This is pretty much proof that Cloud half-asses most of his battles. Accept for Sephiroth. Cloud would have wasted Sora if he was actually motivated to fight him. Like he was with Sephy here.
@docbach329 Nooooooooo. This doesn't really prove anything. Cloud gets this fast when he fights sora too. He woudnt lose a fight to some kid just because he wasnt "motivated."
Not really. He never moves this fast at all or you'd never land a blow on him. He lost because either he didn't want to kill you or he was going easy on you and underestimated Sora's abilities.
@aaabbbcccfgh Noooooo. Cloud always fights at his best when its against Sephiroth. Every single time. Look at crisis core. Cloud was completely outmatched by Seph, but he still pulled his blade through him and threw his ass into the mako stream. Look at Advent childeren, agian, outmatched by seph, but he pulled out another victory. Before he foght seph, he lost to speh`s remnants. Same thing happened here. Cloud`s true potential comes out when he fights Seph. Its the only time hes really focused
He lost to the Remneants because he was out of practice and suffering from Geostigma. Once he got back his game he destroyed them in their fight. Same with Kadaj, except Cloud got cured too.
As for Advent Sephiroth, Cloud pulled that one out of his ass. IF Sephiroth hadn't been arrogant and provoked him with "Tell me what you cherish most, etc" Cloud would never of had the strength or will to Omnislash him into oblivion.
@ballrdd24 Geostigma wasnt that big of factor. Remember when Cloud told Tifa that all that dilly dallying made him feel lighter? Then remember how he owned the giant monster and Seph`s remnants in the motorcycle chase scene right after that? He still had the stigma then. This Clearly proves that Clouds mental state was more of a factor then the stigma. And you still ignore how Cloud defeated seph at the Nieblehiem Mako generator. He wasnt even genetically modified then and he still beat Seph.
That's not actually what he meant. He meant that he'd finally let go of his guilt: The weight he's been dragging around. His mental state was certainly a factor, but the stigma certainly didn't help. Besides, it never flared up during those fights: It did in the first fight and in the Forgotten City.
Cloud beat him because Sephiroth was too stunned to simply let go of his blade after he was lifted up. An impressive moment to be sure, but invalid if you look at it logically.
@ballrdd24 Out of practice? Cloud`s main role in life is to protect the people he cares for, so it wouldnt make sense that he would forget how to fight. Cloud was made into an ass kicking machine by the Shinra scientists by making him a seph clone infused with mako. He doesnt need practice. He has all of the potential of Seph and then some.
Wrong. Cloud spent most of the intervening time between FF7 and Advent as a courier. Look at how he fights in the beginning as compared to how he fights later. His gradual reassembly of the First Tsurugi symbolizes his return to full strength. Tifa herself says that everyone has gotten weaker since Meteorfall.
@ballrdd24 Wrong. Cloud still knows how to fight very well, he is just depressed and un focused. He easily pwns the 2 turks and shinra even says he still has it. Yes Tifa says the party got weaker, but during Cloud`s battle with the last seph remnant, she says that Cloud still has it. The 1st Tsurugi may be a symbol, but this has MUCH more to do with Cloud forgiving himself of his past and moving on. THAT symbolizes his return to full power. Again. Back to the dilly dallying line.
She says that Cloud's still the strongest of the group. Cloud never even fought Reno or Rude in Advent. Besides the point, of course they'd lose: Cloud's a superhuman.
It's all connected: The blade represents Cloud's strength. The stigma represents the guilt eating away at him. The Fenrir wolf following him around represents the guilt itself.
By the end of the movie his sword is complete, the stigma is gone, and the wolf caught up and disappeared.
@ballrdd24 Ok, Your misunderstanding ALLOT of things so this may take a few comments boxes. First, Geostigma is not Cloud`s personal guilt. Geostig is the earths resistance to Seph`s presence in the life stream, kind of like an allergic reaction. It is affecting MANY more people then just Cloud. And Cloud does have a brief fight with the turks when he visits Shinra at the beginning of the film, which is where Shinra says that Cloud still knows how to fight and that he needs his help.
@ballrdd24 Now, the wolf around the old buster sword actually represents an imbodyment of Zach Fair`s spirit, and yes, in a way, Cloud`s guilt. The wolf is also in Cloud`s visions and it disapears when Zach and Aerith walk away at the very end which symbolizes Cloud forgiving himself of the past. Cloud`s Geostig is cured by Aerith at the garden since Aerith is a decendant of the original CETRA and she has some control over the earth/life stream even when she is dead. This is how Cloud was cured.
@ballrdd24 Finally, if you listen to Tifa during Cloud`s last fight with Kadaj, she clearly says that Cloud found his strength again. Also, Cloud is a seph clone, but so were the remnants, and Reno and Rude put up a fairly good fight against them. Cloud owned both of the at the beginning. And yes, the sword is a symbol, but again, this story is primarily about Cloud forgving himself and moving on in life. its foolish to think Cloud could get all is exp back in 2 fights. HE HAD IT ALL ALONG!!
@aaabbbcccfgh And if the facts dont convice you, just look at the game play in KH. Doesnt it seem strange that the Sephiroth battle was rediculously difficult, while the battle against cloud was relatively easy? Now look at this cut scene. Sephiroth and Cloud look pretty evenly matched here. you cant deny that Cloud was holding back on Sora. I dont think Cloud lost to Sora because he wasnt motivated. He lost because he is contantly depressed and un focused, accept for when he fights Sephiroth.
