nineball and fourball trickshot

[beansterman1998]

The 4 ball isn't blue, the 2 ball is blue...

[oi565]

How about 360 quick scope?

[liljoja]

bad shot!. the cue hit the stick again when it jumped. foul!

[hitman1502]

looks like a crappy way to break ur stick

[MrKamuri123]

I'm on the wierd part of youtube again.....

[9SuperMonkeyBall0]

That's 2 not 4, rename video.

[SnowBroProductions]

I thought he was gonna make them BOTH in...

[theeSUPRA]

ahhh im on the disliked side of youtube............

[lesduffy]

I did see the 9 move before the white landed on the 2 ball, but maybe it was to do with the vibrations of the white coming down hard into the slate before jumping into the air.

[8896kevon]

Where did the two go

[AkisT1000]

lame

[zubaircool18]

why is a breast expansion video in the suggestions :P

[superfastlighting]

that was a double tap so its a foul... you lost then

[ronyfw0607]

soo easy

[ikawpipa]

only Michaela Tabb can judge the shot, if it's good or bad.

[MackVirus888]

give me my 10 seconds back

[LennyAob]

Is it actually possible to get into this situation ?? -.-

[Birgerogole]

@LennyAob sadly yes, been there myself 2 times in the past year.

[kadangkaler]

what are the odds to have that kind of ball in real match?

[tideway]

Balls are touching!

[vidavasilj]

foul

[smbudd07]

the cue ball and the 9 were already touching. when the cue ball was hit the 9 moved slightly. pretty sure that wouldnt be a foul

[MyCool18]

Wouldn't it be easier to hit the 9 ball on the side jsut straight out xD

[sl1mey]

@MyCool18 if that was nineball not 8 ball, which I am assuming it is, then you have to hit the next ball in that numerical order so therefore could win if the 2 ball....not 4 ball......was kissing in that setup and you hit the 2 ball first you win by pocketing the 9

[jure87]

i cant even begin to explain how fake this video is

[ProdigyKimXP]

@jure87 lol what? fake? it's definitely real. How legal the shot is a different story. Needless to say, if my opponent EVER got in that situation and pulled that off, I'd probably applaud him.

[dotamaster123]

those who said it was a foul shot, i can assure u it's not, at that close distance even a slight touch on the 9 ball first would make it to go into the pocket, it looks like the movement can be due to the lightning of camera, but the most valid reason is that the 9 ball is so closed to the shot that the vibration causes a tiny movement cuz the felt move while executing the shot

[lyphe21]

@dotamaster123 If you look closer you can see that it is in truth a foul beacuse the cueball hit the stick again. that is where the foul is.

[anasn2]

foul shot btw

[OM3N1R]

@MattyClemz

I was hoping someone would be knowledgable...

[billiards024]

good try but it hit the nine ball first

[benkenza]

first kontakt 9 ball losse in 9 ball ;)

[ProdigyKimXP]

@benkenza Not lose lol

[donburmeister]

Not bad!!! Check out Don Burmeister trick shot, he's named it the lotus flower jump shot

[PcmRox182]

its jump shot-like bcs you cant hit the bottom of the cue ball so you put on back spin.. thats why you hit the bottom of the cue ball just from high point.. The jump is not neccessary counted as a trick shot because you just cant avoid it on this position

[BabuinoMortal]

i think you missed

wasn't it suposed to skip the blue ball and send them both to the hole?

[benkenza]

foul faul 9 was first kontakt

[PraVcheV]

You are a bum.

[johnph96]

2 ball

[screenday1]

it is also a foul. the 9ball moves before the two is struck

[Blixish]

@screenday1 No foul. The nine-ball was touching the cue. (Touching balls rule. wait...)

[screenday1]

@Blixish and? Get back to me when you think of a point to make. Foul

[stevo18ck]

pretty sure thats a 2 ball not a 4

[ghstefurak]

Thats a jump I can't copy at this time!! Very impressive.

BUT, can anyone out there copy my feat? Runout a rack of fifteen balls of the break, with no misses, and do it in under a minute? Did I mention you had to do it on a Diamond nine footer?!!! Don't let my "no big deal" casual pace deceive you, Diamond tables are as tough as they get!! Check "golden fleece billiards", thanks.

