Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
@tigersforchrist I never understood why Jesus? why Not Allah? why not Thor? why not Shiva? what makes Jesus So special? Because A Book Told you? If people just accept Jesus they go to heaven, all those peadophiles, rapist, murders I will kindly refuse that ticket. That is no place i would to spend an eternity (If i could ) where the only merit to get in is believe in Jesus.
You have not proposed any contradictions, you have only proposed questions. If you are going to accuse the bible of something as serious as contradiction, then please be thorough in your examination i.e. proper, specific scripture referencing and historical/theological context... Where are the conflicting texts?
@Doodyjoe I wrote them in forms of questions but the scriptures say that god tempts people in one part and the other he does not. gods wrath both does and does not last for ever. But if you want me to go into detail you'll have to wait till i get my hands on a bible since I've misplaced mine.
@shadowVX Yes, I think that detail is kind of important when it comes to truth claims. With regards to the previous comment; the distinction between Christ and all others, is grace... Plain and simple. Regarding paedophiles, murderers, rapists, what you need to ASK YOURSELF is this; how do you stack up morally against an eternal, holy God? If the answer is not 'perfectly', then you are just as spiritually dead in your sins as any paedophile. Grab that bible and we'll talk some more.
At that time Jesus declared, "I thank you Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will." (Matthew11:25-26)
If it were not for Mr Hitchens self crippling pride and subsequent un-repentence, he may have had opportunity to speak the truth of Christ in sincere love however, it seems he was more satisfied in sounding clever... Humility is knowing your place.
@Doodyjoe Have you ever read it? (I mean all of it not just nit and pick certain verses) The Bible has so many contraindications how does it make sense to you? I have no problem in the belief in God, (which I don't believe) but to think that judeo christian (Jesus) Is the right One. Why not Allah? or Thor or Zeus even the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
@shadowVX With such a conclusive assessment, I can only assume that you yourself have read the entire bible... Would this be the case? If so, then what are the contradictions you have found, and if not, then isn't your judgement a little bogus?
@Doodyjoe Yes I have A few examples does Gods Wrath last forever? Yes and NO (Micah and Jermaiah) God Tempts people? yes and no. The Consequence of seeing Gods Face is Death Exedus 33:20 but Abarham moses have. Yet no man has seen or can see God 1 Timothy. Those are a few There are so many more!
@shadowVX have you got anything better to do than argue with another meat eating asshole christian that believes that xtianity is monotheistic world religion. Paulianity is plagiarized dogshit. IT is not a world religion but rather a worldly religion and its nice followers are sentimental darwinists. CHRISTIANITY IS SATANISM FOR DUMMIES. Most popes were actually practicing satanists. Not merely corrupt pedophiles but organized diabolical meat eating sons of bitches.
@augustmaquet Yeah, i do I'm currently writing a research paper, but why not in my leisure time have a friendly debate about someones religion. What does Paulianity have to do with any of this? I agree with you Christianity in practice is corrupt but to call them satanism is an insult to Lucifer what did he do to be cast as evil? If you believe in this fairy tale he gave humans the ability of free thinking I never understood how that was evil.
@maccas1329 why would anybody listen to a chain smoking drunk such as this guy. and when you think of the human emotion atheism does not take that into account . and number two laws were mad from religion not because people just thought it was right. living life such as that people would have poor moral codes and we would be even more divided then now. get some books on human nature and read about those same philosopher's he speaks of they have books on morals so go read them.
The Romans were fanatical record keepers,and while there is a record of Herod (d 7 BC) and of Pontius Pilot (mentioned in Tacitus) there is absolutely no record of Jesus, or of his family, or of the census, or of the murder of the innocent. Odd that.
@sionnyn Nothing odd about it Jesus did not write a single word in the bible all your exposing is the stupidity of those who put the story together I ask this do you have a problem with peace and love. Jesus never said anything about hell and it was invented to keep people in line you viewpoint is as stupid as saying the Iraq war never happened because there were no weapons of mass destruction
@sionnyn your contradictions are funny. your assumption is that the romans were fanatical record keepers, so if there was a census, jesus would've been recorded. however, you reject the census, so the matter of his or his family having been recorded is irrelevant. LULZ.
@sionnyn Also you would think Pontius Pilot (the man who ordered the execution of Jesus before a full tribunal) Would have recorded his name, Jesus is the most elusive mystery, Ive ever researched!
Theologians know so much about a man who barely has any record of existence. I'm sorry but if Jesus was so amazing how come no history of him exists except the bible? ponderer that
I very small point, but the time of Jesus would have been well into the iron age and not the bronze age. The Roman republic didn't start until after then iron age and that was over 300 years before.
just follow me and peace, Ridiculous and immoral....
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You know someone has no argument when McCarthyism is brought up to score a point when it has absolutely nothing to do with anything. I don't know why, but it's done all the time. To construct some sort of argument that compares Hitchens, a leftist, and McCarthy, a Republican nut, is simply not intelligent as an argument. To state that he would have led the US astray in fear is just a silly thing to say or think. The name Neville Chamberlain, by the way, is often used in the sophomoric same way.
@GeNoTheEndoSmokr I listened to Hitchens for years and read his articles. When he didn't agree with someone he didn't debate he would deride. He was a very intelligent person but showed practically no respect for people he disagreed with. He always brought a quick mind and a lightning wit to the table.
@jimster46 Now see thats giving your opinion, not "he was a bulldozer ass". And yes i would agree that he did hate those who disagreed with him but at least he had many reasons to at least dislike them. He pointed out what most didn't see about the person.
Hitchens practiced the very thing he condemns Jesus for-- no care for the morrow. Hitchens read the Surgeon General's Warning so many times and never took it to heart. Now he's dead of a cancer that could have been prevented. How terribly illogical and pointless.
@matt605 if you ever read his books or knew anything he stood for he openly spoke of his party's his travels his life and drinking. He lived for the day and cared more about staying true to his readers rather then being a political tool and if it took another bottle or an all night smoking /drinking session while he piled through research and expanded his mind he stated it was all worth it.
@TheKnives777 No, I've never read any of his books or his writing. Seems to be a waste of time to read something written by someone who didn't even understand the Surgeon General's Warning on a pack of cigarettes. Most people consider what he called mind expansion to be alcoholism, and most of his appearances in public show his amazing ability to rage on like a borish drunk. How can anyone confuse that for smarts?
@matt605 I never preceded him as boorish while reading his works all though I can understand how he looks on TV is rather unsettling if you want to come across as poised and confident and I believe that hurt his image but what mattered to him was lives effected by reproach in politics and religion, highlighting hypocrisy. He did the work for people that couldn't but never worked on his self and covered it by hiding behind a bottle, not a dumb man just cowardly like most alcoholics
@TheKnives777 Sadly, the hypocrisy seemed to be his own. His conduct was that of a hate-mongering alcoholic, maybe somewhere in the realm of Joseph P. McCarthy, without the impact. McCarthy's Red Scare impacted the whole United States and led it astray in fear. Hitchens would have done that too if given a chance, but people caught on to his creed of hatred and assured he was identified for the hate-monger that he was. Rest In Urn, Hitch.
Hitchens was 100% wrong on all of his assertions and he knew it all along. Like Darwin, Dawkins, LaVey and Crowley he found a gimmick to make a name for himself and a path to a decent living by catering to the gullible fools that are sprinkled throughout the human population. People with common sense knew all along he was a scam but the fools that took him serious still believe his hype to this day. The poor mindless losers are still duped. It's so sad.
Im against Hitchens teaching, but im not happy for his death. Anyone who gloats for the death of another person is wrong. He has a family and im sure they miss him very much. R.I.P Mr.Hitchens, I enjoyed listening to your recordings posted by your followers and debating on them.
Boy, I miss Christopher Hitchins. Lots of people, including myself, have the same opinions (although we had a lot of disagreements politically, e.g., his support for occupying Iraq); but very few people can speak so eloquently.
If Christopher says anything here that sticks, and really nails truth, it's that such an elaborate myth, if it were meant to be proliferated to the entire world, held out as credible for 2000 yrs, it would have been more carefully fabricated.
