Brother! One point that I would like to add. If the questioner is not aware of the evidences and he is going for the 2nd or 3rd option, then he MUST be sincere to select the scholar based on the scholars level of knowledge and piousness and NOT ones own whims and desires, like 'Saying, Ok....I have known this scholar for 20 years, he is good in giving lectures so I will take his answer'.
Blindly following is still consider prohibited by vast majority of the scholars
@ahmadaliya No, Let qualified scholars do that for you its their job. and a muslim should always be in the process of seeking knowledge so there is no issue in spending your life in learning one hadith.
The statement "When a Hadeeth is found to be Saheeh, then this is my madhab" is obviously not for us ordinary Muslims, otherwise if ordianry Muslims open the book of Hadith and start deriving rules by himself then there will be Millions of Madhabs so it is basically directed at people who are qualified to do Ijtihad. On the contray, I do agree that one should reject opinion if a qualified scholar gives very strong proof.
By the way who told you that from 14 centuries the tradition of fiqh groupism was there,can you please tell us which year did the hanafi group started.and when did the other groups also.
Assalaam Alaykum wr wb: it is great to see this video again after such a long time (as this issue continues to be a stain upon the unity of this Ummah). however, the advice given (alhamduliLLAH) should also apply to those who adhere to the salafi manhaj in that, they should not do fanatical taqleed towards their scholars (particularly on account of fame and reputation) either...for some of their scholars truly may not be following that which they preach.
O! People Open ur eyes to Quran (6:159)(23:53-54)(42:13-14)(22:78) (7:3)(6:115-116)(7:153)
Methodology of Salaf (is the Saved Sect), we follow 4 imams 60% and many other scholars 10-20% as well, BUT only we follow muhammad S.A.W 100%, bcz all other ppl made mistakes
O! People Open ur eyes to Quran (6:159)(23:53-54)(42:13-14)(22:78) (7:3)(6:115-116)(7:153)
Methodology of Salaf (is the Saved Sect), we follow 4 imams 60% and many other scholars 10-20% as well, BUT only we follow muhammad S.A.W 100%, bcz all other ppl made mistakes
The fact that a student studied with a madhhab does not mean that he cannot go beyond it if he finds sound evidence elsewhere; the only one who stubbornly clings to a particular madhhab (regardless of the evidence) is one who lacking in religious commitment and intellect, or he is doing that because of partisan attachment to his madhhab.
@Synergistik; JazakAllaahu khayr for the nice discussion akhi. But it seems that I have to stop us from discussing this matter further. It seems from what you have replied, and looking at the various videos on your YouTube channel, this discussion between us will amount to no benefit. This is an endless argument.
Hadiths must be accompanied with the fiqh, before it can be acted on. We need to know how it relates to other hadiths, the quran, the opinions of the sahaba, the tabieen, taba tabieen and the salaf. We need to look at their practices. Hadith is not fiqh. They are different sciences. Hadiths are not manuals of Islam. People must understand what it truly means to derives rulings from the Quran and Sunnah, and how to follow it. None of this is provided by this person.
@BeMyBro Yes, add this to it: You can't derive rulings without a methodology. That methodology ITSELF must be based on Principles of the Quran and Sunnah, and must have a chain of transmission authentically showing it was the methdology of the Sahaba, tabieen, taba tabieen, and salaf. One hadith = a ruling, is hardly a methodology. But this is all I see from this video. What about the 1000s of ayahs, and 100000s of other hadiths? An over simplistic ruling at best. Our deen deserives better.
@BeMyBro He indeed gives a ruling with regard to eating camel meat and performing wudu after, citing a hadith for his stance. This ruling was stated in the context he described (i.e. being with others who follow a madhab). His explanation is also problematic. What does he think Imam Shafi's rulings are based on? He's citing a hadith, they are citing a ruling. I choose the ruling, because I'm sure it's based on Quran and Sunnah. That's the beauty of the madhabs. And this video shows that.
@BeMyBro Most modern scholarship is a hodgepdge of Hanbali and Shafi' fiqh which they select at their whim. But you're missing the point. While his opinion may coincide with those of the Madhabs, he's not saying that. He demarcates it as a ruling directly taken from a hadith, rather than through the rigorous fiqh of the Hanbali or Shafi' Madhabs, and infers a superlative for this method. It may be the same ruling, so why the different route? It's not clear.
