@thebigJ1er Gary Grigsby's War in the East might qualify. It seems much more land-combat centric, though, so I'm not terribly interested in it. I'm into this more for the laughs resulting from potentially sinking carriers with battleships than land combat modeled more realistically :)
But you're probably asking if there's a western allies vs. axis map encompassing from Iceland in the northwest of the map to maybe some part of North Africa in the southeast. On that, I haven't heard anything.
That's too bad. Running through the Battle of the Atlantic in this sort of game would be fun. And would motivate me to learn more, since I'm more interested in that than the Pacific.
I've had WITP for months now, and I just can't seem to get into it. i spent days trying to learn when I got it, and I go back every so often, but it's not happening yet. The UI is so clumsy, and everything so obtuse. It feels like there's a wall between me and what's going on. Shame, game was expensive.
But anyway, It is good to see someone getting into a game like this, As I admit it is quite hefty. Looks to me like you may be a "Grognard" yourself if you keep this up, If you are not one already. What's the update man? It's been a couple months. Have you gone to the Grog-Side? :)
@Joeyboots80 I managed to hit the victory conditions in August 1944 after I liberated Manila. I took a bit of a break from this to focus more on Starcraft 2. A few weeks ago, I started a new campaign under scenario 1 and managed to get my near-Midway (scratch 3 flattops) on 1/31/42, and I still hold the biggest oil centers in 4/42. Knowing the game mechanics makes a big difference! I might try and record some surface action to show off, since the IJN still has surface assets in this new universe
Lol About your friend TeianDown. We are not all like that. I am a "Grognard", And I also enjoy lighter more action focused experiences like the Total War series also, And was seriously addicted to Company of Heroes for a couple years. I play FPS's and RPG's as well. As a "grognard" I am serious about my wargaming, yes, But only in the same sense that sim gamer's demand realism in their games. I don't see what is stopping your friend from playing other sorts of games though. That is kinda weird.
Are you limited to historical planes and ships, or can you build stuff that never existed in real life? Also, are you given control of shipbuilding so that instead of constructing Yamatos (which rarely saw combat) you could put the resources into more carriers instead?
@delta5297 When you play as the Allies, you're limited to historical reinforcement schedules (plus what the game speculates would come if the war went past August 1945). You have the option to add a +/- a few month modifier to each unit, though.
For the Japanese, the player can make some changes. I think you can accelerate research on new airframes or speed construction of certain ships (including carriers that never made it into action IRL), but at the cost of slowing basic reinforcements.
@TeianDown As for canning Yamato and Musashi, I don't believe that's possible (as they were both out to sea in mid 1942, IIRC, so nearly done on 12/7/41). You can choose whether to continue building the 3rd ship in that class, Shinano, as a battleship or as a carrier. In some scenarios, you can actually convert it to a more useful carrier class as well. That said, I don't know many more particulars of managing industry as the Japanese player as I haven't played a campaign as them yet.
To expand a bit for Teian on the Allies: If the Japanese achieve certain ahistoric advances, it will trigger changes to hte Allied reinforcement/withdrawal schedules. (For an extreme example, a japanese invasion of India getting close to New Delhi will trigger IIRC a full british Corps to be released to the Allied player.)
I found some video tutorials, made by the guy who made WitPtracker, which is a tool for compiling all the data in the game. Both the videos and tracker itself arestill a little incomprehensible to me, but they'll come in handy as I figure stuff out.
keep the good work. You would think that after spending around $90 on this fine game the developers would include a tutorial....the 300+ pages manual makes reference to it but after failing to find it i look it up in the forums and they never made it apparently. Thanks for the videos!
Hmm. I've been playing Hearts of Iron 3 lately. It's the closest I've come to wargaming, and it's made me curious about the genre. Since I don't know anyone who plays the board games, I'm limited to pc.This looks interesting, but also very complicated and, I imagine, hard to get into for a newb like myself.
Do you have any suggestions for games of this type that might be a little more accessible?
@thebigJ1er No idea. This was my first foray into the genre in recent years, so I guess you could say I dove in head first :)
I did play the Panzer General series when I was younger which is similar, but with a more tactical scope (single battles, less logistics focus). I very much admired Panzer General 2, but it doesn't seem to play nice with 64 bit operating systems and modern PC hardware (multicore processors, dx10 video cards, etc). I think someone made a version for the Nintendo DS.