Yet the very fact that there is no attempt to cover up or conceal means at the core there IS something. And there IS... the "hysterical women" at the tomb, like Saul of Tarsus, or Simon the Rock who were chosen not for their perfection, but their flaws.
@pjamesbda ...and you believe this because? You surely aren't pointing to your statement that because there was no cover-up I hope? Wow, you're persuaded easily!
@leandeanus - No, not persuaded. This isn't about being persuaded, and Hitchens knew logic only goes so far. This is about knowing. If you do, you do. If not, then too bad:
"It means know thy self. I wanna tell you a little secret, being the one is just like being in love. No one needs to tell you you are in love, you just know it, through and through."
@pjamesbda what you 'know' is the delusional teachings of bronze age middle east, we have out grown these feeble myths and can now live in a world where these stories do not apply. Can you tell me why you are not a muslim? do you deny that they also 'know' god? you cant both be right.. but you could easily both be wrong.
@azmanabdula - You know the saying..."if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."? That is the gist of what I'm saying. If you watched Zeitgeist the Movie, and you realize there IS a myth. And it has been repeated over and over thru history, even BEFORE the Jewish nation, if you can imagine that, then it becomes clear the reason it is sustained is because it is true...
@azmanabdula - Look. In my teens, I thought it was about surrender. In my 20s about defiance, and thru my 30s and 40s I had to work so hard there wasn't time for much else. Now, I'm 60 this year and finally, believing is both an act of defiance and surrender. I can't do it for you, or explain it equipped with a language of comparisons. It is beyond a relative description.
Isn't the nature of our existence astounding enough? (to believe)..was my quantum description.
@pjamesbda not at all.....i see the past generation blinded by what they were instructed to believe as a young one, this can change your perception forever...
why do you need me to believe?
why do you need to believe?
why does god need people to spread the word of his work? (that isnt all powerful)
@azmanabdula - I enjoyed the chat. No one HAS to believe. It isn't up to me. It's okay either way, but for me anyway, I choose to believe because I know I can also choose not to. I've tried both. I like this best. Cheers.
@azmanabdula "All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. ... Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you."
@azmanabdula - funny you'd point out the heart only pumps blood. Take the two operative words in that sentence...heart and blood. Consider what you "think" you know about both of them, and then tell me what "only" means.
As I said, your choice is yours. If you think there are numerous ones, then you miss this ultimate nature of believing or not believing. Then what?... this means there is no ultimate nature?
Also you should realize that as you judge me, you judge yourself...Dick Cheney.
@pjamesbda It appears we are on the ground of testable claims, excellent! In that case, please show me examples of a path (eg a footpath or sidewalk) which has a heart that pumps blood. Note that merely placing a heart on a footpath does not satisfy this request.
@GypsyLeah The poignant part of this, is we discuss the objective thing, when it can only have meaning in a subjective way. I love the stubborn non-believer, like Christopher, because he refuses to embrace the heart subjectively.
Watch death or love, or any of the 10,000 things that can be witnessed with objectivity and they all add up to nothing. A howling void until it becomes subjective, ..until it is your heart.
Or don't...it is your loss, not mine to live or die or love without it.
@azmanabdula - What is, finally our own corporeality? .....We are a loosely held together bundle of atoms with relatively as much space between each of those atoms as there is between the galaxies of our solar system. What ARE we? We don't even know!
So is it so amazing to recognize the transcendence of something (God?) that strings these together in such a way as to create our reality? Or is it any less precise to deny the sanctification of the isolated ego commonly held as human.
No Chris, there is archaeological evidence for the Exodus & most of the writings of scripture. What gets me is why Christopher Hitchens or any non believer in Gods existence should nearly always take the time to mock & use hate speech in reference to God? Then have the audacity to inform the audience of the crusades & other offences of Christianitys past. Hypocrites!
Jesus is not suing "make no plans for the future - he is saying take the power of NOW to consider everything..... today, tomorrow and yesterday can only be real in the power of NOW. It really is not that hard to understand. Once again Mr Hitchens is dominated by his huge ego (and I sure know what that is like - God forgive me). And he quotes Jesus like he understands him. Nothing could be further from the truth. But God bless Him. The grace of God bless us all - the educated and the ignorant. :)
I simply can not believe that Mr Christopher Hitchens (an incredibly bright brother of ours) can NOT grasp the simple message of Jesus - "give no care for the morrow". All Jesus is stating is that NOW is all we will ever have. There is NO Morrow. Only NOW. All the power that will ever be available is available NOW. We must live is the present moment - the eternal Now. To spend any time IN the morrow is fruitless and wasteful. Jesus was only saying that "the morrow" can only be conceived NOW.
@leet512 I will try to make it simple. Say a person wears some clothing to a wedding and discovers that someone else is wearing the same thing. If that spoils the ability for either to enjoy the wedding they are entrapped by only considering the shame they feels for not wearing clothing others are not. What jesus would say is celebrate the wedding - for that is happening now. There is nothing to be gained and much to be lost by "spending time in the morrow".
@alexleitch37 WE also have similar social expectation that people will not bring up fights and divisions at ANY family celebration. At a child's birthday people should not begin to fight with each other about ANYTHING at the expense of the child's celebration. Any one who has put effort into a party can understand how disastrous it is to have guests lose the party feel and begin to fight. Jesus is saying do not LIVE in the future but make plans for it in the power of the present.
@alexleitch37 In the case of the asteroid - if we were to spend time in the morrow (as in when the asteroid hits) then we may run around screaming and looking of cover or just lose all hope etc). The only powerful way that could lead to a best case outcome is to consider and plan for the future in the now. In the present for that is where GOD is. The now is eternal - the morrow is fleeting and powerless. "TODAY is the day of salvation". GRACE is NOW. LOVE is NOW not "in the morrow". Forgive NOW.
@alexleitch37 When Jesus says "leave your children and other family members behind" - in reference to "the morow" ALL Jesus is saying is do not let you self be entrapped by those consumed by anything but the power of NOW.He is NOT saying "Ah to hell with everyone else" but "we will consider and empower everyone around us by not "spending time in the morrow". If you are going to forgive someone do not say to your self I will do it tomorrow. DO IT NOW. Acceptance is in the now - not in the morrow
@alexleitch37 In your example of the asteroid - there would be nothing to be gained by "spending time in the Morrow" by hanging our heads and crying all the time saying "oh if only we could go back to yesterday when we did not even know about the asteroid". Or if we pretended that the asteroid had come already and missed us and so we lived without making plans for the future. That delusion and lack of action would be described by Jesus as "spending time in the morrow' for time is power in NOW.
@alexleitch37 ya thats what I was wondering... whether NASA and other agencies making contingency plans for 2029/2036 qualified as spending time in the morrow... in a sort of useless sense... but to me they seem quite useful because what if for example they built a laser array to destroy or deflect the asteroid... that would be time spent worrying about the future... but with a big bountiful payoff when the disaster is averted by destroying the threat :)
@alexleitch37 so I think if I'm reading you correctly, Jesus's admonition isn't so much against making contigency plans for the future... but more against useless despair and hand wringing... is that correct?
because if that is the case it does sound like Hitchens may have misread it as well.. because he brings up: "no investment, no thrift, no care for your children, not worry about construction, etc"... but in fact construction with the future in mind does often pay off
@alexleitch37 for example coastal cities that constructed sea walls... with fear of tsunamis in the morrow... often end up surviving when a tsunami does come... and the cities that do not get flooded
so it sounds like Jesus's doctrine could perhaps be rephrased to make it more clear that he is not opposed to making plans to prevent future calamities... but more that he is opposed to being paralyzed by despair or terror about the future in a sort of useless sense?
@alexleitch37 because "take no thought for the morrow" does sound like a phrase that could be very easily misinterpreted :)
if in fact it is not an admonition against making plans to prevent future calamities...
could a rewrite be: "take no thought for the future if you are not doing anything useful to meet that future"?
