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  • So where can I watch this film?

  • can anyone explain what the fuck this war was about? Who started it? Who won?

  • @FlusherD12 Communists started it, South-Africans won.

  • S.Africa concluded a very complex (as in racial,tribal and political) if not nearly impossible internal peace initiative,which in fact means it was a win win situation for all races and a unified South Africa. The movie INVICTUS reflects the mood of the nation.

    Apart from a minority of assholes the ruling white National Party succeeded in bringing a peaceful reconcilliation between races and Mandela continued to maintain that ethos.. We beat the crap out of the commies & all SA's won.

  • @azanianlion Why would the minority Nationalist Party work on Peace and Reconciliation against people they despised, dehumanized, marginalized and seggregated? Is it so hard for you to accredit the REAL efforts of Mandela and fellows towards that end? Take a deep breath and tell the truth as it wont kill you fact is the NP didnt SUCCEED in bringing the peace in SA - they bowed to internal and external pressure - and didnt have the credibility to make the majority think peace - but Mandela.

  • The Buthelezi'z Inkatha Party and the assholes' (violence) you talk about were supported by NP as a weapon used to rationalize their claim to the world (as they continued business as usual with the then USA & UK governments) - that South Africans couldnt govern themselves due to violence. Amazing how you credit NP with peace and reconciliation mission in SA! LMAO!

  • @azanianlion The fact that SA under the black rule transitioned without civil war is a big blow to you azanianlion and the other supremacists .. it shows clearly that Mandela and others were smarter than you and your friends and could see right through you and your intentions.

  • @intrepeco Really civil war? between who??? the blacks and the whites who just gave the blacks the fucking country??? And if you mean tribal violence then you are mistaken, because there was a lot of that.

    You seem to fail to notice the rampant crime, economic stagnation, and general decline in living standards that has been the name of the game since black rule began.

  • @kubaniski Your sabotours are currently returning to SA after running away from the country in 1994. Economic hardships in the west doesnt spare them apart from being looked at as hypocrites by open minded westerners.. It means their sabotage mindset has failed as they worked so hard to make a Rainbow Nation fail they way you too would have wanted to see and still salivate on .. Pathetic.

    South Africans will find ways to survive in a world full of racists who want to see them fail like you.

  • @intrepeco Saboteurs??

    A recession is not the same thing as 20years of stagnation.

    Who the hell are these saboteurs??

    "South Africans will find ways to survive" right just like the rest of Africa. lol

  • @kubaniski Ask less informed pple like you who hate without reason other than the fact that Africans in SA are now own bosses contrary to your much loved status quo of white pple being BAAS. Continue to live in the past!

    Yeah they will survive as does Greece, Bulgaria and other white pple countries whose struggles you dont see. as all you see is color of Africans but not the socioeconomic issues they have to overcome; Well continue to hate as it is as cheap as you are. Bye

  • @intrepeco Wtf is BAAS??

    Greece is in debt but they accrued that debt after they made themselves a wealthy country. Bulgaria on the other hand is poor because it was under the rule of communists, kinda like Africa is now. However the standard of living in Bulgaria is still much higher than in any nation in black Africa.

    The issue here is that the SA has not overcome any socioeconomic issues. The standard of living of the blacks has gone down under ANC rule.

  • @kubaniski At least you are learning now that socioeconomic issues exist. and it amuses me when you mention Bulgaria was a communist C'ry and hence where they are. So pple of SA didnt have challenges under Apartheid that caused current challenges that have to be overcome? You r a bonehead just desperate to display your stupidity. Keeping Africans in Bantustans and pushing Africans out of big cities into makeshift cities such s Sophia town wasnt a way of making their living standard better/

  • @intrepeco Blacks in apartheid SA had a higher standard of living than people in Bulgaria. And the Bantustans had more prosperous economies then the other black African nations.

    But i agree about one thing that the whites should have never used black labor. The whites should have totally separated from the blacks and did their own work.

    And as fro the civil war thing u want me to believe in. Who would have fought in this civil war?? why would the whites give the country up and then fight??

  • @kubaniski Correction: whites didnt willingly relinguish power due to internal resistance and international economic sanctions after their barberism was globally known. better living standard in Bantustans and then resist Apartheid? As for the civil war ask Terreblache' et al why were they training an AWP army and interrupting the transition of power talks and why NP govt backed Inkatha Party on kiling the ANC members?

  • Africans' lands including mineral resources were robbed by white supremacists (who wouldnt let the so called "Kaffir" lead own lives without their control) to create a desperate cheap labor. "They shouldnt have used black labor" ! U think like an idiot. What made you think those thugs were the "fair and paying type"? Exact behavior that got the Supreme Thug Leader (Eugene)'s ass kicked by a farm worker! LOL. Your volks were assholes. bye.