[Kana96792]

that not a trick because 9 ball is so close to pocket and its easy to hit but y would hit 2ball on top and make it roll back to hit 9ball??? its legal to jump on your opponent ball and make white roll to yours,,,

[buffita74]

In the game of nine ball if the object ball was the two, then by contacting the two and then pocketing the nine brings about a win. You have eight ball pool in mind, hence your confusion.

[ppooler]

the 9 ball moved because of the impact of the slate, is it perfectly legal shot

[hertdebert]

Hey, that shot comes up quite a bit when playing nine ball........

[cokIe4Ever]

This is a great shot for 9-ball. For 8 ball it prolly wont be as good.

[iwaz626]

if you focus and look closer, this wasn't a good shot,, cue ball has touched the 9ball first before the 2ball!

[s1llyvi3tb0i]

ur right haha

[rjohnson8ball]

i went through this before. The 9 rocks because of the tug on the cloth from the cue ball. The cue ball does not touch the 9 until after hitting the 4.

[rjohnson8ball]

Sorry, it probably is the 2 ball not 4 ball. But my point is the 9 rocks because the cue ball spin tugs on the cloth. I think it is tough to see from this angle, the cue ball jump direction is partly to the side (perpendicular to the 9 and 2 ball), making the jump go clean nearly upward and land onto the 2.

[WolfieTed]

Well spotted. Only the smallest hint of movement on the 9-ball

You should be a ref.

[MysticPlatipuss]

if the cue ball is moving away from the nine ball...how could it hit the nine ball...rjohnson is right

[ACDC88]

@iwaz626 it looks like the 2 ball was touched first. i think the 9 ball made that small little movement is because the balls are so very the close the friction from the jump shot made it vibrate a little.

[flopanik1]

@iwaz626 I think it is the stick that touch the 9 ball, but it is a foul anyway.

[littlesniper07]

@iwaz626 hes right it does

[neogia]

@iwaz626 you can hit 6 on your keyboard to see the review. The 9-ball moves -toward- the cueball, indicating it was touching before the shot. So the cueball moving away from the 9-ball would not be a foul.

[dumass00072]

@iwaz626 it depends on if the cueball was frozen to the 9-ball. if they were then shooting way from the nine ball does not count as contact. But thats bca 8ball rules. Just fyi. i'm not trying to be an a-hole or anything

[555pontifex]

@iwaz626 I don't think so. The nine ball seems to rock a tiny bit, but I think that's due to the impact of the cue, through the cue ball, into the slate, causing the slate to vibrate.

[jakebridges1555]

@555pontifex nope. thats not it at all. the nine is resting on the cue and when he hits the top of the ball he puts forward spin on it causing the 9 to rock back a hair. its a perfectly leagal shot according to BCA rules.

[jruff1984]

@jakebridges1555 not if their frozen.  If the cueball is frozen on the 9, it's impossible to get a good hit.

[nstattoos1]

@jruff1984 you're an idiot. if the cue is frozen to the nine, shooting the cue in the opposite direction (which is being done here) is a perfectly legal hit. The shot in the video was a legal shot.

[jruff1984]

@nstattoos1 Not if you're going by BCA/ACS (or even APA) rules. Say if the cue ball was frozen on your object ball. All you have to do is shoot straight at a rail to get a good hit. Your object ball doesn't have to move. Same thing applies here. Since the ball is frozen to the 9, its impossible to get a good hit. Not saying I agree with it....

[tofigkaist]

@iwaz626 agreeed

[TravisDaLuca]

@iwaz626 What 9Ball?

[crankykid1]

@iwaz626 no it touched the 2 ball 1st.

[m00nshine2004]

@iwaz626

Don't think he touched the 9 first. Think it was the cloth moving!?!

[JayD6321]

@iwaz626 I was about to say the same thing!

[troy5107]

hey... owen4manud is right he just said is like an ass hole but the four mall in purple or old style pink but that ball is blue so its the 2

[leliukass]

lolol yeah right..! the shadow of the two ball... the nine ball moves before the que ball hit the two. in both case its a nice and difficult jump.

