return to the Bible????? girl, the Bible started the Crusades, which was when both the Christians and the Muslim first began the End Times, which continues today.
except, 911 was not started by the Muslims, but was one of the US wargames gone live.
@sageb1 The Crusades were launch by Catholic Popes which forbade the reading of the Bible. The Bible itself forbids spreading God's words through the sword. As for 911, it is for sure that the USA has departed from the Bible. This separation was completed in the 1960's. Please do not consider the USA as a "Christian" nation. It is a "post-Christian" or used-to-be-Christian nation - now under God's judgment. Cheers!
@devin2231995 You watched something that could possibly force you to think very very hard. Better just pretend it's probably wrong anyway and forget it!
yeah, because the bible has never been used as a source of oppression. To battle rationalism and philosophy with mysticism and superstition is absurd.
@StevenBee2 Yes! The Bible has been used for oppression, as people are very natural at oppression! But the Bible itself is against oppression, thus the division of powers, anti-slavery, concern for the poor, etc - all biblical ideas. Rationalism? Take God out of man's worldview and there is no longer any rational reason to do good. Restraint becomes illogical. Thus you have a Mao or a Stalin. This is the natural progression of philosophy - it ultimately leads to dictatorship. Continued...
@alyosha24601 There are plenty of examples of the Bible supporting oppression and slavery in the old testament. The values closer emulating actual justice and benevolence do not really come about until the new testament. And to say that doing good is only rational in a world with God is to throw one of the oldest, lamest arguments theists throw at atheists. there are plenty of reasons and examples of atheists "doing good" for reasons other than being forced to by imaginary entities.
@StevenBee2 I agree there are examples of atheists doing good. I do not agree that atheism provides a logical reason for doing so. When atheists do well, they are borrowing from a Christian worldview! Thanks for intelligent, polite commentary.
Respond to this video... Regarding mysticism and superstition. I have seen two or three Christian miracles with my own eyes. It just takes one to invalidate a naturalistic worldview. People that look for it find it, even those that seek a supernatural dark side find it. The only way to maintain a naturalistic mindset is to refuse to open to the supernatural at all. That's been my experience. Thanks for commenting without insult; my respect to you!
@alyosha24601 People that look for it find it... that is a good way to put it. Humans are notorious for projecting their own belief systems into their observations. If you were Muslim they would have been Muslim miracles; if you were Hindi they would have been Hindi miracles. If you are going to explain everything you cannot explain as a miracle from a particular deity, then you are going to witness many "miracles".
@StevenBee2 You are correct - everyone reads in. Yet only one example of a violation of physical law (by any spirit, deity, ghost, or whatever) invalidates a naturalist (atheist included) worldview. As for which deity, I pick the one with fulfilled prophecy, correct history & science, and mathematical pattern in his book. Fulfilled prophecy is only possible when the originator lies outside time. Krishna & Mohammed just don't measure up. Thanks for commentary. You are a genius.
return to the Bible????? girl, the Bible started the Crusades, which was when both the Christians and the Muslim first began the End Times, which continues today.
except, 911 was not started by the Muslims, but was one of the US wargames gone live.
sageb1 3 months ago
@sageb1 The Crusades were launch by Catholic Popes which forbade the reading of the Bible. The Bible itself forbids spreading God's words through the sword. As for 911, it is for sure that the USA has departed from the Bible. This separation was completed in the 1960's. Please do not consider the USA as a "Christian" nation. It is a "post-Christian" or used-to-be-Christian nation - now under God's judgment. Cheers!
alyosha24601 3 months ago
what the hell did i just watch?
devin2231995 7 months ago
@devin2231995 You watched something that could possibly force you to think very very hard. Better just pretend it's probably wrong anyway and forget it!
alyosha24601 7 months ago
yeah, because the bible has never been used as a source of oppression. To battle rationalism and philosophy with mysticism and superstition is absurd.
StevenBee2 7 months ago
@StevenBee2 Yes! The Bible has been used for oppression, as people are very natural at oppression! But the Bible itself is against oppression, thus the division of powers, anti-slavery, concern for the poor, etc - all biblical ideas. Rationalism? Take God out of man's worldview and there is no longer any rational reason to do good. Restraint becomes illogical. Thus you have a Mao or a Stalin. This is the natural progression of philosophy - it ultimately leads to dictatorship. Continued...
alyosha24601 7 months ago
@alyosha24601 There are plenty of examples of the Bible supporting oppression and slavery in the old testament. The values closer emulating actual justice and benevolence do not really come about until the new testament. And to say that doing good is only rational in a world with God is to throw one of the oldest, lamest arguments theists throw at atheists. there are plenty of reasons and examples of atheists "doing good" for reasons other than being forced to by imaginary entities.
StevenBee2 7 months ago
@StevenBee2 I agree there are examples of atheists doing good. I do not agree that atheism provides a logical reason for doing so. When atheists do well, they are borrowing from a Christian worldview! Thanks for intelligent, polite commentary.
alyosha24601 7 months ago
Respond to this video... Regarding mysticism and superstition. I have seen two or three Christian miracles with my own eyes. It just takes one to invalidate a naturalistic worldview. People that look for it find it, even those that seek a supernatural dark side find it. The only way to maintain a naturalistic mindset is to refuse to open to the supernatural at all. That's been my experience. Thanks for commenting without insult; my respect to you!
alyosha24601 7 months ago
@alyosha24601 People that look for it find it... that is a good way to put it. Humans are notorious for projecting their own belief systems into their observations. If you were Muslim they would have been Muslim miracles; if you were Hindi they would have been Hindi miracles. If you are going to explain everything you cannot explain as a miracle from a particular deity, then you are going to witness many "miracles".
StevenBee2 7 months ago
@StevenBee2 You are correct - everyone reads in. Yet only one example of a violation of physical law (by any spirit, deity, ghost, or whatever) invalidates a naturalist (atheist included) worldview. As for which deity, I pick the one with fulfilled prophecy, correct history & science, and mathematical pattern in his book. Fulfilled prophecy is only possible when the originator lies outside time. Krishna & Mohammed just don't measure up. Thanks for commentary. You are a genius.
alyosha24601 7 months ago