Mandarin Vs Cantonese - Which Language Should You Learn?

[xaithoj]

ROFL, ROFL, ROFL...thanks for proving what a complete moron you are. omg, i can't stop laughing at what a complete and utter fool you are. ROFL, ROFL, ROFL. /wipes eyes. ROFL, ROFL, ROFL. omg, you're so pathetic i almost pity you. there, there...it'll be alright. you tried, you tried very hard and that's all that matters in the special olympics.

[biggiesmellsgood]

A lot of Cantonese people from Canada are jokes...they are fake ass chinks who hang with vietnamese people and other asians and they barely know shit about their culture. Half of them dont even know who is Hu Jintao

[xaithoj]

do not lose your cantonese brothers and sisters, it is the true descendant of the old and middle chinese languages. mandarin is too much mixed with the northern barbarians just like northern chinese. cantonese = true chinese language and people. that's why guangdong is the richest province in china!

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj Guangdong is the richest province in China ROFL HAHAHAHA your so fucking smart dude delete your youtube account right now and stop dropping ''smart'' comments on videos

[xaithoj]

@biggiesmellsgood "Since 1989 Guangdong has topped the total GDP rankings among all provincial-level divisions, with Jiangsu and Shandong second and third in rank." that's a quick link from wikipedia. NOW SIT YOUR AZZ BACK DOWN.

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj 1.1989

2. This year is 2012

3. Wikipedia doesnt always provide accurate informations

4. Nice english man AZZ LMAO

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj Before you try to sound smart correct your sentences pls

[xaithoj]

@biggiesmellsgood hey einstein, when it comes to world statistics on a major country like china, wikipedia gets its info from ACTUAL PUBLISHED STATS widely available with all documentation cited. i repeat: SIT YOUR AZZ DOWN SON, YOU JUST BEEN SERVED.

nice attack on the english...guess that's all you got left now huh MORON.

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj Wikipedia doesnt provide accurate informations sometimes which is true dumbshit nice attack on the english? that wasnt an attack dumbshit u cant even speak properly so why do u type bullshit on youtube? and I can speak english so I must be Einstein? u are so fucking dumb just delete your youtube acc

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj Trying to prove your point by using Wikipedia as a source LMAO how pathetic...

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj azz*** again nice fucking english LOL

[xaithoj]

@biggiesmellsgood anybody who isn't a fool can google Guangdong and find out that it's GDP tops china. each comment you leave just proves what an enormous MORON you are. ROFL, what a loser; what a sad, pathetic, poor loser. here's a link from The Economist that has pretty pictures because it seems you can't read worth a lick.

economist. com/content/all_parities_china

hope you're smart enough to make that link work since you can't post actual links, but not holding my breath.

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj Check the date 2010*** check the GDP per person which is also very important to mesure a regions wealth fucking dumbass poor loser? you cant even formulate a sentence properly u dumbass now u asking me for links LMAO are u fucking stupid? I wont search links for a dumbshit like u

[biggiesmellsgood]

@xaithoj If you really want links that bad then do it yourself dumbshit oh maybe u cant cuz u will prolly type something like ''China GDP high province'' because you cant even formulate a sentence properly btw the site you gave me is shit

[jesuis88]

普通话在哪里？为什么说 “普通话VS广东话"？

[wha1ever1]

OMG，both your chinese and english are suck！！！

[0vershade]

I never figured out how that writing system works. If i tell Chinese-guy-1 to write down an invented word, say "bolovenice", can Chinese-guy-2 read that word and tell it to me? A European guy can easily read it to me, even if he doesnt know the meaning, because wehave letters for sounds, not symbols for words... Never met 2 chinese guys willing to make the experiment:P

[goshadowkenny]

@0vershade If Chinese guy 1 is told to write "Bolovenice", he'd string together words that when read,sound like it. Chinese guy 2 would read the words, and it would sound like "bolovenice" but there would be zero meaning.

[jesuis88]

@0vershade Chinese writing system is completely meaning based rather than phonetic sounds. Your experiment would be pointless. Basic research on the 'net will enlighten you. Good luck.

[0vershade]

@jesuis88 No, the experiment wouldnt be pointless because that's exactly what i wnated to determine: can the Chinese write down meaningless words based just on how they sound like? because I see a problem with foreign names there: how the hell do they write down "Darth Vader"? And kids the next day at school, do they all pronounce it the same? :))

[awale223]

@0vershade Hello there! Just thought that I would butt into the conversation just for a bit. Sure the Chinese can write down "meaningless words"! Most names are exactly that! Especially with names that are translated phonetically from English. They have no meaning apart from to serve as a name for something. Eg: 哈利波特 = Harry Potter. They just sound about the same. Although some names do dig a little deeper such as 天狼星 = Sirius (Harry Potter again).

cont. in next post.

[awale223]

@awale223 @0vershade

The name literally means sky wolf star which makes sense considering the fact that Sirius as an animagus is a massive dog and wolves are considered a blood line from dogs (or something). And the sky and star part? Well, Sirius is actually the name of a star and stars are in the sky (not really but you get my jist) ;)

I speak Cantonese and am a Harry Potter fanatic ;P

[vorpal22]

@0vershade As other people have said, I think your exercise doesn't make sense because Chinese characters are not an alphabet. Chinese characters represent entire ideas, e.g. 我 = I or me, 牛 = cow. This is unlike English where letters don't represent ideas, but capture sounds.

