@wisewarrior7 It could be... but Abel is french and Charlie is american, they have completely different accents and reactions to things. But they do look a like, except Abel doesn't have glasses, he appears to have a haircut, he is more muscular and wears different clothes.
@TheMunchlaxboy Abel/Charlie just happened to have been in France.Maybe that's where the base Chrlie went to was.Who knows what Charlie would be shaped like in Street Fighter 4 graphics,and I'd expect him to be wearing different clothes.His would have probably been all torn up when the mercanaries found him in the ruined Shadaloo base.I don't know if those glasses Charlie wore were for reading or not.He took them off when he fought.
For all those who think the man that saved abel is charlie ...think again. Remeber in his rival fight cutscene with guile he said that he had seen that move before, he may as well have seen it when seth was doing it before his memory became all fuzzy.
This might be a different topic but I think the new character for SSF4 could be named Cain because in the bible Abel Seth and Cain are brothers so maybe Cain could be like another failed experiment...Right?
Does anyone other than me think that Abel is actually the character Joe? They're both blonde and have the same build, along with a similar fighting style. Also "Joe" is a common alternative name for an unknown person "John dOE" anyone agree?
i've never understood why they are just randomly standing in the middle of a big road. I mean, she's surprised by Abel, but he's a giant scarred muscular man dressed in a martial arts outfit standing in the middle of road and she reacts like "oh, didn't know someone was there!"
Abel may be an advanced clone of Seth ; They share some regular basic moves(if I'm right) , they have basically the same body shape. One thing to note is during Abel's Ultra ; his eyes become the same as Seth at the beginning of the Ultra
Chun-Li is the strongest and toughest woman in the world. She is so cute, disciplined and sexy. She is the BEST chinese fighter. Also, she is the most aggressive fighter than any other female fighter in the videogame.
it's highly implied that Charlie is the man who took care of Abel.
As for Charlie being Remy's dad, that's a bit more unlikely. Considering that Capcom officially stated that Remy is connected to neither Charlie or Guile.
now this rumor is almost true considering people are bring proof to the stage.
in the street fighter 4 comics you read something about abel and charlie knowing each other. but then again i haven't read it yet and i only heard about the comics from a friend of mine but i guess its worth looking into
I think Remy and Abel do have some conection with Charlie, Because in sf3ts Remy is angry because his father perfered being a warrior than to be a dad. not to mention Bison knowing Able like thet had a past, and Remy doing moves similar to Charlie's. They are connected some how and we'll learn about it in Hyper Street fighter 4 part 2. lol
you said "Because in sf3ts Remy is angry because his father perfered being a warrior than to be a dad"
now i remember guile saying ( in sfa3) that charlie was very "determined" sounds kinda the same...charlie was a "hot head" and never really listened and was going for what he wanted.
I think Abel is Charlie since Abel doesn't remember his past. And I did notice that Remy from SFIII is French too.... hmmm all these is connecting somehow, don't leave us guessing Capcom...
i was thinking that but it doesn't match, abel has way more muscle then charlie and he's taller as well. guile and charlie were both the same height and build
no it won't. they are just making him dlc so that they would play as charlie, witht he charlie mvoes not the abel moves and its just a dlc, so no it does not end the theory.
It does end the theory.. for one.. Abel looks nothing Charlie, and two if anyone paid attention, his eyes flashes black when he does his ultra.. he has something to do with Seth.
abel actually do look like charlie if u look closer, his hair for instance it has that foward arrow thing that charlie had, only shorter wich was probably caused by the explosion. his scars were also probably caused by the explosion. and in his prolouge when he has a flashback of when he got injured, it was fire all over the place also done by the explosion. there is a huge chance that this is Charlie.
Remy should be a bit young at this time and Capcom says Remy has no connection with Guile or Charlie. So it would be anti-climatic (and a bit humorous) if Abel answered Guile's question "I saw some young teen who's unrelated to you and Charlie do a Somersault lookalike".
The subject was Abel seeing the Somersault kick before meeting Guile. You brought up Remy ( who Capcom says has no relation to Charlie/Guile). If Abel's referring to Remy, either
A. Capcom will have a loose and crap story here for Guile because Remy just coincedentally fights like Charlie/Guile.
Check Abel's head. The all are pale yellow except the ones on the center. I think he is Charlie. Guile's Prologue, Guile got a dog tag whose name is Nash Charlie. in Japan, Charlie's name is Nash. Anyways, I think Abel is Charlie. Just have to wait for Capcom's official storyline to be sure. I just had the game here in Japan, Cant wait for RE 5
Those same building's set ablaze in this Prologue are in Rose's Prologue. I'm guessing that's the building from Alpha 3... (But in Alpha 3 the base was underground) Abel must've been helping out with Shadaloo During the time of Alpha 3... Just guessing..
