I have put together a three part video detailing the brief life of master fard muhammad. I'm inviting all NOI members and non-members to listen to the information I have gathered. To get the complete presentation, I suggest you listen to all three videos. youTube "WallaceDFard_1.wmv" type upper and lower case as is.
lol you still havent proven anything. how are they cult like or hypocritical? wheres your proof. what black group would you consider to be upstanding?
lol white people you gave yourselves a greater problem now you have a main stream black islam and a Nation of islam. lol you stupid devils made this better for us by splitting malcom from the messenger
Muhammad salaam u are so wrong and noi is commiting shirk which is haraam in Islam. Ur submission to Allah alone should be enough. I understand why the N O I was found n why but to mention Islam in the same context as ur teachings is haraam .. noi should really change it's name it's giving Islam a bad name. Malcolm x found the truth may Allah grant him peace... An as for ur comment about agreeing with what happened to him. He will never die in our hearts he's words spoke the truth and since the
if you watch mohammed ali's movie ( the greatest ), youll see that ali joined the n o islam when he heard malcolm x preaching and became friends with him, not after his death!!!!!! ali plays himself in the movie.
The NATION of ISLAM has never been "Racist". Some people just dont have the BLESSING of Understanding. Also, If you are not a Black man or woman from North America, you should shut your DAMN MOUTH!! And Bring evidence if you have any.
@hyphy503 Lmao the NOI is a damn cult Malcolm exposed Elijah for his pedophile acts and the NOI had him killed...when did Malcolm put his hands on Elijah in a violent way? He spoke the truth and the NOI snakes had him killed...you can watch on here Farrakhan giving props to Malcolm's murderers and talking about how much of a traitor he was when Elijah was the real traitor..Farrakhan just talks out the side of his neck about it..and what blessing the people with those blessings have no common
@dollarbill125 How can Malcolm supposedly expose Elijah as a pedophile when he converted to Sunni, meaning he followed the Prophet Muhammad who married his youngest wife when she was 9 yrs. old? Who's the pedophile now? Malcolm was jealous and he just didn't get it! You don't play with these teachings, or you will get punished! Plus, Malcolm said in his own book that he first thought it was the NOI that was out to get him, then he realized it was somebody bigger out to get him!
@TheButtermilkgirl Has the thought of "prophet Muhammad" being a pedophile every crossed your mind? People would be quick to say an average man dating, married, or having sex with a girl that young while being much older was a pedophile so how are these two any exception? This is why i don't like going back and forth with some religious people because they lack common damn sense, comprehension, and are hypocritical as hell
@TheButtermilkgirl How was Malcolm jealous? Why was he punished? For what exposing the truth?! It's real funny how people will turn on someone for saying some real shit that they just don't like...and how was Malcolm punished...Allah punished Malcolm for exposing the truth huh?...well that's one hell of a god ya got...I guess your god is no different from the devil...oh wait Allah is all knowing but created the devil in the first place so what should i expect right
@TheButtermilkgirl and just because it was the gov played a role in finally killing him doesn't mean the NOI wasn't out to get him...just like I said the NOI is a damn cult...the minute you don't agree with them or do something they don't agree with they want to hurt you and use Allah or prophet Muhammad as a cover to justify their words and actions...really no different from the damn christian church
@dollarbill125 whoa!!! u r absolutely erroneous! first off, Malcolm Little was an unreliable source. How can you just agree with what he says when in his book, the Autobio., he lied. First, he said he saw Master Fard Muhammad in person, in his jail cell, then he totally disagrees with Elijah. Next, he said Elijah's son Wallace told him everything, and later on Wallace denied that he told Malcolm (so one of them were lying), and finally, who was Malcolm to talk about another man's private life..
@TheButtermilkgirl So Elijah trusted Malcolm to bring in members for the NOI but the minute he disagrees with Elijah he's a unreliable source? And I don't remember reading or hearing anybody say Malcolm said he met Fard in jail...and i'd believe Malcolm over Wallace because Wallace has been known to flop and change his stories around...And talk about his private life why not...Prophet Muhammad's personal life was put out there and since Elijah wanted to mimic the prophet
@dollarbill125 Elijah didn't just trust Malcolm to bring in followers, Malcolm wasn't the only member! And as far as him being gay, that book is not new. It was written in the early to mid-90's. And I didn't say if I believed it or not, the point I'm trying to make is that people could say anything, but who's to say what's the truth unless u can see it for yourself...see it manifest right in front of you! And everything Elijah has taught has been manifested RIGHT NOW as we are typing these...
@dollarbill125 words. Do you u disagree? Yes, Wallace was a liar, yet, that is where Malcolm supposedly got his info about Elijah's private life, so why do YOU believe it if Malcolm heard it from Wallace, but Wallace is a LIAR? And enough about the prophet already! Whether Elijah took on wives or not is HIS business! It still didn't take away him trying to ressurect the people! All that he has done to try to raise and lift black people up, and u wanna discredit him for Malcolm the LOSER,...
@TheButtermilkgirl Malcolm asked Elijah himself about what he was doing or did you just forget that? He didn't just go off of what Wallace was saying...and how much has Elijah, Farracon, or the NOI really done for black people?...shoot I think MLK and Malcolm did more than the NOI has done to this day...besides all the NOI does is TALK! NO ACTION! The least great creible thing they did was the million man march and MLK got way more people to march on Washington
@dollarbill125 ok, so he asked him! And Elijah didn't deny it! Can u blame him for not telling anybody! Look how they reacted, especially dealing with niggers like Malcolm! I respect MLK at the end, but what did he do but get black people abused! And Malcolm aint do a damn thing for blacks! His lectures were based off of his teachers, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad! And u are just like a nigga, always comparing who did what more! So what, MLK got more people, and? did we get our own land! did we
@dollarbill125 get our own schools, taught by our own, with the best education! Did we get our own hospitals? Furthermore, white people wanted us to be separated all this time, then all of a sudde, somebody with a hidden hand (mainly a Jew) wanted us to come together all of sudden? Does that make sense? So what, we had separate restaurants, bathrooms, etc! Good! I don't wanna be around white folk when I eat or use the bathroom after their disease-carrying asses!
@TheButtermilkgirl Lol i'm not even going to read all of that...I just skimmed through it and majority of it sounds like hate talk and that's not what i'm about...but following Elijah for so long what should I expect...like you said GOODBYE!
@dollarbill125 HUSTLER, PIMP, and FAGGOT?! And if Farrakhan is gay, I could care less, because I don't follow him either, I study Elijah and only him! Now, Elijah could have taken on many women when he was younger, for he was a handsome man. But, he didn't! So why would he take on other wives when he got older unless it was divinely written of him? I mean, for that to be the reason Malcolm was killed would be dumb as hell! And Malcolm said it himself, that afterall, he didn't think it was the..
@TheButtermilkgirl He didn't get with them because he didn't know about the prophet then...and divinely written? Sounds like BULL to me...so any man can pull that prophet divine written crap and just pull "wives"? Still a nasty ass pedophile in my opinion...and if him sleeping with young girls wasn't anything to him why did he allow the NOI to get out of hand with it? Refresh yourself in what they were doing to get at malcolm because of what he said
@dollarbill125 the NOI. He said this, but y'all still wanna think less of Elijaj because y'all so damn ungrateful! Elijah was dead on when he said the white man was the devil! People who run this world are white! They do the most inhumane things and cause war and bloodshed, and care about capitalism, ONLY, and any other peversion, these white people, and u gon' say they're NOT the devil? Are you kidding me? And I know y'all gon' say it's devils in every race, and I'm not saying that everyone ..
