedom of religion meant you were free to be in any sect of Christianity. Yeah..
There are old science book that are wrong. But organized Religions refuse to change even if the original is different. They continue to show Jonnah in a whale, when it's a figure of speech. The whale is Greek, Anubis the Jackel is Egyptian, 3 Days is Aramean, Mars the storm is Roman. All it means is he miraculously survived. 3 days means from the Sun to Mercury, to Venus back to Earth. Actually they all do. They'd rather stick to a fantacy than, wow! actual proof.
1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
3. To relate or refer to; concern.
The first amendment says that the goverment shall make no law respecting religion.
That means that the goverment can make no law showing any religion deferential regard for or esteem. It all depends on what definition of respect your useing.
These religous fanatics are a threat to a modern society. They should be forced to resign from office or impeached from thier offices & be transfered to a mental ayalsem.
Does Dylan Ratigan have a crush on Cenk or something? Every time the two are on TV together it's "my Young Turkish friend" and that one where he went around New York asking people to pronounce Cenk's name. And then he asks him "hey Cenk... you ever thought about getting your own TV show"? He asked it in a manner where I pictured Ratigan laying belly-down on the bed kicking his legs talking on the phone with Cenk.
Don't get me wrong, I like them both, but I'm just wondering.
Umm... Like ummm.... It's law that no certain group with set ways to express Religion should mix with the state, but you can't exclude Religion it self. they'll be fiat laws to go with the fiat money. Like the laws of physics no longer apply on 9/11.... so now America has fiat science too. And plenty of fiat people.
More play on words marketing deceptions from both sides. Like Democracy, when the US is a Republic. They never say "Our Republic." Even though the Pledge does. The Constitution to the 3 branches to the citizen, is the same as priority to God, to Creation, Being, and Judgement, to the followers. People are becoming atheists to the Constitution. Making rules like printing money. Nothing to back it up. Just out of thin air.
If you remove the concept of Religion from the state.... run the cities with war lords? Mob rule? That's why it's a Republic, not a Democracy. It has democratic elections, but that's about it. The Pledge of Allegence... to the Republic not Democracy. Real public means priority. Should a majority of cars going to work not pull over for one ambulance going to work?
Both sides are going extreme. First, it's ESTABLISHMENT of Religion. And CHURCH and state. The stars and colors of the flag are Religious. The shape and color of the Pentagon is Religious. There are Religious symbols all over Washington DC. The Pentagon means justice for the nation like satan is justice for the Universe. The stars are all states under justice and fear of it like...guess what?
@cloudvszell ...... It's the silence more than anything that make people unhappy in this country. Although, there are a few outspoken muslims on this matter, many stay silent. Sometimes the silence says more than words ever can. Think about it.
Perhaps you should read the definition of "law".....If I forced you to be christian through the legislative process that is a law.....denying you the oppurtunity to put up an atheist sign on Christmas is a decision, not a law....No where in the Constitution does it say legislators are not allowed to make decisions of which religious symbols are allowed on public property....The Constitution states there shall be no LAW regarding religion.....Read the constitution, and read the definition of law
When I see a dumb argument I know it's a Christian, lol.
When a bank manager gives you a loan it is because they have had power delegated to them in the fiorm of a Delegations Manual or Statement of Duties.
Go up to the top and you will find the directors of the bank are elected by the stockholders who own the bank. There is a Constitution which allows the owners to empower the directors to act on their behalf.
In the same way, decisions are made within the law.
It's an -establishment- of Religion. Actually, you cannot separate Religion from anything. It's the whole knowledge and intellegence in the Universe. The big bang isn't all that came from nothing, time and space being sustained is coming from nothing right now. As soon as it's no longer nothing, it's yours...lol. Your computer and electronics works by confusing it before it figures out to be a conductor or not. Quantum physics.
@mnagmobile1 That it's ESTABLISHMENT of Religion and CHURCH and state. And both mean the same thing. So none of the slickster con-artists and marketing minds from either side try and sell that there is no Religion in the state or it's a Christian state. Priority is in all denominations and spelled out by the symbol of the main 3 even. Ledgeslative, Executive, Judicial is the same as Create, Be, and Judge. It all comes from a Religion.
Duh. Your defintion of religion sucks. The first amendment is talking about the establishment of a religion. That means an organised religious entity.
Politics has nothing to fear from the general Universe. The problem arises with its representatives in the Church or Mosque or Temple who tell us what is right or wrong.
It should be "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" not "get AIDS and die".
