This is very Fox news or CNN style reporting, in the sense that all the guest did was confirm what the reporter implied in her questions, rather than presenting any new points of view or debate. Either way RT is an interesting counter-bias to US mainstream sources.
LOL - if the us Military creates an actual branch for Cyberwarfare, I'm signing up! Can you imagine: Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, Cyber Force! I imagine that Cyber Force special ops would be able to hack into a net work with a calculator and a can of soda!
Maybe DHS should look into the planned destruction of the middle class by CONgress, the Whitehouse, WallSt, and the Federal Reserve, and quit chasing the true PATRIOTS! DHS... GET A JOB! LEAVE AMERICANS ALONE! INVESTIGATE YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT! Or are YOU the real CRIMINALS!
While I like most of what Anonymous has done so far, there is a danger. I mean hacking can have a lot of results other than giving Corporations headaches. Personally I'm a little leary of an unknown, ungoverned entity with the ability to get into my private affairs. What if they decided to use their super powers for evil instead of good?
@CrystalsandCandles lol do you fear a ddos attack that badly. If anonymous was evil they'll just join the countless cyber criminals and wouldn't work togethor because they'll be mostly after your bank account details and thats not really a crew type job
Why would Anon target any of the things in the report? Surely attack power stations etc would be more damaging to they cause? Perhaps this "threat" comes from behind the great firewall and Anon are the scapegoat?
Sounds like the government is putting out propaganda against anonymous, something I highly doubt they could care much about. Making them sound worse than they are.
So where was the DHS condemnation of Stuxnet used on the Iranians? Oh ya, their infrastructure isn't as important as ours. It doesn't surprise me in the least to see this cyber war escalating into the telemetry realm. Build your Botnets and protest with DDos, but don't start a panic with these infrastructure attacks, please.
this is like the only news source i listen to lately, becuz they show coverage about what im into since it got viral and big companies got hit, i stand bihind their mindset,THUMBS UP TO U GUYS !
Not offended, I work in construction, not a tech guy, just a fan. I've been kinda into the "Kurzweil" thing for a while now and it's encouraging to see a group taking the reigns on internet freedom etc., at such a precarious time. I don't think alot of people realise how high the stakes are(especially not in my demographic). The work they've done + OWS has given millions of faceless idiots like me a little more hope.
I think it's about time 4 Anon 2 do some re-branding. It's seems obvious 2 me when some fuger in a Guy Fawkes mask tweets Tony Balogna's adress, that it's more likely 2 b a sabateur than an actual activist, but not 4 everybody. I don't know a thing bout hacking or Anon, but I'd guess losing the masks could make imatation harder,n' keep you current in a fickle media culture. I.T. is going 2 b even more crucial 2 all systems in the future, and what Anon is doing now is essential 4 freedom!!
Unfortunately, it shows. No offense. Too late for anything like you suggested to have any effect, anyways. Anonymous is a brand name anyone can use, with or without the mask - which comes mostly from Project Chanology anyways (which might explain why it's used in almost all activist ops and IRL now), not the original Anonymous, which has the suit with the "?" as a head, amongst other representations.
here is an interesting thaught... If they outlaw DDOS Attacks... the only real constitutionary defence would be that the DDOS'ers are preventing free speech. (which corperate identities have as, legaly they can be interpretted as people) but this would mean that it would be statutarily illegal for the government to activly deny or sensor websites or popular threads as they too would be covered under such laws. in short. their "War powers" and power to protect their "People" would be compromised.
If the government were actually fool enough to have critical infrastructures attached to the public internet in the first place, they are just complete fools, or they have setup the 'bait car,' the latter of which is likely more truthful than the first. but a nearly a tie!
When it comes to a the rise of a global movement like OWS that would be nothing without social media and the internet, of course DHS is going to do everything they can to demonized Anon so the feds can eventually shut down the internet 'for our protection.'
I wish I could experience living in a nation that is not run through fear, before I die. Although, as a person gets older it gets easier to see through it, although I fear for the younger generations who so easily accept the fear as truth.
God these reporters are stupid. No one individually has enough computers to do a DDoS. They are always done by using slave machines without the owners permission. So even though DDoS isn't itself hacking, the way it's done currently is through hacking other peoples computers to have enough to pull the attack off.