Akhi, I think you refuse to understand that we follow the madhabs but we dont stick to one of them. all rulings and sayings in the video is in regard to the madhab sayings. if you cant see that then im sorry i cant force you to understand.
@BeMyBro The point is the method described in the video is inconsistent and not in accordance to the way Ahl Sunnah wa Jammah. It's nice and dandy to say you follow madhab here, Quran and Sunnah there, but there doesn't seem to be a consistent, comprehensive method underlying this, and so it's ambiguous. This had nothing to do with understand, this is the way it is. Watching the video several times only confirms it. It speaks for itself. Salam
Dear brother, wasn't Imam Shafi' a student of Imam Muhammad ash-Shaybani who was a student of Imam Abu Haneefa? If taqleed of a madhab was obligatory for EVERYONE in an absolute sense, why did Imam Shafi' ended up making his own madhab? Imam Ahmad was also a student of Imam Shafi', so then why does Imam Ahmad's ruling contrary to that of Imam Shafi' if taqleed is absolutely obligatory?
@HoChoProductions Salam. The simple answer is they were all mujtahid Imams in their own right. They were students of one another, and at the peak of their knowledge were all able to derive rulings from the evidences. Similar instances can be found in other fields, such as Hadith. Imam Bukhari once said the likes of "I've learned more from Imam Tirmidhi then he has learned from me". Tirmidhi was the student of Bukhari.
I think you fail to understand that taqleed is different levels. You seem to imply that every Muslim on the face of the Earth is a layman. We have people who are mujtahids currently and I'm speaking in relative terms. Compared to the general masses right now, these scholars are mujtahid. Even though they might not be as knowledgeable as the four Imams of fiqh.
@HoChoProductions Your last sentence says it all. The four Imams are unanimously agreed upon by Ahl Sunnah wa Jammah to be rightly guided in transmitting the practices of this deen, and they have endured for over 14 centuries. And RELATIVE to the knowledge these Imams and their students have, we're all laymen. The great Imams of Hadith were muqallids. Yes their are levels of ijtihad, but they must all follow the transmitted methodology, not go their own way as our Salafi bretheren do.
Our Salafi brethren do not go their own way. Subhan'Allaah what an accusation. Salafiyyah are the most passionate about following the scholars. You seem to miss the point, I am not disregarding the Usul ul-Fiqh of the madhabs. The great Imams of Hadeeth were not muqallids, subhan'Allaah, fear Allaah with regards to what you say about the scholars. Imam Bukhari was a muhaddith as well as a faqih in his own right.
Yes, relative to the knowledge of these Imams and their students we are all layman. Like I said I am not disregarding the methodologies established by the four Imams. However, relatively speaking with OUR TIMES, you cannot say Mufti Taqi 'Uthmani is the same level as the general masses of the Muslims. You cannot say that Shaykh ibn 'Uthaymeen (raheemu'Allaah) is the same level as the general masses of the Muslims. Or any other scholar in our times.
@Synergistik; You seem to have a misunderstanding of Salafiyyah. In essence, all Muslims must be upon the manhaj of the Salaf. Those who particularly ascribe to this manhaj in recent times have never gone 'their own way'. We stick to the scholars, especially those who are known for their knowledge. I do not understand where you get this from? That Salafiyyah go their own way. Allaahu musta'an.
@HoChoProductions The difference between Sunnis and Salafis is one of methodology. It's all good and great to say one sticks to scholars and follows the Salaf. But in the realization of this there are significant differences in the methodology and understanding of how to take the fiqh from the them. A few decades of Salafi dogma can't overshadow 14 centuries of the traditional understanding of Islamic scholarship and practices.
Don't get me wrong, I am not denying the role of madhabs. I just don't see why a taqleed of a madhab is an obligation for a layman? I know that the 'ijma is that taqleed of a scholar is an obligation for a layman but not a madhab. How can a layman who follows the Hanafee madhab differentiate a ruling between Imam Abu Haneefa, Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad ash-Shaybani when they differ on a particular issue? What does he do? Pick and choose, follow his whims and desires?