I think because the original saying is so broad it makes it sound as if Jesus was encouraging his followers to be heedless... probably what Hitchens found objectionable
@leet512 You have a fine mind mate. Good for you. Folk who try to question Jesus are ever quoting him in King James English because it mocks Jesus by making him sound old fashioned and out of date. When Jesus spoke to the people he used the average local language so people cold clearly understand him. Many scriptures that have modern language usage are more easily understood by folk today. Jesus is ALL FOR contingency and future and past contemplation - but never at the expense of the NOW.
@alexleitch37 AND one must do ones best to understand that Jesus was an eternal being who was incarnated into finite time. If you could see him and hear him - then and there - mate why would you spend any time "in the morrow". When we hold a baby in our hands we become overcome with the beauty and wonder that is a new person. WE do not waste time thinking of yesterday and tomorrow. The baby is NOW. Jesus was saying LIVE NOW. LOVE NOW. Everything we have we have in the now. The future and
@alexleitch37 the past can ONLY be conceived in the NOW. Jesus was saying I AM NOW. To be with Jesus was to be in the power of NOW. So often we spend all our energies and passions on what might be or what once was and it is a useless and powerless endeavour. As life is precious and time limited (in the FALL OF THE WORLD) we should consider the eternal NOT be consumed with then and there. WE only experience GOD as GOD is. NOW. EVER present. Jesus was and is NOW. he called us out into NOW.
@alexleitch37 "Jesus is ALL FOR contingency and future and past contemplation - but never at the expense of the NOW."
ya but would planning, drawing blueprints, and ultimately building laser arrays to destroy a future deadly asteroid amount to a ruining of the 'NOW'?
in most of your replies it sounds like it would not ruin the 'NOW'... and that is re-assuring because if Jesus is in favour of contingency plans in certain extreme and predictable circumstances I think he is a wise fellow :)
@leet512 If you never get to enjoy the power of the NOW because you are consumed with everything else then the plans are fruitless. But if you use the power of NOW to plan for the future then YES planning, drawing etc is powerful . We make plans to save us in the future because life is worth saving, BUT life is NOW. The life we have NOW is what we are trying to plan for in the future. If we live the other way around it drives us crazy and is fruitless. That is what Jesus is saying.
@alexleitch37 AND Jesus is saying to us all "come to me and be in the now". Experience the power of eternity. Fee your selves from this temporary world of then and there and come and be forever NOW. Eternity can and should be experienced now for it is INFINITE. The life so many of us live is destroyed by consumption of thoughts of future and past. We long for the future and past but this is useless as we live in there NOW. NOW is as powerful as you let NOW be. We can not live in the past/future.
@alexleitch37 When He talks of "leaving behind children and family" he is simply saying you must be moved and live in the NOW. So even if your closest family members are all living for past and future - you must not spend dime judging them but free yourself of this Past/Future thinking for their sake and yours. When we accept people for where they are at we are accepting them in the NOW. That is powerful. But if we become like them we in fruitlessness. It is the healthy who help the sick.
@alexleitch37 hehe ya that makes sense... is good advice... some have sick families... although it is another phrase prone to misinterpretation because it sounds at first like it is advocating leaving them behind in physical distance/proximity... not in mental habits... but it is kinda kewl that many of these phrases can be misinterpreted because that leaves a bit of a puzzle to be solved :)
@leet512 I think he meant BOTH - mental and physical. He does not advocate leaving people behind defenceless and unable to support themselves. But just as a man may leave his family for years in seeking employment, Jesus is saying if you follow me, I am being in the eternal, in the NOW. If some had decided to stay with their families and not follow Jesus they would only be being held back. Jesus is wireless internet and the world is a poorly playing video machine, Jesus fruit - the world sugar.
@alexleitch37 There is much I could explain to you about Jesus words but the letter limitation is ........ well....... limiting. Perhaps you may allow me a fuller, more comprehensive response via private mail. I will leave that up to you....... thank you for the kindness and intelligence in your responses. Not everyone on youtube has your great character mate. cheers alex
@gendouche20 You sir and all your ilk are a pile of filibustering, felatio filled, phallically obsessed, fornication freaks, who are filled with fecal filaments frothing with the remains of your now finely fragmentalized mental faculties
Evolution has stages and in between intermediate forms.Never has an intermediate form been discovered.In evolution theory, it took millions of years for one species to evolve into another. That means their should be thousand if not millions of intermediate forms to prove something evolved.The number of fossils belonging to these, should be in the trillions.And the earth should be full of these forms. However, decades of excavation has yet to prove these forms exist.
@Ratacon2004 Hello! :) If you google 'transitional species of evolution' you might find plenty of sites with examples and explanations. It's also that there should be *few* of those forms. As far as I understand it, a certain population's considered a species when it can't create fertile offspring with a member of any other population, so it's like a 'click' moment- one generation members can crossbreed, and the next they can't. The rest of change is gradual, like variation within species.
@Ratacon2004 Also, Platypi (not sure about the plural of 'platypus') are an example of a transitional form; it's a mammal able of laying eggs, with a beak. You've also got marsupials, which differ from other mammals, which give birth earlier, but keep babies in pouches (for greater mobility). The whole thing is geography-specific, in accordance to the tectonic plates that split at the time, to form Australia. This is a sign that mammals have definitely changed, for example.
@Ratacon2004 Every single species (extinct and existent) is a transitional form, and yes, they've been found. The problem is that for various circumstances, not every single living being that ever lived on this planet gets to become a fossil, but that doesn't mean evolution doesn't take place. What matters is the patterns found give us a lead to demonstrate an evolutionary process.
@Ratacon2004 You can compare it to a 1000 piece puzzle, if you will. When you have managed to arrange half of those pieces, you can pretty much have an image of the final picture. This is how evolution has been demonstrated. We will most likely never find every single piece of the puzzle, but we've got enough information to understand and safely conclude this is how the various species developed.
@Ratacon2004 Well that's an outright lie. There are intermediary forms that human beings have seen within human history. The evolution of the wolf, into various breeds of domesticated dog that we see today. The evolution of wild bananas into the bananas that we have today. There's PLENTY of examples. Fossil records include the Ambulocetus, the Tiktaalik, various hominids considered to be proto-humans.
@Ratacon2004 We've found quite a lot considering not every transitional form appears in the fossil record because the fossil record is nowhere near complete. Organisms are only rarely preserved as fossils in the best of circumstances and only a fraction of such fossils have ever been discovered.
Seems like Hitchens ain't given no thought to the most reasonable explanation -- that Jesus was an enlightened man, and there was some folks so impressed they followed him around and made up remarkable stories about him because they couldn't figure out any other way to describe his effect on them.
@johnthreesixteen316 Dude really? The man is dead, you're just just making his points more accurate in that there is always someone out there who is a person of a "God" figure who will continue to bash with the proof against their beliefs winking them in the face.
"Take no thought for the morrow" is not an evil teaching but a wise one. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't plan for tomorrow or next year. It means that we shouldn't upset ourselves with worries about the future....that we should instead focus on the here and now. This teaching is central to many (maybe all) great philosophies....like, for instance, (Zen)Buddhism and Stoicism.
Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
Was sodomite Christ' Hitchens' hollow death an early Christmas gift in retribution for the total-war that he endorsed against the mothers & children of the Arab sphere?
@EasingDifficulties And you write such things because you are a delusional bigot. And I say this in the nicest way possible: get the fuck out of here, you are not welcomed here by the higher intellectuals such as @PhantomGanon1 and @cvanuen
The original purpose of the polar bears: Polar bears are capable of carrying platters, harvesting carrots & stacking bricks. The original polar bears, along with the original eskimos, lived a manor house/servant or upstairs/downstairs existence. New archaeological evidence I just dug up proves that polar bears lived as migrant laborers in service to eskimos.
A person whose diet is deficient in nitrilosidic foods (those foods rich in Amygdalin, the substance whose molecularity is 1 part: the natural analgesic benzaldehyde, 1 part: hydrogen cyanide, 2 parts: glucose) is incapable of stopping the over-production of healing cells (cells known as tumorous, trophoblastic, malignant, pre-embyonic, anaplastic, metastatic, neoplastic, neoplastigenic, placental) ergo this person has cancer.