ABEL IS CHARLIE WITH AMNESIA!
wisewarrior7 1 year ago
@wisewarrior7 It could be... but Abel is french and Charlie is american, they have completely different accents and reactions to things. But they do look a like, except Abel doesn't have glasses, he appears to have a haircut, he is more muscular and wears different clothes.
TheMunchlaxboy 9 months ago
@TheMunchlaxboy Abel/Charlie just happened to have been in France.Maybe that's where the base Chrlie went to was.Who knows what Charlie would be shaped like in Street Fighter 4 graphics,and I'd expect him to be wearing different clothes.His would have probably been all torn up when the mercanaries found him in the ruined Shadaloo base.I don't know if those glasses Charlie wore were for reading or not.He took them off when he fought.
wisewarrior7 9 months ago
I guess it's normal in japan for a 7foot tall guy to walk around in short shorts
Ezekiel2012 1 year ago
@Ezekiel2012 yeah and Chun li's outfit is standard issue for interpol agents
Zain844 1 year ago
I think this two should make out or something due to that end smile. :D
SevRyan 1 year ago
Abel looks like that dude from the new teenage mutant ninja turtles cartoon...
Chemizon 1 year ago
Abel's smile at the end...xD
Julienfun 1 year ago
For all those who think the man that saved abel is charlie ...think again. Remeber in his rival fight cutscene with guile he said that he had seen that move before, he may as well have seen it when seth was doing it before his memory became all fuzzy.
dublos86 2 years ago
This might be a different topic but I think the new character for SSF4 could be named Cain because in the bible Abel Seth and Cain are brothers so maybe Cain could be like another failed experiment...Right?
BigOnum81 2 years ago
idk but abel looks like fedor emelianenko lol
jamesrick2007 2 years ago
interesting idea. I like it.
poster12345678 2 years ago
Does anyone other than me think that Abel is actually the character Joe? They're both blonde and have the same build, along with a similar fighting style. Also "Joe" is a common alternative name for an unknown person "John dOE" anyone agree?
yeaimawesome77 2 years ago
... Joe had a slim build and was a kick boxer. That, and Abel is a genetically engineered fighter. Not Joe.
TheMicker 2 years ago 2
fedor emelianeko!
TheGustota 2 years ago 3
i've never understood why they are just randomly standing in the middle of a big road. I mean, she's surprised by Abel, but he's a giant scarred muscular man dressed in a martial arts outfit standing in the middle of road and she reacts like "oh, didn't know someone was there!"
ah shur :D
sparkydeltorro 2 years ago 22
@sparkydeltorro she had her eyes closed
DanielSmith604 1 year ago
Chun Li is so hot
I want to fuck her xDDD
FRANKMANNACO700 2 years ago 4
Ok,this might sound ignorant, but I don't know many blond French men.
Also, if he was based on a Ukrainian MMA fighter, don't you think Abel should be from Ukraine and not France?
nikkorz 2 years ago
I think Abel needs a hug.
nikkorz 2 years ago 19
@nikkorz gotta agree :( poor Abel
slamshotstudios 1 year ago
Ok,here's my theory.
Bison created Abel using DNA from both Seth and Charlie.
I know it's farfetched, but didn't Bison have Charlie kidnapped at one point? He could have taken a small sample and used it to create Abel.
And my second theory:
Capcom is trying to mess with our minds.
Third Theory:
Charlie saved Abel, which was already mentioned, and Abel had a hero worship moment and made himself look like Charlie.
????
nikkorz 2 years ago
Or maybe Abel is Charlie :O
ricyorb 2 years ago
I'm sort of beginning to believe this.
There's alot of similarities, the hair, the body, etc.
But since when would Charlie ever get rid of the forelock, and since when could he see perfectly without the glasses.
And when the hell did he become French?!
