@deetjay1 I think the platform is getting outdated on that part. Its a 30 year old AA system, I'm sure a new one is being researched to replace the old generation AA systems.
@deetjay1 I don't think speed is an issue. Mach 2 has being achieved decades ago if I am not wrong and aircraft speeds have been kept constant or went down to trade for other features. Besides, most cruise missiles are sub-sonic so having one of these things really make missile barrages or helicopter operations difficult.
The guy is basically saying Tunguska was an answer to A-10 and other close attack air targets. It was supposed to travel with a group of tanks/infantry and protect them.
@vq30detcomanche Stealth technology is a little overrated, since an aircraft needs its own radar to function effectively, and the radio waves emitted by that radar are very, very easy to detect and follow to their source. The entire point of anti-radar missiles is to do just that.
So basically, a stealth aircraft is invisible to radar as long as it isn't using its own. Which just leads to people looking into alternate methods of detection. Like infrared emissions, which can't be hidden.
Current stealth tech is optimised for radars working in the X-band ((Centimeter) most aircraft mounted radars). But can be detected with radars working in the L-band (metric).
What do you mean the difference between X and L band is? Centimeters are a metric value, or do you mean that X works in centimeters and L works in meters and this changes the characteristics?
@Ghostwind1 or even the doppler radars which Oz used to detect F117s during war games. shocked the yanks as they didn't realise they were being tracked from way out.
@peterpiperriperreter Hardly. The B2 is a high-altitude strategic bomber. It mainly uses GPS navigation to find its targets, and this being a strategic bomber we're talking about, those targets are quite large. You don't use one to kill a tank column or a bunker, you use one to attack a city or an airfield. You don't need radar for that.
And it has to fly quite high to make sure its exhaust heat is hidden from ground AA. It's useless for tactical strikes.
@Ghostwind1 it has thermal camouflage, and it does leave heat signatures. But, the thermal camouflage distributes the heat in a way that it doesn't look like a plane on radar.
@peterpiperriperreter It doesn't matter if it doesn't look like a plane on radar, it will still be quite obvious that a thermal signature at that altitude and moving that fast is a B-2. It may not be enough for an SAM to get a reliable kill, but it would still be a sitting duck for an interceptor with a FLIR.
I will admit that stealth has much more use on a bomber than it does on a fighter. The B-2 is a very good bomber, but don't think it's anywhere near invisible.
@Husar101 Serbia has sold it's arse to the enemy???Serbia is fighting with 19 NATO countries two mounts,while Russia remained silent, while Serbia has sold
...Small Serbia VS 19 big NATO countries,where is our sister Russia?Anywhere!Yeltsin drunk with Clinton
@Husar101 Serbia asked Russia 1998 and 1999 for S 300 and remont MIG 29,and purchase of new aircraft. In time before the bombing.Serbia needed the support of Russia and weapons because she was alone and has always been an ally of Russia.Serbia and Belarus are the only ally of Russia in Europe.
@Husar101 Serbia has no more power for the war ... no weapons, no support, Serbia is alone...we want to fight, but it is now impossible, we are too weak, too much pressure is on us ...Serbia is economically and militarily weak.Serbia should wait...
@Husar101 If you notice russia and USA are been selling they old equipment. Serbia border nations are buying f-16s and Mig 29s you need a long range AAA Defense system. S-300 can attack flying objects, ground and navy targets. a super defense system. Buy tanks and aircraps are useless against a good defense system. Can fight in network along with tunguskasan, Tors and Buks systems.
... die Entwicklung des Gepard. Doch wenn man Ahnung von Technik hat, stellt man ziemlich schnell die technischen Unterschiede fest.
Daher komm ic h zu der Lösung, das du kein technisches Wissen hast, sondern, wie dein Username schon sagt, nur patriotischen Schwachsinn quatscht, um dich toll zu fühlen :-)
... die automatisch sind, SEITLICH am Turm montiert und mittig am Turm die ganze Sensorig und Radar, um unabhänig operieren zu können. Damit war der Gepard der Erste seiner Art. Und, ei der Daus, ein paar Jahre später haben die Russen einen Flakpanzer eingeführt, der exakt die kleiche technische Auslegung wie der Gepard hatte. Seltsam oder??? ;-)
Und das mit dem M42 ist anders zu verstehen. Deutschland wollte auch einen Flakpanzer, nachdem der M42 eingeführt wurde. Daher ...
@takajong 8 SAM missiles getting 8 hits?!! historically, Russian systems manage less than a 10% hit rate... even Yugoslavia, which had a bang up to date air defense system had very little success against a NATO force. No one plans to invade or mess with Russia, there is no need, vodka and corruption are doing the job just fine.
Wau mister , you got something wrong.From '60's, coming russian SAM weapon that bring down F 117, "nighthawk" that supposed to be invinsible BTW, in very same Yugoslavia that you mention and for sure that is not the "up the date air defense system.That old school SAMs combined with new school S-400 give supremacy in air for Russia, like it or not.They can bring down anything.The real question is Can you bring down them ? If you wait for vodka&corruption...you are late...