  • @intrepeco That is exactly why i am against the Afrikaans using black labor, the Negros are violent. The whites should have separated themselves completely from the blacks and not hired them at all.

  • Pass laws when they wanted to visit big cities. lol. You are mentally sick. The economy then catered for a minorty; WHITES; and when the same economy is spread against every one in the country today; reality exposes itself. So get up from your day time dream. Your volks didnt take care of Africans but their own. ANC is working towards those challenges now.

  • I thought you would help if thats what you and your apartheid volks did and lost in the process! (which they wouldnt if therent that dumb!) and it kills you to see your wishes never happened. 'Civil war'!, which would have served a rationale for your evil mindedness.. Down with you lousy Bitter Loser and bye. LMAO.

  • This movie is a DISGRACE to all the good work done by the SADF. Its not fact and the Movie Director is a traitor to the truth..... I served 10 years PF with 2SAIand SA Army HQ in SWA / Namibia + Border Duty and Riots in Alex ... this movie is false. We were true brothers in arms BLACK & WHITE together, same trench, same bivvy, same ratpacks. I was in service when the Cubans came and a few SADF troops with our allies "Vir ons land, ons vir jou!" ..it was WAR against terrorists & communist ideals

  • Viva Fidel Castro! Thanks to Cuba and other African countries, the invading South African Apartheid terrorists were defeated. If they were not they would still be ruling through terror and racism up to this day.....

  • APARTHEID TERRORISTS WHO THOUGHT THEY COULD CONTINUE TO TERRORISE THE BLACK MAJORITY BUT EVENTUALLY LOST AND WERE DEFEATED.

  • the racist south african fucks got whipped by AFRICANS and our cuban brothers

  • @Mofifty31 When and where? as far as I know the communist cubans GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED IN CUITO CUANAVALE .They were far better soldiers than the cuban commies.

  • @submariner200 Angola's ruling party is the MPLA this is the group that fought against the south africans along with the Cubans. make no mistake i aint no fan of the cubans but the fact is the fact, they crushed the south africans. if not angola would have been a south african enclave and namibia would have remained under south african domination.

  • @Mofifty31 The Cubans and MPLA were never a match for the might of the South African Defence Force. We had nuclear bombs,we made the biggest howitzer the G6,,we converted our oldest mirages into Atlas Cheetah fighters which matched the F15's. Our armoured cars are being used in Iraq today.Our Generals and senior officers were trained at Westpoint in the USA. We could mobilise an army of + 500 000 soldiers at any time. Should i carry on? Cubans had mig23's in their favour,thats all.

  • @Mofifty31 Wikipedia "Operation Alpha Centauri" we were horribly outnumbered but a battery of eight G5's and a battery of eight multiple rocket launchers had the communist FAPLA and Cubans scampering with their tails between their legs back across the river. All we lost in that battle were a few water trucks. By the way FAPLA had 3 brigades (3000-6000 each) we only had 32 battalion (+- 1000).

  • @azanianlion look there is one end result it does not matter how amazing the vicotries of the south african armies were the end result is that apartheid is done and they were finished. same thing as vietnam the americans won almost all the battles but lost the war

  • I know next to nothing about the specifics of this war they're talking about, but it's painfully obvious that this is just another re-writing of history by political victors. The purpose of movies like these is to 1. Make white people question their own legitimacy and self-pacify so... 2. They can more easily marginalize the remaining part of the population that still may not be squarely under their thumb.

    Blatant, transparent propaganda of the first order.

  • I bet this movie will suggest SA lost the battle of Cuito Cuanavale ...pffft

  • It was a war against people who refuse to serve n protect us dollar n pound.

    no against black n white

  • what a crock of shit!!! I was in 1 para.bn. and a corporal aswell. Just goes to show: History is written by the VICTORS!!! WE WON THE WAR BUT LOST THE POLITICS!

  • It was political, not racial! Disinformation causing further divide.

  • Does anyone know what the music to this is called? IT'S SO EPIC!

  • Utter. Bull. Shit.

    Black and white fought side by side in SWA and Angola, even turning black SWAPO terrorists against their own organisation and recruiting them. If the SADF were as described in this film, would they have done so? THIS FILM IS LIE AFTER LIE!

  • @EmilyJane767 Well theres hollywood for you.

  • Was excited till they tried to make it look like race war...

  • lacky video

  • I have yet to see a movie that has Action about the Border war on the bush war in Rhodesia

  • @StrikeForce20 Look up the Crippled Eagles

  • Can anyone please tell me if this movie did actually get released. Desperately trying to get hold of it anywhere! Any ideas???

