I remember seeing this on Georgia Wrestling, we were laughing so damn hard...then the next time Ladd came on, first thing he says to Gordon Solie is "I smell WHISKEY...You been drinking Gordon? Then it must have been that drunken Indian..."
the best sleeper holds in the bussiness, belong too verne gagne and pat o'connor.. vince mc'mahon ruin wrestling. bring back the territories, . when wrestling meant something
"Big Cat" Ernie Ladd on GCW and MACW best wrestling EVER! Bring back the days of territorial wrestling, when world titles actually meant something. RIP AWA
Wrestling at its best. Growing up, watching this on TBS, brings back alot of great memories. Freddie Miller's "Don't miss it, BE THERE!" The stories were well done, the matches were tops. The heat the wrestlers got from the fans was 1000% better then anything WWE/TNA brings. The fans were into. Today's "Sports Entertainment" is a joke. Finally, can't anyone beat the "Dean of Wrestling" Gordon Solie (R.I.P.)
Maybe its me but when I found out Jay Strongbow wasn't an Indian/Native American, I stopped liking him. Wrestling is full of racial/racist gimmicks and angles but his was too much. It was almost a mockery of the Native American/Indian wrestlers of the day.
@Davidhgi its not racist - it is a character, like on TV or in a movie. It is supposed to evoke a response, a reaction and an emotion. And when the Chief started dancing - no one did it better!
It is racist. It would be a form of "blackface" because he's portraying a stereotypical Native American. It's not like there weren't plenty of wrestlers of Native American heritage around at the time.
@Davidhgi People throw out the "racist" card way too often. Jay was playing a character and that character is Indian. If there was and Indian or American Indian or Native American out there who had the charisma that Strongbow had they would have been in that role.
@Davidhgi Don't know my Native American wrestlers - your not reading my comments the right way. Wahoo, Brisco's make my point exactly - if you are over you are over, regardless of race or creed. All I'm saying is Jay was doing what he was doing to put food in his families mouth and he found a gimmick that worked for him. And if that was making you the "Mark" believe he was an Indian, then he did his job, stereotype or not.
@Davidhgi. It was like for me when I found out that character in Short Circuit wasn't Indian. That Ben Jabituya character that Fisher Stevens turned me off. I'm made sure not to watch any films by him or anybody afterwards of who was involved with it concerning the writers, producers, and directors. Ally Sheedy. I won't hold against.
The Don kent - Jay Strongbow angle i remember vividly! It was positively great. They fought and feuded around the Detroit territory for many months and it was constantly on tv every week! They really made the most of it! One of the old Sheik's territory's greatest feuds!
Actually it was not the end as Chief Jay Strongbow wrestled for a few more years as I recall. The first time an Indian headdress got ripped apart in the ring was by a wrestler under the name Bulldog Don Kent. What he didn't know was that the headdress was not a store bought propt but a real headdress. When this fact came out, the Bulldog made a public apology but his career was over due to it. It was back 1975 I believe and Indian/White racial tensions were high at this time.
Kent wrestled for many more years, often on or near the top, after that. In 1975, the only people that would have seen that angle are the ones in the territory. If he had the wrong kind of heat there, he would just go somewhere else.
This was an awesome storyline. Psychology like this is what's missing from sports entertainment today. I love how the crowd would get quiet when Strongbow would try to revive him. They were eating this stuff up! I was too watching at home when I was like 10 years old. Hell, I'm eating it up right now.
The Chief had to go back to the reservation and explain to the tribal elders how he allowed Ladd to humiliate him. They told Strongbow that he brought shame and disgrace to the tribe and nation. They stripped him of his chiefhood and told him he could no longer teach and instruct the braves because they need someone they revere and respect teaching them skills and customs. This was the end of the Chief.
To: backdiesel and others: I apologize. I did not know about the handshake from Ernie Ladd to Jay Strongbow. I only followed Georgia Championship Wrestling via wrestling magazines during the 1970's and 1980 (I was in the Mid-Atlantic Wrestling territory); until my family purchased cable television in 1981. Then, I started following Georgia Championship Wrestling,Mid-South Wrestling, Southwest Championship Wrestling, and others.
You are a funny dude! That whole incidenet was funny as hell!!(LoL). I miss those days. To:(#77) All-Pro Football player and wrestler Mr. Ernest "Ernie" Ladd (1938-2007): You are so sorely missed, my brotha(RIP).