Hitch is gone now, and now arises his opposition's ultimate opportunity to denounce, dare I say destroy his passion in life and at the same time annihilate those that consider and in most cases agree with his arguments. GET YOUR GOD TO RESURRECT Christopher and I will give serious consideration to your position.
@kramdoog : Your boyfriend Hitchens wasn't afraid of berthing shiploads of sailors in his southern port either... Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
The Testaments and religious art of Jews, Christians and Muslims show you Freemason symbols, telling you they wrote the bibles. The Freemason symbols show that the solar sun is worshipped as a messiah that is called by the name Jesus and that the Lord is really the solar sun. Biblical metaphors promise nations that Freemasons will work for evil bankers calling themselves Lucifer. They plan to rob nations and massacre citizens (Revelations). WW2 was the plan of global Zionists to get rich quick.
@MostMagnificentOne --The Zionist Jews crashed the flying saucer at Roswell, killed both Kennedy brothers, framed Pete Rose, hypnotized all american teenage girls to go see "Titanic" 20 times each, created Jacob just so he could come between poor Edward and Bella, and then created the greatest evil the world has ever known........JUSTIN BIEBER!!! Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :-)
The pattern of behavior among Zionist Jews is seen in Iraq where Zionist Jews destroyed Saddam Hussain and blamed him for killings that were never proven to have been his doing. They overthrew him. They tried him in a kangaroo court. They had another nation destroy Iraq for the Zionist Jews. Zionist Jews more than likely tookover the Iraqi banking system after murdering Saddam Hussain. Zionist Jews now threaten to pay the USA for helping to "save Jews again" by inciting Arabs to attack the USA.
You can see that Zionist Jews are doing the same thing in the USA today. The Zionist Jews did 9/11 from their positions in goverment, military and banking. Used the mass media that the Zionist Jews control to blame Arabs over the airwaves for 9/11. Then Zionists Jews rewrote USA laws threatening and terrorizing USA citizens with threats over the Zionist Jew-controlled mass media an airwaves. Zionist Jews have destroyed jobs of non-Jews, robbed non-Jews of houses and savings. Pattern behavior.
Examining the biblical story of the Exodus closer you see that the Jews looted Egypt, left, wandered, then invaded and conquered an Arab land, Caanan. Jews repeated this in WW2 Germany, they invaded it, looted it, fled to the east, then Jews sent negroes into Germany to mate with the wives and daughters of Saxons while Jews took the safe city jobs of the Saxons and took over the German central banking system. Then Zionist Jews rewrote the laws of Germany threatening Saxons to stay silent.
At 6:08 Christoper begins to explain his chapter on the Exodus being a fabricated story. He says the Exodus, wandering, captivity and subsequent Jewish conquering of Caanan are all fabricated. The Exodus story provides followers a pattern of behavior for the Jews' future. Jews have been scattered around the world, advised by rabbis (rabbi means master) to enter other nations. The biblical story of Exodus is a blueprint for Jew behavior, to "wander" into nations, and take them over from within.
The bible is largely an allegory. It is not to be taken in a literal sense. Hitchens makes the same mistake as most other critics. I myself am a born again christian...and even I dont believe that Jesus Christ existed in a material sense.
ha ha he's in hell now
BorgKing001 1 day ago
@BorgKing001 the same Hell that was thought up by man hundreds of years later after ''the birth''
Impressivenamenshit 20 hours ago
@Impressivenamenshit the very same
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averunks 2 days ago
Only a REAL FOOL would claim there is no God! Man creates awesome skyscrapers, fake hearts, tunnels, vehicles etc.. If we are very imperfect then what more can God create THE UNIVERSE! You must accept Jesus Christ as your Savior to receive eternal rest in heaven! Simple! John 3:16 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him! Repent & accept Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ or HELL?!? Visit cbn. com
tigersforchrist 1 week ago
@tigersforchrist I never understood why Jesus? why Not Allah? why not Thor? why not Shiva? what makes Jesus So special? Because A Book Told you? If people just accept Jesus they go to heaven, all those peadophiles, rapist, murders I will kindly refuse that ticket. That is no place i would to spend an eternity (If i could ) where the only merit to get in is believe in Jesus.
shadowVX 1 week ago
You have not proposed any contradictions, you have only proposed questions. If you are going to accuse the bible of something as serious as contradiction, then please be thorough in your examination i.e. proper, specific scripture referencing and historical/theological context... Where are the conflicting texts?
Doodyjoe 1 week ago
@Doodyjoe I wrote them in forms of questions but the scriptures say that god tempts people in one part and the other he does not. gods wrath both does and does not last for ever. But if you want me to go into detail you'll have to wait till i get my hands on a bible since I've misplaced mine.
shadowVX 1 week ago
@shadowVX Yes, I think that detail is kind of important when it comes to truth claims. With regards to the previous comment; the distinction between Christ and all others, is grace... Plain and simple. Regarding paedophiles, murderers, rapists, what you need to ASK YOURSELF is this; how do you stack up morally against an eternal, holy God? If the answer is not 'perfectly', then you are just as spiritually dead in your sins as any paedophile. Grab that bible and we'll talk some more.
Doodyjoe 1 week ago
jesus just got owned
atheistsimplicity 1 week ago
At that time Jesus declared, "I thank you Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; yes, Father, for such was your gracious will." (Matthew11:25-26)
If it were not for Mr Hitchens self crippling pride and subsequent un-repentence, he may have had opportunity to speak the truth of Christ in sincere love however, it seems he was more satisfied in sounding clever... Humility is knowing your place.
Doodyjoe 1 week ago
@Doodyjoe Do you honestly believe that shit? (and i don't mean shit as offensive term, although you can take it that way if you want)
shadowVX 1 week ago
@shadowVX If I did not believe it, I would not have written it.
Doodyjoe 1 week ago
@Doodyjoe Have you ever read it? (I mean all of it not just nit and pick certain verses) The Bible has so many contraindications how does it make sense to you? I have no problem in the belief in God, (which I don't believe) but to think that judeo christian (Jesus) Is the right One. Why not Allah? or Thor or Zeus even the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
shadowVX 1 week ago
@shadowVX With such a conclusive assessment, I can only assume that you yourself have read the entire bible... Would this be the case? If so, then what are the contradictions you have found, and if not, then isn't your judgement a little bogus?
Doodyjoe 1 week ago
@Doodyjoe Yes I have A few examples does Gods Wrath last forever? Yes and NO (Micah and Jermaiah) God Tempts people? yes and no. The Consequence of seeing Gods Face is Death Exedus 33:20 but Abarham moses have. Yet no man has seen or can see God 1 Timothy. Those are a few There are so many more!
shadowVX 1 week ago
@shadowVX have you got anything better to do than argue with another meat eating asshole christian that believes that xtianity is monotheistic world religion. Paulianity is plagiarized dogshit. IT is not a world religion but rather a worldly religion and its nice followers are sentimental darwinists. CHRISTIANITY IS SATANISM FOR DUMMIES. Most popes were actually practicing satanists. Not merely corrupt pedophiles but organized diabolical meat eating sons of bitches.
augustmaquet 1 week ago
@augustmaquet Yeah, i do I'm currently writing a research paper, but why not in my leisure time have a friendly debate about someones religion. What does Paulianity have to do with any of this? I agree with you Christianity in practice is corrupt but to call them satanism is an insult to Lucifer what did he do to be cast as evil? If you believe in this fairy tale he gave humans the ability of free thinking I never understood how that was evil.
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without religion there would be chaos.
TheCountrycornbread 3 weeks ago
@TheCountrycornbread The world would be more advanced than your small mind can imagine if religion didn't exist.
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@maccas1329 why would anybody listen to a chain smoking drunk such as this guy. and when you think of the human emotion atheism does not take that into account . and number two laws were mad from religion not because people just thought it was right. living life such as that people would have poor moral codes and we would be even more divided then now. get some books on human nature and read about those same philosopher's he speaks of they have books on morals so go read them.
TheCountrycornbread 3 weeks ago
@TheCountrycornbread hahahaha tard
josephthemighty 3 weeks ago
@TheCountrycornbread so nothing would change?
ezwelchman 3 weeks ago
@TheCountrycornbread is this a fake comment ?
