"When I am at home, I never go near the synagogue unless, say, there is a bar or bat mitzvah involving the children of friends. But when I am traveling, in a country where Jewish life is scarce or endangered, I often make a visit to the shul."
@gledalac1979 You must realize that there is nothing interesting or unique about you. You simply a garden variety, boorish, vulgar and astonishingly stupid anti-Semite.
@gledalac1979 Of course, your other unremarkable, boring quality is your jingoism. In this respect, people like you are interchangeable. Your denial of Serbia's war crimes differs not the least from the average American Vietnam-era hawk.
wow. all these people debating whether or not he is jewish obviously haven't read his memoir, hitch-22. his mother is jewish but hid it his entire life. being an atheist doesn't make him any less jewish, just like my being an atheist doesn't make me any less black.
@SteveJobsWorth .lol really? First of all i thought you had a merciful god.Second of all,what country do you live in?IN a market economy you do what you want,you ombecile.Why should they shovel about and do mediocre jobs when people like you fit the bill instantly.
@SteveJobsWorth Pretentious? You probably think he's pretentious because he can spell. Perhaps if you concentrated at school you wouldn't be shovelling shit for a living and impotently cursing your superiors on the internet.
@SteveJobsWorth These people are much more deserving of their wealth than most who share an equally opulent lifestyle. They enlighten our intellectual lives and in many case stand firmly behind the weak and downtrodden. You must be a particularly unpleasant character for rejoicing in Hitchens's bleak diagnosis; or perhaps you are one of those who have a vested interest in the irrational beliefs they both deride. If it's the latter, you are an anti-intellectual and naturally their principle enemy
there is nothing rational about this jewish suprmacist and his sick bloody goals of global domination. Ask him about the wars that he was pushing and he is still standing behind it. I wish I could kick his skull while he is still around.
@gledalac1979 Jewish? I think he had a distant Jewish ancestor but considering this and the fact that he is an atheist it seems really odd to call him a Jew. Also what wars are you talking about? He has been a huge critic of US foreign policy - especially over Cambodia and East Timor. Sure, he supported the war in Iraq, but that is hardly the most controversial position to adopt considering what Iraq was like before the war - Saddam killed close to a million of his own people.
His mother is a jewess which makes him a full blood jew or why do you think he is allowed and promoted by the big media despite being wrong about everything ?
Of course his wild and insane rants against Serbs,Arabs, Iran, Christians and every other other group targeted by the jewish establishment is a dead end clue as well .
Christopher Hitchens, out-spoken atheist, self-proclaimed Jew, married to Jewess Carol Blue. From The Times:
"[Hitchens] observes Passover (he discovered late in life that he was Jewish, his mother’s family having changed their name from Levin), which his Jewish wife thinks is contemptible....
He was married to his first wife in a Greek Orthodox church, to his second, Carol Blue, by a rabbi."
@gledalac1979 You are an idiot. You have gone from saying that he is a Jew to suggesting that he may be eligible to move to Israel. This does not make him a Jew. Hitchens is an open atheist.
@gledalac1979 Two points for you, you bombastic Balkan: Israel isn't a Jewish-only state. And - apropos your remark about Bill O'Reilly at another video - you were quite correct to challenge the numbskull who stated that ""No one, believing in Jesus, commits mass murder". Because your own precious Serbia did exactly that, carrying the banner of the Orthodox Church as they did so.
hey hitchens cultist jew lover , you can't fool people with your nonsense out here. Israhell is a jew only country run by jews only where only jews can immigrate with jewish only dwellings .As for your assertions about "serbian orthodox church" , well you are a hitchens lover so what can I expect from you but hostile nonsense and atrocity propaganda. I guess you must be a total dumbass or play one to follow the jewish neocoon hitchens.
@gledalac1979 So you hate Hitchens. Good for you. We don't. That's why we're listening to Hitchens. Quite why you would join us if you despise him so much is beyond me. Are you a masochist, perhaps? Or are you just on a smear campaign? If so you needn't bother. He's used to religious whack jobs hating him who are even more spiteful and crazy than you, so you're relatively tame. You are only getting so many comments back because you're fun to hate on, you know?
@gledalac1979 Incidentally, even if you hadn't given the game away, revealing your innate sadism, and irrationality by the loathsome remarks you make about Hitchens, your use of the noun "Jewess" tells us all we need to know about you, you lowlife troglodyte. Why don't you go pray to the ceiling for Ratko Mladić as long as you're already spewing obscenities anyway.
lol atrocity propaganda of jews and their minions and you may be both of them is a pure science fiction.
The jews are the most hateful people with 3 000 years of nothing but hate and misery wherever they went to and that's according to them. Hitchens is hiding his jewish identity like all jews in the world to hide his criminal intentions but no worry, once they get exposed and their religious dogma and state terrorism is gone, they will be gone for good
@gledalac1979 Ooo. This is fun. Let's both play. Hey Streicher cultist Chetnik lover, you can't fool people with your nonsense out here. Fascists like you are miserable, paranoid, anti-rational pigs.
You're also a fucking idiot. Hitchens is by no means "hiding his jewish identity", you fucked up moron. He's been proudly proclaiming it for decades, you fucking Balkan imbecile.
Lots of celebreties and important people are converting to islam? Are you going to cut their heads off if they change their mind? You Islam barfbags are going down!!!!
I never want to hear the words islam or muslim again. All of you pukes are going to dead soon then the world can get back to progress. You can stuff your hijab and all these lies.
In the "Show more" section you describe Hitch as both an atheist and an anti-atheist. Surely you mean an anti-theist. I don't think Hitchens has been an anti-atheist since he was about 6 years old.
It's amazing how similar these two are when they speak. Both supremely elegant, similarly witty. They both even have that idiocratic sharp nasal inhale or sniff. Great upload.
What if asian americans droned on and on and on about asian american achievement? It would be annoying after a while.
Jews have three things going for them.
1. Placebo effect: We are gods chosen people, therefore better than you. If i can convince others this is true, then the placebo is even more powerful.
2. The socratic method built into the culture. They ask questions.
3. The business fraternity of helping only other jews.
why don't these two morons get together and tell us how the jewish robber barons deserved their largess at the expense of the "lowly christian gentiles"
The quasi religious east coast jewish order has done FAR more damage to the world economy than Islam ever has or ever will.
Please extol the benefits of Jewish robber barons - Bernie Madoff, Ivan Bosky, Michael Milken, Larry Summers, Robert Rubin, Fuld, Greenspan -rode the bubble up and profited on the downside
@socratic1968 Yeah "socratic." I haven't learned one thing in the last 10 years that hasn't just depressed me more, except about the nature of human mediocrity, stupidity, neurosis and incompetence, which you grotesquely exemplify. The Jewish people, who've incomparably enhanced the arts, tend to be bright, through culture or (indiscussably) genetics. They succeed in business, which rewards thinking in limited doses. You're an idiot, suck my sweat-encrusted balls, and love it.
Ahh. So you show your true racist colors. Superior?! LOL! No wonder everyone hate you greedy thieves. You play the victim card which allows you to murder palestinians by the dozen and your robber barons like madoff steal from christian retirement funds. You are sick.
The best minds are almost always christians, not self promoting jews.
@socratic1968 Darwin was not Christian. I have met some Christians who are smart, though. And Hindus, and Druidists, and Odinists, and Hellenists, and Taoists and Tupis. I know brilliant physicists from Jewish families, but they are very shy.
What is disgraceful is the blatant racism of people like you and Jews in general.
The fact is that Israelis have a less than average IQ when compared to other industrial nations. When compared to caucasion american christians, Israelis are less intelligent.
Hitch is a fat ass who hasn't had a single original thought in his entire life. He is a shill for neocon banking usury.
Therefore, your statement about jews' superior "(indiscussibly) genetics" is dead wrong.
@socratic1968 Anti-semitism is the funniest racism, since it's based on human mediocrity, dementia and selectively-implemented schizophrenia. Please go on! I'm a huge fan of your act. Calling Jews "racists" is especially brilliant! Calling uh "Newton" the greatest biologist, presumably because you're a Christian, is inspired and hilarious!
You are so desperate that you cling to obvious typos as if they were given my imprimatur. Please refer to the above post. Obviously, Charles Darwin was the greatest biologist EVER.
I'm sick to bloody death of Jews who have sold the world a sob story of "holocost" and the self - promote themselves to the point that they siphon off the labor of the working class.
Yet here you are with your feeble mind arguing that it is OK for Jews to steal from working class gentiles.
@socratic1968 Damn Jews and their bullshit " 'holocost' " story. Thankfully we have the learnedness of you, so we may be educated about the, ahem, " 'holocost.' "
@socratic1968 "Blatant racism of people" then you proceed to spin numbers for racist ends? As for Hitchens not having an original thought, who cares? He was a journalist and is widely considered one of the best writers of our time.
hitch recently assailed the younger generation for not having a movement equivalent to what he had wrt to vietnam, his wwii parents, the sexual revolution, etc.
SOME young people have tuned into a movement that would turn the world of the Gods upside down.
