Do You Honestly Believe That You Are Saved? JUST BECAUSE YOU PRAYED A PRAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gracesaves7772]

Jesus will say to John Piper, Leonard Ravenhill, Conway and Charles Leiter depart from me I never knew you. They trusted in their endurance and holiness and not the finished work of Christ. John 19:30.

[tramfilmrobin]

@Gracesaves7772 Amen, brother;)!

[Duck4212]

@Gracesaves7772 Those who reject the pure grace reject the work of Jesus. Either accept the Lord as a child accepting a promise or a gift you reject him. There is a way that SEEMs right to a man ( Conway, Piper, Washer, etc) but leads to destruction.

[PortavogieChristian]

@Gracesaves7772 God's Word says, "Ye shall know them by their fruits" - now I personally know little to nothing about Piper, Conway or Leiter however Leonard Ravenhill, from what I see and read has shown a work of grace has been done in his heart. He shows clear evidence of salvation through his "good fruit" as Scripture says. Listen to him more - not just his preaching, but his testimony etc!. He loves the Lord.

[streetpreacher49]

Iam sorry the faith works message is incorrect. not understanding Matt 24;13. while people do not rightly divide the word of truth 2Tim2;15 they wrest the scripture 2 Peter 3;16 to heretical teaching.

[ThePsalm40]

This is SO true my precious people, PLEASE I beg you, absorb this into your souls, time is up. Jesus the Love for Him changes your heart your soul, thoughts emotions wants dreams, you have a distaste for worldly things. I beg you please please take this serious. Learn about Hell...Heaven...truth...WHAt Jesus did for YOU!!

[rrrillll]

In Romania putea fi evitata starea actuala daca il credeam pe omul asta si pe altii ca el!!!

[DonARobson]

"And if by grace, then it is no longer of works, if it were grace would no longer be grace."-

--Romans 11:6

"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith---and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works , so that no one can boast. '

---Ephesians 2:8-9

"However to the man who does not work but trusts God who h=justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness."

---Romans 4:5

[angelmanica1]

Sharing Galatians 2:21 "I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

[MrFRO4484]

There is only one thin red line we all must cross and that is saying the sinners prayer with sincerity! The Cross represents the forgiveness of sins past, present, and future. This video states that after you receive Christ as Savior, there is another thin red line one can cross over to eternal damnation...but never give any specifics on when that person crosses that line. Is there a number of sins you can commit b4 crossing? Is there a spiritual quota to meet?

[changed4Christ4life]

@MrFRO4484 Show me were the sinnes prayer is in the Bible. It's no where, and Romans 10:9 does not support it. Yah you'll confess Christ in a church but will you confess Him with a gun to your head? Salvation/ conversion is the work of God not a decision of man. All that believe the Gospel will be saved, not all who pray a prayer and live like the devil. When God saves you you become a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), if you wan assurance of Salvation read 1 John. Faith in Christ alone

[MrFRO4484]

@changed4Christ4life Then explain to me why God says that "even YOUR good works are like filthy rags to Me!" Then tell me at what point a person believes enough to be saved, if not at the moment when they confess the sinner's prayer? Then explain to me at what point does a person cross the line out of salvation and into condemnation?

[changed4Christ4life]

@MrFRO4484 I know Isaiah 64:6, and I never said we were saved by works, I said faith in Christ alone. Salvation is the work of God, he starts it and finishes it. A person believes enough to be saved when by God's grace there mind is illuminated to understand the truth of the Gospel, and you cross into condemnation when you believe that it is by some work of yourself (even a prayer) that you have made peace with God and not that it is Christ who has made peace by His blood.

[changed4Christ4life]

@MrFRO4484 I am not saying that you are condemned for praying a prayer, I'm saying you can't substitute the work of God with a prayer. Many people pray that prayer and believe they are saved because the pastor tells them they are (I did that about 5 times). But the pastor really has no idea because he doesn't know that persons heart. We are not saved by works but true faith will produce fruit by the power of God working through it.