Cloud lost because he wasn't using his full abilities due to you being a kid and Sora having the advantage of having a Keyblade, which is rather effective against beings tainted with Darkness, like Cloud.
@docbach329 1) Normally you'd be right about cloud only fighting at full power against sephiroth, but he would never lose to a kid in an arena match.
2) As with all the other secret bosses, sephiroth is extreme hard because he's a SECRET boss.
3)The cloud fight was easy because you fight him around the beginning of the game.
4)Sora wasnt really focused either. I mean reallly, he just lost his home, parents and best friends all in one day. And is forced to fight monsters just to survive.
@aaabbbcccfgh 1) Cloud didnt even want to fight Sora. Remember his dialogue with Hades? He only wanted Herc.
2) This has no relevence to anything. The game creators made him a difficult boss on purpose.
3) Again, no relevence. The game creators made you fight him early so it would be an easy fight for all the reasons I stated above.
4) Not really focused? Cmon! The kid was crapping chickens just to push the block to get into the arena. He didnt show ANY signs of sadness or un-focus at all.
@docbach329 1)Yes your right that cloud didnt want to fight sora in the 1st place, but he wanted to gain his memories back even more. And wouldve done anything to accomplish his goal.
2)This has revalence to the fight because secret bosses are supposed to be EXTREMLY HARD. If they made sephiroth really hard, then why didnt they do the same with cloud?
3)I'm saying he wasnt really focused because he's new to the whole, "worlds being devoured by darkness." He JUST started his journey.
@aaabbbcccfgh 1) Notice how Cloud wasnt even mad that he lost? Deep down he knew the fight was pointless and that Hades was manipulating him. He didnt even want a rematch. 2) THIS IS THE POINT OF THE WHOLE ARGUMENT! The creators PURPOSEFULY show that Cloud`s true potential comes when he fights Seph. Its done in KH2 too. Cloud is an ok assist char, but doesnt show the raw power that Seph has when you fight him. And again, there is a cutscene where the 2 fight and are equally matched again!
@aaabbbcccfgh 3) There is a BIG difference between being "unfocused" and being just plain inexperienced. Yes, Sora was new to the whoe "worlds being devoured" thing. But he was definitely pumped for this fight regardless of his inexperience as a key blade wielder. Way more pumped up about it then Cloud was because Cloud knew deep down that the darkness was manipulating him, and that his real battle was with Sephiroth and mostly himself. Thats why he didnt care that much about loosing to Sora.
@docbach329 1)Cloud wasnt mad that he lost AFTER he got betrayed by hades. He wouldnt have wasted his time if he knew that hades was secretly betraying him.
2) The creators showed cloud really fast in that cutscene because its a CUTSCENE. They obviously didnt show cloud go that fast when you fight him because the player wouldnt be able to follow his movements. That doesnt go the same for sora.
3)If cloud knew that the darkness was manipulating him, then he wouldnt have wasted his time
@aaabbbcccfgh 1) He didnt know for sure but you could tell he had a hunch. Thats why he is constantly staring at the ground wondering if this is the right way to find seph, thus, why he is confused and un-focused. 2) This has NOTHING to do with speed. Your just ignoring the point i made :( 3) Again, he had a FEELING but he didnt know for sure, so he tried trusting Hades and it didnt work. Again, this is why he looks so confused/ unfocused/ unsure during this whole scene and fight.
4) On a side note, this is sora during the beginning of kh1. He gets a SHITLOAD stronger and faster after this. Not saying that cloud doesnt get stronger, but he's not on the same level on sora.
Also i'm surprised neither of us said "fanboy," or "go fu** yourself fag." I like it, its civilized :D
@aaabbbcccfgh 4) On a side note, KH and Final fantasy are 2 completely different games and nothing chronologically links the 2 game franchises. Sora may have gotten stronger as you say but this has no relevence since you cant put it on a time line with Cloud`s progression and strength growth. I still disagree with your assumption that Sora is stronger but you cant compare the 2 games like that.
Also, im not going to bitch you out even though we disagree on everything. I can be civil too. :D
@docbach329 1)yeah i guess you can tell he had a small hunch but that doesnt change the fact that he was fighting a unexperienced sora.
2)I'm not sure you understood me. I'm saying that if cloud were to fight you as fast as he fought sephiroth (in the cutscene), then the player wouldnt be able to follow cloud. Cloud would just be constantly hitting you and the battle would be over before you will be able to even block. I hope i explained this right.
@docbach329 3)Yes, ff and kh arent really linked. Its just all cameos. I'm saying that sora is stronger because these this was the beginning of sora's journey. They both get stronger but cloud fought sora when cloud already knew some form of fighting. We can go back and forth on saying who's stronger but i really don't feel like doing that, and i don't think you wanna do it either. But thanks for not lashing out on me, all the arguments I've gotten into on this topic didnt end so well :(
@ballrdd24 There's not much difference between the two. And your underestimating sora, he's not as slow as your implying him to be. I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy but note that sora fought him at the BEGINNING of the game. He gets alot stronger you know...