@BeMyBro And the Prophet never labelled himself a Sunni. You're missing the point. They way of ahl sunnah wa jammah is to make taqleed, following one of the classical schools of jurisprudence, as this ensures we are truly following the Quran and Sunni in the way it was followed and meant to be followed. This also protects as from those who go directly to the sources themselves deriving rulings based on methodology that just doesn't meet the stringent requirements deserving of this deen of ours.
This is a common misconception amongst modern day scholars, which don't have fiqh. The hadiths being Sahih in itself is not sufficient to take as a ruling, but must be analyzed with the frame work of the understanding of the Sahaba, Tabieen, Taba Tabieen and the Mujtahid Imams. Devoid of that how can we be sure we're following the sunnah, rather than just a single hadith?
Love you, dear brother thanks for the video.. Those that do taqleed are sometimes very harsh to us that do ittiba3. Sometimes I get very annoyed about theyre ignorance and dissrespect for sincere seekers of truth. Always putting them down like no one has more knowledge than the mathahib alarba3a. I ask Allah for thabaat and sincerety in our path.
Salam Aleikum bro. I get the same harsh treatment from some Salafi brothers, but they are my muslim brothers and I love all muslims, salafi or hanbali or hanafi,etc. We are all muslims, but we have our differences-insha Allah we can accept our small differneces, we have so much in common. May Allah bless you and I hope you don't get harsh treatment from anyone. We are muslims first, and our differences are small, please keep it in mind.
Everything mentioned in this video is in accordance to what the 4 imams have said and believed, unlike the extremist muqalideen they cannot backup their fanatic blind-following with the words of Allah, Prophet, or even the imams. Never did the imams mention anything about following everything they said being wajib, but rather they said the opposite.
Islam is simple, you don't need to follow or know an entire madhab to be a good Muslim.
@SFAvfx See this is the problem bro. Calling your fellow brothers extremists. The misunderstanding is in this: the muqallids don't say you can't take different things from different madhabs. You CAN. But you should have a justifiable reason. Otherwise it means you are suggesting that the reasoning process (methodology) applied to derive rulings can be valid one day and not the other. If its valid for fatwa A, then its valid for B. Anyway, if people have reasons, like, they know the >>>
methodology wasn't applied for a certain ruling for example, or they know for sure that the madhabs didn't have access to a hadeeth, then they would be justified in following the opinion of a different madhab.
Either way, they can STILL take from different madhabs if they are 100% sure they are not following their nafs to only pick rulings that are easiest.
Saying the imams didn't have access to certain hadeeth is a non sequitor because madhabs are not about the founding imams, but they are >>
about the collective opinion of all the scholars of a certain madhab culminating in the present times. In fact, there are actually Hanafi rulings which contradict the position of Imam Abu Hanifa r.a.
The sheikh here says: in matters of unimportance does madhab issues arise. I agree it is on ambiguous matters. However, I wouldn't say it's unimportant, but we still tolerate each other because we can't know for certain.
Only when one is called an extremist muqallid does it become an issue.
If these are unimportant issues, then surely it's fine to stick to one madhab if one does have complete trust in the methodology of a madhab (applied over a thousand years by many scholars). It's not necessarily about confidence in the founder of the madhab, though that wouldn't invalidate my point.
Similarly, if these are unimportant matters, then one could choose. We differ on if it's important. Ambiguity != unimportance. However, muqallids don't call ghayr muqallids "extremists".
My point isn't to spam bro. I hope you don't hate me for spamming. :-)
The point is, if the sheikh who one takes guidance from knows the methodologies of the madhabs and then declares a certain fatwa, which could even contradict one's madhab, that's absolutely fine. You can take that ruling and apply it in your life, since a layman can't be expected to know better than a scholar.
That's the issue. Does the sheikh apply the methodologies, or does he blindly accept everything in Bukhari/Muslim?
I'm not saying the sahih Bkukhari & Muslim collections aren't sahih. They ARE. However, there are also saheeh hadeeth which aren't in these collections, probably for similar reasons to what is ascribed to the imams of the madhabs, ie imam Bukhari may not have come across certain ahadeeth. Nobody is suggesting he did bad scholarship, but it's possible he never came across certain sahih hadeeth. When you have two sahih hadeeths, one in Bukhari and one out, methodology is used to derive preference.