This is the UFO reality and the presence of ET's and non - human interaction with our species.
So, the new reality dwarfs Hitch's turncoat, pinko, juvenile, basic thinnking.
Common good for a jew means projecting hatred outward to "gentiles"
Hitch is a user and an idiot drunk.
His is NOT an intellectual. He hasn't even attempted to tackle the pressing human problems of the UFO phenomenon, possible alien lunar bases and the dearth of images despite multiple orbiters from multiple nations such as China, India, Japan and our LRO which has taken tens of thousands of images and released only about 100 to the public.
Jung wrote a book on the "UFO phenomenon", so you are correct that the great intellectuals have looked into it. Not sure what CH thinks about it though.
Hitch attacked mother teresa for taking money from the roman catholic robber baron, Keating. He even called her a "douche bag"
But, since he knows what side the US east coast bread is buttered, he is disgracefully silent when it comes to the jewish robber barsons like madoff, goldman sachs, larry summers, his best friend neocons, etc.
why do you think that is? (asking question is THE socratic method), thus proving your statement wrong)
Oh oh. Forgive me. I am Irish, and like naughty Limericks, and since Shackleberrysolely initiated a homo-fellatio-theme to the video a week ago I shall recite a Limerick that I am sure the venerable Shackleberry will appreciate with moist relish............................
Interesting one Shackleberry,apart from expressing a wish for 2 men to perform fellatio(Freudian latent homo tendencies maybe), was wondering if you had an opinion on the central tenet of the video,namely Semites and diaspora in the widest sense. If you wish to stick manfully to the male fellatio thread I fully understand. By the way,in my comments page you are torn between being an Irish,Australian and Japanese man !! WTF.
His accent and French grammar may come across as a 'tad elitist, but he is nonetheless an erudite and entertaining speaker.Better,I think to focus on that than infantile humour about his speech and sexual predilictions.Such a detailed posting about anthropology and Zionism,with so much to mull over,and all you can talk about is that he should perform oral sex on his co-speaker.
As the great blue comedian "Roy Chubby Brown" would say,"your brains are obviously in your bellend" !!
I am afraid he's got no time to blow Hitchens, for he is too busy banging your mother !! As for his french-usage,granted his language and accent may come across as a 'tad elitist,however he is nevertheless an erudite and entertaining speaker to hear and that should be the main consideration,not infantile comments about his french vocab. and his sexual predilictions....besides,he is too busy doing your mother :-)
i wish martin amis would stop trying to be jewish. it is just so bogus. i have no issue with judaism (just as silly as any other religion) but i do have an issue with a perfectly good writer spending his creative energy on a cause that isn't even his. it just doesn't ring true.
Obviously, Mr. Newshit4brains, you think that somehow jewish tribalism is superior to the nontribalist.
Can't you see that people don't like Jews like you, Hitchens, and Amis, because they go on and on about jewish achievement and how great is is to be in the jew club.
It has NOTHING to do with you being a jew. ITs that ONLY a complete ass hole would draw lines of separation like this.
If you are a Pro-Semite, you must support the Torah?
One of my favoroite Semite laws in the Torah is the one about murdering your gentile slaves.
Whether a child, or a woman, we know from your Semite institutional morality that is is WRONG to murder a human that you OWN. That is, unless, if the victim lives for a few days, THEN the Pro-Semites like ADAM tell me that there is no punishment...WHY? Because the slave is Semite property. Exodus 21, Chapter 20
Why does it follow that a pro semite must support the torah? Semite is an ethno-cultural distinction not necessarily connected to theistic beliefs.
You have seriously mis-characterized my beliefs. I've actually used biblical laws similar to the ones you're quoting to argue against religious beliefs. Look at my tumbler page; I think I have a couple articles there about how immoral the bible is. In the future, you might want to understand what your opponents actually say before you attack them.
Why, for christ sake, do you feel a need to distinguish yourself from others based on the nonsense of Judaism?
It kills me that Hitchens, for example attacks Catholics who distinguish themselves based on corresponding moronic criteria, - demanding apologies for barbarism dating back centuries.
YET, Hitchens seems to swim freely amongst the insular "ethno cultural" Jews - Never ONCE demanding apologies for Jewish atrocities.
How can any thinking person not question his circus barking?
Obviously you didn't heed my advice to understand my position before you attack me. What statement have I made that would in any way indicate that I am, or feel a need to, "distinguish" myself from others based on the nonsense of Judaism or anything else? Seriously, do you just read the first couple words and then reply? I usually use the entire character count. You should try reading the whole thing next time.
I have the same problem with fundamentalist Judaism that I have with Christianity and Islam: They're based out of old crazy texts that turn us all against each other.
Kind of. The problem with youtube is that people are really anti-semitic because they have the cover of anonymity. People bare their hatred for Jews, blacks, gays, Hispanics, Gypsies, etc.
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adam-
You are a prosemite? Is that what you are saying?
If I point out to you that the Semite Deity threatens to smear shit in my face if I don't do his bidding. And I make the paux objection that I don't particularly like feces in my face.....Am I one of those Eeeeeeeeeeviiiiill ANTI SEMITES!!!!!!!!!
Not at all. I am about as ardent an atheist as it gets and I'd be perfectly happy for everyone, Jews included, to give up silly religious superstitions. I am no more pro-semite than I am pro-palestinian or pro-arab or pro-gay.... I am pro-human and that's it. I generally think we are better off if we support the "pro" side of things than if we support the "anti" side of things. I'd rather be both pro semite and pro gentile than anti semite and anti gentile if that makes sense.
I just went back and read some of my drunken comments and your response. I made some clever remarks , though I went a bit mel gibson on you though my agressive points are made from the humanist perspective.
But, you impressed me with your calm and level headed response to my hard charging, somewhat comical arguments. Cheers. God bless.
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Doesn't it seem a bit odd to you that Christopher Hitchens goes out of his way to call the christian Mother Teresa a "Douche bag" , but somehow, he has only kind words to say about a JEWISH man named Leyba Davidov(ich) Bronstein.
Maybe you don't know this, but Bronstein was the mass murderer former head of the Red Army. The public knows him as Trotsky.
So, a Christian who helps the poor is a Douche Bag, but a mass murdering Jew is a hero.
Oh goodness, you are so pure and holy, aren't you? Why do you give a flying fuck who Hitchens admires or criticizes? He is entitled to his opinion. So, go ahead give the mass-murdering non-Jews Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Arafat, Osama bin Laden, etc. etc. a pass on their behavior. Yeah, as long as their not Jews, they're okay in your mind-numbingly skewed reality. Time for you to run and hide before the big, bad, bogey-man Jew gets you. Hahaha! Coward!
when you and your bigot-buddies get together for your circle-jerks, you probably fantasize about Madoff. A jerk is a jerk, Jewish or not, as you have so convincingly proven yourself to be. Now go fuck yourself.
You are the bigot. A sick jewish bigot who thinks that this world is the promised land, given to you by your deity.
My suggestion to you and people like you is to take up Yahweh's offer given in your beloved old testament, Malachi, 2:3 where your loving deity suggests smearing sh** in your face.
Like Christianity and Islam, Judism is sick if it is taken to heart, that is, literally.
I suggest you read evilbible (dotcom) if you want to educate yourself as to how evil the bible is.
I agree somewhat in what you imply, that being, some kind of cultural element to the abuses on wall street and general banking. Yes, many of these rich scum bags are Jews.
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I have offered an historical and anthropological explanation as to why there is a disproportionate number of "Jewish" folks at the center of the financial crisis.
You offered nothing in return but insults.
How do you explain the financial meltdown from a cultural point of view with respect to the jewish culture?
You have offered NO SUCH THINGS. iN FACT, YOU HAVE OFFERED NOTHING but bigotry rooted in centuries of prejudice and an exaggerated sense of the importance of your own viewpoint. Opinions ARE NOT TO BE REPRESENTED AS FACT. If you believe otherwise, then you are a hopeless cause.
It is time to kill this thread and for you to get some help with your bigotry. I mean this with all sincerity. PLEASE GET SOME HELP.
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Its jewish apologists like you that tell the public how ANYONE would steal like Bernie Madoff if they had the chance. If I were Bosky or Milken or Levin, I would steal just as much right?
WRONG!
I'm not a fucking thief. There is a sick cultural aspect to the Jewish culture that causes them to TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE.
This happens over and over and over and over again.
Goldman Sachs worked against our efforts in Iraq to stabilize oil. How many jewish banker kids enlisted in the army?
The man who invented the Ponzi scheme was of Italian extraction. Would we hear you complaining if Madoff had been Christian? I doubt it. What about the many Jewish philanthropists like Bloomberg? Doesn't their culture cause them to GIVE GIVE GIVE GIVE? The point is, the paradigm of Jew=thief that's stuck in your head is very one-sided & shows paranoia more than logic.
What about Dick Cheney, Halliburton and their connection to Iraq?
How many Christian banker kids enlisted in the army?