Lol- that is what I would of said is Sora had jumped in there and said-- "THATS THE POWER OF THE KEYBLADE" right when the two started fighting each other which is obviously EPIC
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@crueltyvictim better idea than remaking final fantasy seven they sell an assload of copies of the original playstation 1 final fantasy seven in an assload of stores again
@keybladejedimaster22 Clouds entire Kingdom Hearts outfit is Vincent's. Square Enix was going to put Vincent in Kingdom Hearts but felt as if Vincent and Clouds personalities are too similar, so they decided not to put Vincent in the game and would pay homage to this by giving Cloud Vincent's outfit.
:O one question... HOW THE HECK CAN THEY FLY WITH ONLY 1 WING?!?! XD I haven't played any final fantasies so if the answer is on there then i haven't seen it. :) and Cloud went easy on Sora :O look at him! HES LIKE LIGHTNING SPEED!!!
ok um i have one thing to point out ummm WHY IS SEPHIROTH RIGHT HANDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o and why does cloud have a wing on his left shoulder
@kungfu088 Of course he was. Cloud and Seph could kill him in this one maybe not in KH2 however if Cloud killed Sora who would inherit the keyblade and save the world from the heartless? lol
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@1314kingdomhearts oops haha wrong video, in know KH2FM+ was released here, but really to play KH1FM, all you need is a badass computer and a ps2 emulator :D
I have to be honest, I played through Kingdom Hearts 1 and did basicly every boss battle I could find, beat Sephiroth and got Sora to 100 Str but I never saw this battle scene, how do you unlock?
Sephiroth did have wings in his final form but not like that. Sephiroth's theme song is also called "One winged Angel". Cloud on the other hand apparently gets his wing from Hades when he uses the power of darkness.
it doesnt matter when or where... all that matters is that seph fights cloud... hahaha!!! but i like seph more now... bcuz of dissidia... xD entrauns interies ire vehementi sephiroth!!! xD
@Ampifada Well actually if you play ff7 crisis core. You play as zack who evetually teams up with cloud. In the end they get exposed to a lot of mako(or whatever it is) and thats probably what caused that in cloud for KH1
@Idk000000 I did play Crisis Core but I thought that the wing was a Jenova trait because then if all SOLDIER members were carrying mako energy which Zack said was the SOLDIER trait then wouldnt they give them higher ammounts of make energy so they had the power of the wing?
@Idk000000 I think its safe to say that the reason why cloud has the whole wing and vincent cape thing in kh1, is because it was an extra power bonus that hades gave him in his contract, thats why when you fight cloud he has dark powers hades gave those to him (noruma did say that cloud in kh1 was using dark powers and he wanted to show cloud as a more dark person) and sephiroth in the kh sereis is just a manifestation of clouds own inner darkness that takes his form
@kingdomheartsrocks09 What about Cloud with his wing out the entire fight with electricity around him... Oh wait, never mind! You can't hurt him when he's like that. You lose!
i did something smart i trained up lv 9 on destiny island and get scan so there for i saw clouds Hp and i won against Leon too i havent Died yet im at lv 46 no dies
@The9thFendalus People do that sort of thing just to spice up characters to make them more interesting. i dont remember him having a red cape either. But i prefer the KH2 version.
What's up with the electricity around them before they start fighting?
MattPwnsYouAll221 19 hours ago
How can I find this scene on MY KDH1 Game??
HV6AZZ002 1 week ago
Wish I could fight like that. (I don't mean learn how to defy gravity, I'm talking about the way cloud blocked)
DRAGOON2ONIONKNIGHT 3 weeks ago
This fight reminds me too much of Hibari and Mukuro from KHR. Lool Dx
xKyoya 1 month ago
Uh...I don't know if anyone notices this in this scene but all that's happening in the funny colorful world of Disney's Hercules
MrMasterJD 1 month ago
This is pretty much proof that Cloud half-asses most of his battles. Accept for Sephiroth. Cloud would have wasted Sora if he was actually motivated to fight him. Like he was with Sephy here.
docbach329 2 months ago 5
@docbach329 Nooooooooo. This doesn't really prove anything. Cloud gets this fast when he fights sora too. He woudnt lose a fight to some kid just because he wasnt "motivated."
aaabbbcccfgh 2 weeks ago
@aaabbbcccfgh
Not really. He never moves this fast at all or you'd never land a blow on him. He lost because either he didn't want to kill you or he was going easy on you and underestimated Sora's abilities.
ballrdd24 2 weeks ago
@aaabbbcccfgh Noooooo. Cloud always fights at his best when its against Sephiroth. Every single time. Look at crisis core. Cloud was completely outmatched by Seph, but he still pulled his blade through him and threw his ass into the mako stream. Look at Advent childeren, agian, outmatched by seph, but he pulled out another victory. Before he foght seph, he lost to speh`s remnants. Same thing happened here. Cloud`s true potential comes out when he fights Seph. Its the only time hes really focused
docbach329 2 weeks ago
@docbach329
He lost to the Remneants because he was out of practice and suffering from Geostigma. Once he got back his game he destroyed them in their fight. Same with Kadaj, except Cloud got cured too.