Jay Strongbow showed that he is nothing but a dirty wrastler. Ernie Ladd, ever the gentleman, comes in to shake his hand and say good job and Strongbow brutally attacks him.
This was a time-honored gimmick for all "Indian" wrestlers. It happened with Wahoo McDaniel a few times as well (one of the more memorable involved "Raging Bull" Manny Fernandez). In the 1990s in WWF, they did this angle with Tatanka getting this treatment from Irwin R. Shyster (oddly enough, Strongbow was acting as Tatanka's "manager" at the time).
@ccie12933 To be fair, Wahoo was a former AFL/NFL linebacker (and a legitimate Native American to boot). He had a long-standing reputation as a tough guy. Strongbow was over 50 years old in this footage (he retired 5 years later). Strongbow wasn't bad in the ring in the early '70s when he started using this gimmick, but he wasn't very good at promos. When he debuted as this character in 1970 in WWWF, he had already been wrestling for over 20 years.
@elc1960 Sounds like you're a whiskey drinker! ; )
Sure, I understand that. And also to be fair, Strongbow's best days by far were in the WWWF, where violent matches and/or terribly realistic matches were not at a premium.
Shocking, how a big Black, Texas cowboy would desimate a Native American Cultural group Leader on national television, in the name of what you people now call sports entertainment.
@carl22069 Again, EXACTLY...Strongbow's routine was so predictable it was hilarious...even my friends who we're fans would say what was going to happen when they saw he was one of the wrestlers..."When will the War Dance start - and the opponent's blows have NO EFFECT!?" Then would come the chop, kneelift, and sometimes off the rope into the sleeper hold...YAWN! Anyway, man this sure did bring back memories with the feather stuffing etc.
They invented the need to "wake up" a sleeper hold victim for this angle. Since when then someone to wake up someone after a sleeper hold. If that's true, then obviously all of Ted Dibiase and Brutus the Barber's opponents must have died because they were never revived.
I wonder how many times between them that Strongbow and Wahoo McDaniel did the ol' "heel tears up the sacred headdress" angle. It always cracked me up because Solie would make such a huge deal out of it, as if it was the only one in existence, given to him by his great-grandfather, the sacred Indian Chief of the Potowotomaniac tribe.
@rockytheyorky-Well, yeah of course i did-growing up in Florida in the late 70's as a rabid NWA fan pretty much ensured i'd know Solie. I dont even understand your question/comment-didnt i just mention how Solie would put such gravitas into such angles as Wahoo's sacred headdress getting torn up? Uh, ok, anyway...back on Earth...
Wow, I'm an old 80's wrestling fan, but when I see things like this I wonder how many of my memories I've unknowingly enhanced over time! Strongbow is pathetic; I know there were a lot less practitioners of "stiff" work, but man, at least put a little strength into your awkward blows...I'm sure Ernie Ladd could have taken a forefinger to the skull without you pulling back.
@miamiderek1 If it makes you feel any better, I thought Strongbow was terrible THEN. :) Just think of Wahoo's chops and memories of Strongebow will go away.
@miamiderek1 Strongbow was a better, stiffer worker back in the early to mid-70s (and a younger one as well - he was over 50 years old in this clip). Strongbow retired in late 1984 and became a WWF road agent. There are better clips of the Chief here on YouTube. Check out his matches against the Sheik and Greg "The Hammer" Valentine for better examples of his abilities. Wahoo McDaniel was stiffer, but Strongbow wasn't bad either in younger days.
One of my first memories of rasslin was back in the mid-60s, when Joe Scarpa worked as enhancement talent for Roy Shire in San Francisco, and Ray Stevens "broke his leg" in a TV match.
In the mid 7o's though the early 80's Stronbow was not exclusive to the WWF. He was in Detroit, GA, and some other indy groups. He even worked with outlaw Jim Wilson.
@franklin81 Well the idea was that a guy had to know exactly what he was doing or else it would permanently injure the man who was unconscious so in wrestling terms the referee couldn't actually do it.
@funkyflashman My memory could be faulty, but I believe that Spiros Arion and Scarpa did the exact same angle years earlier in the northeast when Arion took his heel turn. Same thing as this, with Strongbow tied up in the ropes, the headdress torn apart and feathers shoved in his mouth. I remember Strongbow crying while picking up and cradling feathers afterward. Very convincing at the time, actually. That was probably around 1976 or thereabouts.