@patrickcorliss Same thing. Exclusive denominations have no say in real laws, even if they all got together and pushed them. But Religion itself, like science, can't be separated from anything. Like, Jesus died for 'our sins'. Yea, ones people made up, not real ones. Even if you take that the other way, then why kill them if Jesus already died for them? Religion is intellegence. So it has to make good sense. Organized Religion and more and more organized anything is just organized sadism.
these idiots at MSNBC are nothing but haters, a news program supposed to be un-biased, but all they do is hate on any and all republicans and dont even report any thing at all about the dems...............and im a democrat. i think i will start watching something else.
@GrasshopperScott i know what you where talking about i stating a fact tho that both parties have a news station that does nothing but attack the other party and that its not just the democrats that do it if anything they just started doing whats been done to them for years
@cloudvszell so the professionals that we turn to act like little kids? just because one does it, dont mean the others has to do it. they should be acting like professionals instead of like children.
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sudoldas 9 hours ago
Cenk's arabic is terrible. so forced
QueensBey 1 month ago
Cenk would make such great president.
ALEXFVHS 1 month ago
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What's wrong with saying "In the name of God the most Gracious, the most Merciful" or "I bare witness that there is no God but Allah." ?? Lol in the US state and church or whatever religion should be separated.
thefalstini 3 months ago
uygur cenk = horse ass pimple.
terryweb 4 months ago
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@terryweb you're right, we should kill all non-christians!
UberTankred 4 months ago
"No man can wish more ardently than I do that all our public offices may be filled by men who fear God and hate wickedness;" - T. Parsons, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Massachusetts
ReaganGoldwaterBuckl 4 months ago
cenk you love america but you hate property rights. hypocracy goes both ways here. obviously the answer to all these questions is RONPAUL2012.
rolgorevene 4 months ago
I quit watching MSNBC after Cenk was fired....
ssallen1s 5 months ago 2
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Amendment 1: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
erm... perhaps I missed the part about the seperation??
TheRatfuck 7 months ago
honestly, if these senators don't even know the basics of our country's constitution, then that really scares me.
MissJeriB 7 months ago 5
Turk the jerk you really do not understand the concept our founding fathers had regarding Church & state. You read the quote but do not understand it. Mr. Muslim
bnjones28 7 months ago
@bnjones28 Exactly how is he wrong? oh and he's not muslim. please respond; i really want to know the basis you have for saying that.
TheOnlyAttrition 7 months ago
@TheOnlyAttrition Seperation of church and state was to protect the church from the gov. attempting to have one state religion and to protect churches from the gov. trying to influence churches.
bnjones28 7 months ago
@bnjones28 and to protect the government from influence from any church.
TheOnlyAttrition 7 months ago
@bnjones28 What does he not understand? The words are very precise and there is only one correct interpretation that can exist from them. They are that clear.
Pax00Imperium 2 months ago
This guy is basically the liberal Bill O'Rielly....
Sirafrican 7 months ago
@Sirafrican actually hes smarter than O'reilly and makes TONS more sense. His views (liberal views) also tend to line up more with reality than conservative views (especially socially conservative views).
TheOnlyAttrition 7 months ago
@TheOnlyAttrition To you he's smarter than Bill O'Reilly because you share the same views with him... If Bill O'Reilly made more sense to you then you would think that Bill is smarter than Cenk....
Sirafrican 7 months ago
@Sirafrican actually, he is smarter than bill, regardless of his views. and the fact that his (Cenk's) views make more logical sense helps.
TheOnlyAttrition 7 months ago
the sepraton of church and state is irrelivant, because our voters and represintives are going to be influnced by there religons anyway.
don222able 8 months ago
such a whinny voice, he never debates with a human being, so I GUESS HE'S ALWAYS RIGHT!!! LOL!
carmel350 8 months ago
Seperation of church and state isnt in the constitution. It was in a letter thomas jefferson wrote to the danbury baptists association. The first amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Same concept of course but people seem to get the phrases mixed up.
LoganBlackP 8 months ago
@LoganBlackP
but thats what people mean when they say "seperation of church and state" it may not say those exact words in the constitution but thats what it implies.
meaning that no religion can pass laws based on its teachings (Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion) and the state or federal government cannot ban the worship of any religion (prohibiting the free exercise thereof)
AceofDiamonds0 8 months ago
Cenk, you are absolutely; the government shouldn't establish a religion. However, you have grossly misconstrued what "separation of church and state" means to average Americans. To the average person, it means that religion and politics should never mix. When the conservatives said they didn't see the separation of church and state in the Constitution, they were alluding to the modern understanding. Every one of those conservatives are unequivocally opposed to a unification of church and state.