As for Advent Sephiroth, Cloud pulled that one out of his ass. IF Sephiroth hadn't been arrogant and provoked him with "Tell me what you cherish most, etc" Cloud would never of had the strength or will to Omnislash him into oblivion.
ballrdd24 2 weeks ago
@ballrdd24 Geostigma wasnt that big of factor. Remember when Cloud told Tifa that all that dilly dallying made him feel lighter? Then remember how he owned the giant monster and Seph`s remnants in the motorcycle chase scene right after that? He still had the stigma then. This Clearly proves that Clouds mental state was more of a factor then the stigma. And you still ignore how Cloud defeated seph at the Nieblehiem Mako generator. He wasnt even genetically modified then and he still beat Seph.
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329
That's not actually what he meant. He meant that he'd finally let go of his guilt: The weight he's been dragging around. His mental state was certainly a factor, but the stigma certainly didn't help. Besides, it never flared up during those fights: It did in the first fight and in the Forgotten City.
Cloud beat him because Sephiroth was too stunned to simply let go of his blade after he was lifted up. An impressive moment to be sure, but invalid if you look at it logically.
ballrdd24 1 week ago
@ballrdd24 Out of practice? Cloud`s main role in life is to protect the people he cares for, so it wouldnt make sense that he would forget how to fight. Cloud was made into an ass kicking machine by the Shinra scientists by making him a seph clone infused with mako. He doesnt need practice. He has all of the potential of Seph and then some.
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329
Wrong. Cloud spent most of the intervening time between FF7 and Advent as a courier. Look at how he fights in the beginning as compared to how he fights later. His gradual reassembly of the First Tsurugi symbolizes his return to full strength. Tifa herself says that everyone has gotten weaker since Meteorfall.
ballrdd24 1 week ago
@ballrdd24 Wrong. Cloud still knows how to fight very well, he is just depressed and un focused. He easily pwns the 2 turks and shinra even says he still has it. Yes Tifa says the party got weaker, but during Cloud`s battle with the last seph remnant, she says that Cloud still has it. The 1st Tsurugi may be a symbol, but this has MUCH more to do with Cloud forgiving himself of his past and moving on. THAT symbolizes his return to full power. Again. Back to the dilly dallying line.
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329
She says that Cloud's still the strongest of the group. Cloud never even fought Reno or Rude in Advent. Besides the point, of course they'd lose: Cloud's a superhuman.
It's all connected: The blade represents Cloud's strength. The stigma represents the guilt eating away at him. The Fenrir wolf following him around represents the guilt itself.
By the end of the movie his sword is complete, the stigma is gone, and the wolf caught up and disappeared.
ballrdd24 1 week ago
@ballrdd24 Ok, Your misunderstanding ALLOT of things so this may take a few comments boxes. First, Geostigma is not Cloud`s personal guilt. Geostig is the earths resistance to Seph`s presence in the life stream, kind of like an allergic reaction. It is affecting MANY more people then just Cloud. And Cloud does have a brief fight with the turks when he visits Shinra at the beginning of the film, which is where Shinra says that Cloud still knows how to fight and that he needs his help.
docbach329 1 week ago
@ballrdd24 Now, the wolf around the old buster sword actually represents an imbodyment of Zach Fair`s spirit, and yes, in a way, Cloud`s guilt. The wolf is also in Cloud`s visions and it disapears when Zach and Aerith walk away at the very end which symbolizes Cloud forgiving himself of the past. Cloud`s Geostig is cured by Aerith at the garden since Aerith is a decendant of the original CETRA and she has some control over the earth/life stream even when she is dead. This is how Cloud was cured.
docbach329 1 week ago
@ballrdd24 Finally, if you listen to Tifa during Cloud`s last fight with Kadaj, she clearly says that Cloud found his strength again. Also, Cloud is a seph clone, but so were the remnants, and Reno and Rude put up a fairly good fight against them. Cloud owned both of the at the beginning. And yes, the sword is a symbol, but again, this story is primarily about Cloud forgving himself and moving on in life. its foolish to think Cloud could get all is exp back in 2 fights. HE HAD IT ALL ALONG!!
docbach329 1 week ago
@aaabbbcccfgh And if the facts dont convice you, just look at the game play in KH. Doesnt it seem strange that the Sephiroth battle was rediculously difficult, while the battle against cloud was relatively easy? Now look at this cut scene. Sephiroth and Cloud look pretty evenly matched here. you cant deny that Cloud was holding back on Sora. I dont think Cloud lost to Sora because he wasnt motivated. He lost because he is contantly depressed and un focused, accept for when he fights Sephiroth.
docbach329 2 weeks ago
@docbach329
Cloud lost because he wasn't using his full abilities due to you being a kid and Sora having the advantage of having a Keyblade, which is rather effective against beings tainted with Darkness, like Cloud.
ballrdd24 2 weeks ago
@docbach329 1) Normally you'd be right about cloud only fighting at full power against sephiroth, but he would never lose to a kid in an arena match.
2) As with all the other secret bosses, sephiroth is extreme hard because he's a SECRET boss.
3)The cloud fight was easy because you fight him around the beginning of the game.
4)Sora wasnt really focused either. I mean reallly, he just lost his home, parents and best friends all in one day. And is forced to fight monsters just to survive.
aaabbbcccfgh 2 weeks ago
@aaabbbcccfgh 1) Cloud didnt even want to fight Sora. Remember his dialogue with Hades? He only wanted Herc.
2) This has no relevence to anything. The game creators made him a difficult boss on purpose.
3) Again, no relevence. The game creators made you fight him early so it would be an easy fight for all the reasons I stated above.