You are joking right? Yugoslavia only had 60's-70's stuff. The only modern assets were Igla Manpads. Even today they operate legacy S-125, Kub-M, Strela-1 and Strela 10.
Also the NATO operated at high altitudes under extensive use of jamming devices. Under such circumstances it's a wonder that the Yugos managed to keep their Air Defense largely intact.
@Thewestcoastshooter Serbia had Kub M1 and Pechora S125 Neva....and Bofors 40mm AA Guns and locally build 3x20mm BOV3.....what of that is "UP TO DATE" -.-.... Try again....
@PoseidonGRE Greece? Who? Never heard of them... irrelevant country full of nobodys. At least the Russians i was arguing with are from somewhere that matters.
@couteau86 Das einzig ähnliche an beiden Panzern ist, dass sie die Kanonen an den Seiten haben und den Radar hinten bzw. oben auf dem Turm. Tunguska's verfügen über Raketen, Gepards nicht. Ich wette, dass der Nachfolger des Gepards Raketen besitzen wird, aber das sieht dann einfach nur nach einer Kopie aus. In 2 Jahren sollen die Gepards ausgemustert werden, angäblich soll der es durch Roland 2 ersätzt werden.
Ich finde deine Auslegung der Sachen recht lustig ... DU hattest zumindest festgestellt, das sie sich sehr ähnlich sehen. Oder mit anderen Worten und was ich die ganze Zeit schon sage, die Russen hatten, natürlich auf ihrer Technik bassierent, das Konzept und Design des Gepard übernommen. Und wie gesagt, das ist eigentlich ein allgemein bekannter Fakt ...
@ SovjetPhoenix und wie der Gepard Raketen hat! An der rechten Seite an der Laufaufhängung werden bei der weiterentwickelten Version zwei AA-Raketen angebracht!
@Truckosaurus15 Ja aber auch nur in der erweiterten Version, bei einem Tunguska ist es Standart! Man könnte Tunguskas auch modernisieren & mit noch mehr Raketen ausstatten.
@MegaLangosta no...we're not in the year 1945 fool....russia tech is retarted if you compare it with germanys weapons or us weapons....you can compare it with every country...tunguska is very old and not on the actually stae of modern tech....its from the 70s. how can they be master ?!?!?! they are nothing against each nation on the world
it is a very clear copy ! the first was the ghepard ! the only advantages tunguska has,it has rockets ...but the recent developments upgraded the gepard,including rockets...so the ghepard is much better than the tunguska ...
The Gepard can be upgraded with Stinger missiles (it's not standard equipment) which have shorter range than the Tunguska missiles. The Tunguska can be upgraded by using components from the Pantsir-S1 (SA-22)
@acvaticlifE Well during the WW2 they invested a lot of resources in future technologies which doesn't worked properly. Like V2 Rockets and Jet-planes. They maybe were high tech but not really good quality cause you always need time to test new technologies. In general it was not really smart. And if you look at German tanks like Panther, Tiger, Elephant, King-tiger they all had heavy constriction and engine problems. How much of them were lost only cause of weak engine?!
If it is so ... than you also can say, that the FlakPz Gepard replacement for the 3,7 cm Flak 43 L/60 "Ostwind" or the Flakpanzer IV (2 cm) auf Fgst. Pz.Kmpfw. IV "Wirbelwind" ...
It's a official fact, that the Russians copy the basicdesign from the FlakPz Gepard.
Früher oder später hätte Russland eh einen Flak Panzer entwickelt. Nur weil Deutschland als erstes Land so einen Flak Panzer hatte, heißt es nicht dass alle anderen Länder kopieren. Es war eine gute Idee Flak Panzer zu bauen, aber es war von anfang an klar, dass andere Länder ihre eigenen Flak Panzer später bauen würden. Tunguska wäre erst dann eine Kopie, wenn sie das know-how vom Gepard verwendet hätten, aber das machten sie ja nicht.
Das ist Heut zu Tage Allegemein bekannt, fas die Ruussen den Gepard kopiert haben. Das ist genau so Allgemein bekannt, wie das die Deutschen die schräge Panzerung des T-34 übernammen haben ...
Wie Husar101 schon sagte, Tunguska ist ein Nachfolger des ZSU-23-4 Flak Panzers, der früher als der Gepard gebaut wurde. Das heißt, dass weder das Design, noch die Funktion vom Gepard kopiert wurden. Es wurde nur russisches Know how verwendet, so wie bei allen Panzern aus russischer Produktion.
Dann solltest du mal den Tunguska mit dem ZSU-23-4 und dem Gepard vergleichen. Spätestens dann fällt auf, das der Tunguska dem Gepard ähnlicher ist, als dem ZUS-23-4 ...
@couteau86 Die deutschen sind doch nur neidisch das russen besseren waffen haben, ein idiot sagt das tunguska eine kopie von gepard ist anderen depen sagen das ak47 eine kopie von sg44 ist,sag mir das su35 eine kopie von tornado ist oder das t90 eine kopie von leopard2 ist und ich kriege lachanfall.