[gore53]

Salvation is by God's grace, through faith in Christ alone. It is the gift of God, lest any man boast. Persevering to the end (for a gift?) creates boasting. Striving to enter the narrow gate (for a gift?) causes boasting. And Lordship Salvation heretics proclaiming they alone have a 'special' holiness that allows them to see the Lord while humble people who simply believe the gospel aren't holy enough, they'd say. Washer Piper Comfort are prideful Lordship Salvation heretics adding to Gospel.

[Faithful1223]

@gore53 I feel like I have to be perfect to see God which is like a catch 22 b/c i am an imperfect being with a sinful nature. Its a vicious cycle. I thought we can REST in Jesus when we are born again and its God who keeps us. Sure I understand we must be holy but how holy will I have to be b/c I will NEVER be holy enough to get into God's Kingdom if Im depending on ME. Is salvation a gift I have 2work for? cuz thats what its sounding like from these pastors. Is salvation depending on holiness?

[gore53]

@Faithful1223 Dear, sister, read Heb 12 v 14: "Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: (now if that were up to us we'd all be in trouble... so read on, verse 15 gives you the answer to our holiness)

15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the GRACE of God.

You fall short of GRACE when you fail to believe Jesus, by His death and resurrection has made you and me holy. It's a gift. We must only believe. And say thank-you. Peace

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 No sir, no. It is a cause and effect, salvation is the cause, holiness is the effect. Ephesians 2:8-10 says, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." Salvation is a gift of God. When one is saved, he is born again.

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 2) John 3:1-15 says, "There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nic-o-de'-mus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nic-o-de'-mus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 3) old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 4) whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nic-o-de'-mus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 5) man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,k even so must the son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." This makes sense. Remember in Genesis when God told Adam that of the day he eats of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he shall surely die? Well, when Adam and

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 6) Eve ate of that fruit, they did die that day. Not physically, for they still breathed and walked; not mentally for they still had thought process; not even emotionally because there clearly was emotion in their being. Rather, they died spiritually, seperated from God in their wickedness. And we know that the sinful state of man is passed down from the father to the son. This is how Jeremiah 17:9 can say, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 7) desperately wicked: who can know it?" Man's heart is deceitful and wicked, naturally so. But when God saves a man, and this is a gift of grace, that man is changed from the inside out. God said in Ezekiel 36:26-27, "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I willl put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 8) ye shall keep my judgments, and do them." This is precisely what God does to a man when He saves Him, he regenerates that man. He takes away his wicked heart of stone, which feels nothing, and gives him a sensitive heart of flesh, which feels the pain and wickedness of sin. No longer does the man naturally crave sin in his life, but rather, he naturally craves God and righteousness. His new way of life does not grant him salvation, rather, his new way of life

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 is the evidence of his salvation. For further evidence, 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." You see that the person truly is a new creature, he is as different from his old self as a man is different from a pig. If you put for example a trash can overturned in your living room, and then next to it a plate of delux food, do you know what the pig will go for?

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 10) It will go for the trash, happily so in fact, wagging it's tail all the time, totallly unembarassed by it's behavior. However, if you were to somehow and amazingly turn this pig into a man. Well, the man would be quite embarassed indeed. He would quickly spit the garbage out of his mouth, totally revolted, and would go take a shower. From hence forth he would desire to eat real food. Perhaps sometime, he may again look at the trash, remembering his pig days

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 11) And perhaps he will even take a bit of garbage, but rest assure that he will not chew for long before he spits out the trash, feeling totally degraded and embarassed. So it is with the Christian. We sin sometimes, when tempted, but it is nothing like before. No longer do we love those things, rather, we discover that even if we try to love the very things we once did we can't, we hate it, we are men not pigs. We are a new creature. These men are showing that

[segaimportmaster]

@Faithful1223 (part 12) as Jesus showed us in Matthew 7:15-20, you can tell what a tree is by it's fruit, you can tell what a man is by his lifestyle, by his desires and loves.

[overboardbriggs]

YOu can not be born again let alone endure to the End while sitting in the whorehouses called "church" today! EveryONE of the speakers on this vid failed to obey Jesus (Isa 52:11 Rev18:2-8; 2 Cor 6:14-18 Jn10:3,27; Prov 7:6-29 by failing to "COME OUT of HER" , ie babylon, the apostate church system of Rome and her harlot daughters and granddaughters, Protestantism and Charismatics!