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@TheCountrycornbread as oppose to the chaos we are living right now with all the religions?
SrtaPeccavi 2 weeks ago
@TheCountrycornbread Yea that's why norway and sweeden is a 3rd world country,they are 75% or more atheist
MREXHALE 2 weeks ago
i can see that he used rabbi tovia singers material for this speach
SAMIRERRE 3 weeks ago
The Romans were fanatical record keepers,and while there is a record of Herod (d 7 BC) and of Pontius Pilot (mentioned in Tacitus) there is absolutely no record of Jesus, or of his family, or of the census, or of the murder of the innocent. Odd that.
sionnyn 3 weeks ago 22
@sionnyn Nothing odd about it Jesus did not write a single word in the bible all your exposing is the stupidity of those who put the story together I ask this do you have a problem with peace and love. Jesus never said anything about hell and it was invented to keep people in line you viewpoint is as stupid as saying the Iraq war never happened because there were no weapons of mass destruction
MultiShampain 2 weeks ago
@sionnyn your contradictions are funny. your assumption is that the romans were fanatical record keepers, so if there was a census, jesus would've been recorded. however, you reject the census, so the matter of his or his family having been recorded is irrelevant. LULZ.
dadogofdakrew 2 days ago
@sionnyn Also you would think Pontius Pilot (the man who ordered the execution of Jesus before a full tribunal) Would have recorded his name, Jesus is the most elusive mystery, Ive ever researched!
Theologians know so much about a man who barely has any record of existence. I'm sorry but if Jesus was so amazing how come no history of him exists except the bible? ponderer that
TheKnives777 2 days ago
I very small point, but the time of Jesus would have been well into the iron age and not the bronze age. The Roman republic didn't start until after then iron age and that was over 300 years before.
Loathomar 3 weeks ago
@Loathomar some nations were still in bronze. but ur still correct. :)
youngloenoe 3 weeks ago
guess who he bows the knee to now?.....yep, u guessed it!
JBJ6996777 4 weeks ago
just follow me and peace, Ridiculous and immoral....
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porterhouseful 1 month ago
@porterhouseful Are you just trying to blame the illuminati here or someone else?
youngloenoe 3 weeks ago
I miss Christopher! My pagan friends will enjoy "Religious Fanatic debates Atheist" on my channel. (Brace Yourself)
Sweence 1 month ago
You know someone has no argument when McCarthyism is brought up to score a point when it has absolutely nothing to do with anything. I don't know why, but it's done all the time. To construct some sort of argument that compares Hitchens, a leftist, and McCarthy, a Republican nut, is simply not intelligent as an argument. To state that he would have led the US astray in fear is just a silly thing to say or think. The name Neville Chamberlain, by the way, is often used in the sophomoric same way.
brisketslapper 1 month ago
Hitchens is a bulldozer.
hiimthedevil13 1 month ago
@hiimthedevil13 Hitchens was a bulldozing pompus A**
jimster46 1 month ago
@jimster46 and you are probably just an ignorant small minded pompous* Ass
GeNoTheEndoSmokr 4 weeks ago
@GeNoTheEndoSmokr Way to elevate the conversation to a new low.
jimster46 4 weeks ago
@jimster46 You are the one who added nothing to the conversation
GeNoTheEndoSmokr 4 weeks ago
@GeNoTheEndoSmokr I listened to Hitchens for years and read his articles. When he didn't agree with someone he didn't debate he would deride. He was a very intelligent person but showed practically no respect for people he disagreed with. He always brought a quick mind and a lightning wit to the table.
jimster46 4 weeks ago
@jimster46 Now see thats giving your opinion, not "he was a bulldozer ass". And yes i would agree that he did hate those who disagreed with him but at least he had many reasons to at least dislike them. He pointed out what most didn't see about the person.
GeNoTheEndoSmokr 4 weeks ago
@GeNoTheEndoSmokr One way or the other he made you at least think about your position no matter what it was and that made him good if not special.
jimster46 3 weeks ago
"You've got to believe it... because we've got some illiterate, hysterical girls who said they saw this", hahaha.
mattmossop 1 month ago
Hitchens practiced the very thing he condemns Jesus for-- no care for the morrow. Hitchens read the Surgeon General's Warning so many times and never took it to heart. Now he's dead of a cancer that could have been prevented. How terribly illogical and pointless.
matt605 1 month ago
@matt605 if you ever read his books or knew anything he stood for he openly spoke of his party's his travels his life and drinking. He lived for the day and cared more about staying true to his readers rather then being a political tool and if it took another bottle or an all night smoking /drinking session while he piled through research and expanded his mind he stated it was all worth it.
TheKnives777 1 month ago 6
@TheKnives777 No, I've never read any of his books or his writing. Seems to be a waste of time to read something written by someone who didn't even understand the Surgeon General's Warning on a pack of cigarettes. Most people consider what he called mind expansion to be alcoholism, and most of his appearances in public show his amazing ability to rage on like a borish drunk. How can anyone confuse that for smarts?
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TheKnives777 1 month ago
@matt605 I never preceded him as boorish while reading his works all though I can understand how he looks on TV is rather unsettling if you want to come across as poised and confident and I believe that hurt his image but what mattered to him was lives effected by reproach in politics and religion, highlighting hypocrisy. He did the work for people that couldn't but never worked on his self and covered it by hiding behind a bottle, not a dumb man just cowardly like most alcoholics
TheKnives777 1 month ago
@TheKnives777 Sadly, the hypocrisy seemed to be his own. His conduct was that of a hate-mongering alcoholic, maybe somewhere in the realm of Joseph P. McCarthy, without the impact. McCarthy's Red Scare impacted the whole United States and led it astray in fear. Hitchens would have done that too if given a chance, but people caught on to his creed of hatred and assured he was identified for the hate-monger that he was. Rest In Urn, Hitch.
matt605 1 month ago
@matt605 I don't see how that is relevant when you consider the truth in what he says.
Lie I always say, don't have to be author to know that the book you read was shit.
IronHarper 1 month ago
@TheKnives777 He was an overrated, self indulgent, drunk shitbag
bnsaints 2 weeks ago
@matt605 assuming you know exactly how he got the cancer. your claim is kinda...absolutely absurd and pointless.
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Hitchens was 100% wrong on all of his assertions and he knew it all along. Like Darwin, Dawkins, LaVey and Crowley he found a gimmick to make a name for himself and a path to a decent living by catering to the gullible fools that are sprinkled throughout the human population. People with common sense knew all along he was a scam but the fools that took him serious still believe his hype to this day. The poor mindless losers are still duped. It's so sad.
AtheistSpanker 1 month ago
Im against Hitchens teaching, but im not happy for his death. Anyone who gloats for the death of another person is wrong. He has a family and im sure they miss him very much. R.I.P Mr.Hitchens, I enjoyed listening to your recordings posted by your followers and debating on them.
Ratacon2004 1 month ago
You all know Hitchens is dying of cancer?
Ratacon2004 1 month ago
@Ratacon2004 Not anymore he's not. :(
badmovebaker 1 month ago
@Ratacon2004 hes dead.......where have you been?
azmanabdula 1 month ago
religion is prevalent because of the many "free minded" people being executed in the name of god in history past...
leaving only the feeble minded to live and prosper...
luckily we have ended that regime! (well almost)
azmanabdula 1 month ago
Hey Tim Tebow threw 316 yards against the Steelers so that disproves the Hitch's points
Minkki82 1 month ago
@Minkki82 Your logic is solid. I am now a believer.
orangpend8 1 month ago
Boy, I miss Christopher Hitchins. Lots of people, including myself, have the same opinions (although we had a lot of disagreements politically, e.g., his support for occupying Iraq); but very few people can speak so eloquently.
Cabochon1360 1 month ago
If Christopher says anything here that sticks, and really nails truth, it's that such an elaborate myth, if it were meant to be proliferated to the entire world, held out as credible for 2000 yrs, it would have been more carefully fabricated.