@thebigJ1er Best of luck. This is the most addictive thing I played since MMORPGs :)
As for hints, I'd say the thing that helped me the most was reading some of the threads in the After Action Reports section of the game's official forum. That gave me a much better idea of what's possible, and from there, I could piece together the "how" from the manual and reloading a save until things happened the way I wanted them to. And as I mention, definitely start with one of the smaller campaigns.
Thanks for the feedback, folks. Hopefully the unscriptedness/unrehearsedness of the next videos doesn't prove to be too offputting :)
Next videos are on the way, at the rate of 1/day, barring errors. I upload while I sleep, and upload + starcraft = bad.
@kinjari: Hope you enjoy if you decide to nab it. If you're not aware, though, I'm told AE is basically WitP 2.0 rather than a basic expansion. Balance and mechanics are a good bit different than what you'll see here, but for $50+ less, yeah...
You are very correct that this is very unique game and certainly not for everyone. Very much in the vein of the old Avalon Hill games (which I so dearly loved as a young lad but none of my friends could get into).
I believe the updated non-admiral edition is on sale on Steam this week for $30 (download only - no box). I will probably pick it up with the expectation I will probably never finish a game :)
just get some friends and play axis & allies
blowupuate13 2 days ago
is this game better than Hearts of Iron 3 ?
MustNotRead 6 days ago
Is there anything like this for the European theater?
thebigJ1er 5 months ago
@thebigJ1er Gary Grigsby's War in the East might qualify. It seems much more land-combat centric, though, so I'm not terribly interested in it. I'm into this more for the laughs resulting from potentially sinking carriers with battleships than land combat modeled more realistically :)
But you're probably asking if there's a western allies vs. axis map encompassing from Iceland in the northwest of the map to maybe some part of North Africa in the southeast. On that, I haven't heard anything.
TeianDown 5 months ago
@TeianDown
That's too bad. Running through the Battle of the Atlantic in this sort of game would be fun. And would motivate me to learn more, since I'm more interested in that than the Pacific.
I've had WITP for months now, and I just can't seem to get into it. i spent days trying to learn when I got it, and I go back every so often, but it's not happening yet. The UI is so clumsy, and everything so obtuse. It feels like there's a wall between me and what's going on. Shame, game was expensive.
thebigJ1er 5 months ago
are there small missions in the game for a small start?
idontknowwhatnicktou 7 months ago
@idontknowwhatnicktou there are much smallers scn.s to start on like Battle of the Coral Sea, etc.
363Magi 2 months ago
But anyway, It is good to see someone getting into a game like this, As I admit it is quite hefty. Looks to me like you may be a "Grognard" yourself if you keep this up, If you are not one already. What's the update man? It's been a couple months. Have you gone to the Grog-Side? :)
Joeyboots80 7 months ago
@Joeyboots80 I managed to hit the victory conditions in August 1944 after I liberated Manila. I took a bit of a break from this to focus more on Starcraft 2. A few weeks ago, I started a new campaign under scenario 1 and managed to get my near-Midway (scratch 3 flattops) on 1/31/42, and I still hold the biggest oil centers in 4/42. Knowing the game mechanics makes a big difference! I might try and record some surface action to show off, since the IJN still has surface assets in this new universe
TeianDown 7 months ago 2
Lol About your friend TeianDown. We are not all like that. I am a "Grognard", And I also enjoy lighter more action focused experiences like the Total War series also, And was seriously addicted to Company of Heroes for a couple years. I play FPS's and RPG's as well. As a "grognard" I am serious about my wargaming, yes, But only in the same sense that sim gamer's demand realism in their games. I don't see what is stopping your friend from playing other sorts of games though. That is kinda weird.
Joeyboots80 7 months ago
Are you limited to historical planes and ships, or can you build stuff that never existed in real life? Also, are you given control of shipbuilding so that instead of constructing Yamatos (which rarely saw combat) you could put the resources into more carriers instead?
delta5297 9 months ago
@delta5297 When you play as the Allies, you're limited to historical reinforcement schedules (plus what the game speculates would come if the war went past August 1945). You have the option to add a +/- a few month modifier to each unit, though.