@death2hardcore - yes, but I've never heard reports of large enough volunteer botnets to be effective. If a 100% volunteer DDoS attack was done and successful then we'd be talking about something different.
What this is, is a step towards relabeling hacking as "terrorism." Pretty soon, the kind of thing that Anon does will be labelled as "cyber-terrorism."
Kind of like how environmental activists were relabeled "eco-terrorists." Funny how that works huh?
The fact of the matter is that Anonymous has to be careful. Anyone who isn't savvy is going to get fucked, the government has already stated their interest in destroying them and has already exhausted a number of opportunities. What really worries me is not propaganda so much as illegal acquisition of information....
We shouldn't be surprised if they start going to the ISP level and running secret subpoenas for mass information on anti-government folks on the internet.
Be aware folks. 'Our' governement is not For the people. They will do their Best to discredit us: Make 'US' look like bad guys. We need to be Pro-active and get our message out. We are not just only for the People, We ARE The People! Stand Tall, Be Strong, Be Peaceful.
Hm.. I believe "DHS Taunting Anonymous" would be more accurate. There's no actual reason for the DHS to smear Anonymous when they have been rather inactive lately (at least compared to previous occurrences). By taunting Anonymous, it might give them a chance to catch some Anon members who happened to "take the bait" (if my theory is right).
Don't have anything to back this up however, but just throwing the idea out.
The Christofascist traitors are shitting themselves in fear now that Anonymous has been joined by millions of American citizens in opposing these shitting corporate theofascist pigs.
@NotSoOldHippy But you forget that the people need to be put in line and coerced to love more their country.. because now the economy just happens to necessitate it.. And oh.. it also helps if some people are made to be um.. convenient enemies.
This is very Fox news or CNN style reporting, in the sense that all the guest did was confirm what the reporter implied in her questions, rather than presenting any new points of view or debate. Either way RT is an interesting counter-bias to US mainstream sources.
sheepblitzer 2 weeks ago
LOL - if the us Military creates an actual branch for Cyberwarfare, I'm signing up! Can you imagine: Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force, Cyber Force! I imagine that Cyber Force special ops would be able to hack into a net work with a calculator and a can of soda!
actracts 1 month ago
he bounces up and down when he talks lol
PS360DDW2009 3 months ago
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TheRedCoke 4 months ago
Maybe DHS should look into the planned destruction of the middle class by CONgress, the Whitehouse, WallSt, and the Federal Reserve, and quit chasing the true PATRIOTS! DHS... GET A JOB! LEAVE AMERICANS ALONE! INVESTIGATE YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT! Or are YOU the real CRIMINALS!
AmericanFreedom911 4 months ago
wolf-pac dot com
AltairZielite 4 months ago
don't be such pussies. You want a revolution, or you want a T-shirt saying "we tried" ??
miketv 4 months ago
While I like most of what Anonymous has done so far, there is a danger. I mean hacking can have a lot of results other than giving Corporations headaches. Personally I'm a little leary of an unknown, ungoverned entity with the ability to get into my private affairs. What if they decided to use their super powers for evil instead of good?
CrystalsandCandles 4 months ago
@CrystalsandCandles lol do you fear a ddos attack that badly. If anonymous was evil they'll just join the countless cyber criminals and wouldn't work togethor because they'll be mostly after your bank account details and thats not really a crew type job
mohhamza 4 months ago
@CrystalsandCandles its the collective opinion that drives anonymous, that IS anonymous. there is no 'they'.
shaggie07 4 months ago
@CrystalsandCandles I think your confusing them with the Governments of the world.
Maximustard 4 months ago
Anonymous rocks
Glambert27 4 months ago
Reorganize all US Federal, State, City, and County agencies and departments to reduce and streamline for efficiency and effectiveness.
airforcemax 4 months ago
Eliminate DHS - reorganize all US federal agencies and departments to reduce to size and streamline for efficiency and effectiveness.
Tie the productivity of federal employees to US elected leaders like the private sector does it.
airforcemax 4 months ago
What's funny... Anonymous just went after a child porn site. I wonder when DHS will talk about that?