@Corbu3 Not faulty - your memory was only about a year off. It happened in early 1975 on "Championship Wrestling". The Chief had just returned a few weeks before from the Sheik's Detroit promotion, and had been teaming with Arion since his return. That "heel" turn set up two feuds for Arion: one with the Chief, and one with then-WWWF champ Bruno Sammartino.
Chief Jay Nosebow..."I'm going to hurt you, and you can write that down". Chaucer never sounded better.
ChesterFanningChorno 3 days ago
So that's who Vince got his commentating voice from...
mrtrin 6 days ago
I had no idea that Bobby Heenan started as a ref.
Jim1068 6 days ago
I remember seeing this on Georgia Wrestling, we were laughing so damn hard...then the next time Ladd came on, first thing he says to Gordon Solie is "I smell WHISKEY...You been drinking Gordon? Then it must have been that drunken Indian..."
mulehead126 6 days ago
that's the wrestling that i remember as a kid! good old fashioned brawling.
MrManfly 1 week ago
the best sleeper holds in the bussiness, belong too verne gagne and pat o'connor.. vince mc'mahon ruin wrestling. bring back the territories, . when wrestling meant something
WILBURSNYDER 1 week ago
One of the best bits I have saw and I I've been watching for years. Those were the days. I loved Georgia wrestling.
mistycat1 2 weeks ago
"Big Cat" Ernie Ladd on GCW and MACW best wrestling EVER! Bring back the days of territorial wrestling, when world titles actually meant something. RIP AWA
dmjones7022 2 weeks ago
"After being Pearl Harboured"......are todays announcers allowed to say "9/11ed"?
holidayrap 2 weeks ago
@holidayrap Yes, they have freedom of speech. It may not be very tasteful though.
borlorg 2 weeks ago
Strongbow was always the drizzlin shits.
weaselsuit 2 weeks ago
Spiros Arion did the same thing to Strongbow a few years before ! Poor Chief nobody but nobody respects the cheif's feathers !
wheatbull 2 weeks ago
Ernie Ladd former Mid Atlantic Heavyweight Champion.
baliw33 3 weeks ago
crazy
jimmychuang 3 weeks ago
That guy is more Italian than spaghetti.
reedkennethia 3 weeks ago
Is he Slick's dad?
chessarama 3 weeks ago
What is this Pimps and Indians? Lol
njsps72 1 month ago
I remember the "Champion of Champions " cup. I think Wrestling II was the only one to hold that .
dmenace4life 1 month ago
what year was this
meterman432110 1 month ago
@meterman432110 sometime in the early 80's, not sure exactly when
DanJ30 3 weeks ago
2 comments: the ring looked really small, and the ref with black-striped shirt sold getting thrown out of the ring really well
x1a0053 1 month ago
This show should have been seen in boring shows.... the host sucks....
TheStevieHWWE 1 month ago
that was a good promo he cut at the end. very realistic for it's time.
TeslaDRay 1 month ago
you guys do realize this isnt real?
JustinP 1 month ago
@JustinP Do you realize, that you aren't real???
Konni1969 1 month ago
@JustinP It isn't? My preconceived notions of professional wrestling are shattered!
semicorrect 1 month ago
nice to see Ernie Ladd giving Strongbow what he deserves
oldjms1965 1 month ago
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cheif jay looks like gypsy joe
seaniekay 2 months ago
cheif jay looks like gypsy joe
seaniekay 2 months ago
Next time Chief, Dont wake him up.
MrJohnnyrace 2 months ago
those were the glory days of wrestling. how i miss the tv studio that seated about 50 ppl screaming and hollering and the excitement.
mrknowitalllt1 2 months ago
Wrestling at its best. Growing up, watching this on TBS, brings back alot of great memories. Freddie Miller's "Don't miss it, BE THERE!" The stories were well done, the matches were tops. The heat the wrestlers got from the fans was 1000% better then anything WWE/TNA brings. The fans were into. Today's "Sports Entertainment" is a joke. Finally, can't anyone beat the "Dean of Wrestling" Gordon Solie (R.I.P.)
CadillacL 2 months ago
Well, why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact that the match ending was very lame
Baltimoreman78 2 months ago
The announcer Freddy Miller hated announcing for wrestling but he did a good job anyway. The incident was fake but it was a dman good fake.
Cainkane1 3 months ago
The announcer Freddy Miller hated announcing for wrestling but he did a good job anyway.