And of course there's that UDON comic, but that's not exactly canon, right?
nikkorz 2 years ago
Well idk but the sf4 manual says he had some sort of military training which also adds to the belief that he is indeed Charlie.
ricyorb 2 years ago
That military training could have possibly been from Charlie and the other mercenaries?
nikkorz 2 years ago
I think Abel is Remy's father from Street fighter 3 series.
zztopis 2 years ago
Abel remind me of Alex from 3rd Strike because of his close range grappling techniques ..
dta333 2 years ago 2
アベルはどこに服を見つけたんだ(その色は、フランス国旗を統合)?彼は自分自身を検討する方法として、フランス人?
celaya4ever 2 years ago
Where did Abel find those clothes (whose colors integrate the French flag)? How could he consider himself as a French?
celaya4ever 2 years ago
rose, cammy,
dublos86 2 years ago
Abel may be an advanced clone of Seth ; They share some regular basic moves(if I'm right) , they have basically the same body shape. One thing to note is during Abel's Ultra ; his eyes become the same as Seth at the beginning of the Ultra
UK1976 2 years ago
Yeah thats what I noticed too
Monkgangsta 2 years ago
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Krosn 2 years ago
Chun-Li is the strongest and toughest woman in the world. She is so cute, disciplined and sexy. She is the BEST chinese fighter. Also, she is the most aggressive fighter than any other female fighter in the videogame.
celaya4ever 2 years ago 5
チュンリーは、世界で最も強力かつ堅牢な女性です。彼女は、キュ ートさとセクシーなよく訓練された 。彼女は最高の中華戦闘機です。また、彼女は、ゲーム内の他の女 性の戦闘機よりも、最も積極的な戦闘機です。
celaya4ever 2 years ago
春丽是最强大和最艰难的妇女在世界上。她是如此可爱的,有纪律的 和性感。她是最好的中文战斗机。另外,她是最积极的战斗机比其他 任何女战士在游戏中。
celaya4ever 2 years ago
Look her massive legs!!! I never seen a woman like Chun-Li with those tons of muscle in her thighs!!! She must be a olympic runner!!!
celaya4ever 2 years ago
彼女の大規模な脚を見て!私はチュンリー彼女の太ももの筋肉の方 トンで見たことのないような女!彼女はオリンピックランナーでな ければなりません!
celaya4ever 2 years ago
看看她的大腿部!我从来没有见过一个女人像春丽与那些吨的肌肉在 她的大腿!她必须是奥运会赛跑者 !
celaya4ever 2 years ago
it's highly implied that Charlie is the man who took care of Abel.
As for Charlie being Remy's dad, that's a bit more unlikely. Considering that Capcom officially stated that Remy is connected to neither Charlie or Guile.
BHN893 2 years ago
I think Charlie took care of Able before he died which has to be the reason why he has seen the Sonic Boom and Somersault Kick before.
Striker183 2 years ago 2
yeah! i heard of this theory once before
now this rumor is almost true considering people are bring proof to the stage.
in the street fighter 4 comics you read something about abel and charlie knowing each other. but then again i haven't read it yet and i only heard about the comics from a friend of mine but i guess its worth looking into
ninefangthesniper 2 years ago
ok whats the connection between those guys?? ( abel, charlie, guile, and remy)????? are all of them brothers or wad??
marvil11 2 years ago
I think Remy and Abel do have some conection with Charlie, Because in sf3ts Remy is angry because his father perfered being a warrior than to be a dad. not to mention Bison knowing Able like thet had a past, and Remy doing moves similar to Charlie's. They are connected some how and we'll learn about it in Hyper Street fighter 4 part 2. lol
akutos11 2 years ago
you said "Because in sf3ts Remy is angry because his father perfered being a warrior than to be a dad"
now i remember guile saying ( in sfa3) that charlie was very "determined" sounds kinda the same...charlie was a "hot head" and never really listened and was going for what he wanted.
sounds like remy's dad to me...
ninefangthesniper 2 years ago
No Capcom had officially stated that Remy has no connection to Guile or Charlie. He just has similar moves
Monkgangsta 2 years ago 2
perhaps there will be shadow abel?
megaman616 3 years ago
Abel has a funny eyebrowns lol
chrl007 3 years ago
Abel is one of the copies of Seth
judas7152 3 years ago
Its in his eyes
SeoulMan 3 years ago
I think Abel is Charlie since Abel doesn't remember his past. And I did notice that Remy from SFIII is French too.... hmmm all these is connecting somehow, don't leave us guessing Capcom...
bryanakafresh 3 years ago
He dont look like Charile
Nicholas121093 3 years ago
Capcom says Remy has no connection to Guile or Charlie.
metaXzero 3 years ago
i was thinking that but it doesn't match, abel has way more muscle then charlie and he's taller as well. guile and charlie were both the same height and build
andyx181x 3 years ago
No Abel isn;t Charlie. Plus Capcom said they might have DLC characters and Charlie is supposed to be one. So that will put an end to this theory
Monkgangsta 2 years ago 2
no it won't. they are just making him dlc so that they would play as charlie, witht he charlie mvoes not the abel moves and its just a dlc, so no it does not end the theory.