[owen4manutd]

IT THE 2 NOT THE 4 THICK CUNT

[tifferdile1]

So can someone explain why this says nine ball and four ball when it's the two ball? I don't understand why people can't make the effort to make things correct anymore...

[vicarious709]

I dont understand why people make such a big deal about nothing. Does the number of the ball effect the content of the video??

[xhaxhibb]

cuz they are fucking kids... fuck em all

[TheIshter]

And you were born an adult?

Fuck you.

[4everRossi]

lol correct

[austinryder90]

well sometimes the color of the balls are different with other sets

so the 4 may be 2... but im probably wrong

[Boijkela]

I watched this many times and the shot was totally legal. You might see that the 9 ball moves first, but it`s actually the shadow of 2 ball that makes the illusion.

[ClitEasywood]

yes the nine does wiggle first ,only after i watched it repeatedly did i see it. but its an awesome shot. and watching that shot in person you would never see the nine move. skipcues347 you R the master. thanks for the post.

[JestersBakery]

the 9 ball moves first

[wwiizzeerr]

9 and 4?!?

whatever, i dont see what's so tricky here ~.~

[mrlewisavery]

actully that is the 9 and the 2 and that wasnt a trick shot

[funnycatflap12]

this is not a foul because in 9-ball as long as you hit the lowest numbered ball on the table first it doesnt matter which ball goes in

if it is the nine ball you win the game as it is the last ball but you had to hit the lowest numbered ball on the table

[sofakingclutch]

foul

[elviz94]

It is the 2 ball , Not the 4ball ??

[zezigon1]

tht wasnt tht good all u did is pot a ball

[brushedred4]

if it was nine ball he would have won

[damnstraight2]

can you tell me what the red dots are for on the white ball

[MacManLtd]

its a TV ball, they started to put dots on the cue ball to show the fans the spin on the ball.

They also have the pink 4 ball instead of purple, b/c ppl got confused which was the 2 and which was the 4 when watching on old televisions.

[damnstraight2]

thanks

[freeandeasy012]

so you can tell how the ball is rolling... because if it is just a white ball... you can't tell how it's rolling... that's the kinda ball i want if i get a pool table

[ThundaLippz]

bad hit.touched the 9.good try tho,keep practicing,

[MacManLtd]

frozen, legal hit

[hoyimapinoi]

ur table must be really easy to jump on

[gilbertoguru]

yes it can be a foul but its very hard to see, its can be allow in a real game.

[MacManLtd]

they were frozen legal hit, new rule change a few months ago to eliminate discrepancy

[PwnDaHorde]

nice shot, but would that be a foul? becos i saw the 9 shake a little wen he hit cue ball

[MacManLtd]

I don't think the cue ball hit it, i think the table just shook. So i donno if they would call that a foul...

[BrianMichaelEvans]

How is it that you can make THAT shot...but you can't tell the 4 ball from the 2 ball???

[galarbage]

LOL so true, easy shot but still even a blind man could tell the difference between the two.

[ExclusivePunishment]

Actually the blue is the two ball. Can't you tell your 2 ball from the 4 ball???

[BrianMichaelEvans]

That;s EXACTLY what I just said.....but thanks for repeating it....i guess.

[jlowellb]

good job, keep it up. 5 stars

[beatzzz01]

You HIT THE 9BALL FIRST IDIOT! It doesnt even take slow mo to see that therefore in a game I wud have definitely gotten the foul!

[dabestracedriver2k9]

Hmmm, great shot, but it seems to me that the 4ball looks more like 2ball to be honest.

[elviz94]

YOU HIT THE 9BALL FIRST!!

[radsimu]

whats the trick here?

[rjohnson8ball]

Actually, maybe the spin of the cueball tugged the cloth forward and back under the 9 which caused the 9 to rock slightly back and forth. I am not so sure the cueball hit the 9 first.

[lnd3005]

I wasn't able to figure it out when I saw it, but I think you're right. It's not really physically possible for the cue ball to have hit the nine ball first.

[duskwalker2]

I thought you were going to land it on the other side of the 2 to make it hit the 9 and knock the 9 in. That would be much more impressive.