Öhm, sorry für dich, aber die Russen haben beim Tunguska das Konzept des Geparden übernommen, genau wie das AK47 eine Nachbildung des Funktionskonzeptes des SG44 ist. Solltest dich mal etwas informieren und nicht nur mit solchen billigen Argumentationen wie "ihr seid neidisch" kommen. Einfach grund ist, dass das einfache technische Daten sind. Die russischen Ingenieure geben es sogr zu, das es genau so ist ... Und was soll der Scheiß mit dem T-90???
@couteau86 Tunguska ist nachfolger von zsu-23schilka und keine kopie von gepard wen wir über kopie reden dann muss du amerikaner fragen und die werden sagen das die deutschen gepard auf basis des m42 duster gebaut haben da der duster 1956 gebaut wurde und die deutschen den gepard erst 1965 kannst du sehen wer beim wem abgekukt hat auserdem war der duster bei den deutschen im eisatz und die hatten viel zeit zu studieren um später nachzubauen, ein kaspar denkt das er besser ist als der andere.
Junge, guck dir mal die technische Auslegungen der Maschinen an. Natürlich ist der Tunguska der offiziele Nachfolger des ZSU-23. Ändert aber nix dran, das die komplete technische Auslegung des Tunguska vom Gepard kopiert wurde. Vergleich mal, ZSU-23 und auch der M42 "Duster" waren Panzerfahrgestelle mit einem Turm, in dem, mittig, eine mehrfach Flak-Kanone eingebaut wurde, wie es schon im WW2 gemacht wurde. Beim Gepard jedoch wurden 2 rückstoßfreie Hochleistungskononen ...
Und du sagst es, das gesamte Grundkonzept ist eine Kopie des Gepard. Festgestellt hast du es ja schon, aber deine Worte beweisen, das du es nicht akzeptieren kannst. Schade, das deine Liebe zu Russland dir dein logisches Urteil nimmt ...
Und nur so nebenbei, der Gepard besitzt an der rechten Turmseite einen Zweifachstarter für FIM-92 "Stinger".
@couteau86 Ist nicht einfach direkt zu antworten, wenn Youtube ständig spinnt (man sieht nicht die neuesten Comments)
Wo habe ich denn zugestimmt, dass der Tunguska Panzer eine Kopie ist? Ich habe nur die Ähnlichkeiten genannt, aber nie gemeint, dass Tunguska eine Kopie ist. Der Nachfolger des Gepards wird entweder eine Kopie des Tunguska Panzers oder sie stellen sowas wie das russiche Luftabwehrsystem Panzir-S ein.
@OpticalSnare That's 'The Man's too Strong' by Dire Straits. I was instantly thrown back to my Childhood as soon as I heard that, really strange feeling.
they should put that gun on the M1 tunguska on their Su-25, its better than the GAU-8. i mean just look at that volume of fire it produces, its insane.
i agree, because russian aircraft usually use a single barrel cannon, if it start to use the gun used in tunguska it would have more chance to hit multiple targets near each other too.
I take it back, the russians turned out to have an even better self-propelled AA than this awesome one, its called Pantsir-S1, and it can take out all sealth aircraft, with also a better range.
Tunguska is designed to destroy small low flying targets even such as small missiles automatically. It can work in such mode that it just auto shots everything that flies. And btw it can shoot as it moves, it dons't need to stop.
Fires 5000 rounds per minute, it's missile flies with 3xsuppersonic speed.
As very short translation, this thing can do everything automated, and even fight ground forces. It can capture target from 18km range and automatically follow the target until it in fire range. It can fire at 10 km range using missiles and at 4km range using gun.
The crew there is mostly to control what it does, automatics there can even aim and shot suddenly appeared Aircraft cowboy style. That that's it.
Shooting down old, mothballed former Soviet aircraft...How would it do with a modern air force baring in at Mach 2 plus...?
deetjay1 1 month ago
@deetjay1 I think the platform is getting outdated on that part. Its a 30 year old AA system, I'm sure a new one is being researched to replace the old generation AA systems.
Igneous01 1 month ago
@deetjay1 I don't think speed is an issue. Mach 2 has being achieved decades ago if I am not wrong and aircraft speeds have been kept constant or went down to trade for other features. Besides, most cruise missiles are sub-sonic so having one of these things really make missile barrages or helicopter operations difficult.
initvesa 1 month ago
@initvesa
When the Russians found out about the "Blackbird", and a top speed that was classified, that must of been a nasty piece of news I would think...
deetjay1 1 month ago
Oh shit, in Soviet- Russia, they use MiG-21 and helicopters to example, how about those pilots ??? :(
easterndragon9x 2 months ago
Battlefield 3 ultimate bird-murderer device on tracks.
Badass
1990Heuw 2 months ago
@ZhEnYoK1986 Wowowow! Why the undeserved agression comrade?
Obet1979 4 months ago
apache no have chance
TATARSTAN59500 4 months ago
@TATARSTAN59500 пиздуй учить английский
MrRussiaTeam 4 months ago
@MrRussiaTeam da kurva !!!