If you ask a Chinese person to write "bolovenice" they could possibly find characters that would capture those sounds, but it still wouldn't make a lot of sense to do.

[vorpal22]

@0vershade Incidentally, the reason that, historically, so many languages were written using Chinese characters (most Chinese languages, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, and others) is precisely because of the fact that characters represent ideas and are independent of sound. For example, 十 is the number 10, and is read completely differently in Mandarin (shí), Cantonese (sap), and Japanese (jyuu).

[GoBlessYourSelf]

This language is retarded; its all memorization. How much of a chance does a foreigner have in learning this at home?

[vorpal22]

@GoBlessYourSelf How is Mandarin Chinese "retarded"? That's ridiculous. Mandarin is an exceptionally logical language and makes much more sense than most European languages. For example:

1. No different verb conjugations

2. Grammar is simple and straightforward

3. No masculine / feminine

4. If you know the basics of characters, if you find a character you do not know, you can likely guess the pronunciation and idea of the meaning.

ctd

[vorpal22]

@GoBlessYourSelf

5. If you find a word you don't know, if you know the characters in the word, you will very likely be able to guess what the word means (e.g. 應該: 應 = should, 該 = ought to, so the word means should, ought to, or must).

Chinese characters are hard to learn, but if you break them down and use a technique like James Heisig's visual memory method, it is actually quite easy, unlike English with weird grammar rules and horrific spelling. English is much harder, IMO.

[vorpal22]

@GoBlessYourSelf (BTW, after two years, I know about 2300 Chinese characters and am an upper intermediate / lower advanced Mandarin speaker. I can read Mandarin books and newspapers and have fairly complex conversations in Mandarin on pretty much any topic you can imagine; thus, it is definitely possible for a Westerner to learn Mandarin. BTW, I only spoke English and decent French before starting.)

[LUCAS57642]

there is no need to have a conflict over this, people who speak Cantonese speak Cantonese, people who speak Mandarin speak Mandarin. Even tho Mandarin is the official languages but its not like one is better than the other.

[ForteVSBosco]

FUCK MANDARIN

[Diskii100]

OK so wheres the cantonese???? wheres the VS? so stupid ==

[bellali2011]

Man... this guys Chinese hand writing is bad...

[Distimok]

holly shit that's hard

[gsel1213]

friends pls. help me translate this one..

哦呵呵天 农副产品是

i'm having a hard time interpreting it.

[TheGreatManThereIs]

@gsel1213 Hahahaha The co-product of clothing is

[infinera06]

Mandarin vs Cantonese? I did not hear one single Cantonese word uttered.

[hejie23]

@infinera06 ya this has nothing to do with the title.

[jjd705]

so the difference is like Spanish vs. Portuguese?

[33hunting]

@jjd705

Mandarin and Cantonese are different. They are like Spanish versus French.

[BAIYUE1]

@simonxu1121

You should learn Mandarin.Because Mandarin is Han chinese language,Cantonese is only dialect.

[LobsterPotsticker]

@BAIYUE1 they're BOTH dialects..........

[BAIYUE1]

@LobsterPotsticker

No,Mandarin is chinese official language.It is fact!

It was written in chinese law.

[LobsterPotsticker]

@BAIYUE well cantonese is the official language of hong kong

& most chinese who immigrated west speak cantonese

[BAIYUE1]

@LobsterPotsticker

well,Hongkong will lost right to become speacial administrative area after 20 years(50 years from 1997).So in that time,every Hongkonger will has to learn Mandarin language in shool as mainlander.

So it is not far,Cantonese will become dialect in Hong kong.

[Raymasaki]

@LobsterPotsticker

Not really they are 2 seperate Languages because they also have their own dialects

(Branch off) like hmong & several others

[ClassicHolic]

@Raymasaki oh hell no hmong is something COMPLETELY different.

[Raymasaki]

@ClassicHolic ok well then its a different Language. so then hu & hakka would ber really Different also?

i don't know much about the differences between Mandarin Dialects theres many of them.

ive also heard many are very Similar. i need to watch some hmong videos & learn how they sound different.

i do know this Mandarin & cantonese are very different & easy to tell apart.

[ClassicHolic]

@Raymasaki no when i say different i mean different language families. cantonese and mandarin are in sino-tibetan but hmong is in hmong-mien

[TheGreatManThereIs]

@BAIYUE1 No, you should learn Cantonese. Speaking Mandarin is for Peking man.

[BAIYUE1]

@TheGreatManThereIs

Why I have to speak Cantonese when Cantonese now also speak Mandarin-Manchu?

And Children of Cantonese also learn Mandarin in School in stead of their ancestor langguage "Cantonese"

[hottdog2007]

wtf

[vorpal22]

Why did you write ku (苦) with only eight strokes? Hand written it should be nine, unless it is Japanese.

[jeongmal3hontou2]

@vorpal22 its only 8 in japanese. the top is 3 strokes in japanese, not 4. In chinese is it split at the top? I can't see anywhere else where nine strokes would happen...

[vorpal22]

@jeongmal3 hontou2 In traditional Chinese, it is split at the top, like ⻀, so four strokes. In Japanese and traditional Chinese, it is three strokes, like ⺾. I see now that this is simplified Chinese and not traditional, so thre three strokes makes sense.

[noisesionoise]

where is the cantonese?

[spellcheek]

@noisesionoise Chinese is all the same written but spoken it's different.