Let us agree to tolerate each other and consider each other as brothers. We all agree that madhab issue is on ambiguous matters. Let's not call each other extremists and lets not insist that we have to agree with each other on every matter. As long as we agree on the aqeeda, that's the main thing. Madhabs CAN contain mistakes. SELF-IJTIHAD is also risky. As long as we are sincere, then Allah will judge as all.
Brother, I didn't mean all the Muslims who follow a madhab are extremists. In-fact I know brothers who follow a madhab, but they also follow some rulings from another madhab because they feel it is closer to the truth and not out of merely following their nafs. You apparently agree with not just following one madhab, but some muqalideen don't agree with crossing madhahib.
The point of contention is that there is no theoretical proof binding every Muslim to follow a single madhab.
allah is great.allah creat such fitna e salafia in the land of prophet muhammad saw
badinhaq 3 days ago
Brother! One point that I would like to add. If the questioner is not aware of the evidences and he is going for the 2nd or 3rd option, then he MUST be sincere to select the scholar based on the scholars level of knowledge and piousness and NOT ones own whims and desires, like 'Saying, Ok....I have known this scholar for 20 years, he is good in giving lectures so I will take his answer'.
Blindly following is still consider prohibited by vast majority of the scholars
warriorb0y 3 weeks ago
@ahmadaliya No, Let qualified scholars do that for you its their job. and a muslim should always be in the process of seeking knowledge so there is no issue in spending your life in learning one hadith.
BeMyBro 2 months ago
The statement "When a Hadeeth is found to be Saheeh, then this is my madhab" is obviously not for us ordinary Muslims, otherwise if ordianry Muslims open the book of Hadith and start deriving rules by himself then there will be Millions of Madhabs so it is basically directed at people who are qualified to do Ijtihad. On the contray, I do agree that one should reject opinion if a qualified scholar gives very strong proof.
ByChoiceMuslim 2 months ago
AllaahuAkbar,
Barak Allaahu feekum for sharing.
naarakyuu 2 months ago
@Synergistic<
Please note Allah has put love in our heart for all the great imams of ahlus-sunnah.
May allah bless and exalt them.Ameen
eisahussain 4 months ago
@Synergistic<
By the way who told you that from 14 centuries the tradition of fiqh groupism was there,can you please tell us which year did the hanafi group started.and when did the other groups also.
eisahussain 4 months ago
As Salaam aleykum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuh
masha Allah
Book = Al Quran Al Kareem
Suunah = The way of our Beloved Prophet Mohammad Sallalaahu Aleyhi wa Sallam
Jazaka Allah kheiran for sharing
wasalaam aleykum warahmtullahi wabarakaatuh
WeBorn2DieAnyTime 5 months ago
Assalaam Alaykum wr wb: it is great to see this video again after such a long time (as this issue continues to be a stain upon the unity of this Ummah). however, the advice given (alhamduliLLAH) should also apply to those who adhere to the salafi manhaj in that, they should not do fanatical taqleed towards their scholars (particularly on account of fame and reputation) either...for some of their scholars truly may not be following that which they preach.
Mr1Fox9 7 months ago
may Allah reward this brother,ameen. keep up the great work saudi brothers!
ummkoko 8 months ago
Assalaamu'alaikum
''When a hadeeth is found to be saheeh, then that is my madhhab.'' - Imam Abu Hanifa (raheemahullaah).
Maybe Imam Ash-Shaafi'ee (raheemahullaah) also said that statement, i'm not sure, i've not read that anywhere.
But anyway, all the imams called to the same thing - to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam)!
saeed1602 9 months ago
@siamfd201 Im not saudi. but saudi arabia is one of the most developed muslim countries around. at any rate this has nothing to do with the video.
BeMyBro 10 months ago
@siamfd201 Its recommended to leave your prejudices at the door Sir.
BeMyBro 10 months ago
its so quick i can not keep up.barakllaho fik
KhanZazai 1 year ago
@KhanZazai
Wa feek barak Allah.
You can click the pause button to stop and read. that's what i do.