Yet the very fact that there is no attempt to cover up or conceal means at the core there IS something. And there IS... the "hysterical women" at the tomb, like Saul of Tarsus, or Simon the Rock who were chosen not for their perfection, but their flaws.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda ...and you believe this because? You surely aren't pointing to your statement that because there was no cover-up I hope? Wow, you're persuaded easily!
leandeanus 1 month ago
@leandeanus - No, not persuaded. This isn't about being persuaded, and Hitchens knew logic only goes so far. This is about knowing. If you do, you do. If not, then too bad:
"It means know thy self. I wanna tell you a little secret, being the one is just like being in love. No one needs to tell you you are in love, you just know it, through and through."
-The Oracle
Good luck with your search.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda what you 'know' is the delusional teachings of bronze age middle east, we have out grown these feeble myths and can now live in a world where these stories do not apply. Can you tell me why you are not a muslim? do you deny that they also 'know' god? you cant both be right.. but you could easily both be wrong.
stevao 1 month ago
@pjamesbda or it was covered up well....
azmanabdula 1 month ago
@azmanabdula - You know the saying..."if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."? That is the gist of what I'm saying. If you watched Zeitgeist the Movie, and you realize there IS a myth. And it has been repeated over and over thru history, even BEFORE the Jewish nation, if you can imagine that, then it becomes clear the reason it is sustained is because it is true...
What is, finally our own corporeality? .....
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda you still havent made a clear premise to believe..
other than what you think is going on...
azmanabdula 1 month ago
@azmanabdula - Look. In my teens, I thought it was about surrender. In my 20s about defiance, and thru my 30s and 40s I had to work so hard there wasn't time for much else. Now, I'm 60 this year and finally, believing is both an act of defiance and surrender. I can't do it for you, or explain it equipped with a language of comparisons. It is beyond a relative description.
Isn't the nature of our existence astounding enough? (to believe)..was my quantum description.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda not at all.....i see the past generation blinded by what they were instructed to believe as a young one, this can change your perception forever...
why do you need me to believe?
why do you need to believe?
why does god need people to spread the word of his work? (that isnt all powerful)
i wonder why people even believe this at all!
sorry no offense, peace
azmanabdula 1 month ago
@azmanabdula - I enjoyed the chat. No one HAS to believe. It isn't up to me. It's okay either way, but for me anyway, I choose to believe because I know I can also choose not to. I've tried both. I like this best. Cheers.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda i see no benefits...
azmanabdula 1 month ago
@azmanabdula "All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. ... Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you."
- Carlos Castaneda
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda have a heart...
you do know the heart only pumps blood?
you base decisions on horrible logic...and there are more than 2 life paths...
azmanabdula 1 month ago
@azmanabdula - funny you'd point out the heart only pumps blood. Take the two operative words in that sentence...heart and blood. Consider what you "think" you know about both of them, and then tell me what "only" means.
As I said, your choice is yours. If you think there are numerous ones, then you miss this ultimate nature of believing or not believing. Then what?... this means there is no ultimate nature?
Also you should realize that as you judge me, you judge yourself...Dick Cheney.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
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@pjamesbda just saying you wont get anywhere thinking with your heart...
"Consider what you "think" you know about both of them"
so you're saying theres another way to describe them?
to explain there function in a completely different way than modern medicine
what are you getting at...
Harold Holt!
azmanabdula 1 month ago
@pjamesbda It appears we are on the ground of testable claims, excellent! In that case, please show me examples of a path (eg a footpath or sidewalk) which has a heart that pumps blood. Note that merely placing a heart on a footpath does not satisfy this request.
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@GypsyLeah The poignant part of this, is we discuss the objective thing, when it can only have meaning in a subjective way. I love the stubborn non-believer, like Christopher, because he refuses to embrace the heart subjectively.
Watch death or love, or any of the 10,000 things that can be witnessed with objectivity and they all add up to nothing. A howling void until it becomes subjective, ..until it is your heart.
Or don't...it is your loss, not mine to live or die or love without it.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda Hearts and sidewalks are both things which exist objectively. Making an objective observation does not diminish the subject in any way.
I will overlook the way you ignored my request if you find a dictionary and learn what 'subjective' actually means.
GypsyLeah 1 month ago
@azmanabdula - What is, finally our own corporeality? .....We are a loosely held together bundle of atoms with relatively as much space between each of those atoms as there is between the galaxies of our solar system. What ARE we? We don't even know!
So is it so amazing to recognize the transcendence of something (God?) that strings these together in such a way as to create our reality? Or is it any less precise to deny the sanctification of the isolated ego commonly held as human.
pjamesbda 1 month ago
@pjamesbda on philosophical grounds, that only raises more questions that it answers...
and it answers nothing....
azmanabdula 1 month ago
i have said ye are gods, but shall die as men
paleface8 1 month ago
No Chris, there is archaeological evidence for the Exodus & most of the writings of scripture. What gets me is why Christopher Hitchens or any non believer in Gods existence should nearly always take the time to mock & use hate speech in reference to God? Then have the audacity to inform the audience of the crusades & other offences of Christianitys past. Hypocrites!
rangoon03 1 month ago
Jesus is not suing "make no plans for the future - he is saying take the power of NOW to consider everything..... today, tomorrow and yesterday can only be real in the power of NOW. It really is not that hard to understand. Once again Mr Hitchens is dominated by his huge ego (and I sure know what that is like - God forgive me). And he quotes Jesus like he understands him. Nothing could be further from the truth. But God bless Him. The grace of God bless us all - the educated and the ignorant. :)
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 correction....... that should be "Jesus is not SAYING".. not suing.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
I simply can not believe that Mr Christopher Hitchens (an incredibly bright brother of ours) can NOT grasp the simple message of Jesus - "give no care for the morrow". All Jesus is stating is that NOW is all we will ever have. There is NO Morrow. Only NOW. All the power that will ever be available is available NOW. We must live is the present moment - the eternal Now. To spend any time IN the morrow is fruitless and wasteful. Jesus was only saying that "the morrow" can only be conceived NOW.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 hmm... can you clarify what you mean by "spending time in the morrow"?
would governments contemplating the approach of the asteroid Apophis in the year 2029 and 2036 qualify as spending time in the morrow?
what about the pen/paper and computer time spent calculating Apophis's trajectory? are those not also actions spent in the morrow?
if those are not examples of time spent in the morrow, can you provide examples of what it means to "spend time in the morrow"?
thank you :)
leet512 1 month ago
@leet512 I will try to make it simple. Say a person wears some clothing to a wedding and discovers that someone else is wearing the same thing. If that spoils the ability for either to enjoy the wedding they are entrapped by only considering the shame they feels for not wearing clothing others are not. What jesus would say is celebrate the wedding - for that is happening now. There is nothing to be gained and much to be lost by "spending time in the morrow".
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 WE also have similar social expectation that people will not bring up fights and divisions at ANY family celebration. At a child's birthday people should not begin to fight with each other about ANYTHING at the expense of the child's celebration. Any one who has put effort into a party can understand how disastrous it is to have guests lose the party feel and begin to fight. Jesus is saying do not LIVE in the future but make plans for it in the power of the present.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 In the case of the asteroid - if we were to spend time in the morrow (as in when the asteroid hits) then we may run around screaming and looking of cover or just lose all hope etc). The only powerful way that could lead to a best case outcome is to consider and plan for the future in the now. In the present for that is where GOD is. The now is eternal - the morrow is fleeting and powerless. "TODAY is the day of salvation". GRACE is NOW. LOVE is NOW not "in the morrow". Forgive NOW.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 When Jesus says "leave your children and other family members behind" - in reference to "the morow" ALL Jesus is saying is do not let you self be entrapped by those consumed by anything but the power of NOW.He is NOT saying "Ah to hell with everyone else" but "we will consider and empower everyone around us by not "spending time in the morrow". If you are going to forgive someone do not say to your self I will do it tomorrow. DO IT NOW. Acceptance is in the now - not in the morrow
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 In your example of the asteroid - there would be nothing to be gained by "spending time in the Morrow" by hanging our heads and crying all the time saying "oh if only we could go back to yesterday when we did not even know about the asteroid". Or if we pretended that the asteroid had come already and missed us and so we lived without making plans for the future. That delusion and lack of action would be described by Jesus as "spending time in the morrow' for time is power in NOW.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 ya thats what I was wondering... whether NASA and other agencies making contingency plans for 2029/2036 qualified as spending time in the morrow... in a sort of useless sense... but to me they seem quite useful because what if for example they built a laser array to destroy or deflect the asteroid... that would be time spent worrying about the future... but with a big bountiful payoff when the disaster is averted by destroying the threat :)
leet512 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 so I think if I'm reading you correctly, Jesus's admonition isn't so much against making contigency plans for the future... but more against useless despair and hand wringing... is that correct?