[MrFRO4484]

@overboardbriggs AMEN!!!

[constructmeone]

I can say this about salvation. The Book of the Acts of Salvation is the example of how to be saved. Acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation not anything else.

[dreiher2]

This is one of the best examples of false doctrine and eisegesis I have ever seen. Everyone who believes this "salvation by perseverance in good works" message will HAVE to be in the lake of fire. Salvation is by faith alone, in Christ alone. No works needed to prove that faith is genuine because there is no such thing as faith that is not genuine. Faith is faith. You either believe in Jesus for eternal life, or you do not. The former has eternal life. The latter does not. see John 3 16,17.

[420dirtnap]

The truly wicked do not like to hear truth. The truth is just because you prayed and asked jesus in your heart doent mean your saved. I question if im saved everyday. I do good but is that really enough. Like jesus said few ever find it

[jfcilliers]

Wow the truth !! Amen

[EXALTEDDIRT]

John Piper is off! His ministry would be a failure?! Then Jesus ministry was a failure because the majority (Matt.7) didn't believe even when he was here ministering. Their conversion is dependent upon the Spirit of GOD cuz if GOD doesn't move, everything he says will be; "Dead letter". I don't know what it is about that guy; endorsing Godless men like, Mark Driscoll, and sometimes saying the right things, but he just seems like he himself doesn't understand (Spiritually) what he is saying...

[MsCread]

"Went to seminary and got a big fat head and a shrunken soul"-Truth,Amen!

[wood9670]

@acewarriork, I am no longer a Christian but nice effort in trolling.

[lovejesustv]

Very convicting

[needanewstartcom]

The problem of man is they think God is like them. God is holy. We cannot even comunicate how holy God really is because it is always more! In order for God to hear our prayer it has to go through Jesus. The Father lives in unapproachable light. Many people have a demonic faith and do not repent. Jesus says if you love me obey my commands. Great video! God Bless!

[LcGodJesus]

Responding to all - 2 Part

About the verse Jesus clearly says that He

never met, that means NEVER! they were never Christians. Who judges

who is christian or not? me? I could never do that. Only God knows. I agree that many say they are Christians, but are they? Only God knows. Grace and peace to all.

[LcGodJesus]

Responding to all - 1 Part

My question is: are you saved by what Jesus did or by your

performace before God? Well if your answer is through your performance, I

I guarantee that you'll go to hell, including me. But if it is by faith in what

Jesus did and what He is for you so you and I, by God's grace, we will one

day live with Him.

[skeleton481]

@LcGodJesus Amen!

[bassmmbn3]

Great video.

in Luke 9:23 Jesus says, "If anyone would follow after me let him deny himself, take up his cross and follow me."

[ptica11]

@bassmmbn3

wow this jesus dude is 1 kinky pervert

[Eldoor]

@eymrevolution You obviously do not listen to Paul Washer because he knows he comes short and states that in many sermons. Also Christians need to pursue holiness and righteousness, give up their lives and par take of the worlds pleasures no more perusing the will of the father in ALL they do. Also you judged the preachers hearts by calling them self righteous preachers. You do not even know them. it seems you are afraid of holiness. you need to read heb 12:14. and follow holiness. Scary eh

[unprofitableservant4]

@eymrevolution if you listened to their many other sermons you would see where their hearts are. i hear these pastors often times talk of how weak they are and how they need God's grace daily just to make it through. I do not hear pride, I hear a warning and a requirement from God that lines up with the Word screaming, "repent, be ye holy as I am holy." would you call Jesus self righteous? He's the one who said, "if you love me, you WILL do as I command." not to be saved, but because you are.

[6883a927]

Wonderful

[Keruaran]

If I could write a short letter to Leonard Ravenhill it might go something like this... Dear Mr Ravenhill, today in 2010 I heard you preach and I prayed, "all my life why have I not heard preaching like this?". I know you died in 1994. Today on this thing called the internet, God has made your voice louder from the grave than it ever was in life. Because of your faithfulness to Him, the fruit of your preaching is only just beginning to fall and shake the tree. And oh what a shaking has begun.