I was speaking of HANK GREENBERG, who created the "financial products" part of AIG etc. Can't you answer a simple question? Why is it that Jews are overrepresented when it comes to massive theft in the financial institutions of this country? Madoff Milken Bosky Greenberg Levin Fuld etc, etc. etc. ? What is it about this culture that needs to TAKE TAKE TAKE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Bullshit u were talking about Greenberg! U are repeating urself like a broken record! Milken & Boesky were indicted for insider trading; (so was Joe Kennedy.) Fuld was not bailed out, Lehman collapsed.
In ur tiny, squeezed, hopelessly skewed world-view, there is always going to be the spectre of some JEW lurking around the corner trying to hurt you. U have consistently proven that no amount of rational argument is going to enlighten u because u r stubbornly motivated by hate/fear ¶noia.
True. To make a statement that is factual only can be taken the wrong way. But to take a fact and insinuate a conclusion other than what the fact states is also wrong.
Stalin and Hitler both have Mustaches, I find something very sinister about that don't you. The Amish don't like mustaches because only men of war have them. I think they are on to something.
You might be on to something about the Jews and the world bank collapse also. :P
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Marty's path to becoming a philo-semite seems terribly contingent. What if his first girlfriend had emasculated him or his Jewish wife divorced him, took him for everything he's got, ran off with the Hitch and denied him custody of the daughters?
Would he then be less enamoured of Saul Bellows novels?
Or what if each of these sexual and social partners had been arab? Would he now be an enthusiast for the Califate?
Really poor stuff from someone who dabbles in philosophy. He's losing it.
I accept the conceit of the role (nothing wrong with a little "obi wan kenobi" complex): People on this website tend to accept arguments by pathos rather than by logos.
Therefore you should guide them to logos through pathos, if you want more thumbs up.
LOL, you've proved that the only comments worth reading have red negative sixes or better.
"...enthusiast for the Caliphate?" haaha
I agree that it seems that people will join whatever group helps in their primal reproductive desires. Their intellect justifies this as a secondary intelligence.
So, those who choose to tell me they are "Jewish" or "Christian" or whatever, tells me they are willing to step all over you for their social ascension.
Being of Jewish lineage, I can back it up. We are cheap, we are horrible tippers and we absolutely hate to make life easy on car owners or those looking for affordable housing.
On the other hand, we also cured polio, invented color television and William Shatner, our most gifted representative, fought and defeated the Gorn on Cestus III.
There are some shitty things about every culture, but don't throw everyone out with the trash because of one particular defect.
Being collectivist is not cool basically. I wish all 'groups' of people would stop seeing themselves as labels and start seeing themselves simply as people. It seems like we have a long way to go still.
That is an excellent point. We tend towards tribalism.
I don't want to hear about your "Jewish" copper age tribe.
I can't believe that Hitchens can live with these contradictions. On one hand he attacks the old testament, pointing out that its texts are completely immoral, and on the other hand he is here endorsing people who value the old testament.
Don't tell me you're Jewish, you might as well just say "I'm Stupid but I hope i can make some money by networking."
I never said the greatest minds WERE Jewish, you bigoted dolt. If you had a shred of intellect and a sense of humor - you would have understood the comment I was making.
Your ensuing rant was also ridiculous and pathetic. You assumed I was a practicing Jew and I am not - I'm very secular.
And Trotsky? Maybe he felt the same way about all of you Christians - "sick to bloody death" of your nonsense, bogus humility and pretentious ranting.
Where are his criticisms of Goldman Sachs? Madoff? Bosky? Milken? Fuld? Greenspan? Summers? and all of the other jewish bankers who have destroyed the world economy for their greed.
I don't think Hitch would hold back oif mormons were the heads of these banks.
And how many of them are actual practicing jews? The jews have a long and proud history as philosophers, scholars, scientists, and artists. There are also a fair share of scum bags in the bunch. Propagandist for jewish culture? Hitchens has bashed hanukhah both in print and in speech, condemns the Israelis on a regular basis, and in his books, essays, speeches, and debates condemns circumcision. Apparently you haven't read or heard much from Hitchens, so you might very well be "dead wrong".
So what is he doing here giving this interview? Why does he want Jews to be proud of Marx? Or, specifically Freud? - who told us that women's psychological problems are caused by "Penis envy"?
Passover is the core celebration of Jews. They celebrate the murder of babies. What value is the jewish fraternity if not simply a self serving business arrangement?
Because it's a culture which he feels is important. He isn't supporting judaism, just the jews themselves. Why not be proud of Marx, he was a great thinker of his day even if his theories on economics turned out rather badly, Voltaire thought that at high speeds people would fall apart, doesn't make him an idiot. So you take one thing that Freud said and ignore all the work he did which benefitted psychiatry? Passover celebrating the murder of babies wtf? The same could be said of any fraternity
Passover is the celebration that other people's babies were murdered instead of Jewish babies. Its as simple as that.
I agree that Freud has some good things to say.
But what gives with the tribalism? How can a culture that values taking land, money, etc from Gentiles with impunity be values because of a few scientist?
The Israeli IQ is LOWER than that of most European countries. I'm sick to death of Jews claiming they have some sort divine right to steal your savings at Goldman Sachs.
Say what? It's celebrating the escape from egypt (which according to many archaeologists never took place). It isn't the deaths of children which is what is being celebrated. It certainly is "simple" though not in the way you mean. When did jewish culture demand stealing land? You're thinking of their religion (just ask any Israeli settlers about what their faith is). When did "Jews" claim they had a right to steal your money?
Continued. IQ tests aren't a terribly reliable standard of measurement. I'm originally from Munich (been in america over a decade) germans have one of the highest average IQs of any people, but i don't run around asserting we're smarter than everyone else. By the way what is a "jewish company" anyway? As for Hitchens' "silence" i haven't seen him write or debate upon much of anything regarding high finance, jewish or otherwise.
Ever heard of the promised land? It was the land of Canan and it was already occupied.
That is why Moses and his predecessor Joshua fought to exterminate men, women, and children. It was genocide, in order to steal land that belonged to others.
Yes and that was done by a fictitious religious figure (there isn't any evidence other than hearsay that Moses existed). The fact that it was fictitious makes piffle of your claim, and even those who support those actions do so out of religious fervor, not cultural identity.
Lol i wasn't speaking for the religion, i was speaking for the ethnicity. It comes with it's own ethnic identity which is of great cultural relevance. It isn't any different than being Irish or Punjabi.
So if Passover doesn't matter to them then what are the characteristics that make up the "ethnic identity" of Jews?
Passover IS core to the ethnicity because is demonstrative God's preference for Jews over others. Hence, the idea that only the Jews know God. Judism is an ethnic religion, like Hinduism. Totally different than the world religions, like Christianity and Buddhism.
Jewish tribalism is destructive, like look how the banking industry has destroyed the world's economy.
No it isn't core to their ethnicity, it's core to the religion. You even say it yourself later in your comment, thus contradicting yourself. God in all probability doesn't exist, also keep in mind that jews probably have a higher percentage of atheists than any other ethnicity. You mean greed is destructive, the fact that many of them have "stein" or "berg" at the end of their name is irrelevant.
Again you're missing the boat, "mormon" is not an ethnicity. And what leads you to belief that being "jewish" is the reason that these companies are responsible? It's racist nonsense. Take take take? If you had say russians or chinese people running these companies what would make you think the outcome would be any different? Any way you slice it we return to your comical prejudice. Amazing how you take a cultural discussion and start gibbering about high finance.
I didn't think i would have to explain why mormonism isn't an ethnicity, i assumed you were an otherwise intelligent adult. Judaism isn't an ethnicity it's a religion, practiced primarily by Jews. Your answer is that Jewish people have been affiliated with the banking industry for hundreds and hundreds of years. There's also a disproportionate number of Jewish Nobel Prize winners, what's your point? You keep repeating this as though it means something.
You contradict yourself with such ease its scary. You just wrote regarding judism " It comes with it's own ethnic identity which is of great cultural relevance" Then you claim it has not ethic identity? WTF?
BTW Jewish Nobel Prize Winners is a complete lie when compared to other caucasions. Blue eyed people have so diluted Jews that they are basically germanic. So your point is racist as you obviously are and completely mute.
Your seemingly irrational fear of all things Jewish looks very similar to What Hitler Claimed against the Jews.
Except of course the "fact" that they killed Jesus.
To be Jewish, by Jewish Law, from birth your Mother has to be Jewish. Or you can become Jewish through ceremony, or so I am told by an Old Jewish Man my Father Knew.
But is a person of the culture of being jewish or Hebrew if they do not participate or believe in the precepts of passover? Even if their Mother was Jewish?
Einstein was not a believer in a Personal God or the whole trappings of the Religion. Neither was Issac Assimov. Are they part of the culture or Ethnicity.
Still I digress. What does the Banking catastrophe have to do with being Jewish. Or are you still worried about the Council of 300? And the Rothschilds?
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"What does the Banking catastrophe have to do with being Jewish?"
You've got to be kidding I hope.
There IS a cultural element to the epicenter of this crisis and there IS a Jewish component.
As Joseph Campbell said sarcastically "Nobody knows God but the Jews"
This is an ethic religion, a religion whose deity lead them to a promised land that was already occupied. The "chosen people" were required by their hunting/herding male deity to murder everyone because it was THEIR land.