CalebRedmond 8 months ago
@CalebRedmond What is the modern version of separation of church & state? Whenever you allow the gov't to behave like a church or allow its elected officials to invoke a religious bias through their elected power on tax payer money then that is personal religion involved with gov't. It is using religion for the power for persuasion. And I think this becomes clear whenever you hypothetically allow a minority religious point of view a voice through the power of the gov't. just like Cenk said
Fishqueen1972 8 months ago
YOUNG TERKS MUTHAFUCKA WE ON TV NOW WE RUN THI HE NEEDS TO SHIT ON BILL ORIELLY NOW PLEASE
MrPimentalJR 8 months ago
I don't hate Dylan Ratigan but I do think he may be an android.
beesleeper 8 months ago
State Religion: dischordianism.
jacobromu 9 months ago
cenk is a freaking genius. he is incredibly smart and open minded. its unfortunate that alot of fox news viewers cant see it that way.
PorscheGT2turbo 9 months ago 9
@PorscheGT2turbo Cenk is very smart, however he's also very biased and close-minded. I don't think we the public should listen to any person that is one-sided in their views. Cenk is just as quick to target FOX news for biased reporting as FOX is of spinning their facts. I for one would like a media person that is impartial. Both the GOP and the DEM are a plague to this country. One does it though welfare and weakness while the other steals from the poor and uses religion as a tool for greed.
shadowedge69 9 months ago
@shadowedge69 If you the public doesn't want to listen to him turn him off. Commentators are paid to have an opinion, have bias and have strong views. Anchors such as Brian Williams are thought to be impartial, but talking heads like Cenk, Rush, Beck, Radigan have to state strong opinions, that's their job.
skeech15 9 months ago
@skeech15 That sounds great in theory doesn't it? But let's examine the collective intelligence of the public and you tell me that biased reporters aren't dangerous. You're right about what you say of course, I'm just pointing how how stupid people are. Cenk proves my point on a daily basis as mostly GOP politicians are clearly clueless of our Constitution yet they reword it in a way to exploit their agenda. The fact that FOX news is #1 with all their crappy reporting just proves my point.
shadowedge69 9 months ago
@shadowedge69 I agree that most people are stupid and that it's not the best thing for this country that reporters are biased, but these networks are businesses. Their main goal is to make money. FOX and MSNBC found that you need to put out ridiculous asshats that hold biased points in order for people to follow. CNN tries to be unbiased and their ratings are not doing that great. You can't blame the networks for putting out biased news if people are following like sheep.
skeech15 9 months ago
@PorscheGT2turbo If this is really you ride way to go. But to call turk the jerk a genius, well all I can say is can you drive you ride very good?
bnjones28 7 months ago
To bad Cenk was born in Turkey because he could potentially make a great executive leader. I would never be on board with changing the constitution so get him where we can. :)
cmonty72 10 months ago
@cmonty72 Where does it say in the constitution you need to be born in America? lol
SuperBenzid 9 months ago
@cmonty72 People born outside the US can still hold executive office. Look at Shwartzenegger in Cali.
skeech15 9 months ago
@skeech15 I meant on a federal level. get him where we can though..;)
cmonty72 9 months ago
Is it just me or does it seem like Dylan Ratigan is kissing Cenk's buttocks here? He needs to stop drooling and ask him on a date already.
kubush 10 months ago
@redryan20000 hitler was christian but more specifically he was catholic.
spencerdev91 10 months ago 2
You put religion and state together and guess what fuckers, you have sharia law. Maybe no stonings or any of that disgusting bullshit, but you have religious law nonetheless. Then you all whine about Sharia in muslim states, you'd be no fucking worse. Take your disgusting religious bullshit and shove it up your ass. On another note, Go Cenk :D
Tryfing94 10 months ago
it whuld be only the ironical if they whuld get rid of the seperation of church and state only to have muslims impose their sharia law in there. i bet they have not thouth about that. christianity is historicaly in a state of decline, even thou they advertised them self as fastest growing religion, the area that they are majority has divndeld. europe is become more and more secular. while muslims are moving away from middle east to western countries. state and religion do not mix.
gooddarkjedi 10 months ago
Let's face it, the Bible States are really fucked up, Lincoln must have been on crack to let them rejoin the union.
sidd0123 10 months ago
OUR GOVERNMENT HAS NO MORALS WITHOUT GOD.
LOOK AT HITLER WHO WAS AN ATHEIST WHO WAS ALSO EVIL
ALL HAIL OUR MASTER GOD
redryan20000 11 months ago
@redryan20000 Yeah your totally right except Hitler was a catholic. Woops, reality kind of got in your way there buddy. Don't worry I'm sure you'll plug your ears and pretend it never happened and that the Nazi's didn't believe they had God on their side.