[Keruaran]

@Keruaran Amendment: Oh what a shaking has begun... in me.

[OohTheHorror]

Leonard Ravenhill one of the greatest Englishman ever

[Bearkiller777]

Wow. Amen!

[wood9670]

Jesus says the way to hell is broad and many find it and that the way to heaven is narrow and few find it.

But "few" here does not mean that less than half of mankind will be saved. For God speaks as our Father, not our statistician. Even one child lost is too many, and the rest saved are too few. The good shepherd who left his ninety-nine sheep safe at home to rescue his one lost sheep found even 99 percent salvation too "few".

[WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp]

@wood9670 i dont agree, im sorry thats unbiblical

[jakethesnakerobertz1]

@WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp what are we supposed to do then so we do not hear these words? i thought this always refer to false prophets?

[Eldoor]

@wood9670 Sorry you are trying to interpret this passage through your doctrine on what you believe. You need to look at it with out any preconceived ideas. Many people fall into this great error without even knowing it. Where do you get your definition of few? and where do you get your definition of many? I do not even know how you can write what yo have. There is absolutely no bases for your interpretation of the scripture. In Matt 7:23 who is Jesus saying depart, people who think they saved.

[segaimportmaster]

@wood9670 In the Bible, if I remember correctly Jesus says that He desires that we all accept salvation and enter into heaven, however, that doesn't mean all do, and I think a Bible verse that says few will find it is quite plain, rather black and white really. Especially considering the verses that come directly after that one, which say that many will say 'Lord, Lord" yet will not enter into heaven, and also he says to watch out for false prophets.

[wood9670]

@segaimportmaster, Not Christian anymore so...don't care.

[segaimportmaster]

@wood9670 I'm very sorry to hear that my friend. May I ask what has caused you to not believe in the Christian God? Have you turned to another religion, or have you become an athiest, or a universalist?

[wood9670]

@segaimportmaster, I used to be Catholic, now I am an apatheist, but lead towards Deism.

I reject Christianity because I am morally opposed to its theology and moral teachings. I won't list all of my criticisms here but the mains ones for me are the doctrine of Hell and its support for the Sate ( Romans 13).

I am a voluntaryst. I oppose coercive institutions and the Christian Church and Bible clearly supports government.

[saveyoursoulyt]

@wood9670  /user/excatholics?ob=video-mus­tangbase

[oscar45515]

@wood9670 Well my dear friend,and I hope this doesn't offend, but all you have done was 'Jumped from the Frying pan into the Fire'

Please don't throw 'Christ and your Eternity' out with the bathwater!

[ouellette666]

No creed must be accepted upon authority of a “divine” nature. Religions must be put to the question. No moral dogma must be taken for granted—no standard of measurement deified. There is nothing inherently sacred about moral codes. Like the wooden idols of long ago, they are the work of human hands, and what man has made, man can destroy

[Shoots1978]

I know that many people will comment on here and say things about some christians, but I am apart from Him, that His working I am far from Him. That's why in the attitude of my heart I am thankful for His work and that salvation is not left up to me. And please no one send me a comment on this, I am not looking for any replies or Amen's from anyone. Just think during certain sermons or video clips we have got to keep our attitude of our hearts humble and one above another.

[mercedesbenzcar]

Finally some Real Hardcore preaching! I Love it! "Christians" Really ought to hear this message.. Sad to see so many multitudes decieved by there own pastors,preachers,elders,etc about the lie that if you say a "prayer" your automatically "Saved". "Christians need to get out their Bibles for once and read the scripture throughly. Christians who are supposed to be Christ-like need to realize what is the truth before its to late. :)

[sbeallvln]

"Emphatically", not "infantically"

[mpalssonur]

This video is revolting.

[BornSinners]

GREAT VIDEO : A must watch by all prophesying Christians and non believers

[TrueShalom]

@BornSinners :Brother Born, I think of this verse often "work out your salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure" Phil 2:12. I wanted to tell you, what I told outbackcafe, that every true prophet,teacher of the Word is hated n dispised by d world.Remember that when people scorn u 4 wat u believe n wen u speak up they did the same to the Lord and to His Prophets.

