The Vory Y Zakone and the Russian Mafia are actually two different entities. It's true that many members of Vory Y Zakone are in the Russian Mafia but they are not the same thing, a Vor generally will have been through the Communist prison system and will have the tattoos that are mentioned but there are also many members of the Russian mafia who have never been in prison and therefore will not have such marks on them.
In the documentary "the mark of cain" i understood it as these tattoos basically being a thing of the past, with new kids coming into prison having dollar signs and other random shit.
That´s right, but i would guess this might come back since reputation is valuable in the mafia and tribal,dollar and other tattoos are just works of art.. This is your criminal passport and if you want to advance in the organization i believe that you have to be able to impress the head of the organizationn..
Ps. i myself don´t appreciate nor advocate crime but i think these tattoos are amazing
love his last story about the couple believing his costume. typical viggo-moment in my opinion, like the sword waving incident which he talks about on the bonus dvds from lotr :-]
If there are star tattoos on the shoulders, it typically symbolizes a individuals dignity and honor and that he lives by a certain code and tradition. Star tattoos on the knee caps are usually given once a member has become promoted to Captain status, and it symbolizes that the owner of the tattoo will never be brought to his knees.
I think there is but I don't remember the name, maybe it's mentioned in The Mark of Cain (video response). Or perhaps in Eastern Promises. Sorry, I forgot.
this type of movies should create Russians not foreignness because they just try to understand that culture movie is bulshit very far from reality, reality is more difficult than horrible movie
The Vory Y Zakone and the Russian Mafia are actually two different entities. It's true that many members of Vory Y Zakone are in the Russian Mafia but they are not the same thing, a Vor generally will have been through the Communist prison system and will have the tattoos that are mentioned but there are also many members of the Russian mafia who have never been in prison and therefore will not have such marks on them.
Bulletdude 2 weeks ago
Very interesting. He looks so good in this too :)~
beautifuldisaster007 1 month ago
*Willem Dafoe voice* Symbology? Symbolism.. what is the "Symbolism".
2010PolluxTroy 1 month ago
In the documentary "the mark of cain" i understood it as these tattoos basically being a thing of the past, with new kids coming into prison having dollar signs and other random shit.
BigDog91527 2 months ago
@BigDog91527
That´s right, but i would guess this might come back since reputation is valuable in the mafia and tribal,dollar and other tattoos are just works of art.. This is your criminal passport and if you want to advance in the organization i believe that you have to be able to impress the head of the organizationn..
Ps. i myself don´t appreciate nor advocate crime but i think these tattoos are amazing
fihndus 1 month ago
Viggo ugh. So attractive
McMakisha 3 months ago
love his last story about the couple believing his costume. typical viggo-moment in my opinion, like the sword waving incident which he talks about on the bonus dvds from lotr :-]
PiFuenftel 4 months ago 7
@PiFuenftel
I totally agree, it's why this clip is so good.
The incident from LOTR you are referring to, I want to see it. Which movie is it from and is the clip here on youtube?
Psycho86Mantis 4 months ago
@Psycho86Mantis you can find the clip on the 2nd bonus dvd from the fellowship on the rings at about 12:54. i couldnt find it on youtube though.
PiFuenftel 4 months ago
@Psycho86Mantis i uploaded the clip myself; /watch?v=XtoINoEdLQ8 :-]
PiFuenftel 4 months ago
@PiFuenftel
Haha, great! Thanks!
Psycho86Mantis 4 months ago
how do you call these stars? on the knees end upper body
FenzBeezy 5 months ago
@FenzBeezy
If there are star tattoos on the shoulders, it typically symbolizes a individuals dignity and honor and that he lives by a certain code and tradition. Star tattoos on the knee caps are usually given once a member has become promoted to Captain status, and it symbolizes that the owner of the tattoo will never be brought to his knees.
Psycho86Mantis 5 months ago
@Psycho86Mantis yes i know that but there is a name for the star isnt it?
FenzBeezy 5 months ago
@FenzBeezy
I think there is but I don't remember the name, maybe it's mentioned in The Mark of Cain (video response). Or perhaps in Eastern Promises. Sorry, I forgot.
Psycho86Mantis 5 months ago
@FenzBeezy roses of wind or thief's stars
DaKingNeman 1 month ago
this type of movies should create Russians not foreignness because they just try to understand that culture movie is bulshit very far from reality, reality is more difficult than horrible movie
831024831024 6 months ago
Amazing movie...perfect Viggo...just great job!
janebubles 7 months ago
Viggo is just a great facking artist.... man... damn... he's just so great at what he does.
PedroNicanoreTV 7 months ago
I liked the movie, big Viggo fan, and thanks for sharing this video..
Tara20052 9 months ago
On behalf of Viggo Mortensen fans, thank you for posting this video.
uliqed 1 year ago 6