@TheButtermilkgirl I say screw Elijah call me ungrateful if you want lol...and there are devils in every race but it doesn't have a skin color...and they say people that follow the NOI don't preach hate and racism lol...be real with yourself!...but if you want to get on race who has killed more blacks than blacks? Shoot it was our own ancestors that helped put us in slavery so what does that tell you? So im not being racist and hateful like you and putting the devil title
@TheButtermilkgirl Blacks were killing blacks back in Africa pre slavery and where were whites then...can't blame every damn thing on white people...Malcolm said his disturbances about Elijah and nation members wanted his head...really no white people directly in that situation either
@dollarbill125 how the hell do u know if Blacks were killing blacks? Were u there? Bye Uncle Tom or Aunt Toma! And last, if white people and every race really wanted to get along with us and intermix, which would lead to interracial mixing, that would be the demise of the recessant genes. Black is dominate and would erase other races! So, why would anyone wanna mix with us? There would be no more them! We can ALL respect each other, but we DON'T have to love or live with each other!!!! BYE!!!!!
@TheButtermilkgirl Lol exactly hatred and separatism...and you sound like the real SELLOUT!...and were they killing each there just DO YOUR RESEARCH!...and stop worrying about the damn color of our skin so much and focus on how happy and peaceful our people and along with the rest of civilization...there is more to being black then our damn skin color but I can't expect someone that's been listening to Elijah so damn long to understand that...and for the last time AGAIN! BYE!
@dollarbill125 else it totally innocent, for there are ugly people in every race, including the black, but when u say devil, they are people who hide the truth, people who have their focus on dividing and conquering every avenue of the earth! People who won't let you have peace within your own nation! So, why would u want to worship your God with them? I'd rather have another God or Allah! And as far as gov. documents go, how do u know they're true? How do we know if what anything said is true?
@TheButtermilkgirl Farracon hides truths all the time especially Elijah so don't act like they just let everything be known...and if white people are the devils why is Farracon always shaking hands with them kissing ass...just look at what he did to Khalid Muhammad after Jews started complaining...Farracon sold Khalid out because his massas got mad when all Khalid was saying was NOI hate Jew 101
@TheButtermilkgirl Whose to say its not true? especially what they said about Fard...and lets be real you have to be off your rocker to say god came in him...so we go through all this crap NOW god wants to come? Sounds like cult crap to me...and it goes lock in step with what they said about him and his fraud scandals
@dollarbill125 yes we go thru this crap! he came, raised up a messenger, and told US what we needed to do! We did it for a little while, and then what happened? Men, like Malcolm and any other loser who really didn't believe! Everybody thought they knew more than the meseenger, so therefore we suffer! We suffer because of our own "stiff-necked"ness, it's no one's fault but our own! We can't unite, because everybody wanna be right!
@TheButtermilkgirl If Elijah said shoot yourself in the foot you would probably do it because he knows everything...So you mean to tell me I can say god came to me in a person and told me everything and im divine now? LMAO I wonder what he was smoking when he planned that one...people believed that more so because of the times they were living in than the common sense of it...and that's one late ass god lol...just like they said about Fard he's a good con man
@TheButtermilkgirl If people want to believe different than the messenger let them! If he was all right and knowing people wouldn't feel the need to object to anything he did because he was instucted by god and god knows his creations...but maybe he wasn't instructed by god ever thought of that but I don't expect you to be open minded enough to thin that lol...maybe you're the "stiff-necked" one
@dollarbill125 we don't know if what Elijah, Fard, Malcolm , or anyone else said is true, unless we can see it for ourselves! And I'm sorry, but what I see that Allah and his meseenger has taught has been absolutely true! I'm not a member of the nation, I'm only 27, I've been reading for 3 yrs. now, and I stand with Allah and his messenger! And like I said, if Malcolm was so thorough, his organization would still be here! U gotta start from the bottom up like everyone else. Matter of fact,
@TheButtermilkgirl Lets be real Malcolm movement wasn't going to last without him unless he named a successor and it's real funny the main one gunning for Malcolm became the successor of the NOI...Farracon can talk hate all they want but mindless sheep will believe them...and if you question what they say or do they want to hurt you
@dollarbill125 does that make any type of sense? They wouldn't last unless he appointed a successor? Now, you're just speculating! IF what he was saying was pure truth, someone would have just taken over, like what Farrkahan did after he left Wallace and that Old-World Islam! He saw that Elijah's way was the truth (and I think him for that, and only that) and came back. So, if Malcolm's followers truly loved him, they would have kept the organization alive, no matter what! But the black man can
@dollarbill125 act pussilanimously, as they usually do! Gunning for Malcolm? what do u mean? supporting him, or calling him a traitor and hypocrite, because Farrakhan went for the latter!
@dollarbill125 the Panthers were built off of Malcolm's teachings, which was really based off of Elijah's teachings, but everyone wants to give Malcolm the credit. And look what happend to the Panthers...gunned down, framed, jailed, because that wasn't the route to take. Ur suppose to build for independence, not try to fight when u know ur not gon' win! And it is in the autobio. that Malcolm said he saw Fard! I'm an English major and I do close readings all the time, so perhaps u should reread..
@TheButtermilkgirl If what the Panthers were for were originally from Elijah then why did Elijah bitch out when it came to confrontations with the police? He didn't want to be involved in anything to do with them but THAT's who the Panthers learned from? The Panthers were for self sustainability so maybe you need to read more...so the Panthers couldn't win? How were they any less likely to succeed than the NOI...maybe it's because the Panthers were for action and the NOI
@dollarbill125 He didn't have anything to do with them because they preached of bearing arms, and Elijah said that Allah said "No Guns!" And as u can see, Elijah was correct! The white man has an army, with guns and nuclear weapons, how did the Panthers think that they were gonna defeat them? And they didn't either! There are no more Panthers, well, at least it took them many years to resurface thanks to Dr. Khalid, but even Dr. Khalid died, because he went against the teachings of Elijah!
@dollarbill125 and action! Yeah, Elijah was trying to ressurect black people, to come together and LIVE. How many men and women died, falsely jailed, and committed some type of crime in the BPP? A lot! And they quikly dismantled too! People still love Elijah, and I'm one of them! I don't like Malcolm because he was a liar, hypocrite, and divisive! Like I said, Islam means submit to Allah, which ultimately means PEACE! Was Malcolm being peaceful when he spoke against the messenger? Name calling?
@TheButtermilkgirl was ALL TALK!...that's why Farracon is never really sought after by anybody even though he talks like he is...it's because all he does is TALK! Unless you're taking action or saying something they really don't want said they wouldn't want to kill you...All Elijah or Farracon said was basic common sense, hate talk, and stuff that could easily be known if people would bother to pick up more books so they weren't say anything too revealing
@dollarbill125 Let's not mention Farrakhan! I don't give a damn about him! I told you, I follow the messenger and my Allah, ONLY! If you don't agree with the teachings, then so be it! Do whatever works for you! Furthermore, people that follow Farrakhan may not do much, but there are plenty of people who study and follow Elijah's teachings and have their own businesses, schools, newspapers, radio shows, restaurants, and in the process of opening hospitals and clinics...my uncle is one of them!
so u need to stop being so damn close-minded! What are you doing? Huh? You damn sure wouldn't have the time to be on here if you were out takin' action! LOL
@TheButtermilkgirl MLK and Malcolm were talkers and doers really for the uplifting of black people not just talking, making money, taking trips, and going home
@dollarbill125 that book! and all that other crap you wrote, I'm not even going to address it! U can't persuade people who truly LOVE the messenger, to go against him! But I will not let anyone diminish his character because of some NOBODY like Malcolm Little, the pompous jackass!!!!! ANd i don't trust Alex Haley either!!!!