[evomitzu]

To say we must do something like "works" to be save is blasphemy {ephesians 2:8}, all we must do is stay with the Lord in prayer and in his word everyday is to be in his love everyday we will obey him becuase we love him. if you were saved you will desire God everyday!! If you fall and shrink back to the world and do not comeback to Christ you were never his the bible says so. This is how works are produce in us by the Spirit of God.

[blakeash2]

subscribed due to the promotion of lordship salvation (the only kind of salvation)

[evomitzu]

@blakeash2 No dear friend the works the bible speaks about are the works of the Spirit which you can find in Galatains 5:22-25 if you have not been born again you will not be able live like this, this is the fruit of the Spirit, the evidence that a person has been saved is that you want Christ and you start to hate your own sin and start to repent from it everyday.

[evomitzu]

@blakeash2 Be fillied with the Spirit everyday, may i sugest that you pray in the mornings like Jesus Christ did. Read a chapter of the bible, because your brain in the mornings is fresh, so you want to put in your mind the things of God not tv or radio or music but prayer and the word of God alone. Fellowship....with Christ..

[blakeash2]

@evomitzu I don't disagree brother! Thanks for the advice..God bless

[evomitzu]

@blakeash2 ah, blessings to you brother.

[lucy9359]

Not with out saying how we aquire this holiness. We can't get into works to be holy.

[LORDLEADTHEWAY]

Good stuff!!!! Lip service is overrated! And yes ur actions do speak a lot louder then anything u could ever say.....

Praise the Name of Jesus....Lord please lead the way...

[JayZrob]

this video is astounding! Eye Opener! Praise God

anyway- why is the poster of this video WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp, saying words like "Fuck" ? seems like his actions are contrary to the Vid he posted. Sorry to say, but i say this not to condemn but to rebuke brothers.

[LcGodJesus]

it doesn't make sense when you say Christians will be there and they will hear from Jesus "I never knew you" that meas they were never Christians. Do you know how many religions in the world believe in Jesus? they also use the name of JESUS, these verses are for those people.

[LORDLEADTHEWAY]

@LcGodJesus ....I do believe these verses are for so-called Christians. Living a life for Jesus is not suppose to be easy. If it was not easy for the Master, then you know it's suppose to be hard for the servant/friend.

[evomitzu]

@LcGodJesus With all your respect i believe this verse is meant for christians, Jesus will judge his own and the father the world. I never knew you are for thoes who just get tire of following Christ and end up going back to the world and thoes who started good and then whent to a difrent gospel also thoes prosperty gospels and it's followers. Luke 12:42-48, Salvation can't be lost but we can walk out on it

[evomitzu]

@LcGodJesus Every christian skips out on the first comanmdment which is ofcourse love God with your heart mind and strength. You know the word of God teaches us to be more like Christ and since God is love and agape love is longsufering, so we too must have this kind of love for Christ because of the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit and this is the works that we do because of the Spirit of God in us Galatians 5:22-25

[Eldoor]

@LcGodJesus So in your comment you are telling me that you believe that every single person that professes to be a christian is actually saved and going to heaven? There are NO tears with the wheat? hmmmmmm something is wrong here.Can you explain please.

[LcGodJesus]

@Eldoor I posted a responding saying what I think ok brother? Grace and piece Cause it was more than 500 words lol . God Bless

[MustardSeedish]

You make a terrible representative of the Lord. How dare you copy a video from a faithful source, and blasphemy the name of the name of our Lord by making a mockery of your sanctification. I would seriously examine yourself. A true disciple would care about the eternity of others and mirror Christ's grace and mercy. Read Matthew 5, and 1 John.

[M400fan]

Your post would have had far more impact if it hadn't contained the expletives - such language is not an example of the holiness the bible speaks of.