Cainkane1 3 months ago
Oh man, I feel so fortunate to have watched wrestling back in this day........it was a truly great time
scstxr 3 months ago
and remember, if u put someone down with a sleeper hold, its YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to awaken him...
bettydaw1970 3 months ago
@bettydaw1970 Back then, the sleeper was a real hold. Today the sleeper is a joke like the figure four.
hammermjh 3 weeks ago
So is Chief Jay an Indian or Cowboy?
Dietpepsivanilla 3 months ago
Maybe its me but when I found out Jay Strongbow wasn't an Indian/Native American, I stopped liking him. Wrestling is full of racial/racist gimmicks and angles but his was too much. It was almost a mockery of the Native American/Indian wrestlers of the day.
Davidhgi 3 months ago
@Davidhgi its not racist - it is a character, like on TV or in a movie. It is supposed to evoke a response, a reaction and an emotion. And when the Chief started dancing - no one did it better!
mink31 3 months ago
@mink31
It is racist. It would be a form of "blackface" because he's portraying a stereotypical Native American. It's not like there weren't plenty of wrestlers of Native American heritage around at the time.
Davidhgi 1 month ago
@Davidhgi People throw out the "racist" card way too often. Jay was playing a character and that character is Indian. If there was and Indian or American Indian or Native American out there who had the charisma that Strongbow had they would have been in that role.
mink31 1 month ago
@mink31
Mink, I don't care anything about people throwing out the mythical "race card". I'm talkingh specifically about this one example.
You don't think Wahoo McDaniels, The Briscos and later Jay Youngblood had equal or greater charisma? You don't know your Native American wrestlers.
Wrestling is about playing character but in the 70s, it was presented as legit and Strongbow was pretending to be a stereotypical "Indian".
Davidhgi 1 month ago
@Davidhgi Don't know my Native American wrestlers - your not reading my comments the right way. Wahoo, Brisco's make my point exactly - if you are over you are over, regardless of race or creed. All I'm saying is Jay was doing what he was doing to put food in his families mouth and he found a gimmick that worked for him. And if that was making you the "Mark" believe he was an Indian, then he did his job, stereotype or not.
mink31 1 month ago
@mink31 Okay. He found a way to make money and it's still a racist gimmick. Those two things are exclusive of each other.
Davidhgi 1 month ago
@mink31 Agreed!
samsdaddy0525 1 month ago
@Davidhgi. It was like for me when I found out that character in Short Circuit wasn't Indian. That Ben Jabituya character that Fisher Stevens turned me off. I'm made sure not to watch any films by him or anybody afterwards of who was involved with it concerning the writers, producers, and directors. Ally Sheedy. I won't hold against.
Ariamaluum 1 month ago
@Ariamaluum
That's how I felt. I used to like Strongbow but when I found out he wasn't NA, it really changed how I saw him.
Davidhgi 1 month ago
This made me laugh my ass off. Fake but a good fake.
Cainkane1 4 months ago
The announcer is Gordon Solie you idiots
angrybobby1 5 months ago
The Don kent - Jay Strongbow angle i remember vividly! It was positively great. They fought and feuded around the Detroit territory for many months and it was constantly on tv every week! They really made the most of it! One of the old Sheik's territory's greatest feuds!
Doug41160 6 months ago
Actually it was not the end as Chief Jay Strongbow wrestled for a few more years as I recall. The first time an Indian headdress got ripped apart in the ring was by a wrestler under the name Bulldog Don Kent. What he didn't know was that the headdress was not a store bought propt but a real headdress. When this fact came out, the Bulldog made a public apology but his career was over due to it. It was back 1975 I believe and Indian/White racial tensions were high at this time.
Bear44mc 6 months ago
@Bear44mc
Kent wrestled for many more years, often on or near the top, after that. In 1975, the only people that would have seen that angle are the ones in the territory. If he had the wrong kind of heat there, he would just go somewhere else.
Davidhgi 3 months ago
The announcer is Freddie Miller
mdhotstuff 7 months ago
This was an awesome storyline. Psychology like this is what's missing from sports entertainment today. I love how the crowd would get quiet when Strongbow would try to revive him. They were eating this stuff up! I was too watching at home when I was like 10 years old. Hell, I'm eating it up right now.
piercdbruh 7 months ago
This is wrestling at it best!!
cjjheyheyheyhey 7 months ago
is this jim ross????????????????