4) Not really focused? Cmon! The kid was crapping chickens just to push the block to get into the arena. He didnt show ANY signs of sadness or un-focus at all.
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329 1)Yes your right that cloud didnt want to fight sora in the 1st place, but he wanted to gain his memories back even more. And wouldve done anything to accomplish his goal.
2)This has revalence to the fight because secret bosses are supposed to be EXTREMLY HARD. If they made sephiroth really hard, then why didnt they do the same with cloud?
3)I'm saying he wasnt really focused because he's new to the whole, "worlds being devoured by darkness." He JUST started his journey.
aaabbbcccfgh 1 week ago
@aaabbbcccfgh 1) Notice how Cloud wasnt even mad that he lost? Deep down he knew the fight was pointless and that Hades was manipulating him. He didnt even want a rematch. 2) THIS IS THE POINT OF THE WHOLE ARGUMENT! The creators PURPOSEFULY show that Cloud`s true potential comes when he fights Seph. Its done in KH2 too. Cloud is an ok assist char, but doesnt show the raw power that Seph has when you fight him. And again, there is a cutscene where the 2 fight and are equally matched again!
docbach329 1 week ago
@aaabbbcccfgh 3) There is a BIG difference between being "unfocused" and being just plain inexperienced. Yes, Sora was new to the whoe "worlds being devoured" thing. But he was definitely pumped for this fight regardless of his inexperience as a key blade wielder. Way more pumped up about it then Cloud was because Cloud knew deep down that the darkness was manipulating him, and that his real battle was with Sephiroth and mostly himself. Thats why he didnt care that much about loosing to Sora.
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329 1)Cloud wasnt mad that he lost AFTER he got betrayed by hades. He wouldnt have wasted his time if he knew that hades was secretly betraying him.
2) The creators showed cloud really fast in that cutscene because its a CUTSCENE. They obviously didnt show cloud go that fast when you fight him because the player wouldnt be able to follow his movements. That doesnt go the same for sora.
3)If cloud knew that the darkness was manipulating him, then he wouldnt have wasted his time
aaabbbcccfgh 1 week ago
@aaabbbcccfgh 1) He didnt know for sure but you could tell he had a hunch. Thats why he is constantly staring at the ground wondering if this is the right way to find seph, thus, why he is confused and un-focused. 2) This has NOTHING to do with speed. Your just ignoring the point i made :( 3) Again, he had a FEELING but he didnt know for sure, so he tried trusting Hades and it didnt work. Again, this is why he looks so confused/ unfocused/ unsure during this whole scene and fight.
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329 on some kid.
4) On a side note, this is sora during the beginning of kh1. He gets a SHITLOAD stronger and faster after this. Not saying that cloud doesnt get stronger, but he's not on the same level on sora.
Also i'm surprised neither of us said "fanboy," or "go fu** yourself fag." I like it, its civilized :D
aaabbbcccfgh 1 week ago
@aaabbbcccfgh 4) On a side note, KH and Final fantasy are 2 completely different games and nothing chronologically links the 2 game franchises. Sora may have gotten stronger as you say but this has no relevence since you cant put it on a time line with Cloud`s progression and strength growth. I still disagree with your assumption that Sora is stronger but you cant compare the 2 games like that.
Also, im not going to bitch you out even though we disagree on everything. I can be civil too. :D
docbach329 1 week ago
@docbach329 1)yeah i guess you can tell he had a small hunch but that doesnt change the fact that he was fighting a unexperienced sora.
2)I'm not sure you understood me. I'm saying that if cloud were to fight you as fast as he fought sephiroth (in the cutscene), then the player wouldnt be able to follow cloud. Cloud would just be constantly hitting you and the battle would be over before you will be able to even block. I hope i explained this right.
aaabbbcccfgh 1 week ago
@docbach329 3)Yes, ff and kh arent really linked. Its just all cameos. I'm saying that sora is stronger because these this was the beginning of sora's journey. They both get stronger but cloud fought sora when cloud already knew some form of fighting. We can go back and forth on saying who's stronger but i really don't feel like doing that, and i don't think you wanna do it either. But thanks for not lashing out on me, all the arguments I've gotten into on this topic didnt end so well :(
aaabbbcccfgh 1 week ago
eff final mix and it's super special awesome extras.
HollowRangiku 2 months ago
I'm just now noticing that Sephiroth is fighing with his right hand even though he's supposed to be left-handed...
AsbelLhant100 2 months ago
@AsbelLhant100
It's a reference to the fact that all the characters from Final Fantasy games fight you with a handicap or go easy on you.
ballrdd24 2 months ago 2
@ballrdd24 That's true...didn't think about it that way.