[tmirzaian]

This is teaching the religion of guilt. How does anyone's mind get them to believe that if we came to the cross wicked, sinful, broken and without repentence and yet are given the gift of GRACE by surrendering our lives asking for forgiveness and accepting Jesus Christ as our Savior. How then could we ever out sin that Grace? The marriage to legalism is broken. We are now adopted into the Family of God. Jesus did what the law could not. Read Romans 8:1 - 8:3. Happy Birthday Jesus.

[michealhusonjr]

This is not a teaching of guilt unless indeed one is guilty. This sort of preaching (true preaching) is designed to convict the sinner and, by this same Grace that you speak of, grant the Saint and comfort and a Holy fear (ecclesiastes 12:13-14) for our Holy God. The LORD has said that His Spirit will not always strive with man and we must always be mindful of this. Jesus is coming back. Malachi 3:2

[LORDLEADTHEWAY]

@michealhusonjr ....Amen! 2 Cor 7:10.

[mkmason2002]

Yes surrendering our lives to HIS WILL, not our will, that's what Paul is saying. Many people want Jesus to be their Savior, to get THEM out of hell but they don't accept Him as Lord. One must come with the other. The churches in my city are dead, spending millions of $ on basketball courts, cyber cafes, fancy huge churches........Laodicean. Me, me, me! Not caring for a world going to hell. Go ask 10 believers how many people they have led to the Lord this year. How many have you led to Jesus?

[jacksmack77]

Washer, Ravenhill, Conway, Piper, you are all a bunch of hellbound, works-salvationists who need to stop whining. You are a bunch of wicked false prophets. Romans 3:26. Faith alone in Christ alone. You are the one's Jesus will say "I never knew you." You guys are a bunch of liars!!! The fact that you guys won't move on to something topically different proves that you are false teachers.

[M400fan]

John the Baptist, Jesus Himself, Peter and Paul ALL taught the need for repentance - pre-cross/resurrection and post-cross/resurrection - it is an unchanging message - we MUST turn around, AWAY from sin TOWARDS God - and exercise faith TOWARD Christ - or we will be lost - Jesus will save His people FROM their sins, not just IN them, leaving them to wallow in the things that necessitated Christ's suffering and death!

[Eldoor]

@jacksmack77 Faith alone in Christ does save. BUT if your faith is not producing holiness like the book of James says then your faith is dead and can not save you. This is where people go wrong. If you live a sinful life you are not saved even if you confess Jesus and said the sinners prayer. read 1st john. if you say you know him and walk in darkness you lie and the truth is not in you. Faith in Christ produces a new creature, which produces holy living, not same old sinful lusts you had before

[Zillatha]

@Eldoor How can I give this quote 20 thumbs up?? Well said! :)

[Eldoor]

@Zillatha Thanks. This is not a teaching people like to hear. When I was first hearing of this teaching IT MADE ME SO MAD, Then I started to try and refute it to only see that the bible agreed with it, only then to fall on my knees and repent, only then to start to preach it, only then to start to get persecuted by my own friends and church. Funny how that happens.

[skeleton481]

@Eldoor You feel persecuted not because you teach the truth but because you teach a lie! The bible clearly says "salvation is a gift of God least anyone boast" If you think your saved by anything but Gods grace you are in big trouble brother. You dont understand what sanctification is thats where you are making your mistake. read Romans 8 and let God speak to your heart. Nothing can ever seperate us from christ.

[Eldoor]

@skeleton481 Did you read any of my comments.Do you read your bible? Do you take the whole council of God or just your doctrine? See again i will say it. yes we are saved by grace through faith ALONE. Now God does not leave you there. If you are truely saved by FAITH ALONE, as james says that faith will produce works in your life. You are the one who believes a lie if you think you stay the same once coming to Chris. We will know them by thier fruit. Works is always produce by faith. FAITH ALONE

[skeleton481]

@Eldoor Yes of course good works should be a natural result of true faith I agree. The issue of this video is focused on good works for salvation. It is a LIE to say that a christian must consistently produce good works to be saved. SANCTIFICATION is the process of becoming "Christlike". It is a seperate experiance from SALVATION. We do good works in appreciation of what the lord did for us. Salvation is a gift period. NO MAN SHALL BOAST OF HIS WORKS ON JUDGEMENT DAY. Praise God for his mercy.