Jyagos1 4 months ago
They are Anonymous, Expect them......
CuPcAkEna45 4 months ago
Why would Anon target any of the things in the report? Surely attack power stations etc would be more damaging to they cause? Perhaps this "threat" comes from behind the great firewall and Anon are the scapegoat?
bastardacademic 4 months ago
This is nothing new. They have been crying about Anonymous since the Project Chanology...
avideogameplayer 4 months ago
Sounds like the government is putting out propaganda against anonymous, something I highly doubt they could care much about. Making them sound worse than they are.
MrEug69 4 months ago
Of course, the DHS fears Anonymous, the Govt. fears everybody.
BrotherWoody1 4 months ago
critical infrastructure isn't connected to the internet.
norbu2006 4 months ago
@norbu2006 i support anon, but do you even understand what infrastructure is?
the telecommunications system is a vital piece of our infrastructure. the internet IS critical infrastructure!
hoosiergambler 4 months ago
So where was the DHS condemnation of Stuxnet used on the Iranians? Oh ya, their infrastructure isn't as important as ours. It doesn't surprise me in the least to see this cyber war escalating into the telemetry realm. Build your Botnets and protest with DDos, but don't start a panic with these infrastructure attacks, please.
MattSyTy 4 months ago
this is like the only news source i listen to lately, becuz they show coverage about what im into since it got viral and big companies got hit, i stand bihind their mindset,THUMBS UP TO U GUYS !
crashaly 4 months ago
Not offended, I work in construction, not a tech guy, just a fan. I've been kinda into the "Kurzweil" thing for a while now and it's encouraging to see a group taking the reigns on internet freedom etc., at such a precarious time. I don't think alot of people realise how high the stakes are(especially not in my demographic). The work they've done + OWS has given millions of faceless idiots like me a little more hope.
halfzombiehalfrobot 4 months ago
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we are anonymous
we are legion
we do not forgive
we do not forget
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sobored671 4 months ago
I think it's about time 4 Anon 2 do some re-branding. It's seems obvious 2 me when some fuger in a Guy Fawkes mask tweets Tony Balogna's adress, that it's more likely 2 b a sabateur than an actual activist, but not 4 everybody. I don't know a thing bout hacking or Anon, but I'd guess losing the masks could make imatation harder,n' keep you current in a fickle media culture. I.T. is going 2 b even more crucial 2 all systems in the future, and what Anon is doing now is essential 4 freedom!!
halfzombiehalfrobot 4 months ago
@halfzombiehalfrobot
"I don't know a thing bout hacking or Anon"
Unfortunately, it shows. No offense. Too late for anything like you suggested to have any effect, anyways. Anonymous is a brand name anyone can use, with or without the mask - which comes mostly from Project Chanology anyways (which might explain why it's used in almost all activist ops and IRL now), not the original Anonymous, which has the suit with the "?" as a head, amongst other representations.
AnonRanGER01 4 months ago
here is an interesting thaught... If they outlaw DDOS Attacks... the only real constitutionary defence would be that the DDOS'ers are preventing free speech. (which corperate identities have as, legaly they can be interpretted as people) but this would mean that it would be statutarily illegal for the government to activly deny or sensor websites or popular threads as they too would be covered under such laws. in short. their "War powers" and power to protect their "People" would be compromised.
nikmindage 4 months ago
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If the government were actually fool enough to have critical infrastructures attached to the public internet in the first place, they are just complete fools, or they have setup the 'bait car,' the latter of which is likely more truthful than the first. but a nearly a tie!
paulcoonan 4 months ago
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paulcoonan 4 months ago
When it comes to a the rise of a global movement like OWS that would be nothing without social media and the internet, of course DHS is going to do everything they can to demonized Anon so the feds can eventually shut down the internet 'for our protection.'
I wish I could experience living in a nation that is not run through fear, before I die. Although, as a person gets older it gets easier to see through it, although I fear for the younger generations who so easily accept the fear as truth.
paulcoonan 4 months ago
When will the media understand. Anonymous is not an organization. We are heaven. We are hell. I am Anonymous. Alyona. You are Anonymous.
zombiecatz 4 months ago 3
These yoyos want to keep their cushy jobs at all costs. What utter nonsense.