BeMyBro 1 year ago 2
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O! People Open ur eyes to Quran (6:159)(23:53-54)(42:13-14)(22:78) (7:3)(6:115-116)(7:153)
Methodology of Salaf (is the Saved Sect), we follow 4 imams 60% and many other scholars 10-20% as well, BUT only we follow muhammad S.A.W 100%, bcz all other ppl made mistakes
1st madhab=shia! 1st hadith book =Al-Kafi, FITNA 4m yahudis = Abdullah-ibn-saba, 1st imam = ja'far, 1st fiqh=Ja'friya
shadushah 1 year ago
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Brother, they made all ur msgs SPAM, :/
"isn't it Allah's right to join them with dajjal"
O! People Open ur eyes to Quran (6:159)(23:53-54)(42:13-14)(22:78) (7:3)(6:115-116)(7:153)
Methodology of Salaf (is the Saved Sect), we follow 4 imams 60% and many other scholars 10-20% as well, BUT only we follow muhammad S.A.W 100%, bcz all other ppl made mistakes
1st madhab=shia! 1st hadith book =Al-Kafi, FITNA 4m yahudis = Abdullah-ibn-saba, 1st imam = ja'far, 1st fiqh=Ja'friya
shadushah 1 year ago
beautiful, truthful and to the point.
may Allah reward you whoever made this video, its going on my favourites for sure,
abdussamad002 1 year ago 2
Tablighi Jamaat Exposed
TheTableeghisareliar 1 year ago
@TheTableeghisareliar May Allah guide you
kh4n5 1 year ago
The fact that a student studied with a madhhab does not mean that he cannot go beyond it if he finds sound evidence elsewhere; the only one who stubbornly clings to a particular madhhab (regardless of the evidence) is one who lacking in religious commitment and intellect, or he is doing that because of partisan attachment to his madhhab.
TheTableeghisareliar 1 year ago
@Synergistik; JazakAllaahu khayr for the nice discussion akhi. But it seems that I have to stop us from discussing this matter further. It seems from what you have replied, and looking at the various videos on your YouTube channel, this discussion between us will amount to no benefit. This is an endless argument.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
Hadiths must be accompanied with the fiqh, before it can be acted on. We need to know how it relates to other hadiths, the quran, the opinions of the sahaba, the tabieen, taba tabieen and the salaf. We need to look at their practices. Hadith is not fiqh. They are different sciences. Hadiths are not manuals of Islam. People must understand what it truly means to derives rulings from the Quran and Sunnah, and how to follow it. None of this is provided by this person.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik Because you cant derive rulings unless your a mujtahid.
Fiqh and Aqeda are derived from the Quran and hadith.
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro Yes, add this to it: You can't derive rulings without a methodology. That methodology ITSELF must be based on Principles of the Quran and Sunnah, and must have a chain of transmission authentically showing it was the methdology of the Sahaba, tabieen, taba tabieen, and salaf. One hadith = a ruling, is hardly a methodology. But this is all I see from this video. What about the 1000s of ayahs, and 100000s of other hadiths? An over simplistic ruling at best. Our deen deserives better.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik Obviously you do not know the methodology of the salaf.
This video gives an example of a situation, not a ruling.
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro He indeed gives a ruling with regard to eating camel meat and performing wudu after, citing a hadith for his stance. This ruling was stated in the context he described (i.e. being with others who follow a madhab). His explanation is also problematic. What does he think Imam Shafi's rulings are based on? He's citing a hadith, they are citing a ruling. I choose the ruling, because I'm sure it's based on Quran and Sunnah. That's the beauty of the madhabs. And this video shows that.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik
No,
you failed to realise that he didnt pull the ruling from his pocket.
This is the saying of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal as in (Hanbali madhab)
and Imam al-Shafiee had to sayings on this issue the later being that if the hadith regarding camel meat was authentic then I agree with it.
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro Most modern scholarship is a hodgepdge of Hanbali and Shafi' fiqh which they select at their whim. But you're missing the point. While his opinion may coincide with those of the Madhabs, he's not saying that. He demarcates it as a ruling directly taken from a hadith, rather than through the rigorous fiqh of the Hanbali or Shafi' Madhabs, and infers a superlative for this method. It may be the same ruling, so why the different route? It's not clear.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik
Akhi, I think you refuse to understand that we follow the madhabs but we dont stick to one of them. all rulings and sayings in the video is in regard to the madhab sayings. if you cant see that then im sorry i cant force you to understand.