Gullwingsofrock 7 months ago
@Gullwingsofrock The Announcer is Freddie Miller
mdhotstuff 7 months ago
"im gonna hurt you...you can just write that down."
King2123 7 months ago
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The Chief had to go back to the reservation and explain to the tribal elders how he allowed Ladd to humiliate him. They told Strongbow that he brought shame and disgrace to the tribe and nation. They stripped him of his chiefhood and told him he could no longer teach and instruct the braves because they need someone they revere and respect teaching them skills and customs. This was the end of the Chief.
spinichchin 7 months ago 5
@spinichchin then he went back to being an Italian
JoeyPencils 1 month ago
@spinichchin The same thing happened to Tatanka. That's why he joined the Corporation.
chessarama 3 weeks ago
@chessarama Yep! IRS and Tatanka. I remember watching that thinking, "where have I seen this???"
JasonBassn 3 weeks ago
This is some funny stuff. I miss these days.
jive5willie 8 months ago
pretty bad acting
picark 8 months ago
To: backdiesel and others: I apologize. I did not know about the handshake from Ernie Ladd to Jay Strongbow. I only followed Georgia Championship Wrestling via wrestling magazines during the 1970's and 1980 (I was in the Mid-Atlantic Wrestling territory); until my family purchased cable television in 1981. Then, I started following Georgia Championship Wrestling,Mid-South Wrestling, Southwest Championship Wrestling, and others.
obaeng 8 months ago
To: blackdiesel:
You are a funny dude! That whole incidenet was funny as hell!!(LoL). I miss those days. To:(#77) All-Pro Football player and wrestler Mr. Ernest "Ernie" Ladd (1938-2007): You are so sorely missed, my brotha(RIP).
obaeng 8 months ago
And on this episode of Politically Incorrect....
denzelsnipes69 8 months ago
Jay Strongbow showed that he is nothing but a dirty wrastler. Ernie Ladd, ever the gentleman, comes in to shake his hand and say good job and Strongbow brutally attacks him.
litehouse6 8 months ago 8
@litehouse6 LMAO! lol you should do commentary to these matches and say stuff like that I would watch it lol
AudioAndroid 5 days ago
@litehouse6 LOL, you must be a Bobby "the Brain" Heenan fan. Or wait a minute, is this Bobby himself ha ha?
BradNC11175 2 days ago
nothing better than small studio heat!
oscarforce1 8 months ago
How surprised I was to find out that Strongbow was Italian!!
stevedrums 8 months ago
@stevedrums I thought he was Lebanese.
litehouse6 8 months ago
@litehouse6 his real name was Joe Scarpa... According to the legendary Capt Lou Albano, he was a member of the "Wop"ahoe Tribe
cherokee702 7 months ago 5
@cherokee702 Ha Ha!
truthspeakerism 1 month ago
This was a time-honored gimmick for all "Indian" wrestlers. It happened with Wahoo McDaniel a few times as well (one of the more memorable involved "Raging Bull" Manny Fernandez). In the 1990s in WWF, they did this angle with Tatanka getting this treatment from Irwin R. Shyster (oddly enough, Strongbow was acting as Tatanka's "manager" at the time).
elc1960 9 months ago
I saw Strongbow in same incident with Spiros Arion back 1974 or 1975 in wwwf
cosenza5916 9 months ago
referee scrappy mcgowen
TRJBASS 9 months ago
The humiliation, the degragation, it was beautiful!
spinichchin 9 months ago
Thank God for Iron Mike and Co.
ablrcklnthewall 10 months ago
Wahoo McDaniel would have kicked Jay Strongbow's ass.
ccie12933 10 months ago 11
@ccie12933 To be fair, Wahoo was a former AFL/NFL linebacker (and a legitimate Native American to boot). He had a long-standing reputation as a tough guy. Strongbow was over 50 years old in this footage (he retired 5 years later). Strongbow wasn't bad in the ring in the early '70s when he started using this gimmick, but he wasn't very good at promos. When he debuted as this character in 1970 in WWWF, he had already been wrestling for over 20 years.
elc1960 9 months ago
@elc1960 Sounds like you're a whiskey drinker! ; )
Sure, I understand that. And also to be fair, Strongbow's best days by far were in the WWWF, where violent matches and/or terribly realistic matches were not at a premium.
ccie12933 8 months ago
@ccie12933 I BROKE WAHOO'S LEG
KingFrank86 8 months ago
Shocking, how a big Black, Texas cowboy would desimate a Native American Cultural group Leader on national television, in the name of what you people now call sports entertainment.