AsbelLhant100 2 months ago
@ballrdd24 Sephiroth fights with both hands...
aaabbbcccfgh 2 weeks ago
@aaabbbcccfgh
He favors his left hand, not his right.
ballrdd24 2 weeks ago
@ballrdd24 There's not much difference between the two. And your underestimating sora, he's not as slow as your implying him to be. I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy but note that sora fought him at the BEGINNING of the game. He gets alot stronger you know...
aaabbbcccfgh 2 weeks ago
Lol- that is what I would of said is Sora had jumped in there and said-- "THATS THE POWER OF THE KEYBLADE" right when the two started fighting each other which is obviously EPIC
332211ggGHGFF 2 months ago 3
@froakentoken3 my console has sadly broken down :( and it'll be in better graphic, if it's remade, right?
crueltyvictim 3 months ago
course the kingdom hearts sephiroth fight is badass mother fucker and final fantasy seven sephiroth isnt badass mother fucker
froakentoken3 3 months ago
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slipknot666415 3 months ago
This is a weird scene, sephiroth is alot harder to beat then Cloud!
welonis 3 months ago
how i wish squarenix would remake ff7!
crueltyvictim 3 months ago
@crueltyvictim better idea than remaking final fantasy seven they sell an assload of copies of the original playstation 1 final fantasy seven in an assload of stores again
froakentoken3 3 months ago
I have to admit cloud looks a LOT more threatning on this then in any other game I've eever seen him at.
susanowolf 4 months ago
0:48 what the ..... Dragon Ball??
TehLoco23 5 months ago
Why is cloud dressed live Vincent Valentine and why does Sephiroth have Areis hair
keybladejedimaster22 5 months ago
@keybladejedimaster22 Kh is an alternate universe so they're backgrounds story and look are a little different.
moh490234890238490 5 months ago
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@keybladejedimaster22 Clouds entire Kingdom Hearts outfit is Vincent's. Square Enix was going to put Vincent in Kingdom Hearts but felt as if Vincent and Clouds personalities are too similar, so they decided not to put Vincent in the game and would pay homage to this by giving Cloud Vincent's outfit.
TaskDragoon 5 months ago
i think both of them are over compensating with these swords
hurten5151 5 months ago
They were better in their own game, always have been always will be
kingcainjr 5 months ago
fighting is always the answer
TheMagenius 5 months ago
@TheMagenius For Cloud and Sephiroth it is.
8877Pokemon 4 months ago
It takes a level 10 Sora to beat Cloud but a freakin level 75 to beat Sephiroth. I agree that Sephiroth will win. Dont you agree?
Alpharock27 6 months ago
@Alpharock27 it does say that cloud was holding back when he fought sora.
Conscript626 5 months ago
@Conscript626 Still, its like almost a 60 level difference to fight.
Alpharock27 5 months ago
okay, these guys fight like caged dogs. dang!!
danny5357 6 months ago
:O one question... HOW THE HECK CAN THEY FLY WITH ONLY 1 WING?!?! XD I haven't played any final fantasies so if the answer is on there then i haven't seen it. :) and Cloud went easy on Sora :O look at him! HES LIKE LIGHTNING SPEED!!!
ChikoritaGirl1 6 months ago 3
@ChikoritaGirl1 If you have seen Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children... Tell me how they can go like 300 feet in the air on a single jump!
kosjeyr 1 week ago
*purrrrrrrr* he's got a wingggg
SaraLarkSparrow 6 months ago
Why are there bandages on the Buster Sword? Did the sword get a boo boo?
JamesOhGoodie 6 months ago
@JamesOhGoodie
..l... In Advent children it goes destroyed...
DogGhost21 6 months ago
Where can you make it happen in the game?I have defeated sephiroth and cloud and no such video was shown.
nizogos 6 months ago
@nizogos you can only get this at the final mix version
everithingbyeveryone 6 months ago
whoooooo.....now that is big show
damn
abokif 6 months ago
The KH2 fight was better. This was short and way more anti-climatic.
shiningknight23 6 months ago
WHY IS SEPHY USING HIS RIGHT?I THought he was a lefty O.o
ulba12 6 months ago
why is couds sword taped up in KH, if its to prevent an omnislash, then thats fucked up
DoGmAnGuY1758 7 months ago
Cloud won I mean think of this realistically clouds bigass sword would have broke sepiroths long thin and weak sword I mean facts are facts
nomnomnomkitteh 7 months ago
@nomnomnomkitteh Take a look in Advent Children. They clash several times and Sephiroth's sword never broke!
8877Pokemon 4 months ago
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How come it takes like a level 10 Sora to beat Cloud but then it takes like a level 70 Sora to beat Sephiroth that easily? O.o
Alpharock27 7 months ago
How come it takes like a lvl 10 sora or whatever to beat clous but then you have to be lvl 70 to beat sephiroth that easily O.o
Alpharock27 7 months ago
This is fucking amazing, i can't remember when i saw this o:
kiirsttx 8 months ago
How do you get this????? I think it's in KH1, but idk!!!! Someone please tell me!!!!
Trace3690 8 months ago
@Trace3690 It's only in the japanese version of the game, no other way of getting it i'm afraid
strifey07 7 months ago
@strifey07 Dang....Japanese have the best everything... XP
Trace3690 7 months ago
@Trace3690
They are actually having stupid politics and even dumber police though
octapusxft 7 months ago
@Trace3690 Apparently you can't get it in KH1. You can only get it in the Mix version which is only Japanese. -.-'
8877Pokemon 4 months ago
Lance Bass!?
MallyVision 9 months ago
@toastylotus I think this is in Kingdom Hearts Final Mix OR Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories. Definantly not KH2 of course. xD
ThatSpriteDude 9 months ago
ok um i have one thing to point out ummm WHY IS SEPHIROTH RIGHT HANDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! o and why does cloud have a wing on his left shoulder
souleater4242564kodd 9 months ago
why is sephiroth right handed?
