@Hosanaime please source where you are getting this standard from. I always learned that "dead people don't breathe" so if the patient has no pulse what good is CPR going to do? I will double check this but if you find a source, please add it if it says what you are saying and I will make changes accordingly. Thanks
@josephmedman Hi Joe, thanks for replying, but its still unclear: Amiodarone is a pharmacological cardioversion agent, we use electrical cardioversion when the patient is unstable, my question is, when do we use Amiodarone then? where does Amiodarone fall in the algorithm? it cant fall with b-blockers or ca blockers since Amiodarone is NOT a rate control agent like those drugs, rather, its a rhythm control agent (i.e. cardioverter)
Its written there under stable.patients you use beta.blockers or calcium.ch. blockers if the patient is stable. Amiodarone is.not first line at all unless the patient has a history of heart failure. The whole first column and first few minutes.of the algorithm isbtalking about medications in rate control what do you mean?
hmmm, just wanted to double check on something you said at 1:44, if a patient is asthmatic they are usually not given beta blockers (contraindication)
@Ana8Lisa you're right, beta blockers are contraindicated in asthmatic patients because they cause bronchospasms. Calcium channel blockers are the first choice.
of course i did..that is what is written and said in the first column to slow the rate down to 100 you use meds such as beta blockers and ca channel blockers to slow rate to <100..please listen again..
At 0:39 you said the normal heart rate is (220-age); however this is actually the formula for maximum heart rate (the so called "Fox & Haskell formula").
@josephmedman Hi Joe, thanks for replying, but its still unclear: Amiodarone is a pharmacological cardioversion agent, we use electrical cardioversion when the patient is unstable, my question is, when do we use Amiodarone then? where does Amiodarone fall in the algorithm? it cant fall with b-blockers or ca blockers since Amiodarone is NOT a rate control agent like those drugs, rather, its a rhythm control agent (i.e. cardioverter)
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diablo335533 4 months ago
It's NOT spontaneous cardioversion if you use drugs. Spontaneous means, it happenned out of the clear blue with no known influence.
hopeso 9 months ago
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Hosanaime 1 year ago
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Patient has no pulse, suddenly becomes uncounscious and monitor shows AFIB, we shoud go ahead with CPR , might be included in algorithm.
Hosanaime 1 year ago
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Hosanaime 1 year ago
@Hosanaime please source where you are getting this standard from. I always learned that "dead people don't breathe" so if the patient has no pulse what good is CPR going to do? I will double check this but if you find a source, please add it if it says what you are saying and I will make changes accordingly. Thanks
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@josephmedman Hi Joe, thanks for replying, but its still unclear: Amiodarone is a pharmacological cardioversion agent, we use electrical cardioversion when the patient is unstable, my question is, when do we use Amiodarone then? where does Amiodarone fall in the algorithm? it cant fall with b-blockers or ca blockers since Amiodarone is NOT a rate control agent like those drugs, rather, its a rhythm control agent (i.e. cardioverter)
docoftheworld 1 year ago
Its written there under stable.patients you use beta.blockers or calcium.ch. blockers if the patient is stable. Amiodarone is.not first line at all unless the patient has a history of heart failure. The whole first column and first few minutes.of the algorithm isbtalking about medications in rate control what do you mean?
josephmedman 1 year ago
what about pharmacological rhythm control (Amiodarone etc)??? when does it play role in management in this algorithm?!!?
docoftheworld 1 year ago
There is a mistake. If the patient is asthmatic, beta blockers are not the first line of therapy. They can exacerbate the asthma.
arbagy 1 year ago 3
hmmm, just wanted to double check on something you said at 1:44, if a patient is asthmatic they are usually not given beta blockers (contraindication)
Ana8Lisa 1 year ago
@Ana8Lisa you're right, beta blockers are contraindicated in asthmatic patients because they cause bronchospasms. Calcium channel blockers are the first choice.
AmbivalentConsumers 1 year ago
why u did not use medication for cardiovesion!?
drapolohi 2 years ago
of course i did..that is what is written and said in the first column to slow the rate down to 100 you use meds such as beta blockers and ca channel blockers to slow rate to <100..please listen again..
josephmedman 2 years ago
@josephmedman no sorry i heard that ! but i ment medication for conversion like Procainamide Amiodarone etc ?
drapolohi 2 years ago
At 0:39 you said the normal heart rate is (220-age); however this is actually the formula for maximum heart rate (the so called "Fox & Haskell formula").
LeSeigneurDuMalin 2 years ago
yes he meant maximum normal more that than could be A fib.
drapolohi 2 years ago
you are absolutely right..sorry about that..it wil lbe revised this weekend..
josephmedman 2 years ago
@josephmedman Hi Joe, thanks for replying, but its still unclear: Amiodarone is a pharmacological cardioversion agent, we use electrical cardioversion when the patient is unstable, my question is, when do we use Amiodarone then? where does Amiodarone fall in the algorithm? it cant fall with b-blockers or ca blockers since Amiodarone is NOT a rate control agent like those drugs, rather, its a rhythm control agent (i.e. cardioverter)
docoftheworld 1 year ago