Buckeyecat2002 10 months ago
@Buckeyecat2002 Hey moron, that was the point. That's why Ladd was a cad, because the big mean cowboy attacked the beloved native American.
fjccommish 10 months ago
"I'm gonna hurt you, Mr. Ladd...write that down..."...OOOOOOOOH!
mulehead126 11 months ago
I love how he repeatedly clears the ring of the refs...
mulehead126 11 months ago
A smarter Indian would have caught that old "grab the shoe" move...
mulehead126 11 months ago
@carl22069 Again, EXACTLY...Strongbow's routine was so predictable it was hilarious...even my friends who we're fans would say what was going to happen when they saw he was one of the wrestlers..."When will the War Dance start - and the opponent's blows have NO EFFECT!?" Then would come the chop, kneelift, and sometimes off the rope into the sleeper hold...YAWN! Anyway, man this sure did bring back memories with the feather stuffing etc.
mulehead126 11 months ago
@carl22069 Sadly Carl you are right about that!
mulehead126 11 months ago
Ernie Ladd did not like Indians. He didn't really like anyone, but Indians especially.
danteras23 11 months ago
Ernie Ladd = Greatest wrestler ever! Meanest mutha to ever step between the ropes.
danteras23 11 months ago
They invented the need to "wake up" a sleeper hold victim for this angle. Since when then someone to wake up someone after a sleeper hold. If that's true, then obviously all of Ted Dibiase and Brutus the Barber's opponents must have died because they were never revived.
PeeboTyson 11 months ago
@PeeboTyson ...heh...good one...
mulehead126 11 months ago
HE'S A WHISKEY DRINKER!!!
mulehead126 1 year ago
"...tremendous pressure on the carotid artery...."
eraffel 1 year ago
@eraffel LOLOL yep!
mulehead126 11 months ago
Even a drunken Indian could do a better promo than Strongbow...Ladd's promos were great, Chief Jay Scarpa was a clown...
mulehead126 1 year ago
Strongbow was a terrible road agent and couldn't cut an interview for shit.
cobrakai84 1 year ago
He shouldn't have attacked Ernie Ladd, Ladd just came in to congratulate him and Strong Bow jumped him.
blackdiesel 1 year ago 14
@blackdiesel totally!!!!!
bettydaw1970 3 months ago
Chief Jay Strongbow = Joe Scarpa in Florida in the 70s!
WhiskyRnR 1 year ago
The great Freddie Miller :)
CadillacL 1 year ago
Why is it that only the person who applies the Sleeper Hold can wake up the victim? Shouldn't the ref be trained in waking up Sleeper Hold victims?
csilrun 1 year ago
Good for Ernie Ladd. If that Idian had just woke him up like the ref asked, none of this would have happened.
muta157 1 year ago
That ref bump at 5:29 looked pretty damn painful!
herbgardner420 1 year ago
It was channel 6 in Augusta.
NAYellowjackets 1 year ago
I wonder how many times between them that Strongbow and Wahoo McDaniel did the ol' "heel tears up the sacred headdress" angle. It always cracked me up because Solie would make such a huge deal out of it, as if it was the only one in existence, given to him by his great-grandfather, the sacred Indian Chief of the Potowotomaniac tribe.
miamiderek1 1 year ago
@miamiderek1 Thats why Gordon Solie was the greatest Wrestling announcer of all time,apparently you never saw Gordon?
rockytheyorky 1 year ago
@rockytheyorky-Well, yeah of course i did-growing up in Florida in the late 70's as a rabid NWA fan pretty much ensured i'd know Solie. I dont even understand your question/comment-didnt i just mention how Solie would put such gravitas into such angles as Wahoo's sacred headdress getting torn up? Uh, ok, anyway...back on Earth...
miamiderek1 1 year ago
Love the big brimmed "pimp" hat Ladd is sporting in this. '70s fashions are always comedy gold.
elc1960 1 year ago
the ref took a better bump than the chief ever did ;)
JoeyPencils 1 year ago
This was truly a volatile situation !!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
YankeesFlair 1 year ago
I remember the old days when the guy had to 'wake up' his opponent after applying the dreaded sleeper hold...
hansumjoe 1 year ago
why did the Chief attack him
JoeyPencils 1 year ago
@JoeyPencils Probably Ernie was waiting to strike. He always called Strongbow "drunken Indian".