Here's a little tip: Every side thinks they have God with them, does the winner actually have God with them? No.
Xirbtt 10 months ago
@Xirbtt hahahahah
redryan20000 10 months ago
@redryan20000 Hitler was the most christian that you can get. His anti-semitism was inspired by christian teachings. Hitler is perfect example of your god, both are monsters. thou hitler was real, your god is not.
gooddarkjedi 10 months ago
@redryan20000 I suspect you're a troll but I give you the benefit of the doubt. You want to see evil? Read your bible. The God of the bible is one of the most evil characters in all of fictions.
kubush 10 months ago
@redryan20000 Hitler was a christian and believed he was doing God's work - read his book!
auritone 9 months ago
And I wonder why MSNBC is nearly bankrupt.
asull822 11 months ago
Wow, 35 people are worse "Americans" than a "Turkish" guy.
prabhatpalpal 1 year ago
republicans are idiots, they cannot get the explicit messages.
Zeldagigafan90210 1 year ago
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RidleyPrime16 1 year ago
Why does this guy hate God?
paultheuglydog 1 year ago
@paultheuglydog Why would anyone? Because the concept is illogical. Most of us grow OUT of our imaginary friends.
OsxinBraveheart 1 year ago
@paultheuglydog Are you retarded? Seriously. You'd have to be REALLY dim to simply take away the impression that "Cenk hates god", after hearing him say what he just said. He happens to be agnostic, which means that he doesn't really have a committed standpoint when it comes to theism. But this isn't about his own personal beliefs. This is about political separation from religion. Buuut of course, I think I can safely assume that you're a conservative christian idiot who's playing victim.
sluttyfrogmagician 1 year ago
@sluttyfrogmagicia Agnostic means that one does not have 100% proof, thus everyone is an agnostic.
Agnostic atheists and agnostic theists are everywhere for they can not prove or disprove the existence of God(s).
Well I guess people who've met God or God himself would not be agnostic, nor would people whom disproved the existence of God(s); Cenk is an agnostic atheist.
If I told you that there is cheese on the Moon, you wouldn't believe it but can not disprove it so you'd be agnostic about that.
kingkong8974 1 year ago
@kingkong8974 I know that there are different interpretations of what it means to be agnostic, but by your definition, it literally includes everyone, so it pretty much loses it's value. My understanding is that agnostics believe that the answer is unknowable. I think that the answer is knowable, even though we don't currently know it. If you told me the moon was cheese, wouldn't I be "acheesist" if I didn't believe it, but not agnostic because I believe that this is ultimately answerable?
sluttyfrogmagician 1 year ago
@sluttyfrogmagician Gnostic literally means knowledge with absolute certainty, and Agnostic means knowledge that isn't absolutely certain. But it does show that there are degrees of Agnosticism. You are agnostic about whatever belief until absolutely certain, so it doesn't matter if you believe it can be proven in the future. There are lots of terms, and when all used you'll find that every word does have meaning and with enough words the meaning is precise.
kingkong8974 1 year ago
@sluttyfrogmagician Gee, I was liking you thoughts until you showed you Lib. colors by name calling.
bnjones28 7 months ago
@paultheuglydog
because america is a democracy.
what if government worked like religion? one all powerful ruler making up all the rules and everyone else must obey them or suffer for all time. the 'followers' of religion have no say in the rules or laws, and the ruler can basicly do anything he wants.
i think there already is a form of government like that, its called a dictatorship. so the question isnt "Why does this guy hate God?" the question is "why does god hate democracy?"
AceofDiamonds0 1 year ago
@paultheuglydog What makes you love God? HE okay-ed holocaust, slavery, sexism, 9/11, pedophilia in-spite of being all powerful. I don't find anything lovable about HIM when I'm in the streets of India looking at disease inflicted poor people struggling to have a piece of bread in two days or someone frozen to death due to excessive cold because of no clothes and home. I'd hate such an all powerful God.
prabhatpalpal 1 year ago
@paultheuglydog Because he thinks it makes you appear more intelligent if you do noy believe in God. Because you understand the world better than those who believe in God. Kinda stupid, right?
bnjones28 7 months ago
Ratigan should be banned from ever saying Cenk's last name again
MikeEmery9 1 year ago
Well said Cenk. Very well said.
DARTHeeek 1 year ago
4:50 FTW cenk makes christian conservatives heads explode
dontliethetruth 1 year ago
Cenk/Superman '12
BoredAtHome44 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me the specific Islamic prayer Cenk recites? Thanks
2edsajdmsa 1 year ago
@2edsajdmsa it is islamic words but not islamic prayer... the first is bismilahi rahmani rahim which means in the name of GOD the extremely graceful & merciful... and 2nd he said ash hadu an laa ilaha illa laah which means I witness every Idol as worthless to worship except worshipping the one true GOD of existence.
abubakar31 1 year ago
@abubakar31 Thank you very much :-)
2edsajdmsa 1 year ago
Good show Cenk!