TATARSTAN59500 4 months ago
tunguska pantsir s-400 russian simply the best
TATARSTAN59500 4 months ago
great AA system
foggy514 6 months ago
starcraft unit
Kilowat1000 6 months ago
how about in english ? :F i would like to know what he is talking about .. i like tunguska hehe :)
sandtr00per 6 months ago
0:40 translations = shits not complex just shoot em down
TheLightNight1 7 months ago
bye bye warthog
EternalCrappyKid 8 months ago
Neat! A turkey, duck, and deer hunter all in one.
camlpg 8 months ago
i heared, that Tor m2 much better than Pancir m1, and Tunguska m-2
ete0 9 months ago
"Кто к нам с мечём придёт тот от меча и погибнет"
MrStahyi 9 months ago
Awesome machine!
FishyMikeBravo 10 months ago
Damn...it can even shoot down a cruisemissile !!!
rolexity 10 months ago
You pop up and get 84 Rounds in your face, in 1 second!
roosterm16 10 months ago
It's kinda fucked up how they show our U.S Warthog ,then show there ANTI-Aircraft weapon. I wish i could translate.
70bignuts 10 months ago
@70bignuts
The guy is basically saying Tunguska was an answer to A-10 and other close attack air targets. It was supposed to travel with a group of tanks/infantry and protect them.
ArtypNk 9 months ago
What's with the theme to the movie Exodus at the beginning?
pvtslat85 11 months ago
"To buy the hardware or the production license, please contact".....
*picks up phone*
I SO WANT ONE!
Twistingnether 1 year ago
@Twistingnether
Can anyone buy these!?
selfatrophy 10 months ago
i fear those MG's much more than those missles
Umimugo 1 year ago
How much does this cost and why havent been and great export?
vq30detcomanche 1 year ago
@vq30detcomanche Thats why US became developing stealth technology in the mid 80s
vq30detcomanche 1 year ago
@vq30detcomanche Stealth technology is a little overrated, since an aircraft needs its own radar to function effectively, and the radio waves emitted by that radar are very, very easy to detect and follow to their source. The entire point of anti-radar missiles is to do just that.
So basically, a stealth aircraft is invisible to radar as long as it isn't using its own. Which just leads to people looking into alternate methods of detection. Like infrared emissions, which can't be hidden.
Ghostwind1 1 year ago 9
@Ghostwind1
Current stealth tech is optimised for radars working in the X-band ((Centimeter) most aircraft mounted radars). But can be detected with radars working in the L-band (metric).
Husar101 1 year ago
@Husar101
What do you mean the difference between X and L band is? Centimeters are a metric value, or do you mean that X works in centimeters and L works in meters and this changes the characteristics?
XiaoPow 1 year ago
@XiaoPow
radars working in the L-band (google it for explanation) can detect stealth fighters at a significant distance.
Husar101 1 year ago
@Ghostwind1 or even the doppler radars which Oz used to detect F117s during war games. shocked the yanks as they didn't realise they were being tracked from way out.
mrbishi1000 9 months ago
@Ghostwind1 stealth no changed any in low altitude 100 stealth its impossible
TATARSTAN59500 1 month ago
@Ghostwind1 B2 stealth bomber contradicts everything you just said.
peterpiperriperreter 1 week ago
@peterpiperriperreter Hardly. The B2 is a high-altitude strategic bomber. It mainly uses GPS navigation to find its targets, and this being a strategic bomber we're talking about, those targets are quite large. You don't use one to kill a tank column or a bunker, you use one to attack a city or an airfield. You don't need radar for that.
And it has to fly quite high to make sure its exhaust heat is hidden from ground AA. It's useless for tactical strikes.
Ghostwind1 1 week ago
@Ghostwind1 it has thermal camouflage, and it does leave heat signatures. But, the thermal camouflage distributes the heat in a way that it doesn't look like a plane on radar.
peterpiperriperreter 1 week ago
@peterpiperriperreter It doesn't matter if it doesn't look like a plane on radar, it will still be quite obvious that a thermal signature at that altitude and moving that fast is a B-2. It may not be enough for an SAM to get a reliable kill, but it would still be a sitting duck for an interceptor with a FLIR.
I will admit that stealth has much more use on a bomber than it does on a fighter. The B-2 is a very good bomber, but don't think it's anywhere near invisible.
Ghostwind1 1 week ago
i fucking hated these things in battlefield 2
unfairtrout 1 year ago
how much cost this?
KizaGB 1 year ago
@KizaGB
a "few" million :)
Husar101 1 year ago
@Husar101 Serbia need this...we call russia 1999 for s 300,whem we fight with NATO,but russia dont give us s 300...
KizaGB 1 year ago
@KizaGB
Serbia has sold it's arse to the enemy and no longer needs anything it seems
Husar101 1 year ago
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@Husar101 Serbia has sold it's arse to the enemy???Serbia is fighting with 19 NATO countries two mounts,while Russia remained silent, while Serbia has sold
...Small Serbia VS 19 big NATO countries,where is our sister Russia?Anywhere!Yeltsin drunk with Clinton
!
KizaGB 1 year ago
@Husar101 Serbia burning,Yeltsin drunk with Clinton, and fucking up...Serbia search to support S 300,Russia give us big dick...