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro The point is the method described in the video is inconsistent and not in accordance to the way Ahl Sunnah wa Jammah. It's nice and dandy to say you follow madhab here, Quran and Sunnah there, but there doesn't seem to be a consistent, comprehensive method underlying this, and so it's ambiguous. This had nothing to do with understand, this is the way it is. Watching the video several times only confirms it. It speaks for itself. Salam
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik
Dear brother, wasn't Imam Shafi' a student of Imam Muhammad ash-Shaybani who was a student of Imam Abu Haneefa? If taqleed of a madhab was obligatory for EVERYONE in an absolute sense, why did Imam Shafi' ended up making his own madhab? Imam Ahmad was also a student of Imam Shafi', so then why does Imam Ahmad's ruling contrary to that of Imam Shafi' if taqleed is absolutely obligatory?
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@HoChoProductions Salam. The simple answer is they were all mujtahid Imams in their own right. They were students of one another, and at the peak of their knowledge were all able to derive rulings from the evidences. Similar instances can be found in other fields, such as Hadith. Imam Bukhari once said the likes of "I've learned more from Imam Tirmidhi then he has learned from me". Tirmidhi was the student of Bukhari.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik
I think you fail to understand that taqleed is different levels. You seem to imply that every Muslim on the face of the Earth is a layman. We have people who are mujtahids currently and I'm speaking in relative terms. Compared to the general masses right now, these scholars are mujtahid. Even though they might not be as knowledgeable as the four Imams of fiqh.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@HoChoProductions Your last sentence says it all. The four Imams are unanimously agreed upon by Ahl Sunnah wa Jammah to be rightly guided in transmitting the practices of this deen, and they have endured for over 14 centuries. And RELATIVE to the knowledge these Imams and their students have, we're all laymen. The great Imams of Hadith were muqallids. Yes their are levels of ijtihad, but they must all follow the transmitted methodology, not go their own way as our Salafi bretheren do.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik
Our Salafi brethren do not go their own way. Subhan'Allaah what an accusation. Salafiyyah are the most passionate about following the scholars. You seem to miss the point, I am not disregarding the Usul ul-Fiqh of the madhabs. The great Imams of Hadeeth were not muqallids, subhan'Allaah, fear Allaah with regards to what you say about the scholars. Imam Bukhari was a muhaddith as well as a faqih in his own right.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@HoChoProductions Like I said, the Salafi go their own way =)
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik; Where is the proof in this statement that you say? That the Salafi go their own way. Give us a clear example.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@Synergistik
Yes, relative to the knowledge of these Imams and their students we are all layman. Like I said I am not disregarding the methodologies established by the four Imams. However, relatively speaking with OUR TIMES, you cannot say Mufti Taqi 'Uthmani is the same level as the general masses of the Muslims. You cannot say that Shaykh ibn 'Uthaymeen (raheemu'Allaah) is the same level as the general masses of the Muslims. Or any other scholar in our times.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@HoChoProductions I never said that. =)
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik; I'm giving an example, the statement was never meant to imply that you said anything.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@Synergistik; You seem to have a misunderstanding of Salafiyyah. In essence, all Muslims must be upon the manhaj of the Salaf. Those who particularly ascribe to this manhaj in recent times have never gone 'their own way'. We stick to the scholars, especially those who are known for their knowledge. I do not understand where you get this from? That Salafiyyah go their own way. Allaahu musta'an.
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
@HoChoProductions The difference between Sunnis and Salafis is one of methodology. It's all good and great to say one sticks to scholars and follows the Salaf. But in the realization of this there are significant differences in the methodology and understanding of how to take the fiqh from the them. A few decades of Salafi dogma can't overshadow 14 centuries of the traditional understanding of Islamic scholarship and practices.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik
Don't get me wrong, I am not denying the role of madhabs. I just don't see why a taqleed of a madhab is an obligation for a layman? I know that the 'ijma is that taqleed of a scholar is an obligation for a layman but not a madhab. How can a layman who follows the Hanafee madhab differentiate a ruling between Imam Abu Haneefa, Imam Abu Yusuf and Imam Muhammad ash-Shaybani when they differ on a particular issue? What does he do? Pick and choose, follow his whims and desires?