yardlet6 1 year ago
did the same thing with Spiros Arion when Arion turned on him back in late '74-early '75
horseman420 1 year ago
funny how at the end interview he has a cowboy hat on.............. guess the old west shop was out of headdresses. great footage
pitdog34 1 year ago
Strongbow learned a valuble lesson-NEVER under-estimate THE BIG CAT!!!
soln4suhreborn 1 year ago 2
Don't you just miss old school wrestling. The Big Cat! Wow, I loved Ladd. He was a classic heel and he loved every minute of it.
frogca 1 year ago
Wow, I'm an old 80's wrestling fan, but when I see things like this I wonder how many of my memories I've unknowingly enhanced over time! Strongbow is pathetic; I know there were a lot less practitioners of "stiff" work, but man, at least put a little strength into your awkward blows...I'm sure Ernie Ladd could have taken a forefinger to the skull without you pulling back.
miamiderek1 1 year ago 2
@miamiderek1 If it makes you feel any better, I thought Strongbow was terrible THEN. :) Just think of Wahoo's chops and memories of Strongebow will go away.
ccie12933 1 year ago
@miamiderek1 Strongbow was a better, stiffer worker back in the early to mid-70s (and a younger one as well - he was over 50 years old in this clip). Strongbow retired in late 1984 and became a WWF road agent. There are better clips of the Chief here on YouTube. Check out his matches against the Sheik and Greg "The Hammer" Valentine for better examples of his abilities. Wahoo McDaniel was stiffer, but Strongbow wasn't bad either in younger days.
elc1960 1 year ago
One of my first memories of rasslin was back in the mid-60s, when Joe Scarpa worked as enhancement talent for Roy Shire in San Francisco, and Ray Stevens "broke his leg" in a TV match.
OaktownABQ 1 year ago
In the mid 7o's though the early 80's Stronbow was not exclusive to the WWF. He was in Detroit, GA, and some other indy groups. He even worked with outlaw Jim Wilson.
aginghipster 1 year ago
I think Strongbow probably had 34,049 headdresses destroyed in his career
JTZissman 1 year ago
Funny stuff. Feathered, no tar required.
Buckeyecat2002 1 year ago
Ernie the "Big Cat" Ladd stylin' and profilin'!!!
matthewmayhem 1 year ago
I never knew Strongbow was in GA. About 1980 or so?
forbesmh 1 year ago
@forbesmh Late 1970's...wanna say 1979, maybe early '80.
dablommer 1 year ago
@forbesmh He was in GA in 60's as Joe Scarpa.
NAYellowjackets 1 year ago
@NAYellowjackets oh I know that, but not as Strongbow. Or that late.
forbesmh 1 year ago
I alwyas loved the refs forcing the guy to wake someone up after the sleeper. why not just do it yourself??
franklin81 1 year ago
@franklin81 Well the idea was that a guy had to know exactly what he was doing or else it would permanently injure the man who was unconscious so in wrestling terms the referee couldn't actually do it.
CombatSportFan 1 year ago
Ernie was pimpin in that suit and hat.
funkyflashman 1 year ago 2
I believe the Big Cat and Joe did this angle in other teritories also
funkyflashman 1 year ago
@funkyflashman My memory could be faulty, but I believe that Spiros Arion and Scarpa did the exact same angle years earlier in the northeast when Arion took his heel turn. Same thing as this, with Strongbow tied up in the ropes, the headdress torn apart and feathers shoved in his mouth. I remember Strongbow crying while picking up and cradling feathers afterward. Very convincing at the time, actually. That was probably around 1976 or thereabouts.
Corbu3 1 year ago
@Corbu3 Not faulty - your memory was only about a year off. It happened in early 1975 on "Championship Wrestling". The Chief had just returned a few weeks before from the Sheik's Detroit promotion, and had been teaming with Arion since his return. That "heel" turn set up two feuds for Arion: one with the Chief, and one with then-WWWF champ Bruno Sammartino.
elc1960 1 year ago
First of all, thanks for the post. Wasn't Gordon the best, he brought great excitement. Ernie Ladd was a great wrestler.
lakecumberland 1 year ago
Why should Scarpa care about it? He was not a real Native American anyway.
DavidFullam 1 year ago
I read about this angle in the old Apter Magazines. First time seeing it. Thanks a million for the pleasure...
maddogwrestlingfan 1 year ago