As this being an ethnic religion, all religions are at their root ethnic. The first Christians were all Jews.
But somehow you are equating the state of being Jewish itself being evil. And somehow that means that because their is a disproportionate (?) number of Jews in banking that banking is evil?
As for Jews in Banking, if you study history and what happens to a people that are because they are Jewish are denied mundane livelihood, trade, farming, etc. the only option open was banking.
Part of this is because Banking as a profession was seen by the Christian as being evil. But the funny thing is they had no problem going to the banker.
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ever heard of the term "Usury"?
In the old testament, it is OK to charge the "gentiles" interest, but not ok to charge your fellow jew.
Same thing with slavery. OK to own a slave for life so long as he/she is a gentile. NOT ok if he/she is Jewish. Can't you see that this affects the Jewish culture?
Any amount over 10% in my opinion is USERY.
So we have a financial meltdown and Muslims are saying "TOLD YOU SO" christians..."what just happened?"
You do I hope understand I am not Jewish nor do I support Israel, nor am I a Christian, nor a Muslim or what ever.
But I am not to fond of unfounded conspiracy theories.
However I have always suspected that the predominance of Arabic or middle eastern types in the ownership of Party Stores is a Muslim plot to subvert America through our dependence on cigarettes and beer. Damn "Camel Jockeys" any ways.
For the jihad inclined out there, that is meant as satire towards Socratic1968.
lol completely disgusting, obsequious fellating of kikes...only a pompous englishman could manage servility with so little restraint
DrStephenJKrune 3 months ago
@DrStephenJKrune WHAO! OAHW! OHWA! No! No!
TheThreadshitter 1 month ago
Thumbs up if you happen to also be a philo-semite.
johnbenjamin12 4 months ago
christopher hitchens:
"When I am at home, I never go near the synagogue unless, say, there is a bar or bat mitzvah involving the children of friends. But when I am traveling, in a country where Jewish life is scarce or endangered, I often make a visit to the shul."
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 You must realize that there is nothing interesting or unique about you. You simply a garden variety, boorish, vulgar and astonishingly stupid anti-Semite.
telejimmy57 6 months ago
@telejimmy57
Who isn't ?
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 Of course, your other unremarkable, boring quality is your jingoism. In this respect, people like you are interchangeable. Your denial of Serbia's war crimes differs not the least from the average American Vietnam-era hawk.
telejimmy57 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 I think what he meant to say was 'I never go near the synagogue unless, say, there is a bar.'
bertiethetoupee4 6 months ago in playlist Hitchens & Martin Amis- Antisemitism
wow. all these people debating whether or not he is jewish obviously haven't read his memoir, hitch-22. his mother is jewish but hid it his entire life. being an atheist doesn't make him any less jewish, just like my being an atheist doesn't make me any less black.
HoneyMiel327 6 months ago
@SteveJobsWorth Wow! I'm glad the godly are slowly but surely diminishing.
244Ohiro 7 months ago
@SteveJobsWorth .lol really? First of all i thought you had a merciful god.Second of all,what country do you live in?IN a market economy you do what you want,you ombecile.Why should they shovel about and do mediocre jobs when people like you fit the bill instantly.
laudrup90 8 months ago
@SteveJobsWorth Pretentious? You probably think he's pretentious because he can spell. Perhaps if you concentrated at school you wouldn't be shovelling shit for a living and impotently cursing your superiors on the internet.
huwperduper 8 months ago
@SteveJobsWorth These people are much more deserving of their wealth than most who share an equally opulent lifestyle. They enlighten our intellectual lives and in many case stand firmly behind the weak and downtrodden. You must be a particularly unpleasant character for rejoicing in Hitchens's bleak diagnosis; or perhaps you are one of those who have a vested interest in the irrational beliefs they both deride. If it's the latter, you are an anti-intellectual and naturally their principle enemy
gwangjuboy1 8 months ago
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fuck Hitchens , hopefully he can endure as much pain as most of his victims
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 Only the irrational would get so irked by Hitchens. Does it hurt to see him deride your irrational fantasies?
gwangjuboy1 6 months ago
@gwangjuboy1
there is nothing rational about this jewish suprmacist and his sick bloody goals of global domination. Ask him about the wars that he was pushing and he is still standing behind it. I wish I could kick his skull while he is still around.
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 Jewish? I think he had a distant Jewish ancestor but considering this and the fact that he is an atheist it seems really odd to call him a Jew. Also what wars are you talking about? He has been a huge critic of US foreign policy - especially over Cambodia and East Timor. Sure, he supported the war in Iraq, but that is hardly the most controversial position to adopt considering what Iraq was like before the war - Saddam killed close to a million of his own people.
gwangjuboy1 6 months ago
@gwangjuboy1
His mother is a jewess which makes him a full blood jew or why do you think he is allowed and promoted by the big media despite being wrong about everything ?
Of course his wild and insane rants against Serbs,Arabs, Iran, Christians and every other other group targeted by the jewish establishment is a dead end clue as well .
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gwangjuboy1
Christopher Hitchens, out-spoken atheist, self-proclaimed Jew, married to Jewess Carol Blue. From The Times:
"[Hitchens] observes Passover (he discovered late in life that he was Jewish, his mother’s family having changed their name from Levin), which his Jewish wife thinks is contemptible....
He was married to his first wife in a Greek Orthodox church, to his second, Carol Blue, by a rabbi."
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 You said that Hitchens was a Jew - there is nothing there that suggests that he is.
gwangjuboy1 6 months ago
@gwangjuboy1
his mother is a jew and his wife is a jew which makes him eligible to move tomorrow to the jewish
only state of israel. Obviously you can't accept that fact about your jewish/post modern messiah
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 You are an idiot. You have gone from saying that he is a Jew to suggesting that he may be eligible to move to Israel. This does not make him a Jew. Hitchens is an open atheist.
gwangjuboy1 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 Two points for you, you bombastic Balkan: Israel isn't a Jewish-only state. And - apropos your remark about Bill O'Reilly at another video - you were quite correct to challenge the numbskull who stated that ""No one, believing in Jesus, commits mass murder". Because your own precious Serbia did exactly that, carrying the banner of the Orthodox Church as they did so.
telejimmy57 6 months ago
@telejimmy57
hey hitchens cultist jew lover , you can't fool people with your nonsense out here. Israhell is a jew only country run by jews only where only jews can immigrate with jewish only dwellings .As for your assertions about "serbian orthodox church" , well you are a hitchens lover so what can I expect from you but hostile nonsense and atrocity propaganda. I guess you must be a total dumbass or play one to follow the jewish neocoon hitchens.
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 So you hate Hitchens. Good for you. We don't. That's why we're listening to Hitchens. Quite why you would join us if you despise him so much is beyond me. Are you a masochist, perhaps? Or are you just on a smear campaign? If so you needn't bother. He's used to religious whack jobs hating him who are even more spiteful and crazy than you, so you're relatively tame. You are only getting so many comments back because you're fun to hate on, you know?
bertiethetoupee4 6 months ago in playlist Hitchens & Martin Amis- Antisemitism
@gledalac1979 Incidentally, even if you hadn't given the game away, revealing your innate sadism, and irrationality by the loathsome remarks you make about Hitchens, your use of the noun "Jewess" tells us all we need to know about you, you lowlife troglodyte. Why don't you go pray to the ceiling for Ratko Mladić as long as you're already spewing obscenities anyway.
telejimmy57 6 months ago
@telejimmy57
lol atrocity propaganda of jews and their minions and you may be both of them is a pure science fiction.
The jews are the most hateful people with 3 000 years of nothing but hate and misery wherever they went to and that's according to them. Hitchens is hiding his jewish identity like all jews in the world to hide his criminal intentions but no worry, once they get exposed and their religious dogma and state terrorism is gone, they will be gone for good
gledalac1979 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 Ooo. This is fun. Let's both play. Hey Streicher cultist Chetnik lover, you can't fool people with your nonsense out here. Fascists like you are miserable, paranoid, anti-rational pigs.
You're also a fucking idiot. Hitchens is by no means "hiding his jewish identity", you fucked up moron. He's been proudly proclaiming it for decades, you fucking Balkan imbecile.
telejimmy57 6 months ago
@gledalac1979 "Who isn't?"
I'm not.
telejimmy57 6 months ago
israel needs to get the fuck out of Palestine
dillinger9999 8 months ago
If there is a god I wish Hitch a "devine healing"...of sorts, if for nothing more than the hell of it or ANY reason for that matter.....
ftjax 11 months ago
Lots of celebreties and important people are converting to islam? Are you going to cut their heads off if they change their mind? You Islam barfbags are going down!!!!
williweb9788 11 months ago
I never want to hear the words islam or muslim again. All of you pukes are going to dead soon then the world can get back to progress. You can stuff your hijab and all these lies.
williweb9788 11 months ago
In the "Show more" section you describe Hitch as both an atheist and an anti-atheist. Surely you mean an anti-theist. I don't think Hitchens has been an anti-atheist since he was about 6 years old.