[Eldoor]

@skeleton481 Do a study on works dude.Do a study on 1st john. Sanctification comes out of your relationship with Christ. If you are a true christian you begin to hate what God hates and love what God loves. Are you perfect as soon as you are a believer NO but you begin to transform. You no longer listen to Black Sabbath or guns and roses. For James says If you are a friend to the world you are an enemy to God. Most people in your position us it to justify their ungodly life and deny holy living

[skeleton481]

@Eldoor Sanctification is a life long process of growing up in your faith. If I don't reach the same level of sanctification as you do by the time I die that doesn't mean that christ will reject me. All it means is that you will recieve rewards that I won't receive in heaven. My relationship with christ is personal. Whether I grow alot or a little in my faith is between God and I. This side of heaven you will not reach perfection no matter how hard you try.

[skeleton481]

@Eldoor There are many christians that listen to all kinds of music that doesn't mean that they're not saved. You suggested I study 1 John and I will but you should seriously read Romans 8 and try and tell me that people lose their salvation for being too carnal. The Apostle Paul says no way jose. Salvation is a gift period and NOTHING can ever seperate us from the love of God again. It's a done deal.

[Eldoor]

@skeleton481 Okay first of all I am not going to go into the once saved always saved or if you can lose your salvation because there are scriptures on both sides and it has been an argument for many hundreds of years. But what I will content about is this. Not every one that claims to be a christian is a christian. Just because they say the sinners prayer means nothing. it is not a magical formula. No sinners prayer in bible. We must trust in Christ sacrifice by faith. continued no more space

[Eldoor]

@skeleton481 Once somone trust in Christ by FAITH ALONE they become a new creature in Christ. The Holy Spirit dwells in them. if they still live a carnal life there was no change they are not saved. if you can listen to satans music and not be convicted there is no Holy Spirit living in you to convict you. the holy spirits Job is to convict of sin righteousness and judgment. . If you look like the world, smell like the world, act like the world, you are the worlds and not Christs. PERIOD!!!!

[skeleton481]

@Eldoor Believe whatever you like to believe I'm finished with debating you. I know what the word says and I know you are wrong that's all that matters to me. Nothing you can say will convince me of your legalistic beliefs.

You see no matter what you say I'm going to trust Jesus. I know unlike you that I cant save myself and I can't keep myself saved. It's all Jesus not me.

[Eldoor]

@skeleton481 Of course you say this. You cant explain how a name can be blotted out of the book of life or other scriptures. You grasp to your doctrine and you do not reconcile the whole word of God. You bury your head in the sand refusing to look at the whole word of God. This allows you to live in sin and think you are going to heaven. jesus said in 1st john IF you love me you will follow my commands. So do you love him or love sin. Do you love him or love your demonic music.

[pamansprewell33]

@Eldoor i think both of you believe in an unconditional covenant. One of you may be the "weaker brother" spoken of in Romans. and i think the one who is stronger should be reminded not to do things that will offend the weaker brother, even if it is lawful for HIMSELF. now that's not to denote the laws of God. there are incedentals in our life that fall under the category of Christian liberty. some songs we simply aren't at liberty to enjoy. but i think there are many that we may.

[bazzymushpea123]

That's the worrying thing about Christianity- for some people I think it becomes a little too easy and comfortable and they think they will inherit heaven because they have faith and pray, but there is so much more to it. I need to get back on it.

[TRU2myHEART]

Faith without works is not real faith. It is simple.

[TRU2myHEART]

I believe I am saved by the Son, therefore I am.

[M400fan]

Are you still living a sinful life of disobedience to Him? If so, you are deceiving yourself that you are saved - if you are not BEING saved now, you have no right to say you ARE saved.

[skeleton481]

@M400fan We all sin. Are you sinless then cast the first stone hypocrite!

[M400fan]

@skeleton481 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him. Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.