KizaGB 1 year ago
@KizaGB
I agree with you partially because Yeltsin's government was similar to the Serbian government today.
Since you speak about Serbia asking for the S-300, can you tell me when exactly they asked for it?
And do you think that you can just receive the S-300 and can use it straight away?
It takes at least a year of preparations and training before you can be efficient with the system
Husar101 1 year ago
@Husar101 Serbia asked Russia 1998 and 1999 for S 300 and remont MIG 29,and purchase of new aircraft. In time before the bombing.Serbia needed the support of Russia and weapons because she was alone and has always been an ally of Russia.Serbia and Belarus are the only ally of Russia in Europe.
KizaGB 1 year ago
@Husar101 Serbia has no more power for the war ... no weapons, no support, Serbia is alone...we want to fight, but it is now impossible, we are too weak, too much pressure is on us ...Serbia is economically and militarily weak.Serbia should wait...
KizaGB 1 year ago
@Husar101 If you notice russia and USA are been selling they old equipment. Serbia border nations are buying f-16s and Mig 29s you need a long range AAA Defense system. S-300 can attack flying objects, ground and navy targets. a super defense system. Buy tanks and aircraps are useless against a good defense system. Can fight in network along with tunguskasan, Tors and Buks systems.
xtasytube 1 year ago
Are the missles infared guided as well as radar guided?
Pluntfarb 1 year ago
@Pluntfarb No. I believe they are radio command to line of sight only.
MegaLangosta 1 year ago
@MegaLangosta I think they are radar guided arent they? Thats why they have the radar? Im not really sure though haha
Pluntfarb 1 year ago
@MegaLangosta
Yes, they're radar guided with a max. range of 8-10km
There's an upgrade on offer that features an Electro-Optical Fire-Control.
Husar101 1 year ago
Huuuurrr DURRR RUSSIA STRONG!!! fucking goofballs.
Thewestcoastshooter 1 year ago
what's up with that sound effect at 4:50? LOL
redreaper2020 1 year ago
@ruspatriot100
de . wikipedia . org / w / index . php?title=Datei:Gepard_1a2_overview . jpg&filetimestamp=20080131185822
Und fällt auf, wie ähnlich sich Tunguska und Gepard sind oder macht dich dein Patiotismus blind für die Wirklichkeit????
couteau86 1 year ago
@ruspatriot100
Hier kannst mal schön vergleichen :-) ... Reihenfolge: ZSU-23, M42, Tunguska und Gepard ...
de . wikipedia . org / w / index . php?title=Datei:ZSU-23-4-Camp-Pendleton . jpg&filetimestamp=20051226134550
de . wikipedia . org / w / index . php?title=Datei:M42-Duster-latrun-1 . jpg&filetimestamp=20051113103736
de . wikipedia . org / w / index.php?title=Datei:Amd_2s6 . jpg&filetimestamp=20100511143010
couteau86 1 year ago
@ruspatriot100
... die Entwicklung des Gepard. Doch wenn man Ahnung von Technik hat, stellt man ziemlich schnell die technischen Unterschiede fest.
Daher komm ic h zu der Lösung, das du kein technisches Wissen hast, sondern, wie dein Username schon sagt, nur patriotischen Schwachsinn quatscht, um dich toll zu fühlen :-)
couteau86 1 year ago
@ruspatriot100
... die automatisch sind, SEITLICH am Turm montiert und mittig am Turm die ganze Sensorig und Radar, um unabhänig operieren zu können. Damit war der Gepard der Erste seiner Art. Und, ei der Daus, ein paar Jahre später haben die Russen einen Flakpanzer eingeführt, der exakt die kleiche technische Auslegung wie der Gepard hatte. Seltsam oder??? ;-)
Und das mit dem M42 ist anders zu verstehen. Deutschland wollte auch einen Flakpanzer, nachdem der M42 eingeführt wurde. Daher ...
couteau86 1 year ago
Thewestcoastshooter - YOU are scum bag. You probably think about SA-2 missiles system used in Vietnam , That thing is innacurate.
Yugoslavia did not have anything newer I think newest was 1970's made.
and F-117 pieces are in Belgrade museum of aviation.
I will tell you something now Biggest misstake CCCP made is to go down without taking USA with it. CCCP should have destroyed USA in 1989.
aviomaster 1 year ago
Fuck...crazy russians....this thing scares me.
Obet1979 1 year ago 31
@Obet1979
fuck itself
666Russiansoldier666 1 year ago
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@Obet1979
fuck itself
666Russiansoldier666 1 year ago
@Obet1979 Ссышь, сучёнок пиндосовский?
es1841 8 months ago
Pronto llegaran los primeros 36 de estos equipos a Venezuela. Excelenteªªª
Rafaelo700 1 year ago
I love this stuff ... Viva mother Russia
batrezz 1 year ago
2nd Tunguska-M1 video added with extra footage and English commentary. See Video Response link below
Husar101 1 year ago
looks like a 1980s ATARI keyboard in that M1
investornator 1 year ago
LOL the graphics at 1:00 are from the german Gepard
the russian dumbasses dont have own graphic at least...such a stupid country in each aspect
xDuffman3000x 1 year ago
2:20 LOLLLLL
Evangelion271 1 year ago
8 missiles means 8 superhornets, 2000 rounds = 24 seconds/4 seconds = 6 apaches.
enought for a day fight. TUNGUSKA means AMERICA ! u can bully everybody but dont mess up with RUSSIA.
takajong 1 year ago
@takajong 8 SAM missiles getting 8 hits?!! historically, Russian systems manage less than a 10% hit rate... even Yugoslavia, which had a bang up to date air defense system had very little success against a NATO force. No one plans to invade or mess with Russia, there is no need, vodka and corruption are doing the job just fine.