VampRosario 9 months ago
THATS IT? THATS THE ENTIRE BATTLE!
Cipher8492 10 months ago
that just shows you that cloud was always holding back whenever he fought sora
kungfu088 10 months ago
@kungfu088 Of course he was. Cloud and Seph could kill him in this one maybe not in KH2 however if Cloud killed Sora who would inherit the keyblade and save the world from the heartless? lol
Clouddark23 8 months ago
please contribute your prayers and support to Japan in this time of need.... its time we gave to back to a country that has given so much to the world.
bassgasmask 10 months ago
it's stupid how the best scenes only get released on a final mix and it doesn't even come to north america
1314kingdomhearts 11 months ago 51
@1314kingdomhearts but it did lol
KobraKrimson 9 months ago
@KobraKrimson IT DID!
1314kingdomhearts 9 months ago
@1314kingdomhearts oops haha wrong video, in know KH2FM+ was released here, but really to play KH1FM, all you need is a badass computer and a ps2 emulator :D
KobraKrimson 9 months ago
@1314kingdomhearts Final Mix and International versions are freaking stupid. It's the game IN ENGLISH only the commands are in Japanese.
renoloverxoxo 4 months ago
@1314kingdomhearts They came to youtube. I don't have to do any work here.
icianthea 3 months ago
@1314kingdomhearts thank god for youtube =D
voigtyv2 2 months ago
thay just need to hug this out
boomdoom5 11 months ago 37
@boomdoom5 oh god this just made my day xD
Vikksi2796 3 months ago
how'd you see this video???? i'll subscribe if you reply with the truth
The15180 11 months ago
@The15180 Not in the US version of Kingdom Hearts. This is a scene exclusive to Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, which was only released in Japan.
Blaid 11 months ago
how'd you see this video????
The15180 11 months ago
Coulda been longer?
Agree?
LolifiedByMe 11 months ago 3
Squall would kick these two butts and after that leave saying "whatever"
MrGriever182 1 year ago
I have to be honest, I played through Kingdom Hearts 1 and did basicly every boss battle I could find, beat Sephiroth and got Sora to 100 Str but I never saw this battle scene, how do you unlock?
srperc 1 year ago
@srperc its in final mix only 4 japan
ZelTheGamer 1 year ago
cloud could go to final fantasy universe :b
Theredevalotion 1 year ago
lol cloud goes to hit him then sephiroth warps in to the air like cant touch this
masterinuyasha569 1 year ago
its in final mix but not the original
TheBen2424 1 year ago
when is this scene on the game if it is?
ProudMexican3 1 year ago
its so awesome that this costume is going to be in the new dissidia
blackwing736 1 year ago
i never got why they have wings in this game they didnt have them in FF7 so like why randomly do they have them here
wallace0120 1 year ago
@wallace0120
Sephiroth did have wings in his final form but not like that. Sephiroth's theme song is also called "One winged Angel". Cloud on the other hand apparently gets his wing from Hades when he uses the power of darkness.
brettjr25 1 year ago
when did this happen?
siany121 1 year ago
uh. When did this cutscene happen?
AlzzuGuitar 1 year ago
o.o this aint dragonball Z how can they fly in the air like goku?
TheFriedSandwich 1 year ago
@TheFriedSandwich they have wings lol
ExiaGundam19 1 year ago
@TheFriedSandwich bitch they look like goku
NeoShinobi 1 year ago
@NeoShinobi No they dont. Goku looks like them.
TheFriedSandwich 1 year ago
the dualshock is on
charzzariah 1 year ago
how do you unlock this scene i defeated sephiroth but i dident get this scene can somone tell me whats up?
warcrafter7774 1 year ago
sephiroth lose? or cloud
s64hackslol 1 year ago
sephy:i love you!
cloud:OMGWTF
legefy 1 year ago
wait a minute!! Sephiroth is left handed!! not right handed
evilwarriorx 1 year ago
these 2 have been battling since I was a kid & I got a feeling that they gonna be battling long after I'm dead & gone
BasmentGuy3000 1 year ago
what is that black thing under his cape it looks like a wing XD
Shadowwolf11630 1 year ago
@Shadowwolf11630 it is a wing
goimei 1 year ago
i wonder if there is a pic where it combines cloud and sephiroth half and half cause cloud has one side of the wing and sephiroth has the other
disinterested22 1 year ago
it doesnt matter when or where... all that matters is that seph fights cloud... hahaha!!! but i like seph more now... bcuz of dissidia... xD entrauns interies ire vehementi sephiroth!!! xD
protossoverlord09 1 year ago
Can't wait for the Remake of Kingdom Hearts for 3DS!
Morgengrauenengel 1 year ago
Sephiroth is left handed and cloud does not have a wing D:
Endaviour 1 year ago
@Endaviour
Sephiroth can hold his blade with either hand, and Cloud's appearance just like sephiroth has been altered a pinch to fit the Theme of the Game
jjdabaddes 1 year ago
I never this scene existed???
Arbin321 1 year ago
@Arbin321 Its only on the Kingdom Hearts Final Mix which is only in japan
Netherwolf6100 1 year ago
cloud: SWING WEEE!!!! WTF IM FLYING!!! HEY NO FAIR UR FLOATING
Sephiroth: THATS IT IM OPENING A TELEPORT
XEDRA2 1 year ago
if they make a KH3 i wonder what final fantasy characters they'll put in
leo7278 1 year ago
@leo7278 lightning if we're lucky
ChaosRain786 1 year ago
so much electricity, no wonder cloud's hair is so spiky
factman666 1 year ago 3
i always thought you could play as cloud in either k h 1 or k h 2?