[skeleton481]

@M400fan Read Romans 8:38-39 Paul was convinced that NOTHING can ever seperate us from the love of God. Your going to have to explain what the apostle paul meant by NOTHING if your going to say holy living is a condition for salvation. Paul leaves no room for you to insert anything in there as an exception. So if we ever honestly prayed the sinners prayer and gave our lives to jesus we are saved now and forever no matter what.

[M400fan]

@skeleton481 You need to read the whole chapter. For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die... Rom 8:13a Rom 8:38-39 applies to the elect - those whom God chose from before the foundation of the world - they repent, believe and persevere in the faith - the whole of Rom 8 is what happens between the justification and the glorification - are you suffering with Christ? Salvation isn't CONDITIONAL on holiness, it's EVIDENCED by holiness! Perseverance is essential.

[M400fan]

@skeleton481 The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. 1 Jn 3:4-9

[11thsockpuppet]

Heresy alert.

This is clearly outside mainstream Christianity and deliberately missrepresents the Holy Bible to promote the cause of the destructive cult it serves.

[EquiLiBriuM1986]

You're 100% right it's outside mainstream Christianity. Again, FEW there be that find it. Sadly that includes the church.

[WashyBanjo]

what? you mean the same guy who would send you to hell in the first place is saving you from himself?

[megamanpda]

I was worried quite a bit by this.

[WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp]

Your heart

[megamanpda]

What about my heart?

[theanswersofnwo3]

Very good video. Some will unsubscribe because they do not know the Lord.

[WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp]

Amen

most carnal Christians will hear them words from the lips of Jesus,

''Depart From Me, i never knew you''

[Zillatha]

@WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp The sad thing is that every "church goer" watching this video would not even consider that they could be one of the ones Jesus tells to depart. Everyone is comfortable and confident in their relationship with God. There is a *Reason* we are told to work out our faith with *Fear and Trembling*...

[Tripp9]

@WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp There are no carnal Christians. How can a person experience the splendor of Christ and not change? I think they did not meet Him at all.

[skeleton481]

@WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp You are crazy! What part of grace don't you understand? Weak christians lose rewards in heaven not their salvation! salvation is a one time event! people don't work out there salvation christ has already done it for us! quit scaring people! What will you say to jesus if he asks you why he should let you into heaven? If its anything but "because I put all of my trust in you lord" then you have a big problem. Salvation is a gift period not the beginning of a gift!

[skeleton481]

@WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp You should be very careful here. That verse refers clearly to people who claim to have done WORKS in christs name but the lord says he never knew them. It refers to false religions not lukewarm christians. Religions that claim to know jesus but reject salvation by grace alone.

People that don't have any love in their hearts but act religious.

[skeleton481]

@theanswersofnwo3 Fearmongering rubbish! This video is absolute lies! The people God rejects at the judgement are people like the jerk doing this video! Works driven hypocrites! and false religions like Muslims, Jehovah Nitwits, Mormons ect... this misguided fool is teaching lies! there are two things that happen when a person accepts christ first salvation by grace. next sanctification which is an on going process. This is clearly what the bible teaches!

[WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp]

???????

What do you mean tony?

[WeFalDwnButWeGetBkUp]

U tyring to imply that this is not Biblical?????

[megaman2160]

jesus will not say this to christians. he will say this to false prophets. people who made false prophecies in his name. not christians

[evomitzu]

@DJTonyAllen I don't think he was speaking about lordship salvation. He is talking about the power of God saving you, imagine that..christians puting faith in their works and flesh and descisions rather then on faith in Christ to be saved by his garce, we couldn't save ourselfs back then we can't save ourselfs now but Christ can gives us eternal life.

[Joel0277]

@DJTonyAllen Lordship Salvation. Do you know what you are even saying mister or are you simply trying to JUSTIFY the case for your miserable soul. Why bother commenting saying you're unsubing, you think he needs your subscription? 'll tell you why you commented sayign you are leaving, coz that is your way of JUSTIFYING for your thinking to be right. If it didnt bother your poor self YOU WOULDN'T EVEN COMMENT HERE !! Be Honest with YOURSELF and Stop living for YOURSELF!!

[Joel0277]

@DJTonyAllen So your telling me it makes a difference if it was a comment from 2 weeks ago? Lol you got issues man serious ones.