Octstorm 1 year ago
One of my favorite Cenk rants
tuck5649 1 year ago
The church and all religion is a limit on the rights of people. That being said merging church and state would make our country less free. Who are the people wanting to make more laws regarding morals? Take a random guess and I bet it will have something to do with the church and religion.
AForkSpoon 1 year ago
Pretty cut and dry.
black487 1 year ago
she was talking about statism, not theological religion(s), which negates virtually everything he was going on about
regresseur 1 year ago
Thomas Jefferson would slap this Sharron Angle bitch up side the head.
mrx0066600 1 year ago 2
I support christian fundamentalists over cenk.
fringeelements 1 year ago
@fringeelements Ok "bee fucking 69er" first off thats a wierd thing to like to fuck. The church and all religion is a limit on the rights of people. That being said merging church and state would make our country less free. Who are the people wanting to make more laws regarding morals? Take a random guess and I bet it will have something to do with the church and religion. You are saying you support less freedom over more freedom.
AForkSpoon 1 year ago
I hate the young turds
beefking69er 1 year ago
@Lighthouse724 nope it was Arabic but he tried to pronounce those words as bad as he can..
yerkan41 1 year ago
The State is god. Creator of rights.
ToxicOdiousOne 1 year ago
@Lighthouse724
... sounded like garbled Arabic?
mikkelchap 1 year ago
Think for yourselves. I once 'believed,' but now I see the true Light.
mikkelchap 1 year ago
Jesus! Have these people ever read a book, besides the bible, in their entire lives?!
Arikiel 1 year ago
@Arikiel Most Christians don't read the Bible. If they did, most of them would give it up.
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gatjjadkaa 1 year ago
Glenn Beck said that one of the reasson of slavery was religion, politics and science base on economic interest so now im surpirse he support such narrow minded idea. If i dont want to belive in your gods or goddes it is my butsiness not some burocrat in washington. What state needs to warranty is that everybody has the free speach option so ppl can decide what idea they want to follow. After all, sadly, god is just an idea and nothing else. We all want it to be true.
JoseGtassh 1 year ago
@jpl10380 But that is not her argument. Her statement simply was " You will not find the phrase Separation of Church and State in the Constitution." That is all she said! She did not get into interpreting the law. All she said was the WORDS separation of church and state are not in the constitution. And guess what, she is right. The WORDS separation of Church and State are not in the constitution. That may have been their intent; however, she is right that phrase is not found
1333fuller 1 year ago
@1333fuller So she was just putting words together. Just haven fun with nouns and verbs and whatnot? I've read some dumb things on the internet friend, but your argument is silly. Her statement to the effect that it's not in the constitution was intended to imply that there should be some other interpretation. I reiterate, the first amendment MEANS there is a separation of Church and State. If an ingredients list listed 3% sucrose, what would be the point in saying it doesn't list sugar?
jpl10380 1 year ago
Religion and Governemnt should be separate. And I say that as someone who believes in God.
Trickishismael360 1 year ago
@Repremender What question? Yes, I do know the difference between secular and atheism. It is and was "innocent" for many decades in America. I don't see the relevance of the 30 year war. We were not having religious battles or killing each other. Removing expression of faith came because atheists sued, not other religions.
CommonSenseJoe 1 year ago
... these are the same bastards who criticise Sharia laws in Islamic states... and they want to integrate church and state??? That, is basically what Sharia IS!!!!
I might vomit.
CuteMcBeauty 1 year ago
Republicans are easily possessed by demons and dracula...
frostedhead 1 year ago
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Religious whack jobs in government will be the downfall of this nation. When everyone realizes that there is no god we'll all be much safer.
gordonfanchris 1 year ago
A better title, "fundamentalists and their desired government."
Juefawn 1 year ago
Awesome, Cenk with his own TV show. Bring it on, man!
lye54 1 year ago 37
@lye54 I cant wait because after viewing many turks videos, I've realized this guy don't know to much, just like MSNBC!
HaloBillRod 1 year ago
@HaloBillRod Oh the irony of your statement kills me.
Macabre215 11 months ago
@HaloBillRod Kind of like how you don't know the difference between "to" and "too". Yeah Cenk's a bit more in the know how than you random youtube commenter. Learn some grammar.