HoChoProductions 1 year ago
what was said by imaam malik at 4:22 was aimed at mujtahids and their students who reached that level, not laymen like you and I. Is that true akhi?
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO
Yes, we never said everyone does his own ijtihad.
Mujtahids however do not label themselves as hanafi shafai maliki hanbali etc
as a result of the saying of imam Malik alhamdulillah
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro
Do you do taqleed?
Oo786oO 1 year ago
@Oo786oO
yes, such as the sheikh explained and not such as some brothers do.
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro And the Prophet never labelled himself a Sunni. You're missing the point. They way of ahl sunnah wa jammah is to make taqleed, following one of the classical schools of jurisprudence, as this ensures we are truly following the Quran and Sunni in the way it was followed and meant to be followed. This also protects as from those who go directly to the sources themselves deriving rulings based on methodology that just doesn't meet the stringent requirements deserving of this deen of ours.
Synergistik 1 year ago
This is a common misconception amongst modern day scholars, which don't have fiqh. The hadiths being Sahih in itself is not sufficient to take as a ruling, but must be analyzed with the frame work of the understanding of the Sahaba, Tabieen, Taba Tabieen and the Mujtahid Imams. Devoid of that how can we be sure we're following the sunnah, rather than just a single hadith?
This is the blessing of having the madhabs.
Synergistik 1 year ago
@Synergistik there are more than enoughscholars that have fiqh.
abuadam10 1 year ago
@Synergistik
The sheikh in the video isnt against madhabs....watch the video before this one to understand the position.
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro I never said it was.
Synergistik 1 year ago
Love you, dear brother thanks for the video.. Those that do taqleed are sometimes very harsh to us that do ittiba3. Sometimes I get very annoyed about theyre ignorance and dissrespect for sincere seekers of truth. Always putting them down like no one has more knowledge than the mathahib alarba3a. I ask Allah for thabaat and sincerety in our path.
abuadam10 1 year ago
@abuadam10
Salam Aleikum bro. I get the same harsh treatment from some Salafi brothers, but they are my muslim brothers and I love all muslims, salafi or hanbali or hanafi,etc. We are all muslims, but we have our differences-insha Allah we can accept our small differneces, we have so much in common. May Allah bless you and I hope you don't get harsh treatment from anyone. We are muslims first, and our differences are small, please keep it in mind.
Muslim4Lyfe64 1 year ago
@Muslim4Lyfe64 yes that side is also true. May Allah guide us all
abuadam10 1 year ago
Another video with the simple and clear explanation of this issue which has become one of the most argued about among the Ummah.
Barak Allahu feek akhi for this video!
saladinswarrior 1 year ago
BarakAllah feek!
selam6543 1 year ago
jazakAllah khair bro. Great video.
isovids 1 year ago
BarakAllah feek akhi.
SipahiWarrior 1 year ago
@Arabkid99 Jazaka'Allah khair :) i know about keepvid but i don't think subtitles would appear as clear.
TheEndGameBoY 1 year ago
the south asian region has the most people who do taqleed
blackb3ard911 1 year ago
Jazakum Allah khairan for sharing
iman99salma 1 year ago
Wonderful video! barakallahu feek
SaracenArrow 1 year ago
Link to download?
Jazak'Allahu khairan.
TheEndGameBoY 1 year ago
@TheEndGameBoY
Sorry akhi i dont have a link but keepvid will download it as you see it on here
download as mp4
BeMyBro 1 year ago
@BeMyBro no problem akhi, Jazka'Allah khair
TheEndGameBoY 1 year ago
Subhana'Allah........Baraka'Allahu feek akhi,
TheEndGameBoY 1 year ago
Jazakallah khair, I don't know where you found this awesome vid!
qabandiman 1 year ago
SubhanAllah
MashaAllah
May Allah open are hearts towards guidance and unite the muslim ummah.
and remove the malice and contempt we have in our hearts for eachother.
ameen!
abuumer1 1 year ago
I wish students of knowloge watch this video and accept it .and they stop teach hate between muslims .because of differences in points of view
wwwsultanorg 1 year ago
Jaza ka Allahu khairn akhi for sharing! May Allah ta'ala reward you, ameen!