@dollarbill125 and what do u mean, why not air his dirty laundry? Because he took on more wives? Like I said, did he air his dirty laundry about his sexual life? Bruce Perry couldn't print that book if it were false, he would be sued for liability! He said he had sources from people who knew Malcolm well, that's y noone knows about the book! And the last book on Malcolm by Manning Marable, talks about the relationship between him and his wife, Betty. It wasn't a pleasant one. Furthermore...
@dollarbill125 Malcolm also said that he told the brothers to "spit acid" at the sisters! He didn't even like women like that! All you have to do is read between the lines! So, I'm saying is, everyone wanna say he exposed Elijah for being with younger women, but he didn't even care about women in the first place! And he was nothing like Moses. Moses had a speech impediment, Moses wanted to seperate the children from Egypt, while Malcolm wanted to reunite them again! If you read the Bible,
@TheButtermilkgirl Really spit acid? Where did you read that at? And i'd like to hear from these sources because anybody can say this person said this...and if Malcolm were gay i'm sure it would've been said by then...and you can lose me with all the bible talk...and he saw Elijah for who he was...it's funny dude had sex with teenage women I guess for his kids to follow him but how has his kids even helped black people in some divine way? Dude just wanted to get his rocks off
@dollarbill125 Obviously, you don't study or read his book! I took a Black History course this summer, and my professor had documentation of Malcolm saying this! I have no reason to lie! Malcolm did say in his book that he saw Master Fard Muhammad, again, I have no reason to lie! Last, maybe it wasn't revealed until Bruce Perry's book came out, because nobody knew it until that man gathered sources and put it all together! I have no reason to lie about that either, so don't be mad @ me, read!
@dollarbill125 type in Bruce Perry and Malcolm X on ya search engine! And if Elijah had sex with teenagers, which were his wives, and? Big deal! He's a man, an NO man comes w/o flaws! No, he didn't publicize his love life, but then again, neither did Malcolm come out about his homosexual encounters, and that's his business! But you can't be a kettle and call the pot black! ANd Malcolm's alternative lifestyle is waaaaay more subversive than Elijah's don't u think? LOL
@dollarbill125 Malcolm was more like Amalek in the Bible! It's already written! If u wanna talk about a hero, u can 2 least give credit to MLK! Yeah, he was way off with this whole intergration talk, but after he saw the devils for who they really were, and after his talk with the HOnorable Elijah Muhammad, his speech changed from "we" to "Us"! WHy you think his wife did a book on Elijah, not Malcolm! Elijah's the ONLY way! and I'm done with this! Goodbye!
@TheButtermilkgirl and I give MLK all the credit in the world for what he did and what he was striving for...bringing people together and trying to end racism within us...not trying to continue with it like Elijah and Farracon...I was glad Malcolm cut the hate Elijah was teaching him and saw the truth...i'm sure Elijah didn't like Malcolm who was almost as popular as him coming with a different view...and Elijah wasn't for bringing all races together lol
@dollarbill125 first of all, you can't end racism! People are who they are, and you can't change that! Furthermore, everybody doesn't have to be together! There's no rule that says everybody has to get along! You can respect each other, but u don't have to live with each other! Everybody is still separated anyway, so what are u talking about! And Elijah wasn't teaching hate, if he were, he would say, "Everytime you see a white person, shoot them! Stab them! Burn them! Rape the women and...
@dollarbill125 children! Hang them! Spit on them! Tar and feather them! Mutilate the men! Burn a cross on THEIR front lawns! Deny treatment at the hospitals and let them suffer and die!" Oh my bad, that's what white people have done to us, but YOU still want everybody to come together! You love ya "open-enemy" huh? Well, I guess we have nothing more else to chat about ! You love white people, I love independent-thinking black people! So I guess we're done?
@TheButtermilkgirl just like Farracon he preached hate and only changed what they were saying when it suited them...even Elijah brought in damn Nazis to speak like really?...Malcolm was moving more towards we to us on his own i'm sure he wasn't going to Elijah to learn that...and if Elijah is the only way we're all doomed...but goodbye and good riddance!
@TheButtermilkgirl so much why not put his out there? Why not air his dirty laundry? Why not expose him? He spent so much time talking about what white people are doing why not talk about what he's doing? And if everything he was doing could be justified by the Qu'ran why didn't he just come out with it in the first place? Even Farracon said Elijah didn't tell his followers because they wouldn't understand YET prophet Muhammad was doing the same thing so why wouldn't they
@TheButtermilkgirl understand? Probably because he was doing a little more than just taking wives and he didn't want people seeing or thinking he was abusing his power...and from what I hear some men in the NOI with some power have been known to sleep around a little or use marriage as a way of just justifying having multiple women...If Malcolm didn't agree he still had the right to voice his thoughts...what Elijah can not agree with people and voice his opinions against them
@dollarbill125 to the public?! If he didn't agree with Elijah, he should have left, and if he was THE TRUTH, people would have followed him anyway. After he got killed, what happened to the organization he built and the followers who left with him? HIs own bros. and sisters stayed in the NOI. Point, he was jealous because Elijah wifed a woman he was in love with. ANd speaking of him and women, he had a bittersweet relationship with the female sex, because HE forgot to mention his sexuality. He..
@TheButtermilkgirl but Malcolm can't do the same?...People probably still wouldn't of left because religious people are for the most part brainwashed...if Malcolm had sex with a 9 year old and said prophet Muhammad did it they would probably say hey it's ok because the prophet did it, etc...Lets be real Malcolm's organization didn't have as much structure as the NOI so without its leader it would eventually fall but that doesn't mean there wasn't any truth in what he spoke
@TheButtermilkgirl I don't think Malcolm would be that petty but shoot Elijah was getting at women Malcolm had brought into the nation...and gay? I HIGHLY disbelieve that...if he was gay then in all this time why hasn't it been said? In all the interviews, government files, etc why hasn't it been said?...it's also funny a new book says Malcolm is gay with little to know evidence and you're quick to believe it to discredit him...and the same people saying he's gay also said
@TheButtermilkgirl Farracon was gay so if you want to believe all of that then you also have to acknowledge you're following a faggot in Farracon! It's also funny you'll believe possible racist white guys real quick because I believe the only authors saying he was gay were white authors while plenty of black men have probably written books about Malcolm...so I think you were just fishing for insults on that one
@dollarbill125 wanna talk about the messenger's personal life, but forgot to disclose the fact that he was a homosexual, or bisexual. He didn't mention his past as a male prostitute but wanna talk about the messenger and his wives! If you don't believe me, Bruce Perry wrote a book on it; "Malcolm: The Man Who Changed Black America" or something like that! So y'all wanna name call and call Elijah a pedophile, when Malcolm was a damn faggot! HE was a liar and he did change black america...
@dollarbill125 for the worse! And as far as the prophet goes, I don't think he was a pedophile, if that's the way of life, only in the West is this a problem. But Elijah was a Muslim as well, so why couldnt he have young wives as well? You're suppose to want for your bros and sis' what you would want for yourselves right? And once a girl reaches puberty, that mean she's liable for pregnancy, western civilization makes you feel bad for that, but @ least Elijah Muhammad didn't marry a 9 yr. old!
@dollarbill125 And last, how many people have died in the NOI as oppose to Sunni Muslims and Christians and whatever other religious groups killing by the thousands or even millions when there were disagreements. The NOI was thriving, and the gov. manipulated weak, black men in to infiltrating the organization, point, blank, period! Why you think they could get to that pompous ass Malcolm? They saw his weakness! Did it ever occur to you that Elijah IS or was the Moses of the bible?