Xirbtt 10 months ago
Roosevelt 'spoke' to God before he ordered the atom bomb on Japan while Bush also did so before he released the US military might on Iraq. Religion is evil in this sense. God is used to legitimize evil deeds. Same for Muslims. Killing in the name of God. The Al Qeda issue and weapon of mass destruction, as asserted to be the main issues, could have been dealt with in a saner, more cost effective way and avoid generating more hate against their and provide more fodder for violence.
lye54 1 year ago
Religion is the rule of all evil. Believing in that God/Religion bullshit, you have got to be a psycho. If you believe in any of that fairy tail non-sense, just go to the top of a sky scrapper and jump off of it and they pray to your imaginary God and see if he saves you. If he does, I promise you that I will start believing that shit, until then I will continue being rationale and sane.
jrda128 1 year ago
"it isn't just"
for how many generations have your fathers spoken english???
inquiring assholes want to KNOW((that's ENGLISH)
theosophers 1 year ago
@theosophers that ammendmendment(o' literate One)
prohibits the disESTABLISHMENT of any religion.
for this reason:
the amendment prohibits the use of this dear english word ESTABLISHMENT
try running one and leave politics alone...
if it was a crime to speak english in america, you sir would be the first one, under arrest!!
theosophers 1 year ago
"To protect the church from a state religion". Why can't it go the other way around and protect the state and its people from the church?
kmelfina 1 year ago
@Repremender Walk around Washington DC and look at all the PUBLIC buildings with Scripture and references to God on them. Then try to tell me that the founding fathers were opposed to ALL expressions of faith.
CommonSenseJoe 1 year ago
@Repremender Keep reading the Bible. It will do you good. No one said anyone was establishing a theocracy. I did not say the atheists "came along". I said the Supreme Court started considering them a group needing protection from being exposed to faith.
CommonSenseJoe 1 year ago
(continuation) I find it fascinating that he read the Jefferson quote and came to a conclusion that he felt was obvious but was not even close. If you read the whole letter, as I have, Angle's interrupted statement is perfectly in line with Jefferson's point, which was to assure the Danbury Baptists that the government would not be establishing a state religion. It's funny that there is a TV channel dedicated to this absurdity.
jonahclaudiaisaiah 1 year ago
Even if you believe that "these religious fanatics are a threat to a modern society," please tell me you recognize that this is totally a strawman argument. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE ADVOCATING A STATE RELIGION... not in these clips nor elsewhere. While this guy loves to hear himself talk, he's totally fabricated the issue in the first place. Sharron Angle nailed this. (continued)
jonahclaudiaisaiah 1 year ago
When Cenk is on the Rant show....at the beginning... he looks like he's gonna kick some ass!
mochaguy22 1 year ago
Just because you say something loudly and in a derogatory way doesn't make you correct, Cenk. The 1st amendment clearly says that "CONGRESS shall pass no law" to establish a religion. That applies to federal government only. That allows the states to do as they wish.
Thomas Jefferson even went on to write Virginia's own 1st amendment in our state legislature to establish the same principle in this state.
This is where I disagree with you. I hope that's clear enough.
MaverickH1 1 year ago
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When Palin becomes President, Church and State WILL BECOME ONE!
ecwaufisxtreme 1 year ago
Ratigan should dial down the Uygur adulation a little bit. It's a bit much.
charlesf 1 year ago
GASP! You can say "Damn" on news TV? Wow! Maybe TV censorship is coming out of the 40's. :)
joebrueske 1 year ago
Jefferson needs to be here in person to address these people..."maybe" they will understand...doubt it...
humper9 1 year ago
I think Ratigan wants to suck Cenk's cock!.... Or at least he wishes he was a Young Turk.... I think he may be hinting at the possibility of TYT on msnbc!!
heyjudedude27 1 year ago
@heyjudedude27
You mean PUSSY!
ecwaufisxtreme 1 year ago
@ecwaufisxtreme Nooo.... Cenk is a man. And Men have cocks... But you wouldn't know anything about that would you? Southern home schooled conservative I presume? Hahahaha! Oh, and you don't suck pussy, you eat it! Another thing you know nothing about! Hahahaha!! You don't like Cenk?... Then you must be a douche.
heyjudedude27 1 year ago 23
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@heyjudedude27
No, men have PUSSIES! Women have COCKS! Palin has the BIGGEST ONE of them all!
ecwaufisxtreme 1 year ago
@heyjudedude27
actually you can suck pussy for short bursts.
SecularNumanist 1 year ago
@heyjudedude27 Wow you need to get a room with the Turk! Liberal I do declare! LOL...what a wacker! Yes there is a separation of church and state. Why would the church want to be saturated with the filth of the state. Thomas Jefferson wasn't stupid. Public schools who leave many behind! "uneducated buffoons!"