Thewestcoastshooter 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter
You've got everything mixed up. It was NATO's bombing that had poor accuracy.
Yugoslavia had a largely 1970's with some 1980's level technology but managed to come out with relatively light military losses.
Husar101 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter
Wau mister , you got something wrong.From '60's, coming russian SAM weapon that bring down F 117, "nighthawk" that supposed to be invinsible BTW, in very same Yugoslavia that you mention and for sure that is not the "up the date air defense system.That old school SAMs combined with new school S-400 give supremacy in air for Russia, like it or not.They can bring down anything.The real question is Can you bring down them ? If you wait for vodka&corruption...you are late...
ingpetkovic 1 year ago
it wasnt a sam missle that brought down a f117 it was AAA fire (massed fire at that)
kduwe1 1 year ago
@kduwe1 it was S125 Neva (Pechora)
nedeljko031 1 year ago
@ingpetkovic
it was AAA that brought down the 117 not a missle
kduwe1 1 year ago
@kduwe1
That's not what's important. What's important is that it was detected on radar, and that they could locate it.
XiaoPow 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter
You are joking right? Yugoslavia only had 60's-70's stuff. The only modern assets were Igla Manpads. Even today they operate legacy S-125, Kub-M, Strela-1 and Strela 10.
Also the NATO operated at high altitudes under extensive use of jamming devices. Under such circumstances it's a wonder that the Yugos managed to keep their Air Defense largely intact.
brocalfur 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter
Russia is in far better shape that most of the world after the economic collapse. Its looking better than California.
zawlinmoe 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter man your just soooo right !
xDuffman3000x 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter Serbia had Kub M1 and Pechora S125 Neva....and Bofors 40mm AA Guns and locally build 3x20mm BOV3.....what of that is "UP TO DATE" -.-.... Try again....
nedeljko031 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter ok eat your burgers and be well!
:-)
PoseidonGRE 1 year ago
@PoseidonGRE Aint nobody talking to you ...greasy greek scumbag. Go suck a Turks cock.
Thewestcoastshooter 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter at the moment you are sucking it!
PoseidonGRE 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter and keep eating your burger!
:-)
PoseidonGRE 1 year ago
@PoseidonGRE Greece? Who? Never heard of them... irrelevant country full of nobodys. At least the Russians i was arguing with are from somewhere that matters.
Thewestcoastshooter 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter be careful!you might choke from your burger!
PoseidonGRE 1 year ago
@PoseidonGRE Careful you might be from a place that is strategically insignificant.
Thewestcoastshooter 1 year ago
@Thewestcoastshooter i don't worry about that.So many burgers don't let you know my "place".No space in the brain:-)
PoseidonGRE 1 year ago
잘 보았습니다. 감사
SuperTaeyoung 1 year ago
good russia came with new victims, poor A-10 was hungry....
TigerMeet2142 1 year ago
@TigerMeet2142
A-10 would get raped by Russian anti-air and air power. dumbass
bittemeinrammstein 1 year ago
@bittemeinrammstein
kduwe1 1 year ago
guns firing 5000 rounds per minute. total amunition 2000 rounds, and 8 rockets. 24 seconds and you out of ammo
tankist300 1 year ago
Who ever is going to be on the receiving end of this, is going to have a real bad day. Its a good thing that Indian army also has these.
baramit 1 year ago
Man, this in an impressive platform. The ZSU-23-4 was also formidable, but this seems to be a good replacement.
HankTuds 1 year ago
ВОТ ЭТО ТЕМА!!!БОЙТЕСЬ И ЗАВИДУЙТЕ!!!))))))
TheLexa34 1 year ago 2
ich hab immer gedacht, der Tunguska wär 4 läufig...
Truckosaurus15 1 year ago
@couteau86 Das einzig ähnliche an beiden Panzern ist, dass sie die Kanonen an den Seiten haben und den Radar hinten bzw. oben auf dem Turm. Tunguska's verfügen über Raketen, Gepards nicht. Ich wette, dass der Nachfolger des Gepards Raketen besitzen wird, aber das sieht dann einfach nur nach einer Kopie aus. In 2 Jahren sollen die Gepards ausgemustert werden, angäblich soll der es durch Roland 2 ersätzt werden.
