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  • Art has it's values, no doubt, but elitist morons like her love to overrate it, perhaps so they can think even highly of themselves than they already do.

    If all this *difficult,* elitist art is so "good* for the brain, then tell me why there is such a huge # of literary giants who end up committing suicide?

    What a self-righteous, pretentious, disingenuous asshole.

  • Wow, I thought I was agreeing with you until the 2nd paragraph. What a retarded thing to say. Many of the greatest philosophers in the world ended up going apeshit insane toward the end of their lives, denying their brilliance because of the fact they went mad is like denying micheal jackson's musical talent despite his pedophilia (btw im not his fan at all, just illustrating a point)

    oh and i don't think that art is good for the brain, but your argument to attempt proving it was ridiculous

  • If the lady was only making the claim that Art makes you smarter, then what appears to be my argument against it would indeed be retarded. However, I think the *good* which she's ascribing to her brand of elitist, *difficult* art pertains mostly to her belief that artistic folks are somehow more emotionally balanced than the rest of us, or as idiots like her like to say, that art is education of the emotions; to this claim alone can my argument be appropriately considered, and it's NOT retarded

  • i only watched 15 seconds of that video so I wouldn't know

  • Except that she claimed nothing of the sort. In fact she did not speak at all about "emotional balance". She spoke about what we have learned since the first drawing on a cave wall challenged and enhanced our ability to reason. This "education of the emotions" business sounds like a personal problem or experience of yours Mrmoc7.

    She is not the one who sounds like a moron, idiot or even pretentious.

  • Well, that is one man's opinion...

  • Opinion? Hardly, I say it is fact. What exactly did she say that proves otherwise?

    At best you have made an unwarranted and unsubstantiated assumption Mrmoc7

  • "What exactly did she say that proves otherwise?"

    She said that people who have more practice and experience with *difficult* art, the "artistic spinach" of the brain, those who have experienced the "humility and exhilaration" of a puzzling artwork, those who have not impulsively resisted the entry of Art into "places in [their] psyches that are not comfortable to be in," those who have (continued, see next post.....)

  • allowed art to "get into [their] vitals and turn [them] inside out, those who were fed this "artistic spinach" at a young age and have it as a reservoir to "draw on in later life," those whose brains have been challenged by difficult art to "make new pathways," are best disposed to deal with this "appalling stuff that's going to happen in our future," compared to those that don't "have any practice at dealing with it," that is, those who haven't been exposed to *difficult art.* (......end....)

  • As you can see from my two previous posts, my argument that she believes those who have been exposed to *difficult art* to be more emotionally capable/balanced than the rest of us is not unwarranted and unsubstantiated. I hope you will honor the efforts it took to piece together these various excerpts from her speech and not bother prolonging this argument further unless you STILL have a GENUINE point of disagreement on this topic.

  • There is no GENUINE point of disagreement Mrmoc7 . You have a genuine comprehension problem. There is nothing in your quotes that would connote seeking "emotional balance" or "education of the emotions". All of your selections are either poetic, intellectual or analogous to deliver both.

    IF such an attempt had been made it could be argued that it could be possible that some works of art could accomplish it. But since none was made that argument is moot and you are either wrong or deluded.

  • Reread what I wrote.

    Notice how i used "emotionally balanced/capable" differently than the way you're taking it. Is this intentional?

    Notice how I never claimed this woman said anything about "education of the emotions." In fact, my exact words were "...as idiots like her like to say, that art is education of the emotions."

    Isn't it paradoxical that I'm being accused of having a comprehension problem by a fellow who is unable to read plain English, let alone critically assess an argument?

  • You've just proved my point. First you called her an idiot with absolutely no evidence to indicate idiocy of any kind and now you have the temerity to claim to know what she would "like" to say even though she did not say it.

    What you are doing is called projecting not comprehending. I read exactly what you wrote that is the basis on which you were challenged Mrmoc7. No paradox at all.

    She simply did not say what you claimed, period.

  • "now you...claim to know what she would "like" to say even though she did not say it."

    That's the problem isn't it? I'm not just now trying to claim that. This is what I have claimed since the beginning, but you are now just seeing it after I called your attention to it, and like an imbecile, you're trying earnestly not to look like the complete buffoon you are by asserting "I've just "proved [your] point." I'm surprised that this kind of rubbish is coming from a 64 year old; SHAME on you.

  • No shame here. It's what I pointed out in the first place. Read my first post. You should have accepted it and learned from it Mrmoc7.

    You seem to feel that you can win an argument by making false claims whether its against her or me. It just does not work.

    Your ad hominem nonsence is rather obvious and puerile.

  • Her hair is a work of art.

    It downright screams, "Happy Trees."

  • Good job doing exactly what she is warning us about :)

  • wat?

  • didn't enjoy it? I love Spinach

  • 1:35 nice snooze there

  • To sum it all up "Modern art sucks, don't pay attention to it."

  • I hope you're joking. If not, you totally missed the point.

  • Don't you mean "to put it in a nutshell?"

    Scrotal humor is under-rated art.

  • Hey guys...the whole "THE WORLD IS THINKING" gets fucking old after about 867945 fucking videos. Especially when you watch a few in a row,

    So...yeah, we know. The world's thinking, hooray...now make up another intro or do like The Young Turks and just make one without audio. Because this one's starting to drive me batshit!

  • Difficult art like spinach?

    You mean overrated, because of an error in writing down the decimal places of the amount of iron contained, that lead to generations of artist torturing their children under the excuse that it contains ten fold the amount of this "healithy ambrosia" it really does?

  • Yes. I took my easel down from the attic.

    The last time I drew anything was 2001. But living thru the Bush Administration left me with the feeling I was mute; nobody up there was listening...

  • 0:17 audience laugh fail

  • They tried...None wanted to show the spinach in their teeth.

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