LondonPride25 11 months ago
Socratic1968 is retarded
LordChimpKing 1 year ago
What happened to the dudes nose? The bloke on the right hand side
BangkokJohnny
Royaume de Thailande
carsanookdotcom 1 year ago
It's amazing how similar these two are when they speak. Both supremely elegant, similarly witty. They both even have that idiocratic sharp nasal inhale or sniff. Great upload.
bertiethetoupee4 1 year ago 3
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"supremely elegant" ? lol
What if asian americans droned on and on and on about asian american achievement? It would be annoying after a while.
Jews have three things going for them.
1. Placebo effect: We are gods chosen people, therefore better than you. If i can convince others this is true, then the placebo is even more powerful.
2. The socratic method built into the culture. They ask questions.
3. The business fraternity of helping only other jews.
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968
>What if asian americans droned on and on and on about asian american achievement? It would be annoying after a while.
Yes, with surnames like Hitchens and Amis, it's clear that this is just a couple of old Yids droning on.
>Placebo effect: We are gods chosen people, therefore better than you. If i can convince others this is true, then the placebo is even more powerful.
I never understood the twin charge from antisemites of "chosenness" and also being atheists. Which is it?
theuntergroundman 1 year ago
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why don't these two morons get together and tell us how the jewish robber barons deserved their largess at the expense of the "lowly christian gentiles"
The quasi religious east coast jewish order has done FAR more damage to the world economy than Islam ever has or ever will.
Please extol the benefits of Jewish robber barons - Bernie Madoff, Ivan Bosky, Michael Milken, Larry Summers, Robert Rubin, Fuld, Greenspan -rode the bubble up and profited on the downside
Is there any common good?
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968 Yeah "socratic." I haven't learned one thing in the last 10 years that hasn't just depressed me more, except about the nature of human mediocrity, stupidity, neurosis and incompetence, which you grotesquely exemplify. The Jewish people, who've incomparably enhanced the arts, tend to be bright, through culture or (indiscussably) genetics. They succeed in business, which rewards thinking in limited doses. You're an idiot, suck my sweat-encrusted balls, and love it.
opinioninflicting 1 year ago
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socratic1968 1 year ago
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@opinioninflicting
Ahh. So you show your true racist colors. Superior?! LOL! No wonder everyone hate you greedy thieves. You play the victim card which allows you to murder palestinians by the dozen and your robber barons like madoff steal from christian retirement funds. You are sick.
The best minds are almost always christians, not self promoting jews.
Physics - Newton, Heizenberg
Biology-Darwin
Novelist-Joyce
Mathematics-Newton, Leibniz
Anthropology- Campbell
psychology - jung
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968 Darwin was not Christian. I have met some Christians who are smart, though. And Hindus, and Druidists, and Odinists, and Hellenists, and Taoists and Tupis. I know brilliant physicists from Jewish families, but they are very shy.
LiberdadeHedonista 1 year ago 4
@LiberdadeHedonista
Hallelujah!
Anyone with sense will avert their eyes from socratic1968's idiotic posts (I made the er of reading a few) and Flag them For Spam.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago
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@opinionshittydebater-
What is disgraceful is the blatant racism of people like you and Jews in general.
The fact is that Israelis have a less than average IQ when compared to other industrial nations. When compared to caucasion american christians, Israelis are less intelligent.
Hitch is a fat ass who hasn't had a single original thought in his entire life. He is a shill for neocon banking usury.
Therefore, your statement about jews' superior "(indiscussibly) genetics" is dead wrong.
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968 Anti-semitism is the funniest racism, since it's based on human mediocrity, dementia and selectively-implemented schizophrenia. Please go on! I'm a huge fan of your act. Calling Jews "racists" is especially brilliant! Calling uh "Newton" the greatest biologist, presumably because you're a Christian, is inspired and hilarious!
opinioninflicting 1 year ago
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@opinionshit4brains
You are so desperate that you cling to obvious typos as if they were given my imprimatur. Please refer to the above post. Obviously, Charles Darwin was the greatest biologist EVER.
I'm sick to bloody death of Jews who have sold the world a sob story of "holocost" and the self - promote themselves to the point that they siphon off the labor of the working class.
Yet here you are with your feeble mind arguing that it is OK for Jews to steal from working class gentiles.
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968 Damn Jews and their bullshit " 'holocost' " story. Thankfully we have the learnedness of you, so we may be educated about the, ahem, " 'holocost.' "
TheYellowTelevision 1 year ago
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@opinioninflicting
Jews ARE racist you halfwit semite.
Don't you have a wall to whale on somewhere!?
Religion is division.
Jews in the US are a quasi-religious group that has put their selfish purposes ahead of the common good.
This has resulted in the annihilation of Earth's economy.
Would you like to discuss how Goldman Sachs bets against Hitchens and the neocon foreign policy of securing world energy supplies?!
Goldman Sachs = Jewish Usury
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968 have you read or watched anything by Dr. Norman Finkelstein?
diceyLee 1 year ago
@socratic1968 "Blatant racism of people" then you proceed to spin numbers for racist ends? As for Hitchens not having an original thought, who cares? He was a journalist and is widely considered one of the best writers of our time.
dionusos2 1 year ago
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@dionusos2
hitch recently assailed the younger generation for not having a movement equivalent to what he had wrt to vietnam, his wwii parents, the sexual revolution, etc.
SOME young people have tuned into a movement that would turn the world of the Gods upside down.
This is the UFO reality and the presence of ET's and non - human interaction with our species.
So, the new reality dwarfs Hitch's turncoat, pinko, juvenile, basic thinnking.
He's not an intellectual and won't be remembered
socratic1968 1 year ago
@socratic1968 whore
SvendsenAtheist 1 year ago
His dad's line gets the biggest laugh.
Lebowski53 1 year ago
Common good for a jew means projecting hatred outward to "gentiles"
Hitch is a user and an idiot drunk.
His is NOT an intellectual. He hasn't even attempted to tackle the pressing human problems of the UFO phenomenon, possible alien lunar bases and the dearth of images despite multiple orbiters from multiple nations such as China, India, Japan and our LRO which has taken tens of thousands of images and released only about 100 to the public.
Instead, hitch turns to tribalism. Disgraceful
socratic1968 1 year ago
Jung wrote a book on the "UFO phenomenon", so you are correct that the great intellectuals have looked into it. Not sure what CH thinks about it though.
jtimothynewman 1 year ago
You are as far from Socratic as one could ever get.
sickofgod69 1 year ago
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@sickofgod69
you are an idiot.
Hitch attacked mother teresa for taking money from the roman catholic robber baron, Keating. He even called her a "douche bag"
But, since he knows what side the US east coast bread is buttered, he is disgracefully silent when it comes to the jewish robber barsons like madoff, goldman sachs, larry summers, his best friend neocons, etc.
why do you think that is? (asking question is THE socratic method), thus proving your statement wrong)
U Inferior fuck.
socratic1968 1 year ago
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An excessive percentage of Jews are greedy and tribalist. Madoff, Milken, Bosky, Greenspan, Goldman Sachs, etc. etc.
Other people dont' like greedy tribalistic people.
Therefore, other people don't like Jews.
So simple.
socratic1968 1 year ago
Oh oh. Forgive me. I am Irish, and like naughty Limericks, and since Shackleberrysolely initiated a homo-fellatio-theme to the video a week ago I shall recite a Limerick that I am sure the venerable Shackleberry will appreciate with moist relish............................
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Shackleberry sat in a van,..
and used to bugger himself with a fan,..
and when taxed with these acts,..
he replied it contracts,..
and expands,..
RATHER more than a man,. !! :-)
lalanaseminole 2 years ago
Interesting one Shackleberry,apart from expressing a wish for 2 men to perform fellatio(Freudian latent homo tendencies maybe), was wondering if you had an opinion on the central tenet of the video,namely Semites and diaspora in the widest sense. If you wish to stick manfully to the male fellatio thread I fully understand. By the way,in my comments page you are torn between being an Irish,Australian and Japanese man !! WTF.
lalanaseminole 2 years ago
His accent and French grammar may come across as a 'tad elitist, but he is nonetheless an erudite and entertaining speaker.Better,I think to focus on that than infantile humour about his speech and sexual predilictions.Such a detailed posting about anthropology and Zionism,with so much to mull over,and all you can talk about is that he should perform oral sex on his co-speaker.
As the great blue comedian "Roy Chubby Brown" would say,"your brains are obviously in your bellend" !!
lalanaseminole 2 years ago
Amis is a pretentious TWAT! He should stick his French up his pompous ass and stick to blowing his boyfriend Hitchens!
shackleberry 2 years ago
I am afraid he's got no time to blow Hitchens, for he is too busy banging your mother !! As for his french-usage,granted his language and accent may come across as a 'tad elitist,however he is nevertheless an erudite and entertaining speaker to hear and that should be the main consideration,not infantile comments about his french vocab. and his sexual predilictions....besides,he is too busy doing your mother :-)
lalanaseminole 2 years ago
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@lalanaseminole
Have another drink you idiot fuck.