TheHades119 2 years ago
It does end the theory.. for one.. Abel looks nothing Charlie, and two if anyone paid attention, his eyes flashes black when he does his ultra.. he has something to do with Seth.
Monkgangsta 2 years ago 3
abel actually do look like charlie if u look closer, his hair for instance it has that foward arrow thing that charlie had, only shorter wich was probably caused by the explosion. his scars were also probably caused by the explosion. and in his prolouge when he has a flashback of when he got injured, it was fire all over the place also done by the explosion. there is a huge chance that this is Charlie.
TheHades119 2 years ago
Have you seen the Udon comic... it shows Charlie saving his life
Monkgangsta 2 years ago
If Abel is Charlie - Best character ever
If Abel is Abel - Worst character ever
SpadeHand 3 years ago
abel is charlie?
HydroAlexis 3 years ago
Abel is the best new character.
DraikRoan 3 years ago 3
Comics are non canon and is Seth's brother
KanameTousen 3 years ago
I think Abel is charlie: There is a clue about this in Street Fighter UDON comics
JackHanma 3 years ago
Abel isn't Charlie. In SF Turbo [#2?] it is revealed that Charlie saved Abel.
IrishKyokushin 3 years ago
Abel doesn't remember shit.
Remy hates all fighters because his father (ABEL?) left to become a warrior.
REmy is son of ABEL? both are french.
AlexiixelA 3 years ago 2
whoa!!! i just got this crazy thought!!!
wut if abel is charlie??? he might've cut his hair and all that other stuff
judas7152 3 years ago
Possible. But Abel claims he's seen someone else use the Somersault kick.
metaXzero 3 years ago
Also, Abel's French.
metaXzero 3 years ago
what if he was told he was french
and what if he got like one of those flashbacks
judas7152 3 years ago
Like I said, it's a possibility. But our current knowledge of Abel says.
1. He's amnesiac who's said to be French
2. He's seen the Somersault kick before meeting Guile.
This doesn't shut down "Abel=amnesiac Charlie" though.
metaXzero 3 years ago
oh ok
judas7152 3 years ago
don't forget, Remy also can use the moves and he is from France.
Linkaro2 3 years ago
Remy should be a bit young at this time and Capcom says Remy has no connection with Guile or Charlie. So it would be anti-climatic (and a bit humorous) if Abel answered Guile's question "I saw some young teen who's unrelated to you and Charlie do a Somersault lookalike".
metaXzero 3 years ago
I never stated that Remy is connected to Giloe or Charlie.
Linkaro2 3 years ago
The subject was Abel seeing the Somersault kick before meeting Guile. You brought up Remy ( who Capcom says has no relation to Charlie/Guile). If Abel's referring to Remy, either
A. Capcom will have a loose and crap story here for Guile because Remy just coincedentally fights like Charlie/Guile.
B. Capcom has to go back on their previous word.
metaXzero 3 years ago
Check Abel's head. The all are pale yellow except the ones on the center. I think he is Charlie. Guile's Prologue, Guile got a dog tag whose name is Nash Charlie. in Japan, Charlie's name is Nash. Anyways, I think Abel is Charlie. Just have to wait for Capcom's official storyline to be sure. I just had the game here in Japan, Cant wait for RE 5
TekkenXer 3 years ago
Abel is not charlie. He's most likely one of the seth clones. The man that saved him is most likely charlie
Monkgangsta 2 years ago
Those same building's set ablaze in this Prologue are in Rose's Prologue. I'm guessing that's the building from Alpha 3... (But in Alpha 3 the base was underground) Abel must've been helping out with Shadaloo During the time of Alpha 3... Just guessing..
NettaNeji 3 years ago
Play again with English subtitles please ¬¬
Yagamikun 3 years ago
Abel's theme song is wonderful.
DemonicKirishima 3 years ago
Abel's on friendly terms with Chun?
metaXzero 3 years ago
yea, supposedly he's one of the "main" good guys.
BatOtaku13 3 years ago