SovjetPhoenix 1 year ago
@SovjetPhoenix
Ich finde deine Auslegung der Sachen recht lustig ... DU hattest zumindest festgestellt, das sie sich sehr ähnlich sehen. Oder mit anderen Worten und was ich die ganze Zeit schon sage, die Russen hatten, natürlich auf ihrer Technik bassierent, das Konzept und Design des Gepard übernommen. Und wie gesagt, das ist eigentlich ein allgemein bekannter Fakt ...
couteau86 1 year ago
@ SovjetPhoenix und wie der Gepard Raketen hat! An der rechten Seite an der Laufaufhängung werden bei der weiterentwickelten Version zwei AA-Raketen angebracht!
Truckosaurus15 1 year ago
@Truckosaurus15 Ja aber auch nur in der erweiterten Version, bei einem Tunguska ist es Standart! Man könnte Tunguskas auch modernisieren & mit noch mehr Raketen ausstatten.
SovjetPhoenix 1 year ago
The US copy a lot of Germany secret weapons they stole from them.How do you think US got to the moon.
211Alucard 1 year ago
5000 sot to minut
17dumitru 1 year ago
Russian scientist should mix the cannon with Su-35.
It will be a very perfect weapon.
LongHornist 2 years ago
It ain't a copy of anything from the deutchbags. The russians are masters at AAA.
MegaLangosta 2 years ago 36
@MegaLangosta fucking true
nomad18psycho 1 year ago
@MegaLangosta no...we're not in the year 1945 fool....russia tech is retarted if you compare it with germanys weapons or us weapons....you can compare it with every country...tunguska is very old and not on the actually stae of modern tech....its from the 70s. how can they be master ?!?!?! they are nothing against each nation on the world
xDuffman3000x 1 year ago
@MegaLangosta no dude ..you eat shit...
it is a very clear copy ! the first was the ghepard ! the only advantages tunguska has,it has rockets ...but the recent developments upgraded the gepard,including rockets...so the ghepard is much better than the tunguska ...
acvaticlifE 10 months ago
@acvaticlifE This is a fairdinkum request - just exactly how is it better? and how do you know that? cause they both look pretty devastating.
mrbishi1000 9 months ago
@mrbishi1000
he doesn't.
The Gepard can be upgraded with Stinger missiles (it's not standard equipment) which have shorter range than the Tunguska missiles. The Tunguska can be upgraded by using components from the Pantsir-S1 (SA-22)
Husar101 9 months ago
@mrbishi1000 yes but germans always choosed quality over quantity :)
acvaticlifE 9 months ago
@acvaticlifE I gotta agree
mrbishi1000 9 months ago
@acvaticlifE
German it's grate power in all times! We respect Germans!
ete0 9 months ago
@ete0 in all times? ... what about 1943-1945?
AlexeySamara 8 months ago
@AlexeySamara Ну а ты думаешь, они были слабы в это время?
ete0 8 months ago
@acvaticlifE Well during the WW2 they invested a lot of resources in future technologies which doesn't worked properly. Like V2 Rockets and Jet-planes. They maybe were high tech but not really good quality cause you always need time to test new technologies. In general it was not really smart. And if you look at German tanks like Panther, Tiger, Elephant, King-tiger they all had heavy constriction and engine problems. How much of them were lost only cause of weak engine?!
Anderas777 7 months ago
@MegaLangosta that's true, They were the first Country to produce SAM's
Umimugo 10 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The Tunguska M1 is only a copy of the design and invasions from the German FlakPz Gepard ...
couteau86 2 years ago
let's say Tunguska was influenced by the latter. With the missile system it's head and shoulders over the gepard.
brocalfur 2 years ago
Nevertheless the idea comes from the German and the Russians copy it. Even if they have developed it further ... it changes nothing on this fact ;-)
couteau86 2 years ago
The Tunguska is replacement for the ZSU-23-4...get your facts straight.
Husar101 2 years ago
If it is so ... than you also can say, that the FlakPz Gepard replacement for the 3,7 cm Flak 43 L/60 "Ostwind" or the Flakpanzer IV (2 cm) auf Fgst. Pz.Kmpfw. IV "Wirbelwind" ...
It's a official fact, that the Russians copy the basicdesign from the FlakPz Gepard.
couteau86 2 years ago
Früher oder später hätte Russland eh einen Flak Panzer entwickelt. Nur weil Deutschland als erstes Land so einen Flak Panzer hatte, heißt es nicht dass alle anderen Länder kopieren. Es war eine gute Idee Flak Panzer zu bauen, aber es war von anfang an klar, dass andere Länder ihre eigenen Flak Panzer später bauen würden. Tunguska wäre erst dann eine Kopie, wenn sie das know-how vom Gepard verwendet hätten, aber das machten sie ja nicht.
SovjetPhoenix 1 year ago
@SovjetPhoenix
Das ist Heut zu Tage Allegemein bekannt, fas die Ruussen den Gepard kopiert haben. Das ist genau so Allgemein bekannt, wie das die Deutschen die schräge Panzerung des T-34 übernammen haben ...
couteau86 1 year ago
Wie Husar101 schon sagte, Tunguska ist ein Nachfolger des ZSU-23-4 Flak Panzers, der früher als der Gepard gebaut wurde. Das heißt, dass weder das Design, noch die Funktion vom Gepard kopiert wurden. Es wurde nur russisches Know how verwendet, so wie bei allen Panzern aus russischer Produktion.