[IAIBICI]

Yup, it's a foul. The reason the 9 ball move is because it is stick together with the cue ball. The jumping effect makes the 9 ball move a little.

It would be better if they have atleast an air space between them.

[DirkAlmighty13]

"General: If the Cue Ball is touching an Object Ball, the player is obliged to 'Play Away' from that Object Ball at an angle of more than 9O degrees. (That is, play the shot without causing the Cue Ball to make any initial further contact with that Object Ball). If, when playing away from a touching ball, the touching ball rocks or moves without being contacted further, but simply because the Cue Ball is no longer there, no penalty will apply."

[lnd3005]

That sounds like a snooker rule... there is no "play away" rule in pool.

The cue ball did not hit the nine first, nor did the player's cue hit the nine; as someone else explained, the cloth pulled a little bit, under the nine, causing it to move slightly.

I'm not sure if that's a foul. I don't think so.

[DirkAlmighty13]

I posted the rule to explain why it isn't a foul.

There is a "play away" rule in all games of pool, otherwise, it would be a foul to shoot whenever the cue is frozen in contact with a non-object ball. I found this rule in the World Eight Ball Pool Federation rules.

If you look closely, the cloth didn't move.

It shouldn't as long as there's only one layer and it's glued down smoothly.

The felt doesn't have much stretch.

The 9 rolled toward the cue ball because the cue ball was no longer there.

[lnd3005]

DirkAlmighty13, yes, it's not a foul to play the cue ball when its frozen to a non-object ball, and one MUST shoot away from the frozen non-object ball... moving it, before contact with an object ball, would be a foul.

If the frozen object ball moves but the player was obviously playing away from it (presumably in an attempt to contact an object ball) then there must have been some imperfection in the table... in which case you are right. That movement does not constitute a foul.

[lnd3005]

DirkAlmighty13,

Sorry, in my second paragraph above I mean to write "If the frozen non-object ball..."

If one is frozen to an OBJECT ball (e.g. the lowest numbered ball in rotation pool) then one can play into it, as long as one does not double-hit (strike the cue ball more than once). One is not obligated to play away and back for contact, nor is one entitled to simply play away from the ball.

Also, in my experience, even on nice tables the cloth will move if a sufficient force is applied.

[DirkAlmighty13]

Yes, if the cue ball is frozen to an object ball, of course it's legal to play into it. In the video though, the cue ball is frozen to the nine and he must strike the two first. I couldn't even get close to doing the shot that this guy did, but if they were further apart I'd draw the cue ball off the two and back into the nine, which would also be playing away, striking an object ball, and then back again.

[rjohnson8ball]

Good hit! We all can agree the cuestick is aiming the cueball away from the 9. I believe he is aiming the stick toward the side pocket so the cue ball will hit into the 4 (or 2) ball at an angle rather than full. Hitting at an angle like that can help prevent the cue ball from ricocheting off the 4 ball and into the 9 ball. The 9 rock backs and forth because the cloth under gets tugged by the intense cue ball draw. The 9 ball does not get touched until the cue ball falls off the 4 ball.

[rjohnson8ball]

I would have been clearer if I said he is hitting toward the top left of the video screen, toward the side rail, to avoid the ricochet after it hits the 4.

[rjohnson8ball]

I mean he is aiming toward the top of video screen toward the side rail, grazing the 4.

[TheGoodDrWeeks]

So what if it is a foul? It was still a neat shot. Relax.

[michal1829]

its FOUL IM SURE BAD SHOT

[enta3omry293]

its Foul man

[tmac3323]

might just be me, but i think thats the 2 ball and not the 4. and yes the 9 ball got hit first, just barely though. you can see ti shake slightly

[DirkAlmighty13]

Could be from the table shaking from the impact of the stroke.

[tmac3323]

maybe

[wafraf]

its the two ball not the fourball

[godspeak11]

my nice can do that shot?

[chosebinne]

9 ball moved first when the cue ball jumped up. Otherwise he would have had to come off the 2 fuller and the 2 would have moved more away from the 9. Interesting shot to watch though!

[itsjapeyk19]

BAD SHOT. THE 9 HIT ITS FIRST