  • Movies name is AT THY CALL

  • I I knew of only 2 people. one is my uncle who never talks about it. another who was a friend in our family who later went mad- pyschologically and had to go for treatment . they called it bossies.

  • whats the name of the movie?

  • can someone please let this ex NSman know where I can get a copy to watch,in the uk? anybody,please?

  • Alles wat daar gebeur het is opgefok ons sal nie daarvan praat of wil hoor van daai tyd nie

  • Not to get in conflict with ab yes the R1 was used in Angola in the 70´s the name FN comes from fabric nationale Belgique,so any soldier knows the link to that excl epic rifle. when i referred to the galil any idiot would have made the connection to the photo copy of the Galil,which in turn from the AK .After the 1st ak came a lot of limitations the galil was just one of many.I WAS THERE!!.BIG GRENSVEGTER.ha ha

  • or maybe the R5 or R6

  • Ok so in your defence, the directors timing ...The R1 rifles with the new helmets and webbing is a bit out . The R4 should have been the rifle with the newer equipment.

  • @andrewborry I was in the July 1980 intake 5SAI and we were the first to be issued the brand new R4's with old webbing and steel helmets.

  • Oh yes and as for the kevlar helmets and new style webbing. I was there in '84-85, and the july intake before I "KLAARED OUT" were issued with the newer helmets and webbing

  • Whats this film's name? Where will I be able to get a copy of it? Im a black person from the UK and I would definitely like to see it. Can someone who knows more please reply to this comment

  • Still a load of crap written and directed by some ignorant wanna be?

  • A note to "director" check your history,soldiers are using fn or R1 rifles instead of the (galil) R4 rifles.New kevlar helmets as to old "staaldake".the webbing is all wrong it is the new issue as to the old a.l.i.c.e. or all loading independent combat equipment.The time line is all wrong the "cammo" wasn`t available to all units so you fucked up a bit.Don´t quit your day job.

  • @allismas ummmm I have not seen the movie at all but ....FN/R1 rifles were used by the SADF and used in Angola. The R4 is not a galil but a rifle made in SA by littleton engineering , based off the galil. The galil is an Israeli rifle not made in SA

  • What a lot of crap i do not know who wrote this so called movie but i am sure it is some 18 or 19 year old.This said, you have no idea what went on up there,thus this production of bull-shit. As a former sadf -re proud sadf soldier i fought in 32 bn next to non white soldiers,so you want to sell me this crap movie with an racism theme ?.What a DIPSHIT you are and those that believe this crap.

  • What is of interest in this film is the BS lies and they make the white man in Africa look evil.

  • They were defending Apartheid, mein Gott!!!

  • Serves them Right.

  • bull shite

  • A movie on the SADF Border War is long overdue. Its such a shame that when they make one they attempt to denigrate the honorable memory of the SADF with liberal, Communist, touchy-feely rubbish.

  • here here Kampfer1445

    Im From Australia , and would love to see this movie.

  • I love South Africa

  • I love you

  • Hows that? lol

  • Which's the title of this movie, please? Thank You

  • thy call

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  • what a load of crock...........to many inaccuracies.......its BS

  • which language are they speaking?

  • Afrikaans.

  • Hollywood crap

  • Wat is volgende..... ja ons het geveg ja ons het gese ons vir jou Suid Afrika .... nou sit ons die werld vol want ons kinders het geen toekoms in SA nie en nou wys hulle sulke (*& ........ maak my hart seer .........

  • This has all of the warning signs of Hollywoodesque BS propaganda twisting of facts to serve the current incompetent SA regime. Bad whitey, Good blackey, White soldiers racked with guilt with a massive helping of mellowdramatics.

  • looks like some more hollywood B.S. ....

  • What is the difference between afrikaans and dutch? isn't it nearly the same language?

  • Thalerus

    Afrikaans was developed mainly from the Dutch language. The Dutch landed in South Africa hundreds of years ago, and it evolved to form the language between the French, Germans and other Europeans that also landed there. Also, there is no letter "C" in Afrikaans it is always a "K"

  • im srry but the credits at the start of the trailer are communist bull shit

  • Do they release the DVD version of this movie? Can I get this movie in Australia? I'm always fascinated by Bush War/ African Border war and SADF? All the best mate!!!

  • obligatory service was called off the year i had to go. couldnt believe i was sooo lucky.

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  • is that dutch their speaking??

  • it was Afrikaans...

  • ah ok i thought it was some european language

  • At 0:36 he is saying " They are on their way to come and kill you girlfriend, mom and dad. They have no remore and want to plant their red flag on our soil". Well they are here and are killing and have hoisted their flag, but the war is far from over...Ons vir jou Suid Afrika

  • my dad had to do south african national service

  • How can I get a hold of this movie in the U.K.? I really want to see it! Any body please help!