because if that is the case it does sound like Hitchens may have misread it as well.. because he brings up: "no investment, no thrift, no care for your children, not worry about construction, etc"... but in fact construction with the future in mind does often pay off
leet512 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 for example coastal cities that constructed sea walls... with fear of tsunamis in the morrow... often end up surviving when a tsunami does come... and the cities that do not get flooded
so it sounds like Jesus's doctrine could perhaps be rephrased to make it more clear that he is not opposed to making plans to prevent future calamities... but more that he is opposed to being paralyzed by despair or terror about the future in a sort of useless sense?
leet512 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 because "take no thought for the morrow" does sound like a phrase that could be very easily misinterpreted :)
if in fact it is not an admonition against making plans to prevent future calamities...
could a rewrite be: "take no thought for the future if you are not doing anything useful to meet that future"?
I think because the original saying is so broad it makes it sound as if Jesus was encouraging his followers to be heedless... probably what Hitchens found objectionable
leet512 1 month ago
@leet512 You have a fine mind mate. Good for you. Folk who try to question Jesus are ever quoting him in King James English because it mocks Jesus by making him sound old fashioned and out of date. When Jesus spoke to the people he used the average local language so people cold clearly understand him. Many scriptures that have modern language usage are more easily understood by folk today. Jesus is ALL FOR contingency and future and past contemplation - but never at the expense of the NOW.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 AND one must do ones best to understand that Jesus was an eternal being who was incarnated into finite time. If you could see him and hear him - then and there - mate why would you spend any time "in the morrow". When we hold a baby in our hands we become overcome with the beauty and wonder that is a new person. WE do not waste time thinking of yesterday and tomorrow. The baby is NOW. Jesus was saying LIVE NOW. LOVE NOW. Everything we have we have in the now. The future and
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 the past can ONLY be conceived in the NOW. Jesus was saying I AM NOW. To be with Jesus was to be in the power of NOW. So often we spend all our energies and passions on what might be or what once was and it is a useless and powerless endeavour. As life is precious and time limited (in the FALL OF THE WORLD) we should consider the eternal NOT be consumed with then and there. WE only experience GOD as GOD is. NOW. EVER present. Jesus was and is NOW. he called us out into NOW.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 "Jesus is ALL FOR contingency and future and past contemplation - but never at the expense of the NOW."
ya but would planning, drawing blueprints, and ultimately building laser arrays to destroy a future deadly asteroid amount to a ruining of the 'NOW'?
in most of your replies it sounds like it would not ruin the 'NOW'... and that is re-assuring because if Jesus is in favour of contingency plans in certain extreme and predictable circumstances I think he is a wise fellow :)
leet512 1 month ago
@leet512 If you never get to enjoy the power of the NOW because you are consumed with everything else then the plans are fruitless. But if you use the power of NOW to plan for the future then YES planning, drawing etc is powerful . We make plans to save us in the future because life is worth saving, BUT life is NOW. The life we have NOW is what we are trying to plan for in the future. If we live the other way around it drives us crazy and is fruitless. That is what Jesus is saying.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 AND Jesus is saying to us all "come to me and be in the now". Experience the power of eternity. Fee your selves from this temporary world of then and there and come and be forever NOW. Eternity can and should be experienced now for it is INFINITE. The life so many of us live is destroyed by consumption of thoughts of future and past. We long for the future and past but this is useless as we live in there NOW. NOW is as powerful as you let NOW be. We can not live in the past/future.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 When He talks of "leaving behind children and family" he is simply saying you must be moved and live in the NOW. So even if your closest family members are all living for past and future - you must not spend dime judging them but free yourself of this Past/Future thinking for their sake and yours. When we accept people for where they are at we are accepting them in the NOW. That is powerful. But if we become like them we in fruitlessness. It is the healthy who help the sick.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 hehe ya that makes sense... is good advice... some have sick families... although it is another phrase prone to misinterpretation because it sounds at first like it is advocating leaving them behind in physical distance/proximity... not in mental habits... but it is kinda kewl that many of these phrases can be misinterpreted because that leaves a bit of a puzzle to be solved :)
leet512 1 month ago
@leet512 I think he meant BOTH - mental and physical. He does not advocate leaving people behind defenceless and unable to support themselves. But just as a man may leave his family for years in seeking employment, Jesus is saying if you follow me, I am being in the eternal, in the NOW. If some had decided to stay with their families and not follow Jesus they would only be being held back. Jesus is wireless internet and the world is a poorly playing video machine, Jesus fruit - the world sugar.
alexleitch37 1 month ago
@alexleitch37 There is much I could explain to you about Jesus words but the letter limitation is ........ well....... limiting. Perhaps you may allow me a fuller, more comprehensive response via private mail. I will leave that up to you....... thank you for the kindness and intelligence in your responses. Not everyone on youtube has your great character mate. cheers alex
alexleitch37 1 month ago
He dropped his comb before the show.
notterswavely 2 months ago
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Ding dong the Hitch is dead.
notterswavely 2 months ago
@notterswavely Ding dong go fuck yourself.
gendo20 2 months ago
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@gendouche20 You sir and all your ilk are a pile of filibustering, felatio filled, phallically obsessed, fornication freaks, who are filled with fecal filaments frothing with the remains of your now finely fragmentalized mental faculties
notterswavely 2 months ago
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notterswavely 2 months ago
Bitch-22
notterswavely 2 months ago
Evolution has stages and in between intermediate forms.Never has an intermediate form been discovered.In evolution theory, it took millions of years for one species to evolve into another. That means their should be thousand if not millions of intermediate forms to prove something evolved.The number of fossils belonging to these, should be in the trillions.And the earth should be full of these forms. However, decades of excavation has yet to prove these forms exist.
Ratacon2004 2 months ago
@Ratacon2004 Hello! :) If you google 'transitional species of evolution' you might find plenty of sites with examples and explanations. It's also that there should be *few* of those forms. As far as I understand it, a certain population's considered a species when it can't create fertile offspring with a member of any other population, so it's like a 'click' moment- one generation members can crossbreed, and the next they can't. The rest of change is gradual, like variation within species.
iSketch4you 2 months ago
@Ratacon2004 Also, Platypi (not sure about the plural of 'platypus') are an example of a transitional form; it's a mammal able of laying eggs, with a beak. You've also got marsupials, which differ from other mammals, which give birth earlier, but keep babies in pouches (for greater mobility). The whole thing is geography-specific, in accordance to the tectonic plates that split at the time, to form Australia. This is a sign that mammals have definitely changed, for example.
iSketch4you 2 months ago
@Ratacon2004 Every single species (extinct and existent) is a transitional form, and yes, they've been found. The problem is that for various circumstances, not every single living being that ever lived on this planet gets to become a fossil, but that doesn't mean evolution doesn't take place. What matters is the patterns found give us a lead to demonstrate an evolutionary process.
hellhammerz666 2 months ago
@Ratacon2004 You can compare it to a 1000 piece puzzle, if you will. When you have managed to arrange half of those pieces, you can pretty much have an image of the final picture. This is how evolution has been demonstrated. We will most likely never find every single piece of the puzzle, but we've got enough information to understand and safely conclude this is how the various species developed.
hellhammerz666 2 months ago
@Ratacon2004 Well that's an outright lie. There are intermediary forms that human beings have seen within human history. The evolution of the wolf, into various breeds of domesticated dog that we see today. The evolution of wild bananas into the bananas that we have today. There's PLENTY of examples. Fossil records include the Ambulocetus, the Tiktaalik, various hominids considered to be proto-humans.
kainedamo 2 months ago
@Ratacon2004 We've found quite a lot considering not every transitional form appears in the fossil record because the fossil record is nowhere near complete. Organisms are only rarely preserved as fossils in the best of circumstances and only a fraction of such fossils have ever been discovered.
kainedamo 2 months ago
@kainedamo You know maybe god just created rocks in the shape of animals...problem solved LOL!
romebob84 2 months ago
Seems like Hitchens ain't given no thought to the most reasonable explanation -- that Jesus was an enlightened man, and there was some folks so impressed they followed him around and made up remarkable stories about him because they couldn't figure out any other way to describe his effect on them.