NeverGiveUpNow 1 year ago
y7leelk masha'alla
msabssa 1 year ago
JazakAllah Khiran
very informative
MrDr77 1 year ago
Everything mentioned in this video is in accordance to what the 4 imams have said and believed, unlike the extremist muqalideen they cannot backup their fanatic blind-following with the words of Allah, Prophet, or even the imams. Never did the imams mention anything about following everything they said being wajib, but rather they said the opposite.
Islam is simple, you don't need to follow or know an entire madhab to be a good Muslim.
SFAvfx 1 year ago
@SFAvfx See this is the problem bro. Calling your fellow brothers extremists. The misunderstanding is in this: the muqallids don't say you can't take different things from different madhabs. You CAN. But you should have a justifiable reason. Otherwise it means you are suggesting that the reasoning process (methodology) applied to derive rulings can be valid one day and not the other. If its valid for fatwa A, then its valid for B. Anyway, if people have reasons, like, they know the >>>
romanali1 1 year ago
methodology wasn't applied for a certain ruling for example, or they know for sure that the madhabs didn't have access to a hadeeth, then they would be justified in following the opinion of a different madhab.
Either way, they can STILL take from different madhabs if they are 100% sure they are not following their nafs to only pick rulings that are easiest.
Saying the imams didn't have access to certain hadeeth is a non sequitor because madhabs are not about the founding imams, but they are >>
romanali1 1 year ago
about the collective opinion of all the scholars of a certain madhab culminating in the present times. In fact, there are actually Hanafi rulings which contradict the position of Imam Abu Hanifa r.a.
The sheikh here says: in matters of unimportance does madhab issues arise. I agree it is on ambiguous matters. However, I wouldn't say it's unimportant, but we still tolerate each other because we can't know for certain.
Only when one is called an extremist muqallid does it become an issue.
romanali1 1 year ago
If these are unimportant issues, then surely it's fine to stick to one madhab if one does have complete trust in the methodology of a madhab (applied over a thousand years by many scholars). It's not necessarily about confidence in the founder of the madhab, though that wouldn't invalidate my point.
Similarly, if these are unimportant matters, then one could choose. We differ on if it's important. Ambiguity != unimportance. However, muqallids don't call ghayr muqallids "extremists".
romanali1 1 year ago
My point isn't to spam bro. I hope you don't hate me for spamming. :-)
The point is, if the sheikh who one takes guidance from knows the methodologies of the madhabs and then declares a certain fatwa, which could even contradict one's madhab, that's absolutely fine. You can take that ruling and apply it in your life, since a layman can't be expected to know better than a scholar.
That's the issue. Does the sheikh apply the methodologies, or does he blindly accept everything in Bukhari/Muslim?
romanali1 1 year ago
I'm not saying the sahih Bkukhari & Muslim collections aren't sahih. They ARE. However, there are also saheeh hadeeth which aren't in these collections, probably for similar reasons to what is ascribed to the imams of the madhabs, ie imam Bukhari may not have come across certain ahadeeth. Nobody is suggesting he did bad scholarship, but it's possible he never came across certain sahih hadeeth. When you have two sahih hadeeths, one in Bukhari and one out, methodology is used to derive preference.
romanali1 1 year ago
Anyway, I will stop spamming here.
Let us agree to tolerate each other and consider each other as brothers. We all agree that madhab issue is on ambiguous matters. Let's not call each other extremists and lets not insist that we have to agree with each other on every matter. As long as we agree on the aqeeda, that's the main thing. Madhabs CAN contain mistakes. SELF-IJTIHAD is also risky. As long as we are sincere, then Allah will judge as all.
Wassalamu alaikum wa rahmathullah.
romanali1 1 year ago
@romanali1
Brother, I didn't mean all the Muslims who follow a madhab are extremists. In-fact I know brothers who follow a madhab, but they also follow some rulings from another madhab because they feel it is closer to the truth and not out of merely following their nafs. You apparently agree with not just following one madhab, but some muqalideen don't agree with crossing madhahib.
The point of contention is that there is no theoretical proof binding every Muslim to follow a single madhab.
SFAvfx 1 year ago
WelCome Back Brother :)
Souldjah008 1 year ago
Jazakallhu Khairon. Wallahi I love this sheikh
hamed444 1 year ago
@hamed444 same here!
MsYemeni1 1 year ago