@TheButtermilkgirl Lmao trust me there are a lot i've heard stories from numerous people who have seen disputes get out of hand between NOI members...I use to be a member and i've seen some disputes, my father and mother have seen some, and even my grandmother and grandfather who use to be in the nation back in the 60s and 70s saw disputes get out of hand so im not going off false stories...and Malcolm being killed is a prime example...and Farracon's ass had the nerve
@TheButtermilkgirl to say Malcolm wanted to die and Allah obliged him...so Allah is just handing out death warrants now? I'll give you the NOI is a little more peaceful but that's because the members usually all agree with each other! But when someone doesn't agree that's when the problem arises! The government infiltrated a lot of organizations but that really has nothing to do with the legitimate problems Malcolm and Elijah had with each other
@TheButtermilkgirl the only place the government comes in is when Malcolm was killed and don't think Elijah didn't feel some way because Malcolm came back from Mecca and wasn't saying all white people were the devil like Elijah wanted his followers to believe...and shoot Farracon could be one of those weak minded individuals because he's done a lot of SUSPECT things over the years especially now
@dollarbill125 trying to save the ungrateful, "stiff-necked" children of Israel...yeah, people like you, if you are black. If not, you can go to hell with the rest of them! HE met with Allah in person, just like Moses met with Jehovah. Jehovah made himself known, like Master Fard Muhammad made himself known, and the children of Israel questioned Moses, just like we questioned Elijah. Yet, no one question Pharoah and his wicked ways in which he ruled Egypt, like no one questions the white man
@TheButtermilkgirl Elijah=Moses NOT! lol...and I am black but now you want to make this a matter of race lol...and Elijah met Allah in person? If that isn't the most bogus shit I've ever heard in my life...A man tells everybody he met ALLAH in person and now people are supposed to just believe him and with no kind of PROOF?...It's also real funny black people went through all the hardships of slavery but when things die down a little now god in person wants to come
@TheButtermilkgirl also did it ever occur to you that all this crap was a money scheme...according to the FBI documents which look and seem pretty damn real and factual Fard was a known con artist and thief! Also Malcolm would seem like Moses because no one was really questioning Elijah but him because everyone else was just lock in step with Elijah because he was the leader of the NOI...people had the mentality even if he's doing something wrong don't tell anyone because
@TheButtermilkgirl he's the leader just like you said in one of your comments...instead of voicing what's happening don't say anything and just leave...and who doesn't question white people here? lol..everytime I see someone from the NOI they're pretty much talking down to white people calling them all kinds of devils! But yet Farracon voiced he was letting these "white devils" into the NOI like they all of a sudden weren't devils anymore to him so what's up with that?
@dollarbill125 here, in the Belly of the Beast we call America! Being a Muslim is about peace, so if Malcolm didn't agree, he should have just walked away! Why did he wanna start so much confusion after black people were already divided? No good! So, therefore, you do get punished as hypocrites often do! He was a selfish ass, pompus jerk. I'm a tell you what kind of character he was, if you read his book, you'd know that he saud that after his father was killed, his family became poor so food
@TheButtermilkgirl Yes being a muslim is about peace but it doesn't mean just being tight lipped! Also Malcolm saying what he said still didn't really cause loss of peace people's reactions caused it and most of the violent ones were from the NOI you can even hear Farracon saying in one of his older speeche Malcolm deserved to die so where's the peace in that? Farracon is a hypocrite and he hasn't been punished yet lol...well Elijah is dead so lol...and yeah Malcolm was killed
@TheButtermilkgirl because both the NOI and government feared him...because he spoke the truth and wasn't going to stay tight lipped especially for Elijah's ass and he was still promoting black liberation so of course he would have to be killed by someone...he already said he knew he was a dead man...you went on about food and his eating habits as a child? Like I said you were just fishing for insults and bringing up irrelevant talk
@dollarbill125 was scarce. so, they'd go to bed often hungry, meaning they weren't full fromt he meal they had. So, Malcolm said that he woould cry, rant, and throw fits until HE and ONLY HE got enough food to fill his stomach for satisfaction. He didn't care that the rest of his siblings didn't have enough to eat, he only cared about satisfying his OWN appetite! And THAT WAS THE STORY OF MALCOLM X! BOOM! Take it or let it alone! And pick up a book while your at it, cuz u DON'T have a clue! LOL
The NOI teaches Islam and the followers are muslims. Islam means submission & peace and the NOI has minimal to no record of violence in it's history. Muslim means to submit to the will of God and the NOI members submit; all members take the Shahada; The NOI religious book is the Qu'ran; they adhere to the 5 principles of Islam (Belief in one God/Allah, Salat, fasting, zakat and Hajj to mecca). To confirm attend Jummah, Mosque Mariam. The NOI is still the NOI and under Farrakhan's guidance.
Man NOI is pretty racist, by the way I am from Afghanistan and grow up in so many countries I know how this black brother feeling are like. Boost with hatred. I was like That my country is mixed with a lot of etnicities and we have fights every day in some parts of my country for power. But hey we all human. Descendent of Adam and Eve. Black,white,orange lol, yellow, etc
Wow! First off his name was always Elijah, never Robert! Malcolm went to Mecca in the 50s waaay before 1964. If the rug was pulled out from under these teachings then why is the NOI still strengthening under the "iron Grip" of T.H.E.M! T.H.E.M taught us to stay away from superstition..wow ..lucky num 7?? Thats reaching!
Of course you were taught Islam by your father ya big dummy. He was raised up by Master Fard Muhammad...a Messenger to the blackman and woman of Amurdica.
Of course you were given Islam ya big dummy. That's all your father taught was real Islam, as it was taught to him by Master Fard Muhammad. This was medicine for the blackman in Amurdica. Our father were tricked into selling us into slavery 379 yrs. ago. We had the Qu'ran and Hadith' then and didn't know who the devil was...so we obviously needed more than that. We thank Allah for raising up a Messenger for us.
Elijah Muhammad never said he was a prophet. He is the messenger of Allah to us in North American and the oppressed thru out the world. These hypocrites that say the Nations followers are not muslim need to check them selves trying to imitate Arabs. Muslim means those who submit and bare witness to God.Many sunni do some of the things that EMuham. preached against. Drinking,smoke,curse,drugs,lust, while speaking arabic, going to the mosque,praying. All muslims have the same enemy Sunni or NOI.
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Malcolm taught violence and became the victim of the violence that he taught. The things he wished upon the Messenger was reversed upon him. When he thought he had friends that fateful day on 2/21/1965, his friends who were holding post infront of the stage, ran away and left him uncovered for the "special team" to move forward and carry out the Will of ALLAH. I thank those brothers who were on "post" that day for carrying out their duties as were assigned to them. Allah U Akbar !!!1
muhammadsalaam, please correct me however I thought Elijah Muhammad taught there was no hell, hell is right here on earth. How are we to encourage someone to burn by the fires of hell?
W. Deen Muhammad son of Elijah Muhammad seems alot like his Dad..humbled
duhjuce 3 weeks ago
'to the gettos' lol
duhjuce 3 weeks ago
whats with the scary music ?
duhjuce 3 weeks ago
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I have put together a three part video detailing the brief life of master fard muhammad. I'm inviting all NOI members and non-members to listen to the information I have gathered. To get the complete presentation, I suggest you listen to all three videos. youTube "WallaceDFard_1.wmv" type upper and lower case as is.