For the Japanese, the player can make some changes. I think you can accelerate research on new airframes or speed construction of certain ships (including carriers that never made it into action IRL), but at the cost of slowing basic reinforcements.
TeianDown 9 months ago
@TeianDown As for canning Yamato and Musashi, I don't believe that's possible (as they were both out to sea in mid 1942, IIRC, so nearly done on 12/7/41). You can choose whether to continue building the 3rd ship in that class, Shinano, as a battleship or as a carrier. In some scenarios, you can actually convert it to a more useful carrier class as well. That said, I don't know many more particulars of managing industry as the Japanese player as I haven't played a campaign as them yet.
TeianDown 9 months ago
@delta5297
To expand a bit for Teian on the Allies: If the Japanese achieve certain ahistoric advances, it will trigger changes to hte Allied reinforcement/withdrawal schedules. (For an extreme example, a japanese invasion of India getting close to New Delhi will trigger IIRC a full british Corps to be released to the Allied player.)
Magni56 7 months ago
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I found some video tutorials, made by the guy who made WitPtracker, which is a tool for compiling all the data in the game. Both the videos and tracker itself arestill a little incomprehensible to me, but they'll come in handy as I figure stuff out.
Oh, and there's one about how to drop paratroops.
sites. google. com/ site/n01487477/Home?pli=1 (remove spaces)
thebigJ1er 11 months ago
keep the good work. You would think that after spending around $90 on this fine game the developers would include a tutorial....the 300+ pages manual makes reference to it but after failing to find it i look it up in the forums and they never made it apparently. Thanks for the videos!
rootsjavi 11 months ago
Hmm. I've been playing Hearts of Iron 3 lately. It's the closest I've come to wargaming, and it's made me curious about the genre. Since I don't know anyone who plays the board games, I'm limited to pc.This looks interesting, but also very complicated and, I imagine, hard to get into for a newb like myself.
Do you have any suggestions for games of this type that might be a little more accessible?
thebigJ1er 11 months ago
@thebigJ1er No idea. This was my first foray into the genre in recent years, so I guess you could say I dove in head first :)
I did play the Panzer General series when I was younger which is similar, but with a more tactical scope (single battles, less logistics focus). I very much admired Panzer General 2, but it doesn't seem to play nice with 64 bit operating systems and modern PC hardware (multicore processors, dx10 video cards, etc). I think someone made a version for the Nintendo DS.
TeianDown 11 months ago
@TeianDown
You have any pointers for figuring this game out? I decided what the hell and picked it up (so expensive!).
It seems like I might like it, but the UI seems like it's from Windows 95, and there's so much to keep track of.
thebigJ1er 11 months ago
@thebigJ1er Best of luck. This is the most addictive thing I played since MMORPGs :)
As for hints, I'd say the thing that helped me the most was reading some of the threads in the After Action Reports section of the game's official forum. That gave me a much better idea of what's possible, and from there, I could piece together the "how" from the manual and reloading a save until things happened the way I wanted them to. And as I mention, definitely start with one of the smaller campaigns.
TeianDown 11 months ago
Thanks for the feedback, folks. Hopefully the unscriptedness/unrehearsedness of the next videos doesn't prove to be too offputting :)
Next videos are on the way, at the rate of 1/day, barring errors. I upload while I sleep, and upload + starcraft = bad.
@kinjari: Hope you enjoy if you decide to nab it. If you're not aware, though, I'm told AE is basically WitP 2.0 rather than a basic expansion. Balance and mechanics are a good bit different than what you'll see here, but for $50+ less, yeah...
TeianDown 1 year ago
Looking forward to the next video. Thanks for posting this one. I'm checking into this game but aren't sure it's really my thing.
Phileosophos 1 year ago
Great overview!
You are very correct that this is very unique game and certainly not for everyone. Very much in the vein of the old Avalon Hill games (which I so dearly loved as a young lad but none of my friends could get into).
I believe the updated non-admiral edition is on sale on Steam this week for $30 (download only - no box). I will probably pick it up with the expectation I will probably never finish a game :)
kinjari 1 year ago