Jews have fucked the world economy. Just read the news you kike fuck.
Ever head of GoldmanSachs? Milken? Madoff? Bosky?
Hitch is a moron who called mother teresa a "douche bag" for taking money from catholic robber barons.
BUT, when the robber barons are quasi jews and have annihilated the world's economy. he shuts his fat ass mouth.
Like you, Hitch is a disgrace to his former self.
socratic1968 1 year ago
i wish martin amis would stop trying to be jewish. it is just so bogus. i have no issue with judaism (just as silly as any other religion) but i do have an issue with a perfectly good writer spending his creative energy on a cause that isn't even his. it just doesn't ring true.
haret0n 2 years ago
Does anyone notice in the description text on the right says "Both an atheist and 'anti-atheist'..." uh yeah
PychoJetBlack 2 years ago
yeh, should be anti-theist
thrillhouseuncut 2 years ago
there's a very big difference.
joejjohnston 2 years ago
"Socratic1968" and "alienmoonbase" are the same user. You can tell by the joint-nature of their retardedness.
MrNewchange 2 years ago 19
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thanks for the complement.
Obviously, Mr. Newshit4brains, you think that somehow jewish tribalism is superior to the nontribalist.
Can't you see that people don't like Jews like you, Hitchens, and Amis, because they go on and on about jewish achievement and how great is is to be in the jew club.
It has NOTHING to do with you being a jew. ITs that ONLY a complete ass hole would draw lines of separation like this.
so fuck you. Good luck with the muslims btw. LOL!
socratic1968 2 years ago
@MrNewchange Well-reasoned.
dantean 1 year ago
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If you are a Pro-Semite, you must support the Torah?
One of my favoroite Semite laws in the Torah is the one about murdering your gentile slaves.
Whether a child, or a woman, we know from your Semite institutional morality that is is WRONG to murder a human that you OWN. That is, unless, if the victim lives for a few days, THEN the Pro-Semites like ADAM tell me that there is no punishment...WHY? Because the slave is Semite property. Exodus 21, Chapter 20
Therefore I am an anti-semite?!
socratic1968 2 years ago
Why does it follow that a pro semite must support the torah? Semite is an ethno-cultural distinction not necessarily connected to theistic beliefs.
You have seriously mis-characterized my beliefs. I've actually used biblical laws similar to the ones you're quoting to argue against religious beliefs. Look at my tumbler page; I think I have a couple articles there about how immoral the bible is. In the future, you might want to understand what your opponents actually say before you attack them.
adamredwine 2 years ago
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Why, for christ sake, do you feel a need to distinguish yourself from others based on the nonsense of Judaism?
It kills me that Hitchens, for example attacks Catholics who distinguish themselves based on corresponding moronic criteria, - demanding apologies for barbarism dating back centuries.
YET, Hitchens seems to swim freely amongst the insular "ethno cultural" Jews - Never ONCE demanding apologies for Jewish atrocities.
How can any thinking person not question his circus barking?
socratic1968 2 years ago
Obviously you didn't heed my advice to understand my position before you attack me. What statement have I made that would in any way indicate that I am, or feel a need to, "distinguish" myself from others based on the nonsense of Judaism or anything else? Seriously, do you just read the first couple words and then reply? I usually use the entire character count. You should try reading the whole thing next time.
adamredwine 2 years ago
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You semite fucks need to read you sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick bible.
If I object to threats from your Jewish Deity, that I will be starved to the point of eating my own children and hoarding afterbirth for food?! WTF?
Deuteronomy 28 chap 47....
Nnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo....I am an EVVVvvvvvvil ANTI - Semite boogy man.
Coming to gas you.
GIve ME A FUCKING BREAK
socratic1968 2 years ago
I have the same problem with fundamentalist Judaism that I have with Christianity and Islam: They're based out of old crazy texts that turn us all against each other.
PapaMagnum 2 years ago
What's up with all the anti-semitic comments? Is this part of a youtube neo-nazi group or something?
adamredwine 2 years ago
Kind of. The problem with youtube is that people are really anti-semitic because they have the cover of anonymity. People bare their hatred for Jews, blacks, gays, Hispanics, Gypsies, etc.
PapaMagnum 2 years ago
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adam-
You are a prosemite? Is that what you are saying?
If I point out to you that the Semite Deity threatens to smear shit in my face if I don't do his bidding. And I make the paux objection that I don't particularly like feces in my face.....Am I one of those Eeeeeeeeeeviiiiill ANTI SEMITES!!!!!!!!!
socratic1968 2 years ago
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Read your own hellish sicking sadistic piece of fecal literature you call the Toah....
Malachi, Chapter 2, vs 3
socratic1968 2 years ago
Not at all. I am about as ardent an atheist as it gets and I'd be perfectly happy for everyone, Jews included, to give up silly religious superstitions. I am no more pro-semite than I am pro-palestinian or pro-arab or pro-gay.... I am pro-human and that's it. I generally think we are better off if we support the "pro" side of things than if we support the "anti" side of things. I'd rather be both pro semite and pro gentile than anti semite and anti gentile if that makes sense.
adamredwine 2 years ago
@adamredwine
I just went back and read some of my drunken comments and your response. I made some clever remarks , though I went a bit mel gibson on you though my agressive points are made from the humanist perspective.
But, you impressed me with your calm and level headed response to my hard charging, somewhat comical arguments. Cheers. God bless.
socratic1968 1 year ago
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petrina1022-
Doesn't it seem a bit odd to you that Christopher Hitchens goes out of his way to call the christian Mother Teresa a "Douche bag" , but somehow, he has only kind words to say about a JEWISH man named Leyba Davidov(ich) Bronstein.
Maybe you don't know this, but Bronstein was the mass murderer former head of the Red Army. The public knows him as Trotsky.
So, a Christian who helps the poor is a Douche Bag, but a mass murdering Jew is a hero.
Hitchens- on the wrong side of history
socratic1968 2 years ago
Oh goodness, you are so pure and holy, aren't you? Why do you give a flying fuck who Hitchens admires or criticizes? He is entitled to his opinion. So, go ahead give the mass-murdering non-Jews Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Arafat, Osama bin Laden, etc. etc. a pass on their behavior. Yeah, as long as their not Jews, they're okay in your mind-numbingly skewed reality. Time for you to run and hide before the big, bad, bogey-man Jew gets you. Hahaha! Coward!
petrina1022 2 years ago
you simple minded Ignorant fool.
If hitchens turned a blind to christians or muslims I would attack with the same ferosity.
its you who needs to question your judeo-centric view.
Modoff was a muslim? NO
Christian? No
Jew ? YES
How can you not acknowledge this fact? You are a disgrace.
socratic1968 2 years ago
when you and your bigot-buddies get together for your circle-jerks, you probably fantasize about Madoff. A jerk is a jerk, Jewish or not, as you have so convincingly proven yourself to be. Now go fuck yourself.
petrina1022 2 years ago
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You are the bigot. A sick jewish bigot who thinks that this world is the promised land, given to you by your deity.
My suggestion to you and people like you is to take up Yahweh's offer given in your beloved old testament, Malachi, 2:3 where your loving deity suggests smearing sh** in your face.
Your Jew god must really love you.
Go whail at a wall you ignorant semite lunatic.
socratic1968 2 years ago
You think I'm making that up?
READ YOUR SICK SICK SICK SICK OLD JEWISH TESTAMENT.
There are more moral lessons in horton hears a who, that your sick old testament. you are a sick sick sick sick sick sick sick individual.
socratic1968 2 years ago
Like Christianity and Islam, Judism is sick if it is taken to heart, that is, literally.
I suggest you read evilbible (dotcom) if you want to educate yourself as to how evil the bible is.
I agree somewhat in what you imply, that being, some kind of cultural element to the abuses on wall street and general banking. Yes, many of these rich scum bags are Jews.
alienmoonbase 2 years ago
The Jewish mythology describes the exodus from Egypt to the so called "promised land"
The "promised land" was already occupied. So, their deity told them to murder everyone and exterminate.
The christian settlers of america followed this model and its known generally as "manifest destiny".
Today, cultural Jews of the financial variety see their promised land as the 401k savings accounts of the working class gentiles.
There IS a cultural element. If you don't think so, you are naive.
socratic1968 2 years ago
You're psychotic. Get help PLEASE.
petrina1022 2 years ago
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I have offered an historical and anthropological explanation as to why there is a disproportionate number of "Jewish" folks at the center of the financial crisis.
You offered nothing in return but insults.
How do you explain the financial meltdown from a cultural point of view with respect to the jewish culture?
socratic1968 2 years ago
You have offered NO SUCH THINGS. iN FACT, YOU HAVE OFFERED NOTHING but bigotry rooted in centuries of prejudice and an exaggerated sense of the importance of your own viewpoint. Opinions ARE NOT TO BE REPRESENTED AS FACT. If you believe otherwise, then you are a hopeless cause.
It is time to kill this thread and for you to get some help with your bigotry. I mean this with all sincerity. PLEASE GET SOME HELP.
petrina1022 2 years ago
Hitchens has spent most of his life on the wrong side of history.