HaloBillRod 1 year ago
@heyjudedude27 haha dude the bitch you are commenting on is a troll. that cunt has been commenting on TYT vids for like a year spamming most videos with shit about sarah palin. just ignore it man
dsquaredmlg 11 months ago
28 people so far don't understand the constitution or haven't read it.
amberview30 1 year ago
FOLLOWING that, they dedicated the rights to the people, and freedom of establishing a religion would not be held down by state, nor an outside threat (Which can also be aimed as FEDERAL).
Catastraphecdv 1 year ago
1:35 is a lie! During that time near the end of the Inquisition, the STATE and the People's CONSTITUTION was being safe from THE CHURCH.. And that Church was the Vatican.
Catastraphecdv 1 year ago
By mid 2011 Cenk will have his own TV show. I'm callin' it and puttin' it on the record.
TheEmptyHunter 1 year ago
"no law respecting an establishment of religion"
im with cenk, could it be any clearer?
zknix20 1 year ago
I had a conversation with my grandma the other day and discovered that she really thought the freedom of religion meant you were free to be in any sect of Christianity. Yeah..
winxandnods 1 year ago
There are old science book that are wrong. But organized Religions refuse to change even if the original is different. They continue to show Jonnah in a whale, when it's a figure of speech. The whale is Greek, Anubis the Jackel is Egyptian, 3 Days is Aramean, Mars the storm is Roman. All it means is he miraculously survived. 3 days means from the Sun to Mercury, to Venus back to Earth. Actually they all do. They'd rather stick to a fantacy than, wow! actual proof.
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
We are all going to protest on election day by NOT VOTING ! Stay at home!
biskitlee 1 year ago
I wonder if Ratigan was hinting to us he's getting his own show?
MLadyAzzera 1 year ago
@Venaloid A convention never happened and it probably never will in our lifetime.
595o 1 year ago
@stafax Was he too over-the-top?
595o 1 year ago
@595o I don't think over the top is the right word. He sounded like he was in dieing and in pain while struggling to pronounce it.
stafax 1 year ago
cenk, you missed the whole point of the 1st amendment.
fbi10 1 year ago
Time to run a multi million ads against good old Thomas.
Is Thomas Jefferson a muslim?
Is Thomas Jefferson an American Citizen?
Is Thomas Jefferson someone you can trust?
Why is there so many questions about Thomas Jefferson.
Vote Tea Party, Church and our church and the state is the same thing, we own you.
garytcw 1 year ago
re·spect (r-spkt)
tr.v. re·spect·ed, re·spect·ing, re·spects
1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
3. To relate or refer to; concern.
The first amendment says that the goverment shall make no law respecting religion.
That means that the goverment can make no law showing any religion deferential regard for or esteem. It all depends on what definition of respect your useing.
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Fiction0001 1 year ago
These religous fanatics are a threat to a modern society. They should be forced to resign from office or impeached from thier offices & be transfered to a mental ayalsem.
EthanShreveReturns 1 year ago 7
give Cenk his own show it'll be the best thing that ever happened to MSNBC.
iago201 1 year ago 28
@iago201 Not just that, it'd be the best thing to happen to cable news.
nspeert 1 year ago
I bet any money Cenk in in Dylan's place before 2015.
KazekFuturi 1 year ago
Who the hell is talking in the background?! Do they not notice that the's a show being recorded?
MavenCree 1 year ago
Does Dylan Ratigan have a crush on Cenk or something? Every time the two are on TV together it's "my Young Turkish friend" and that one where he went around New York asking people to pronounce Cenk's name. And then he asks him "hey Cenk... you ever thought about getting your own TV show"? He asked it in a manner where I pictured Ratigan laying belly-down on the bed kicking his legs talking on the phone with Cenk.
Don't get me wrong, I like them both, but I'm just wondering.
DiverseLA 1 year ago 12
@DiverseLA cuz there are others like him now :D
helookslikefamousppl 1 year ago
@DiverseLA lmfao
Adriaantje2008 1 year ago
Umm... Like ummm.... It's law that no certain group with set ways to express Religion should mix with the state, but you can't exclude Religion it self. they'll be fiat laws to go with the fiat money. Like the laws of physics no longer apply on 9/11.... so now America has fiat science too. And plenty of fiat people.
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
More play on words marketing deceptions from both sides. Like Democracy, when the US is a Republic. They never say "Our Republic." Even though the Pledge does. The Constitution to the 3 branches to the citizen, is the same as priority to God, to Creation, Being, and Judgement, to the followers. People are becoming atheists to the Constitution. Making rules like printing money. Nothing to back it up. Just out of thin air.