TaterGumfries 2 months ago
@TaterGumfries How about you learn some proper grammar and then someone might listen to you.
gendo20 2 months ago
@gendo20 Seems like you ought to be able to read ideas and skip the grammar.
TaterGumfries 1 month ago
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Christopher now knows God is great.
johnthreesixteen316 2 months ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Dude really? The man is dead, you're just just making his points more accurate in that there is always someone out there who is a person of a "God" figure who will continue to bash with the proof against their beliefs winking them in the face.
JordansGuitarCovers 2 months ago
deskpalm *ow*
someonezmom 2 months ago
"Take no thought for the morrow" is not an evil teaching but a wise one. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't plan for tomorrow or next year. It means that we shouldn't upset ourselves with worries about the future....that we should instead focus on the here and now. This teaching is central to many (maybe all) great philosophies....like, for instance, (Zen)Buddhism and Stoicism.
2011rosarot 2 months ago
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Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
Was sodomite Christ' Hitchens' hollow death an early Christmas gift in retribution for the total-war that he endorsed against the mothers & children of the Arab sphere?
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
@EasingDifficulties So the divine retribution is to kill one guy in revenge for hundreds of thousands, sounds like fair justice to me lololol
TheHaeresiarch 2 months ago
@TheHaeresiarch : Does it?
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
@EasingDifficulties Take your disgraceful desert myths somewhere else... Laughter and ridicule is all you'll receive here, and rightly so
PhantomGanon1 2 months ago 22
@PhantomGanon1 : You write such things because your parents have no respect for you.
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
@EasingDifficulties And you write such things because you are a delusional bigot. And I say this in the nicest way possible: get the fuck out of here, you are not welcomed here by the higher intellectuals such as @PhantomGanon1 and @cvanuen
OneUhBuv 2 months ago
@OneGuyBi : "Higher intellectuals..."? Holy Begora!
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
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Bushy George insists: “There's nothing wrong
with Dick Cheney, the Cheney part anyway.”
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
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The original purpose of the polar bears: Polar bears are capable of carrying platters, harvesting carrots & stacking bricks. The original polar bears, along with the original eskimos, lived a manor house/servant or upstairs/downstairs existence. New archaeological evidence I just dug up proves that polar bears lived as migrant laborers in service to eskimos.
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
I do believe Jesus was a real man but dont think for one second he was God.
dilwich123 2 months ago
@dilwich123 or that he is coming back...I think you left that part out.
AntonTheSpot 2 months ago
So, in summary. If jesus did exist, he was a cunt.
I guess it's no surprise that fanatical Christian are.. well... cunts.
dave474c 2 months ago 2
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A person whose diet is deficient in nitrilosidic foods (those foods rich in Amygdalin, the substance whose molecularity is 1 part: the natural analgesic benzaldehyde, 1 part: hydrogen cyanide, 2 parts: glucose) is incapable of stopping the over-production of healing cells (cells known as tumorous, trophoblastic, malignant, pre-embyonic, anaplastic, metastatic, neoplastic, neoplastigenic, placental) ergo this person has cancer.
EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
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EasingDifficulties 2 months ago
Very sad to know there wil be no more videos or books from Christopher.. RIP
sonuEEE 2 months ago
Hitch is gone now, and now arises his opposition's ultimate opportunity to denounce, dare I say destroy his passion in life and at the same time annihilate those that consider and in most cases agree with his arguments. GET YOUR GOD TO RESURRECT Christopher and I will give serious consideration to your position.
kramdoog 2 months ago
@kramdoog
'God' Damn Right.
drzenote 2 months ago
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@kramdoog : Your boyfriend Hitchens wasn't afraid of berthing shiploads of sailors in his southern port either... Wikipedia: Hitchens has written of his homosexual experiences when in boarding school in his memoir, "Hitch-22." These experiences continued in his college years when he allegedly had relationships with two men who eventually became a part of the Thatcher government.
procommenter 2 months ago
@kramdoog If you can think rationally you will realize you are hurting.
AskBobC 2 months ago
The Testaments and religious art of Jews, Christians and Muslims show you Freemason symbols, telling you they wrote the bibles. The Freemason symbols show that the solar sun is worshipped as a messiah that is called by the name Jesus and that the Lord is really the solar sun. Biblical metaphors promise nations that Freemasons will work for evil bankers calling themselves Lucifer. They plan to rob nations and massacre citizens (Revelations). WW2 was the plan of global Zionists to get rich quick.
MostMagnificentOne 2 months ago
@MostMagnificentOne The "solar" sun, as opposed to say, the lunar sun, or the Jovian sun?
If you wanna be a conspiratorial psycho, be my guest, just don't make yourself sound smarter than you are, which is not at all.
th3r3dr3dkroovy 2 months ago
@MostMagnificentOne --The Zionist Jews crashed the flying saucer at Roswell, killed both Kennedy brothers, framed Pete Rose, hypnotized all american teenage girls to go see "Titanic" 20 times each, created Jacob just so he could come between poor Edward and Bella, and then created the greatest evil the world has ever known........JUSTIN BIEBER!!! Bwaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha :-)
meamishere 2 months ago
The pattern of behavior among Zionist Jews is seen in Iraq where Zionist Jews destroyed Saddam Hussain and blamed him for killings that were never proven to have been his doing. They overthrew him. They tried him in a kangaroo court. They had another nation destroy Iraq for the Zionist Jews. Zionist Jews more than likely tookover the Iraqi banking system after murdering Saddam Hussain. Zionist Jews now threaten to pay the USA for helping to "save Jews again" by inciting Arabs to attack the USA.
MostMagnificentOne 2 months ago
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You can see that Zionist Jews are doing the same thing in the USA today. The Zionist Jews did 9/11 from their positions in goverment, military and banking. Used the mass media that the Zionist Jews control to blame Arabs over the airwaves for 9/11. Then Zionists Jews rewrote USA laws threatening and terrorizing USA citizens with threats over the Zionist Jew-controlled mass media an airwaves. Zionist Jews have destroyed jobs of non-Jews, robbed non-Jews of houses and savings. Pattern behavior.
MostMagnificentOne 2 months ago
Examining the biblical story of the Exodus closer you see that the Jews looted Egypt, left, wandered, then invaded and conquered an Arab land, Caanan. Jews repeated this in WW2 Germany, they invaded it, looted it, fled to the east, then Jews sent negroes into Germany to mate with the wives and daughters of Saxons while Jews took the safe city jobs of the Saxons and took over the German central banking system. Then Zionist Jews rewrote the laws of Germany threatening Saxons to stay silent.
MostMagnificentOne 2 months ago
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At 6:08 Christoper begins to explain his chapter on the Exodus being a fabricated story. He says the Exodus, wandering, captivity and subsequent Jewish conquering of Caanan are all fabricated. The Exodus story provides followers a pattern of behavior for the Jews' future. Jews have been scattered around the world, advised by rabbis (rabbi means master) to enter other nations. The biblical story of Exodus is a blueprint for Jew behavior, to "wander" into nations, and take them over from within.
MostMagnificentOne 2 months ago
RIP!
VoteABC2011 2 months ago 2
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Yesterday, Christopher Hitchens' heart stopped for 3 minutes, then he was resuscitated.
He said he saw a bright light and walked toward it, there he found 72 virgins waiting for him.
geezusispan 2 months ago
The bible is largely an allegory. It is not to be taken in a literal sense. Hitchens makes the same mistake as most other critics. I myself am a born again christian...and even I dont believe that Jesus Christ existed in a material sense.
librazone 2 months ago