Wrong on vietnam, wrong as a trotskyist communist, wrong on the Iraq war, wrong about calling Mother Teresa a "Douchebag"
Now he is wrong by omitting any criticism of his fellow "Jews" who have destroyed the world's economy.
Fact: ground zero of the current depression was where? NEW YORK
Who worked to eliminate the Glass-Steagle laws ? Catholics? Guess again fuck face.
Who invented the CDO?
Pull you head out of your *
socratic1968 2 years ago
Hahaha! is that the best u can do?
You know you're losing a debate to persuade others when you resort to calling people "fuck face."
I'd like to see Hitchens himself have a go at you. The sheer verbal evisceration he'd deliver would be stunning; quite entertaining indeed!
petrina1022 2 years ago
To "socratic"1968:
I can say with certainty almost mathematic
that your thinking
is distinctly
UNsocratic!
petrina1022 2 years ago
"You fail to answer a simple question. WHY IS THERE A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF JEWS RUNNING THE COMPANIES THAT STEAL FROM THE PUBLIC?"
Hence I wonder about you. You seem to be saying that the companies that "Steal from the Public" are predominantly Jewish.
Do they in your opinion steal because they are Jewish?
If this is not your opinion, why would companies that that are Jewish run or not concern you?
Seeker64 2 years ago
WOW!!
I didn't know Liddy (AIG) and Hendersen (GM) were Jewish!!
**Pffffffffftt!!**
(sound of ur balloon deflating)
petrina1022 2 years ago
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Its jewish apologists like you that tell the public how ANYONE would steal like Bernie Madoff if they had the chance. If I were Bosky or Milken or Levin, I would steal just as much right?
WRONG!
I'm not a fucking thief. There is a sick cultural aspect to the Jewish culture that causes them to TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE.
This happens over and over and over and over again.
Goldman Sachs worked against our efforts in Iraq to stabilize oil. How many jewish banker kids enlisted in the army?
socratic1968 2 years ago
The man who invented the Ponzi scheme was of Italian extraction. Would we hear you complaining if Madoff had been Christian? I doubt it. What about the many Jewish philanthropists like Bloomberg? Doesn't their culture cause them to GIVE GIVE GIVE GIVE? The point is, the paradigm of Jew=thief that's stuck in your head is very one-sided & shows paranoia more than logic.
What about Dick Cheney, Halliburton and their connection to Iraq?
How many Christian banker kids enlisted in the army?
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socratic1968 2 years ago
Bullshit u were talking about Greenberg! U are repeating urself like a broken record! Milken & Boesky were indicted for insider trading; (so was Joe Kennedy.) Fuld was not bailed out, Lehman collapsed.
In ur tiny, squeezed, hopelessly skewed world-view, there is always going to be the spectre of some JEW lurking around the corner trying to hurt you. U have consistently proven that no amount of rational argument is going to enlighten u because u r stubbornly motivated by hate/fear ¶noia.
petrina1022 2 years ago
S you deny that there is a disproportionate number of Jews in the financial industry?
Serisouly?
Why are Jews beyond reproach?
Are you now going to defend Bernie Madoff?
Michael Milken's greed?
Ivan Bosky's greed?
How do you explain Goldman Sach's greed? IT IS A JEWISH INSTITUTION!
Didn't you know this?
socratic1968 2 years ago
Why am I negated for questioning whether someone who equates Jews with Being bankers as being anti-semtic?
Seeker64 2 years ago
A disproportionate number of Jews were involved in shaping US policy which led to the destruction of the world's economy in 2008.
If you say this the semite tribalist lunatics will call you an antisemite.
socratic1968 2 years ago
True. To make a statement that is factual only can be taken the wrong way. But to take a fact and insinuate a conclusion other than what the fact states is also wrong.
Stalin and Hitler both have Mustaches, I find something very sinister about that don't you. The Amish don't like mustaches because only men of war have them. I think they are on to something.
You might be on to something about the Jews and the world bank collapse also. :P
Seeker64 2 years ago
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socratic1968 2 years ago
great martin amis!
fredperryblue 2 years ago
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What is the French phrase used at 2:52?
ivanmikhailov 2 years ago
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ivanmikhailov 2 years ago
Religion does poison everything.
powellallan 2 years ago
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Marty's path to becoming a philo-semite seems terribly contingent. What if his first girlfriend had emasculated him or his Jewish wife divorced him, took him for everything he's got, ran off with the Hitch and denied him custody of the daughters?
Would he then be less enamoured of Saul Bellows novels?
Or what if each of these sexual and social partners had been arab? Would he now be an enthusiast for the Califate?
Really poor stuff from someone who dabbles in philosophy. He's losing it.
patrickm433 2 years ago
good point
natmanprime 2 years ago
help me obi wan kenobi, you're my only hope
patrickm433 2 years ago
I accept the conceit of the role (nothing wrong with a little "obi wan kenobi" complex): People on this website tend to accept arguments by pathos rather than by logos.
Therefore you should guide them to logos through pathos, if you want more thumbs up.
howzat?
natmanprime 2 years ago
the Force of logos is death to the weak-minded
there should put their thumbs up their bums
patrickm433 2 years ago
lol
natmanprime 2 years ago
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LOL, you've proved that the only comments worth reading have red negative sixes or better.
"...enthusiast for the Caliphate?" haaha
I agree that it seems that people will join whatever group helps in their primal reproductive desires. Their intellect justifies this as a secondary intelligence.
So, those who choose to tell me they are "Jewish" or "Christian" or whatever, tells me they are willing to step all over you for their social ascension.
socratic1968 2 years ago
In your case, being married to a camel does have its advantages....
petrina1022 2 years ago
Being of Jewish lineage, I can back it up. We are cheap, we are horrible tippers and we absolutely hate to make life easy on car owners or those looking for affordable housing.
On the other hand, we also cured polio, invented color television and William Shatner, our most gifted representative, fought and defeated the Gorn on Cestus III.
There are some shitty things about every culture, but don't throw everyone out with the trash because of one particular defect.
meiitbe 2 years ago
My first girlfriend was jewish and her father was the most generous man I have ever met.
Freshhhhh1982 2 years ago 2
Being collectivist is not cool basically. I wish all 'groups' of people would stop seeing themselves as labels and start seeing themselves simply as people. It seems like we have a long way to go still.
323157 2 years ago 5
The thing is humans are tribal.
Freshhhhh1982 2 years ago 2
That is an excellent point. We tend towards tribalism.
I don't want to hear about your "Jewish" copper age tribe.
I can't believe that Hitchens can live with these contradictions. On one hand he attacks the old testament, pointing out that its texts are completely immoral, and on the other hand he is here endorsing people who value the old testament.
Don't tell me you're Jewish, you might as well just say "I'm Stupid but I hope i can make some money by networking."
socratic1968 2 years ago
Why so antisemitic. What have Jews ever done to you ?
Freshhhhh1982 2 years ago
My girlfriend is converting to Judaism, the Rabbi she studies under is an extremely generous man, even to a fundamentalist atheist like me.
bbbbbbblob 2 years ago
" we also cured polio, invented color television..."
Highly arguable.
The greatest minds ever have been NOT jewish.
Darwin, Heisenberg, Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell, James Joyce, Issac Newton, Galileo, etc, etc. etc.
I'm sick to bloody death of Jews. When you pray to your pitiless deity are are endorsing the murder of how many people?
Also, why don't you take credit for Trotsky's (Bronstein was his jewish name) murder of how many christians in the Ukraine?
socratic1968 2 years ago
I never said the greatest minds WERE Jewish, you bigoted dolt. If you had a shred of intellect and a sense of humor - you would have understood the comment I was making.
Your ensuing rant was also ridiculous and pathetic. You assumed I was a practicing Jew and I am not - I'm very secular.
And Trotsky? Maybe he felt the same way about all of you Christians - "sick to bloody death" of your nonsense, bogus humility and pretentious ranting.
Sterilize yourself immediately.
meiitbe 2 years ago 4
Sorry to disappoint. I am most definitely NOT a Christian.
In fact, I idolize Hitchens. My beef with him is that he cozies up the the east coast jewish upper class.
Did you watch this interview? Its sickening. How can he support this culture of circumcision, passover murder celebrations, and racist zionism?
I may be dead wrong, but, as others have pointed out, he comes off as a propagandist for the the Jewish culture. How is this not a contradiction?
socratic1968 2 years ago
@socratic1968 Because if he doesn't he won't be selling his books anymore.
xxdiogenescynicxx 1 year ago
Where are his criticisms of Goldman Sachs? Madoff? Bosky? Milken? Fuld? Greenspan? Summers? and all of the other jewish bankers who have destroyed the world economy for their greed.
I don't think Hitch would hold back oif mormons were the heads of these banks.
What a hypocrite.
socratic1968 2 years ago
And how many of them are actual practicing jews? The jews have a long and proud history as philosophers, scholars, scientists, and artists. There are also a fair share of scum bags in the bunch. Propagandist for jewish culture? Hitchens has bashed hanukhah both in print and in speech, condemns the Israelis on a regular basis, and in his books, essays, speeches, and debates condemns circumcision. Apparently you haven't read or heard much from Hitchens, so you might very well be "dead wrong".