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lol you still havent proven anything. how are they cult like or hypocritical? wheres your proof. what black group would you consider to be upstanding?
abyss1ner 3 months ago
lol white people you gave yourselves a greater problem now you have a main stream black islam and a Nation of islam. lol you stupid devils made this better for us by splitting malcom from the messenger
abyss1ner 3 months ago
listen to the guy narrating the story, this is your enemy telling you about your brothers. what a joke this video.
abyss1ner 3 months ago
@abyss1ner
You're the joke "JackAss".
resumebwd 2 months ago
The message is key not the messenger
sowhat317 5 months ago
<3 Malcolm..........*speechless*
monptii 7 months ago
Muhammad salaam u are so wrong and noi is commiting shirk which is haraam in Islam. Ur submission to Allah alone should be enough. I understand why the N O I was found n why but to mention Islam in the same context as ur teachings is haraam .. noi should really change it's name it's giving Islam a bad name. Malcolm x found the truth may Allah grant him peace... An as for ur comment about agreeing with what happened to him. He will never die in our hearts he's words spoke the truth and since the
sustainence 1 year ago
if you watch mohammed ali's movie ( the greatest ), youll see that ali joined the n o islam when he heard malcolm x preaching and became friends with him, not after his death!!!!!! ali plays himself in the movie.
BANZAI313 1 year ago
The NATION of ISLAM has never been "Racist". Some people just dont have the BLESSING of Understanding. Also, If you are not a Black man or woman from North America, you should shut your DAMN MOUTH!! And Bring evidence if you have any.
hyphy503 1 year ago
@hyphy503 Lmao the NOI is a damn cult Malcolm exposed Elijah for his pedophile acts and the NOI had him killed...when did Malcolm put his hands on Elijah in a violent way? He spoke the truth and the NOI snakes had him killed...you can watch on here Farrakhan giving props to Malcolm's murderers and talking about how much of a traitor he was when Elijah was the real traitor..Farrakhan just talks out the side of his neck about it..and what blessing the people with those blessings have no common
dollarbill125 6 months ago
@dollarbill125 stop lying on people and let them gather the truth for theselves
abyss1ner 3 months ago
@abyss1ner lol I implore people to...I want people to see how cult like and hypocritical the NOI is especially Farracon
dollarbill125 3 months ago
@dollarbill125 How can Malcolm supposedly expose Elijah as a pedophile when he converted to Sunni, meaning he followed the Prophet Muhammad who married his youngest wife when she was 9 yrs. old? Who's the pedophile now? Malcolm was jealous and he just didn't get it! You don't play with these teachings, or you will get punished! Plus, Malcolm said in his own book that he first thought it was the NOI that was out to get him, then he realized it was somebody bigger out to get him!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Has the thought of "prophet Muhammad" being a pedophile every crossed your mind? People would be quick to say an average man dating, married, or having sex with a girl that young while being much older was a pedophile so how are these two any exception? This is why i don't like going back and forth with some religious people because they lack common damn sense, comprehension, and are hypocritical as hell
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl How was Malcolm jealous? Why was he punished? For what exposing the truth?! It's real funny how people will turn on someone for saying some real shit that they just don't like...and how was Malcolm punished...Allah punished Malcolm for exposing the truth huh?...well that's one hell of a god ya got...I guess your god is no different from the devil...oh wait Allah is all knowing but created the devil in the first place so what should i expect right
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl and just because it was the gov played a role in finally killing him doesn't mean the NOI wasn't out to get him...just like I said the NOI is a damn cult...the minute you don't agree with them or do something they don't agree with they want to hurt you and use Allah or prophet Muhammad as a cover to justify their words and actions...really no different from the damn christian church
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 whoa!!! u r absolutely erroneous! first off, Malcolm Little was an unreliable source. How can you just agree with what he says when in his book, the Autobio., he lied. First, he said he saw Master Fard Muhammad in person, in his jail cell, then he totally disagrees with Elijah. Next, he said Elijah's son Wallace told him everything, and later on Wallace denied that he told Malcolm (so one of them were lying), and finally, who was Malcolm to talk about another man's private life..
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl So Elijah trusted Malcolm to bring in members for the NOI but the minute he disagrees with Elijah he's a unreliable source? And I don't remember reading or hearing anybody say Malcolm said he met Fard in jail...and i'd believe Malcolm over Wallace because Wallace has been known to flop and change his stories around...And talk about his private life why not...Prophet Muhammad's personal life was put out there and since Elijah wanted to mimic the prophet
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 Elijah didn't just trust Malcolm to bring in followers, Malcolm wasn't the only member! And as far as him being gay, that book is not new. It was written in the early to mid-90's. And I didn't say if I believed it or not, the point I'm trying to make is that people could say anything, but who's to say what's the truth unless u can see it for yourself...see it manifest right in front of you! And everything Elijah has taught has been manifested RIGHT NOW as we are typing these...
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 words. Do you u disagree? Yes, Wallace was a liar, yet, that is where Malcolm supposedly got his info about Elijah's private life, so why do YOU believe it if Malcolm heard it from Wallace, but Wallace is a LIAR? And enough about the prophet already! Whether Elijah took on wives or not is HIS business! It still didn't take away him trying to ressurect the people! All that he has done to try to raise and lift black people up, and u wanna discredit him for Malcolm the LOSER,...
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Malcolm asked Elijah himself about what he was doing or did you just forget that? He didn't just go off of what Wallace was saying...and how much has Elijah, Farracon, or the NOI really done for black people?...shoot I think MLK and Malcolm did more than the NOI has done to this day...besides all the NOI does is TALK! NO ACTION! The least great creible thing they did was the million man march and MLK got way more people to march on Washington
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 ok, so he asked him! And Elijah didn't deny it! Can u blame him for not telling anybody! Look how they reacted, especially dealing with niggers like Malcolm! I respect MLK at the end, but what did he do but get black people abused! And Malcolm aint do a damn thing for blacks! His lectures were based off of his teachers, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad! And u are just like a nigga, always comparing who did what more! So what, MLK got more people, and? did we get our own land! did we
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 get our own schools, taught by our own, with the best education! Did we get our own hospitals? Furthermore, white people wanted us to be separated all this time, then all of a sudde, somebody with a hidden hand (mainly a Jew) wanted us to come together all of sudden? Does that make sense? So what, we had separate restaurants, bathrooms, etc! Good! I don't wanna be around white folk when I eat or use the bathroom after their disease-carrying asses!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Lol i'm not even going to read all of that...I just skimmed through it and majority of it sounds like hate talk and that's not what i'm about...but following Elijah for so long what should I expect...like you said GOODBYE!
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 HUSTLER, PIMP, and FAGGOT?! And if Farrakhan is gay, I could care less, because I don't follow him either, I study Elijah and only him! Now, Elijah could have taken on many women when he was younger, for he was a handsome man. But, he didn't! So why would he take on other wives when he got older unless it was divinely written of him? I mean, for that to be the reason Malcolm was killed would be dumb as hell! And Malcolm said it himself, that afterall, he didn't think it was the..
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl He didn't get with them because he didn't know about the prophet then...and divinely written? Sounds like BULL to me...so any man can pull that prophet divine written crap and just pull "wives"? Still a nasty ass pedophile in my opinion...and if him sleeping with young girls wasn't anything to him why did he allow the NOI to get out of hand with it? Refresh yourself in what they were doing to get at malcolm because of what he said
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 the NOI. He said this, but y'all still wanna think less of Elijaj because y'all so damn ungrateful! Elijah was dead on when he said the white man was the devil! People who run this world are white! They do the most inhumane things and cause war and bloodshed, and care about capitalism, ONLY, and any other peversion, these white people, and u gon' say they're NOT the devil? Are you kidding me? And I know y'all gon' say it's devils in every race, and I'm not saying that everyone ..