Magenta408 4 months ago
God these reporters are stupid. No one individually has enough computers to do a DDoS. They are always done by using slave machines without the owners permission. So even though DDoS isn't itself hacking, the way it's done currently is through hacking other peoples computers to have enough to pull the attack off.
Faladrin 4 months ago
@Faladrin there are volunteer botnets as well as the usual zombie botnets out there. Both are obviously used lol.
death2hardcore 4 months ago
@death2hardcore - yes, but I've never heard reports of large enough volunteer botnets to be effective. If a 100% volunteer DDoS attack was done and successful then we'd be talking about something different.
Faladrin 3 months ago
What this is, is a step towards relabeling hacking as "terrorism." Pretty soon, the kind of thing that Anon does will be labelled as "cyber-terrorism."
Kind of like how environmental activists were relabeled "eco-terrorists." Funny how that works huh?
We should just delcare war on everything.
hawanja 4 months ago
The fact of the matter is that Anonymous has to be careful. Anyone who isn't savvy is going to get fucked, the government has already stated their interest in destroying them and has already exhausted a number of opportunities. What really worries me is not propaganda so much as illegal acquisition of information....
We shouldn't be surprised if they start going to the ISP level and running secret subpoenas for mass information on anti-government folks on the internet.
Redfingers 4 months ago
Be aware folks. 'Our' governement is not For the people. They will do their Best to discredit us: Make 'US' look like bad guys. We need to be Pro-active and get our message out. We are not just only for the People, We ARE The People! Stand Tall, Be Strong, Be Peaceful.
MicMacGrass1 4 months ago
False flag ops forthcoming...? Watch out, Anonymous.
paulo101 4 months ago
I have a feeling that the 'New American Revolution' will turn out to be one of the strangest on record. :)
vladdrac88 4 months ago
"Anonymous" IS the "99%"?!
Anonymous are NOT hackers,
but the REVERSE is true, according to them.
UnoRaza 4 months ago
To fuck up infrastructure would go against what Anonymous has always aimed to do.
how can you have freedom of information, when in itself the way to distripute the information is destroyed.
This isn't even or should be a question or thought to many.
Yet Commonsence to all.
DHS is trying to tie down and secure as much shit as possible, no matter who rights they step on in process!
Louloe 4 months ago
Wow, the comments aren't full of wingnuts claiming Anonymous is controlled by the CIA.
PompousPreacher 4 months ago 26
@PompousPreacher The comments are tea-bag/Inbreeding Norway Nazi free
Gh0stIII 4 months ago
Hm.. I believe "DHS Taunting Anonymous" would be more accurate. There's no actual reason for the DHS to smear Anonymous when they have been rather inactive lately (at least compared to previous occurrences). By taunting Anonymous, it might give them a chance to catch some Anon members who happened to "take the bait" (if my theory is right).
Don't have anything to back this up however, but just throwing the idea out.
MadnessRealm 4 months ago
Go ANON! Go OCCUPY!
FUCK YOU DHS, nazi goosestepping pigs. Please stop molesting kids and raping the constitution soon.
MartianStories 4 months ago
The Christofascist traitors are shitting themselves in fear now that Anonymous has been joined by millions of American citizens in opposing these shitting corporate theofascist pigs.
NotSoOldHippy 4 months ago 35
@NotSoOldHippy I agree! I totally support Anonymous they just may be our saving grace .They have already said they are going after the koch bros.
420gma 4 months ago
@420gma oh god I hope they do
HeirOfGlee 4 months ago
@NotSoOldHippy Hey there kiddo, question.
Do you think these people even claim to be "Christian" amongst themselves?
I thought they were the ones who stand around in red robes with circles of pretty ladies kissing each other ala "Eyes Wide Shut"; ie. satanists.
UnoRaza 4 months ago
@NotSoOldHippy But you forget that the people need to be put in line and coerced to love more their country.. because now the economy just happens to necessitate it.. And oh.. it also helps if some people are made to be um.. convenient enemies.
MrZauruz 4 months ago
@NotSoOldHippy yes yes they are I think they should start a fire sale on the wall street banks data
Amazalemno 4 months ago