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
So what is he doing here giving this interview? Why does he want Jews to be proud of Marx? Or, specifically Freud? - who told us that women's psychological problems are caused by "Penis envy"?
Passover is the core celebration of Jews. They celebrate the murder of babies. What value is the jewish fraternity if not simply a self serving business arrangement?
socratic1968 2 years ago
Because it's a culture which he feels is important. He isn't supporting judaism, just the jews themselves. Why not be proud of Marx, he was a great thinker of his day even if his theories on economics turned out rather badly, Voltaire thought that at high speeds people would fall apart, doesn't make him an idiot. So you take one thing that Freud said and ignore all the work he did which benefitted psychiatry? Passover celebrating the murder of babies wtf? The same could be said of any fraternity
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
Passover is the celebration that other people's babies were murdered instead of Jewish babies. Its as simple as that.
I agree that Freud has some good things to say.
But what gives with the tribalism? How can a culture that values taking land, money, etc from Gentiles with impunity be values because of a few scientist?
The Israeli IQ is LOWER than that of most European countries. I'm sick to death of Jews claiming they have some sort divine right to steal your savings at Goldman Sachs.
socratic1968 2 years ago
Say what? It's celebrating the escape from egypt (which according to many archaeologists never took place). It isn't the deaths of children which is what is being celebrated. It certainly is "simple" though not in the way you mean. When did jewish culture demand stealing land? You're thinking of their religion (just ask any Israeli settlers about what their faith is). When did "Jews" claim they had a right to steal your money?
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
Continued. IQ tests aren't a terribly reliable standard of measurement. I'm originally from Munich (been in america over a decade) germans have one of the highest average IQs of any people, but i don't run around asserting we're smarter than everyone else. By the way what is a "jewish company" anyway? As for Hitchens' "silence" i haven't seen him write or debate upon much of anything regarding high finance, jewish or otherwise.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
"When did jewish culture demand stealing land?"
Ever heard of the promised land? It was the land of Canan and it was already occupied.
That is why Moses and his predecessor Joshua fought to exterminate men, women, and children. It was genocide, in order to steal land that belonged to others.
socratic1968 2 years ago
Yes and that was done by a fictitious religious figure (there isn't any evidence other than hearsay that Moses existed). The fact that it was fictitious makes piffle of your claim, and even those who support those actions do so out of religious fervor, not cultural identity.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
So please enlighten me to what being "Jew" really means, if they recognize that it is all "fictitious".
socratic1968 2 years ago
Lol i wasn't speaking for the religion, i was speaking for the ethnicity. It comes with it's own ethnic identity which is of great cultural relevance. It isn't any different than being Irish or Punjabi.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
So if Passover doesn't matter to them then what are the characteristics that make up the "ethnic identity" of Jews?
Passover IS core to the ethnicity because is demonstrative God's preference for Jews over others. Hence, the idea that only the Jews know God. Judism is an ethnic religion, like Hinduism. Totally different than the world religions, like Christianity and Buddhism.
Jewish tribalism is destructive, like look how the banking industry has destroyed the world's economy.
socratic1968 2 years ago
No it isn't core to their ethnicity, it's core to the religion. You even say it yourself later in your comment, thus contradicting yourself. God in all probability doesn't exist, also keep in mind that jews probably have a higher percentage of atheists than any other ethnicity. You mean greed is destructive, the fact that many of them have "stein" or "berg" at the end of their name is irrelevant.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
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WTF? Dude, there IS a Jewish tribalist movmenet. IT HAS DESTROYED THE WORLD ECONOMY!
Would Hitchens be so silent if these greedy fucks were all MORMON?@!
Pull your fucking head out of your ass. There is a disproportionate number of Jews who have fucked the public.
More than any other group. So, Einstein, is it because of their "ethnicity" or their "religion" that they take take take?
socratic1968 2 years ago
Again you're missing the boat, "mormon" is not an ethnicity. And what leads you to belief that being "jewish" is the reason that these companies are responsible? It's racist nonsense. Take take take? If you had say russians or chinese people running these companies what would make you think the outcome would be any different? Any way you slice it we return to your comical prejudice. Amazing how you take a cultural discussion and start gibbering about high finance.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
Once again you fail. You fail to give one single reason as to why Mormonism is not an ethnicity but Judism is.
You fail to answer a simple question. WHY IS THERE A DISPROPORTIONATE NUMBER OF JEWS RUNNING THE COMPANIES THAT STEAL FROM THE PUBLIC?
Madoff
Fuld of Lehman
Bosky
Milken
Levin
By your reasoning, Jews should only represent less than 2% of these thieves since that is the overall concentration in the general population.
So, answer the question! Why so many thieves on the street?
socratic1968 2 years ago
I didn't think i would have to explain why mormonism isn't an ethnicity, i assumed you were an otherwise intelligent adult. Judaism isn't an ethnicity it's a religion, practiced primarily by Jews. Your answer is that Jewish people have been affiliated with the banking industry for hundreds and hundreds of years. There's also a disproportionate number of Jewish Nobel Prize winners, what's your point? You keep repeating this as though it means something.
JACKtheRIPP3R189 2 years ago
You contradict yourself with such ease its scary. You just wrote regarding judism " It comes with it's own ethnic identity which is of great cultural relevance" Then you claim it has not ethic identity? WTF?
BTW Jewish Nobel Prize Winners is a complete lie when compared to other caucasions. Blue eyed people have so diluted Jews that they are basically germanic. So your point is racist as you obviously are and completely mute.
Israelis have a lower IQ than European nations.
socratic1968 2 years ago
Einstein was a Jew
Seeker64 2 years ago
Socratic1968
From your comments I would think that you have read "Mein Kampf" and agree with it?
Seeker64 2 years ago
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Instead of meeting me on the battlefield of ideas you insult me.
Hitch is a social critic. What use to humanity is his alleged identity with granny's 1/128th Jewishness?
He is a caucasion. If he is seriously interested in matrilineal l descent, why doesn't he get his mitochondrial DNA checked?
I suspect he will suffer disillusion when he discovers that he is "Haplogroup H"
THE MOST COMMON MITOCHONDRIA OF EUROPEANS
FYI, you get your mitochondria from your mother. $100 from natgeo.
socratic1968 2 years ago
No insult. Just an obvious comparison.
Your seemingly irrational fear of all things Jewish looks very similar to What Hitler Claimed against the Jews.
Except of course the "fact" that they killed Jesus.
To be Jewish, by Jewish Law, from birth your Mother has to be Jewish. Or you can become Jewish through ceremony, or so I am told by an Old Jewish Man my Father Knew.
Seeker64 2 years ago
But is a person of the culture of being jewish or Hebrew if they do not participate or believe in the precepts of passover? Even if their Mother was Jewish?
Einstein was not a believer in a Personal God or the whole trappings of the Religion. Neither was Issac Assimov. Are they part of the culture or Ethnicity.
Still I digress. What does the Banking catastrophe have to do with being Jewish. Or are you still worried about the Council of 300? And the Rothschilds?
Seeker64 2 years ago
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"What does the Banking catastrophe have to do with being Jewish?"
You've got to be kidding I hope.
There IS a cultural element to the epicenter of this crisis and there IS a Jewish component.
As Joseph Campbell said sarcastically "Nobody knows God but the Jews"
This is an ethic religion, a religion whose deity lead them to a promised land that was already occupied. The "chosen people" were required by their hunting/herding male deity to murder everyone because it was THEIR land.
socratic1968 2 years ago
As this being an ethnic religion, all religions are at their root ethnic. The first Christians were all Jews.
But somehow you are equating the state of being Jewish itself being evil. And somehow that means that because their is a disproportionate (?) number of Jews in banking that banking is evil?
As for Jews in Banking, if you study history and what happens to a people that are because they are Jewish are denied mundane livelihood, trade, farming, etc. the only option open was banking.
Seeker64 2 years ago
Part of this is because Banking as a profession was seen by the Christian as being evil. But the funny thing is they had no problem going to the banker.
Seeker64 2 years ago 5
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seeker-
ever heard of the term "Usury"?
In the old testament, it is OK to charge the "gentiles" interest, but not ok to charge your fellow jew.
Same thing with slavery. OK to own a slave for life so long as he/she is a gentile. NOT ok if he/she is Jewish. Can't you see that this affects the Jewish culture?
Any amount over 10% in my opinion is USERY.
So we have a financial meltdown and Muslims are saying "TOLD YOU SO" christians..."what just happened?"
and you say...."Shalom"
socratic1968 2 years ago
You do I hope understand I am not Jewish nor do I support Israel, nor am I a Christian, nor a Muslim or what ever.
But I am not to fond of unfounded conspiracy theories.
However I have always suspected that the predominance of Arabic or middle eastern types in the ownership of Party Stores is a Muslim plot to subvert America through our dependence on cigarettes and beer. Damn "Camel Jockeys" any ways.
For the jihad inclined out there, that is meant as satire towards Socratic1968.
Seeker64 2 years ago