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl I say screw Elijah call me ungrateful if you want lol...and there are devils in every race but it doesn't have a skin color...and they say people that follow the NOI don't preach hate and racism lol...be real with yourself!...but if you want to get on race who has killed more blacks than blacks? Shoot it was our own ancestors that helped put us in slavery so what does that tell you? So im not being racist and hateful like you and putting the devil title
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 blacks have killed more blacks than blacks because of the cause of division via the white man! everybody and they mama know dat!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Blacks were killing blacks back in Africa pre slavery and where were whites then...can't blame every damn thing on white people...Malcolm said his disturbances about Elijah and nation members wanted his head...really no white people directly in that situation either
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 how the hell do u know if Blacks were killing blacks? Were u there? Bye Uncle Tom or Aunt Toma! And last, if white people and every race really wanted to get along with us and intermix, which would lead to interracial mixing, that would be the demise of the recessant genes. Black is dominate and would erase other races! So, why would anyone wanna mix with us? There would be no more them! We can ALL respect each other, but we DON'T have to love or live with each other!!!! BYE!!!!!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Lol exactly hatred and separatism...and you sound like the real SELLOUT!...and were they killing each there just DO YOUR RESEARCH!...and stop worrying about the damn color of our skin so much and focus on how happy and peaceful our people and along with the rest of civilization...there is more to being black then our damn skin color but I can't expect someone that's been listening to Elijah so damn long to understand that...and for the last time AGAIN! BYE!
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl especially when Farracon sounds like a damn devil in this video in the video "Farrakhan Praises Malcolm X Killers [1972] "
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 else it totally innocent, for there are ugly people in every race, including the black, but when u say devil, they are people who hide the truth, people who have their focus on dividing and conquering every avenue of the earth! People who won't let you have peace within your own nation! So, why would u want to worship your God with them? I'd rather have another God or Allah! And as far as gov. documents go, how do u know they're true? How do we know if what anything said is true?
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Farracon hides truths all the time especially Elijah so don't act like they just let everything be known...and if white people are the devils why is Farracon always shaking hands with them kissing ass...just look at what he did to Khalid Muhammad after Jews started complaining...Farracon sold Khalid out because his massas got mad when all Khalid was saying was NOI hate Jew 101
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Whose to say its not true? especially what they said about Fard...and lets be real you have to be off your rocker to say god came in him...so we go through all this crap NOW god wants to come? Sounds like cult crap to me...and it goes lock in step with what they said about him and his fraud scandals
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 yes we go thru this crap! he came, raised up a messenger, and told US what we needed to do! We did it for a little while, and then what happened? Men, like Malcolm and any other loser who really didn't believe! Everybody thought they knew more than the meseenger, so therefore we suffer! We suffer because of our own "stiff-necked"ness, it's no one's fault but our own! We can't unite, because everybody wanna be right!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl If Elijah said shoot yourself in the foot you would probably do it because he knows everything...So you mean to tell me I can say god came to me in a person and told me everything and im divine now? LMAO I wonder what he was smoking when he planned that one...people believed that more so because of the times they were living in than the common sense of it...and that's one late ass god lol...just like they said about Fard he's a good con man
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl If people want to believe different than the messenger let them! If he was all right and knowing people wouldn't feel the need to object to anything he did because he was instucted by god and god knows his creations...but maybe he wasn't instructed by god ever thought of that but I don't expect you to be open minded enough to thin that lol...maybe you're the "stiff-necked" one
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 we don't know if what Elijah, Fard, Malcolm , or anyone else said is true, unless we can see it for ourselves! And I'm sorry, but what I see that Allah and his meseenger has taught has been absolutely true! I'm not a member of the nation, I'm only 27, I've been reading for 3 yrs. now, and I stand with Allah and his messenger! And like I said, if Malcolm was so thorough, his organization would still be here! U gotta start from the bottom up like everyone else. Matter of fact,
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Lets be real Malcolm movement wasn't going to last without him unless he named a successor and it's real funny the main one gunning for Malcolm became the successor of the NOI...Farracon can talk hate all they want but mindless sheep will believe them...and if you question what they say or do they want to hurt you
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 does that make any type of sense? They wouldn't last unless he appointed a successor? Now, you're just speculating! IF what he was saying was pure truth, someone would have just taken over, like what Farrkahan did after he left Wallace and that Old-World Islam! He saw that Elijah's way was the truth (and I think him for that, and only that) and came back. So, if Malcolm's followers truly loved him, they would have kept the organization alive, no matter what! But the black man can
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 act pussilanimously, as they usually do! Gunning for Malcolm? what do u mean? supporting him, or calling him a traitor and hypocrite, because Farrakhan went for the latter!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 the Panthers were built off of Malcolm's teachings, which was really based off of Elijah's teachings, but everyone wants to give Malcolm the credit. And look what happend to the Panthers...gunned down, framed, jailed, because that wasn't the route to take. Ur suppose to build for independence, not try to fight when u know ur not gon' win! And it is in the autobio. that Malcolm said he saw Fard! I'm an English major and I do close readings all the time, so perhaps u should reread..
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl If what the Panthers were for were originally from Elijah then why did Elijah bitch out when it came to confrontations with the police? He didn't want to be involved in anything to do with them but THAT's who the Panthers learned from? The Panthers were for self sustainability so maybe you need to read more...so the Panthers couldn't win? How were they any less likely to succeed than the NOI...maybe it's because the Panthers were for action and the NOI
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 He didn't have anything to do with them because they preached of bearing arms, and Elijah said that Allah said "No Guns!" And as u can see, Elijah was correct! The white man has an army, with guns and nuclear weapons, how did the Panthers think that they were gonna defeat them? And they didn't either! There are no more Panthers, well, at least it took them many years to resurface thanks to Dr. Khalid, but even Dr. Khalid died, because he went against the teachings of Elijah!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 and action! Yeah, Elijah was trying to ressurect black people, to come together and LIVE. How many men and women died, falsely jailed, and committed some type of crime in the BPP? A lot! And they quikly dismantled too! People still love Elijah, and I'm one of them! I don't like Malcolm because he was a liar, hypocrite, and divisive! Like I said, Islam means submit to Allah, which ultimately means PEACE! Was Malcolm being peaceful when he spoke against the messenger? Name calling?
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 don't sound like a Muslim to me!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl was ALL TALK!...that's why Farracon is never really sought after by anybody even though he talks like he is...it's because all he does is TALK! Unless you're taking action or saying something they really don't want said they wouldn't want to kill you...All Elijah or Farracon said was basic common sense, hate talk, and stuff that could easily be known if people would bother to pick up more books so they weren't say anything too revealing
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 Let's not mention Farrakhan! I don't give a damn about him! I told you, I follow the messenger and my Allah, ONLY! If you don't agree with the teachings, then so be it! Do whatever works for you! Furthermore, people that follow Farrakhan may not do much, but there are plenty of people who study and follow Elijah's teachings and have their own businesses, schools, newspapers, radio shows, restaurants, and in the process of opening hospitals and clinics...my uncle is one of them!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
so u need to stop being so damn close-minded! What are you doing? Huh? You damn sure wouldn't have the time to be on here if you were out takin' action! LOL
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl MLK and Malcolm were talkers and doers really for the uplifting of black people not just talking, making money, taking trips, and going home
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 that book! and all that other crap you wrote, I'm not even going to address it! U can't persuade people who truly LOVE the messenger, to go against him! But I will not let anyone diminish his character because of some NOBODY like Malcolm Little, the pompous jackass!!!!! ANd i don't trust Alex Haley either!!!!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl You can LOVE the "Messenger" all you want but I don't and i'll say what ever I want just like you talk about Malcolm
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 and what do u mean, why not air his dirty laundry? Because he took on more wives? Like I said, did he air his dirty laundry about his sexual life? Bruce Perry couldn't print that book if it were false, he would be sued for liability! He said he had sources from people who knew Malcolm well, that's y noone knows about the book! And the last book on Malcolm by Manning Marable, talks about the relationship between him and his wife, Betty. It wasn't a pleasant one. Furthermore...