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
hmm, why did Ratigan ask about a tv show? Is MSNBC planning a Cenk show? That would be so awesome!
dagrimmreepa 1 year ago
If you remove the concept of Religion from the state.... run the cities with war lords? Mob rule? That's why it's a Republic, not a Democracy. It has democratic elections, but that's about it. The Pledge of Allegence... to the Republic not Democracy. Real public means priority. Should a majority of cars going to work not pull over for one ambulance going to work?
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
Both sides are going extreme. First, it's ESTABLISHMENT of Religion. And CHURCH and state. The stars and colors of the flag are Religious. The shape and color of the Pentagon is Religious. There are Religious symbols all over Washington DC. The Pentagon means justice for the nation like satan is justice for the Universe. The stars are all states under justice and fear of it like...guess what?
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
@sunRsaturn Implementing pagan traditions (which also found it's way into Christianity) doesn't make something religious.
595o 1 year ago
@cloudvszell ...... It's the silence more than anything that make people unhappy in this country. Although, there are a few outspoken muslims on this matter, many stay silent. Sometimes the silence says more than words ever can. Think about it.
aSingleDallasGuy 1 year ago
Perhaps you should read the definition of "law".....If I forced you to be christian through the legislative process that is a law.....denying you the oppurtunity to put up an atheist sign on Christmas is a decision, not a law....No where in the Constitution does it say legislators are not allowed to make decisions of which religious symbols are allowed on public property....The Constitution states there shall be no LAW regarding religion.....Read the constitution, and read the definition of law
pennjersey83 1 year ago
@pennjersey83
When I see a dumb argument I know it's a Christian, lol.
When a bank manager gives you a loan it is because they have had power delegated to them in the fiorm of a Delegations Manual or Statement of Duties.
Go up to the top and you will find the directors of the bank are elected by the stockholders who own the bank. There is a Constitution which allows the owners to empower the directors to act on their behalf.
In the same way, decisions are made within the law.
patrickcorliss 1 year ago
It's an -establishment- of Religion. Actually, you cannot separate Religion from anything. It's the whole knowledge and intellegence in the Universe. The big bang isn't all that came from nothing, time and space being sustained is coming from nothing right now. As soon as it's no longer nothing, it's yours...lol. Your computer and electronics works by confusing it before it figures out to be a conductor or not. Quantum physics.
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
@sunRsaturn what is your point?
mnagmobile1 1 year ago
@mnagmobile1 That it's ESTABLISHMENT of Religion and CHURCH and state. And both mean the same thing. So none of the slickster con-artists and marketing minds from either side try and sell that there is no Religion in the state or it's a Christian state. Priority is in all denominations and spelled out by the symbol of the main 3 even. Ledgeslative, Executive, Judicial is the same as Create, Be, and Judge. It all comes from a Religion.
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
@sunRsaturn
Duh. Your defintion of religion sucks. The first amendment is talking about the establishment of a religion. That means an organised religious entity.
Politics has nothing to fear from the general Universe. The problem arises with its representatives in the Church or Mosque or Temple who tell us what is right or wrong.
It should be "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" not "get AIDS and die".
patrickcorliss 1 year ago
@patrickcorliss Same thing. Exclusive denominations have no say in real laws, even if they all got together and pushed them. But Religion itself, like science, can't be separated from anything. Like, Jesus died for 'our sins'. Yea, ones people made up, not real ones. Even if you take that the other way, then why kill them if Jesus already died for them? Religion is intellegence. So it has to make good sense. Organized Religion and more and more organized anything is just organized sadism.
sunRsaturn 1 year ago
these idiots at MSNBC are nothing but haters, a news program supposed to be un-biased, but all they do is hate on any and all republicans and dont even report any thing at all about the dems...............and im a democrat. i think i will start watching something else.
GrasshopperScott 1 year ago
@GrasshopperScott you do realize fox news does the same thing right ?
cloudvszell 1 year ago
@cloudvszell i was talking about MSNBC, NO FOX...i dont watch nor care about fox.
GrasshopperScott 1 year ago
@GrasshopperScott i know what you where talking about i stating a fact tho that both parties have a news station that does nothing but attack the other party and that its not just the democrats that do it if anything they just started doing whats been done to them for years
cloudvszell 1 year ago
@GrasshopperScott sorry same thing but from the republican side bashing on democrats
cloudvszell 1 year ago
@cloudvszell so the professionals that we turn to act like little kids? just because one does it, dont mean the others has to do it. they should be acting like professionals instead of like children.
GrasshopperScott 1 year ago