102611ful 1 year ago
Square-Enix made the mistake of putting Sephiroth right handed in this game. ^^ When in FFVII, he is left handed. Still epic though. ;D
cutesaltywaffles 1 year ago
I wish Vincent appeared in KH. It's not enough that Cloud has his cape ;-;
BTW, Lance Bass fails as a Sephiroth >->
chiaP3 1 year ago
and his claw...
XxkloudxX354 1 year ago
Wait a minute....why does Cloud have the wing? hes not a Jenova project is he?
Ampifada 1 year ago
@Ampifada Well actually if you play ff7 crisis core. You play as zack who evetually teams up with cloud. In the end they get exposed to a lot of mako(or whatever it is) and thats probably what caused that in cloud for KH1
Idk000000 1 year ago
@Idk000000 I did play Crisis Core but I thought that the wing was a Jenova trait because then if all SOLDIER members were carrying mako energy which Zack said was the SOLDIER trait then wouldnt they give them higher ammounts of make energy so they had the power of the wing?
Ampifada 1 year ago
@Ampifada thats a good point. maybe so. i mean angeal had a wing
Idk000000 1 year ago
@Idk000000 Angeals mother was a Jenova project Project G (Project Gillian) so he had Jenova traits
Ampifada 1 year ago
@Idk000000 I think its safe to say that the reason why cloud has the whole wing and vincent cape thing in kh1, is because it was an extra power bonus that hades gave him in his contract, thats why when you fight cloud he has dark powers hades gave those to him (noruma did say that cloud in kh1 was using dark powers and he wanted to show cloud as a more dark person) and sephiroth in the kh sereis is just a manifestation of clouds own inner darkness that takes his form
marie90 1 year ago
how come Cloud didn't fight like that against sora and Cerberus.
Flotsome 1 year ago
@Flotsome Because the hate he has towards Sephiroth is far greater then anyone else. Then it gets personal.
sadisticrebel 1 year ago
@sadisticrebel wow that explanation actually makes me feel better about him losing to sora and getting beat up by cerabrus
Flotsome 1 year ago
kick his ass cloud kick his ass! cloud is just so dang hawtt...wow.
tonna91 1 year ago
ME GUSTA EL REINO DE LOS CORAZONES 0.0 =o
tortadelabardaomar 1 year ago
why did sephiroth get a huge-ass wing but cloud only got a regular sized wing?
thingsdie9 1 year ago
electricty, high-paced fighting, teleporting, its like dbz but with swords.
kejixigbar 1 year ago
@kejixigbar So it's Bleach?
Koukoro 1 year ago
Sephiroth is so cool
yaoiqueen2627 1 year ago
sephiroth would domonate cloud for 1 i beat cloud without getting hit but against sephiroth i still havent beat him
kingdomheartsrocks09 1 year ago
@kingdomheartsrocks09 What about Cloud with his wing out the entire fight with electricity around him... Oh wait, never mind! You can't hurt him when he's like that. You lose!
WolfSyn 1 year ago
@WolfSyn go fuck yourself sephiroth wins
kingdomheartsrocks09 1 year ago
I fucking love it when cloud and sephirot swing their 1billion freakin tons swords like a piece of paper :D
derc4N 1 year ago 67
@derc4N i know its freakin awesome!
tonna91 1 year ago
@derc4N Masamune is very easy to wield.But Cloud's sword,that requires strength to lift up.
YuriRPG 1 year ago
@derc4N ha ha so do i :)
ellolove4 1 year ago
badass bitches^^
megranthon7312 1 year ago 16
you know in the manga sora loses to cloud and if you lose to him in the game the story still goes on. cloud kicked my ass on expert lol
kykiske05 2 years ago
Haha I won First ry to of course
i did something smart i trained up lv 9 on destiny island and get scan so there for i saw clouds Hp and i won against Leon too i havent Died yet im at lv 46 no dies
UltimentZeldaFan1 1 year ago
Since this scene is obtained
altair658 2 years ago
HEY those who saw FF Advent Children did anyone else notice that in this game cloud is wearing Vincent Valentine's cape and his armor hand?
PunkItachi 2 years ago 3
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UltimentZeldaFan1 1 year ago
@PunkItachi Yeah I was wondering why that was....
LoNgShOt5250 1 year ago
if cloud and sephiroth can do that y didnt they use it against sora ??????
damax1243 2 years ago
does this even connect with ff7 if it does how??
lol is the right after ff7 or what
some1 straight this out for me
Neji2XL 2 years ago
@Neji2XL It has nothing to do with FFVII. Neither do the activities of Cloud and company in the second game.
LoNgShOt5250 1 year ago
when I beat Sephiroth I never saw this!!!!!!
Nabil6901 2 years ago
i dont remember the buster blade having cloth wrapped around it
The9thFendalus 2 years ago 3
@The9thFendalus People do that sort of thing just to spice up characters to make them more interesting. i dont remember him having a red cape either. But i prefer the KH2 version.
spencerinomusic 2 years ago
how did you make this video??
deathbringer74123 2 years ago