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 Malcolm also said that he told the brothers to "spit acid" at the sisters! He didn't even like women like that! All you have to do is read between the lines! So, I'm saying is, everyone wanna say he exposed Elijah for being with younger women, but he didn't even care about women in the first place! And he was nothing like Moses. Moses had a speech impediment, Moses wanted to seperate the children from Egypt, while Malcolm wanted to reunite them again! If you read the Bible,
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Really spit acid? Where did you read that at? And i'd like to hear from these sources because anybody can say this person said this...and if Malcolm were gay i'm sure it would've been said by then...and you can lose me with all the bible talk...and he saw Elijah for who he was...it's funny dude had sex with teenage women I guess for his kids to follow him but how has his kids even helped black people in some divine way? Dude just wanted to get his rocks off
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 Obviously, you don't study or read his book! I took a Black History course this summer, and my professor had documentation of Malcolm saying this! I have no reason to lie! Malcolm did say in his book that he saw Master Fard Muhammad, again, I have no reason to lie! Last, maybe it wasn't revealed until Bruce Perry's book came out, because nobody knew it until that man gathered sources and put it all together! I have no reason to lie about that either, so don't be mad @ me, read!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 type in Bruce Perry and Malcolm X on ya search engine! And if Elijah had sex with teenagers, which were his wives, and? Big deal! He's a man, an NO man comes w/o flaws! No, he didn't publicize his love life, but then again, neither did Malcolm come out about his homosexual encounters, and that's his business! But you can't be a kettle and call the pot black! ANd Malcolm's alternative lifestyle is waaaaay more subversive than Elijah's don't u think? LOL
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 Malcolm was more like Amalek in the Bible! It's already written! If u wanna talk about a hero, u can 2 least give credit to MLK! Yeah, he was way off with this whole intergration talk, but after he saw the devils for who they really were, and after his talk with the HOnorable Elijah Muhammad, his speech changed from "we" to "Us"! WHy you think his wife did a book on Elijah, not Malcolm! Elijah's the ONLY way! and I'm done with this! Goodbye!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl and I give MLK all the credit in the world for what he did and what he was striving for...bringing people together and trying to end racism within us...not trying to continue with it like Elijah and Farracon...I was glad Malcolm cut the hate Elijah was teaching him and saw the truth...i'm sure Elijah didn't like Malcolm who was almost as popular as him coming with a different view...and Elijah wasn't for bringing all races together lol
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 first of all, you can't end racism! People are who they are, and you can't change that! Furthermore, everybody doesn't have to be together! There's no rule that says everybody has to get along! You can respect each other, but u don't have to live with each other! Everybody is still separated anyway, so what are u talking about! And Elijah wasn't teaching hate, if he were, he would say, "Everytime you see a white person, shoot them! Stab them! Burn them! Rape the women and...
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 children! Hang them! Spit on them! Tar and feather them! Mutilate the men! Burn a cross on THEIR front lawns! Deny treatment at the hospitals and let them suffer and die!" Oh my bad, that's what white people have done to us, but YOU still want everybody to come together! You love ya "open-enemy" huh? Well, I guess we have nothing more else to chat about ! You love white people, I love independent-thinking black people! So I guess we're done?
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl just like Farracon he preached hate and only changed what they were saying when it suited them...even Elijah brought in damn Nazis to speak like really?...Malcolm was moving more towards we to us on his own i'm sure he wasn't going to Elijah to learn that...and if Elijah is the only way we're all doomed...but goodbye and good riddance!
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl so much why not put his out there? Why not air his dirty laundry? Why not expose him? He spent so much time talking about what white people are doing why not talk about what he's doing? And if everything he was doing could be justified by the Qu'ran why didn't he just come out with it in the first place? Even Farracon said Elijah didn't tell his followers because they wouldn't understand YET prophet Muhammad was doing the same thing so why wouldn't they
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl understand? Probably because he was doing a little more than just taking wives and he didn't want people seeing or thinking he was abusing his power...and from what I hear some men in the NOI with some power have been known to sleep around a little or use marriage as a way of just justifying having multiple women...If Malcolm didn't agree he still had the right to voice his thoughts...what Elijah can not agree with people and voice his opinions against them
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 to the public?! If he didn't agree with Elijah, he should have left, and if he was THE TRUTH, people would have followed him anyway. After he got killed, what happened to the organization he built and the followers who left with him? HIs own bros. and sisters stayed in the NOI. Point, he was jealous because Elijah wifed a woman he was in love with. ANd speaking of him and women, he had a bittersweet relationship with the female sex, because HE forgot to mention his sexuality. He..
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl but Malcolm can't do the same?...People probably still wouldn't of left because religious people are for the most part brainwashed...if Malcolm had sex with a 9 year old and said prophet Muhammad did it they would probably say hey it's ok because the prophet did it, etc...Lets be real Malcolm's organization didn't have as much structure as the NOI so without its leader it would eventually fall but that doesn't mean there wasn't any truth in what he spoke
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl I don't think Malcolm would be that petty but shoot Elijah was getting at women Malcolm had brought into the nation...and gay? I HIGHLY disbelieve that...if he was gay then in all this time why hasn't it been said? In all the interviews, government files, etc why hasn't it been said?...it's also funny a new book says Malcolm is gay with little to know evidence and you're quick to believe it to discredit him...and the same people saying he's gay also said
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Farracon was gay so if you want to believe all of that then you also have to acknowledge you're following a faggot in Farracon! It's also funny you'll believe possible racist white guys real quick because I believe the only authors saying he was gay were white authors while plenty of black men have probably written books about Malcolm...so I think you were just fishing for insults on that one
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 wanna talk about the messenger's personal life, but forgot to disclose the fact that he was a homosexual, or bisexual. He didn't mention his past as a male prostitute but wanna talk about the messenger and his wives! If you don't believe me, Bruce Perry wrote a book on it; "Malcolm: The Man Who Changed Black America" or something like that! So y'all wanna name call and call Elijah a pedophile, when Malcolm was a damn faggot! HE was a liar and he did change black america...
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 for the worse! And as far as the prophet goes, I don't think he was a pedophile, if that's the way of life, only in the West is this a problem. But Elijah was a Muslim as well, so why couldnt he have young wives as well? You're suppose to want for your bros and sis' what you would want for yourselves right? And once a girl reaches puberty, that mean she's liable for pregnancy, western civilization makes you feel bad for that, but @ least Elijah Muhammad didn't marry a 9 yr. old!
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 And last, how many people have died in the NOI as oppose to Sunni Muslims and Christians and whatever other religious groups killing by the thousands or even millions when there were disagreements. The NOI was thriving, and the gov. manipulated weak, black men in to infiltrating the organization, point, blank, period! Why you think they could get to that pompous ass Malcolm? They saw his weakness! Did it ever occur to you that Elijah IS or was the Moses of the bible?