  • this movie looks good..

  • The communist scum in the end did take over South Africa. Even though the battle was not lost on a battle field but forced onto us by the US and UK liberals.

    Now look at the end result of having communists take over. Unemployment, crime, corruption and a failing country. Our boys did not die in vane, they sacrificed their lives for the betterment of the nation. Long live their spirit.

    It was never a war between black and white. It was a battle against terrorism and communists.

  • Amen!

  • UR RIGHT!

  • wad is this movies call?

  • @Sreggaematic09 you need help...

  • Massive distortion of facts...it was WAR against terrorists...not white against black for fuck sake!

  • @icyhotwitch Ja you know they seem to forget Mandela and the ANC bombed "soft" targets in SA = Old people,woman and children. Post offices etc and the stink of it was if we let them have SWA they would have had a bigger border to launch attacks on us. Imagine UK letting afgans take over Wales exmple? Same thing or US and Cuba situation. History has proven us right after all. They say we were fed lies...were we? Are things better or worse since they got control? Is our values and economy better?

  • @icyhotwitch Amen! God people can construe whatever they want for their fucking agendas. Learn history people! Keep spreading the truth, hotwitch!

  • @icyhotwitch

    "it was WAR against terrorists.."

    So was claimed to be the Italian Fascists/Nazi Germans against partisans (they called them "bandits").

    Let's try to put something clear: RSA was under a de facto dictatorship of a minority Vs. a majority. This de facto dictatorship was called "Apartheid". Whoever, black or white, fought on the side of the government of the era, was de facto supporting the Apartheid, even if they say they were just "fighting for they Country".

  • @icyhotwitch I hear you brother! Well said.

  • SADF forever!!!!!!!!! The ANC must KAK!

  • I always believed the fighting man of the old SADF was a soldier no matter what colour he was...he was a soldier first, then a human being.

  • dit maak my maar die P46456s in, om te sien dat racism die kruks van die storie is, soveel maar kon gedoen word.

    lank lewe ons suid afika

    100% Boer....

  • They were fighting *commie with usa help but cuba is in usa window why usa never fight commie like u did?

    anglo americano used afrikaner n dump sadf lol

  • A condition of the agreements after the cuban missile crisis was that the US could not attack cuba in any way unless provoked.

  • Dit lyk vir my soos propaganda net om ons wit mens se naam weer gat te maak, so ja dit gaan n baie kak fliek wees, hou maar verby dankie

  • mmm it looks like kak if you ask me i was a para and spent 17 months in the operational zone - we were fighting terrorists and comunists it had nothing to do with color ,hell black and white fought side by side in angola but as is the way with most things people only see what they want to see and make movies from there own perspective but not experiances- i lost many friends there and it will always be a part of me -just sad so many died for what is now like sa just another african country

  • @CCCBB7 Can't agree more my vriend, net een jaar vir my maar ek weet wat het aangegaan. "their goverment lied to them" stront man kyk waars die land nou. Jy weet ek kyk terug na Kruigkor en wat ons kon maak daai tyd. Ons was die wereld se 6de grootste wapens producer en US gebruik nou nog goed wat ons lewnes daai tyd gered het. Ek's trots op ons man en jammer vir die manne wat geval het (vir vokkel op die ou end - FW gives it away) en sal altyd trots wees op ons. Beste voet soldate in die wereld

  • the truth wasn't distorted they were told they were fighting communists and they were.

  • This looks like one of those Michle Moore dumb movies.I was there,the write up is distorting the truth.

  • official web site?

  • Shoot those Kaffirs on the old Transvaal.

  • Cant wait for this to be released.

    Lived there for 30 years and its still in my blood.I cant just smell the dust from the rifle range....

  • I just read that it is being screened at the

    Cannes Film Festival this month. Hopefully, we will see it by September. The trailer looks really good.

  • Has this Movie been released yet?

  • That language is almost like Dutch

  • it's afrikaans

  • Afrikaans!!

  • so is this movie gonna air worldwide or something?will it be in the cinemas? by the way where can i buy a copy?

    thanx

  • Uniquely silly.

    But I will find a way to watch it anyway.

  • This is just phenomenal for the movement. I want to promote this through the U.S. veins.

    Would have been nice to get Leonardo D'Caperio in the cast.

  • lol, he was good in blood diamond, but he can't just be in every african movie now.

  • Wow. Ek moet sê as film student sien ek uit na die film. Hopelik word dit nie verban nie en dat dit 'n eerlike en regverdige perspektief het oor wat op die grens gebeur het.

  • Nice movie boet, but its just a movie, if you really wanna see why that war was fought search youtube for The last Domino, then you might understand that war better

  • That was awesome. I really want to see this.

  • :) good i liked it

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