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Lmao trust me there are a lot i've heard stories from numerous people who have seen disputes get out of hand between NOI members...I use to be a member and i've seen some disputes, my father and mother have seen some, and even my grandmother and grandfather who use to be in the nation back in the 60s and 70s saw disputes get out of hand so im not going off false stories...and Malcolm being killed is a prime example...and Farracon's ass had the nerve
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl to say Malcolm wanted to die and Allah obliged him...so Allah is just handing out death warrants now? I'll give you the NOI is a little more peaceful but that's because the members usually all agree with each other! But when someone doesn't agree that's when the problem arises! The government infiltrated a lot of organizations but that really has nothing to do with the legitimate problems Malcolm and Elijah had with each other
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl the only place the government comes in is when Malcolm was killed and don't think Elijah didn't feel some way because Malcolm came back from Mecca and wasn't saying all white people were the devil like Elijah wanted his followers to believe...and shoot Farracon could be one of those weak minded individuals because he's done a lot of SUSPECT things over the years especially now
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 trying to save the ungrateful, "stiff-necked" children of Israel...yeah, people like you, if you are black. If not, you can go to hell with the rest of them! HE met with Allah in person, just like Moses met with Jehovah. Jehovah made himself known, like Master Fard Muhammad made himself known, and the children of Israel questioned Moses, just like we questioned Elijah. Yet, no one question Pharoah and his wicked ways in which he ruled Egypt, like no one questions the white man
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Elijah=Moses NOT! lol...and I am black but now you want to make this a matter of race lol...and Elijah met Allah in person? If that isn't the most bogus shit I've ever heard in my life...A man tells everybody he met ALLAH in person and now people are supposed to just believe him and with no kind of PROOF?...It's also real funny black people went through all the hardships of slavery but when things die down a little now god in person wants to come
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl also did it ever occur to you that all this crap was a money scheme...according to the FBI documents which look and seem pretty damn real and factual Fard was a known con artist and thief! Also Malcolm would seem like Moses because no one was really questioning Elijah but him because everyone else was just lock in step with Elijah because he was the leader of the NOI...people had the mentality even if he's doing something wrong don't tell anyone because
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl he's the leader just like you said in one of your comments...instead of voicing what's happening don't say anything and just leave...and who doesn't question white people here? lol..everytime I see someone from the NOI they're pretty much talking down to white people calling them all kinds of devils! But yet Farracon voiced he was letting these "white devils" into the NOI like they all of a sudden weren't devils anymore to him so what's up with that?
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 here, in the Belly of the Beast we call America! Being a Muslim is about peace, so if Malcolm didn't agree, he should have just walked away! Why did he wanna start so much confusion after black people were already divided? No good! So, therefore, you do get punished as hypocrites often do! He was a selfish ass, pompus jerk. I'm a tell you what kind of character he was, if you read his book, you'd know that he saud that after his father was killed, his family became poor so food
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl Yes being a muslim is about peace but it doesn't mean just being tight lipped! Also Malcolm saying what he said still didn't really cause loss of peace people's reactions caused it and most of the violent ones were from the NOI you can even hear Farracon saying in one of his older speeche Malcolm deserved to die so where's the peace in that? Farracon is a hypocrite and he hasn't been punished yet lol...well Elijah is dead so lol...and yeah Malcolm was killed
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@TheButtermilkgirl because both the NOI and government feared him...because he spoke the truth and wasn't going to stay tight lipped especially for Elijah's ass and he was still promoting black liberation so of course he would have to be killed by someone...he already said he knew he was a dead man...you went on about food and his eating habits as a child? Like I said you were just fishing for insults and bringing up irrelevant talk
dollarbill125 1 month ago
@dollarbill125 was scarce. so, they'd go to bed often hungry, meaning they weren't full fromt he meal they had. So, Malcolm said that he woould cry, rant, and throw fits until HE and ONLY HE got enough food to fill his stomach for satisfaction. He didn't care that the rest of his siblings didn't have enough to eat, he only cared about satisfying his OWN appetite! And THAT WAS THE STORY OF MALCOLM X! BOOM! Take it or let it alone! And pick up a book while your at it, cuz u DON'T have a clue! LOL
TheButtermilkgirl 1 month ago
but are brainwashed to the real truth
dollarbill125 6 months ago
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The NOI teaches Islam and the followers are muslims. Islam means submission & peace and the NOI has minimal to no record of violence in it's history. Muslim means to submit to the will of God and the NOI members submit; all members take the Shahada; The NOI religious book is the Qu'ran; they adhere to the 5 principles of Islam (Belief in one God/Allah, Salat, fasting, zakat and Hajj to mecca). To confirm attend Jummah, Mosque Mariam. The NOI is still the NOI and under Farrakhan's guidance.
DRXCIX 1 year ago
They are the devil! they know what they have done to nubians in america.
blackfalconsungodzzz 1 year ago
Man NOI is pretty racist, by the way I am from Afghanistan and grow up in so many countries I know how this black brother feeling are like. Boost with hatred. I was like That my country is mixed with a lot of etnicities and we have fights every day in some parts of my country for power. But hey we all human. Descendent of Adam and Eve. Black,white,orange lol, yellow, etc
ProtectorOn2 1 year ago
Wow! First off his name was always Elijah, never Robert! Malcolm went to Mecca in the 50s waaay before 1964. If the rug was pulled out from under these teachings then why is the NOI still strengthening under the "iron Grip" of T.H.E.M! T.H.E.M taught us to stay away from superstition..wow ..lucky num 7?? Thats reaching!
MrArtofwar3000 1 year ago
@MrArtofwar3000 he also taught you to stay away from fornication and adultery-shame he couldn't practice what he preached!
AlHaqDeen 1 year ago
Of course you were taught Islam by your father ya big dummy. He was raised up by Master Fard Muhammad...a Messenger to the blackman and woman of Amurdica.
nubiagold 1 year ago
Of course you were given Islam ya big dummy. That's all your father taught was real Islam, as it was taught to him by Master Fard Muhammad. This was medicine for the blackman in Amurdica. Our father were tricked into selling us into slavery 379 yrs. ago. We had the Qu'ran and Hadith' then and didn't know who the devil was...so we obviously needed more than that. We thank Allah for raising up a Messenger for us.
nubiagold 1 year ago
Elijah Muhammad never said he was a prophet. He is the messenger of Allah to us in North American and the oppressed thru out the world. These hypocrites that say the Nations followers are not muslim need to check them selves trying to imitate Arabs. Muslim means those who submit and bare witness to God.Many sunni do some of the things that EMuham. preached against. Drinking,smoke,curse,drugs,lust, while speaking arabic, going to the mosque,praying. All muslims have the same enemy Sunni or NOI.
bigreef2007 2 years ago 2
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Malcolm taught violence and became the victim of the violence that he taught. The things he wished upon the Messenger was reversed upon him. When he thought he had friends that fateful day on 2/21/1965, his friends who were holding post infront of the stage, ran away and left him uncovered for the "special team" to move forward and carry out the Will of ALLAH. I thank those brothers who were on "post" that day for carrying out their duties as were assigned to them. Allah U Akbar !!!1
muhammadsalaam 2 years ago
You need your tongue cut out and burned in Hell fire for such filthy talk about Messenger Elijah Muhammad.
muhammadsalaam 2 years ago
If u will not cut out the tongue of your enemy, don't express such thoughts to other original people.
BigBenLBC 2 years ago
muhammadsalaam, please correct me however I thought Elijah Muhammad taught there was no hell, hell is right here on earth. How are we to encourage someone to burn by the fires of hell?
1LHPrincess 2 years ago