SovjetPhoenix 1 year ago
@SovjetPhoenix
Dann solltest du mal den Tunguska mit dem ZSU-23-4 und dem Gepard vergleichen. Spätestens dann fällt auf, das der Tunguska dem Gepard ähnlicher ist, als dem ZUS-23-4 ...
couteau86 1 year ago
@couteau86 Die deutschen sind doch nur neidisch das russen besseren waffen haben, ein idiot sagt das tunguska eine kopie von gepard ist anderen depen sagen das ak47 eine kopie von sg44 ist,sag mir das su35 eine kopie von tornado ist oder das t90 eine kopie von leopard2 ist und ich kriege lachanfall.
ruspatriot100 1 year ago
@ruspatriot100
Öhm, sorry für dich, aber die Russen haben beim Tunguska das Konzept des Geparden übernommen, genau wie das AK47 eine Nachbildung des Funktionskonzeptes des SG44 ist. Solltest dich mal etwas informieren und nicht nur mit solchen billigen Argumentationen wie "ihr seid neidisch" kommen. Einfach grund ist, dass das einfache technische Daten sind. Die russischen Ingenieure geben es sogr zu, das es genau so ist ... Und was soll der Scheiß mit dem T-90???
couteau86 1 year ago
@couteau86 Tunguska ist nachfolger von zsu-23schilka und keine kopie von gepard wen wir über kopie reden dann muss du amerikaner fragen und die werden sagen das die deutschen gepard auf basis des m42 duster gebaut haben da der duster 1956 gebaut wurde und die deutschen den gepard erst 1965 kannst du sehen wer beim wem abgekukt hat auserdem war der duster bei den deutschen im eisatz und die hatten viel zeit zu studieren um später nachzubauen, ein kaspar denkt das er besser ist als der andere.
ruspatriot100 1 year ago
@couteau86 PS bevor du schwachsinn schreibst würde ich dir emfehlen auf wiki zu gehen dann kannst du uns lachanfall ersparen.
ruspatriot100 1 year ago
@ruspatriot100
Junge, guck dir mal die technische Auslegungen der Maschinen an. Natürlich ist der Tunguska der offiziele Nachfolger des ZSU-23. Ändert aber nix dran, das die komplete technische Auslegung des Tunguska vom Gepard kopiert wurde. Vergleich mal, ZSU-23 und auch der M42 "Duster" waren Panzerfahrgestelle mit einem Turm, in dem, mittig, eine mehrfach Flak-Kanone eingebaut wurde, wie es schon im WW2 gemacht wurde. Beim Gepard jedoch wurden 2 rückstoßfreie Hochleistungskononen ...
couteau86 1 year ago
@SovjetPhoenix
Gewöhn dir mal an, mir direkt zu antworten.
Und du sagst es, das gesamte Grundkonzept ist eine Kopie des Gepard. Festgestellt hast du es ja schon, aber deine Worte beweisen, das du es nicht akzeptieren kannst. Schade, das deine Liebe zu Russland dir dein logisches Urteil nimmt ...
Und nur so nebenbei, der Gepard besitzt an der rechten Turmseite einen Zweifachstarter für FIM-92 "Stinger".
couteau86 1 year ago
@couteau86 Ist nicht einfach direkt zu antworten, wenn Youtube ständig spinnt (man sieht nicht die neuesten Comments)
Wo habe ich denn zugestimmt, dass der Tunguska Panzer eine Kopie ist? Ich habe nur die Ähnlichkeiten genannt, aber nie gemeint, dass Tunguska eine Kopie ist. Der Nachfolger des Gepards wird entweder eine Kopie des Tunguska Panzers oder sie stellen sowas wie das russiche Luftabwehrsystem Panzir-S ein.
SovjetPhoenix 1 year ago
@Husar101 and the only decent replacement for, shilka's were fucking solid steel.
DrPracticleHat 1 year ago
Ha-ha! Gepard is copy of Tunguska!
ASGHDR 2 years ago
Boy, the Gepard is older as the Tunguska. So how can he be a copie???
Boy, that the basicconception from the tunguska is a copy of the Gepard ... thats a official fact ...
couteau86 2 years ago
SO WHAT! It is better than the Gepard, and that is all that counts. Oh yeah, your claim is stupid and based on personal opinion, rather than fact!
tropickman 2 years ago
Better??? Who says that??? Only YOUR personal opinion!!!
And the fact is that the Russians coppy the German idea. Whether they make it better or worse ... that is a other question ...
couteau86 2 years ago
India has around 200 of these...
Very effective weapon systems...
Jai Hind!!!
duker1231 2 years ago
Ah ha thanks dude.. Its "Man's Too Strong"
OpticalSnare 2 years ago
Arrrgh what music is playing at 1:00 i swear ive heard it before.
OpticalSnare 2 years ago
Dire Straits
safiiri 2 years ago
@OpticalSnare That's 'The Man's too Strong' by Dire Straits. I was instantly thrown back to my Childhood as soon as I heard that, really strange feeling.
eldudio 10 months ago
they should put that gun on the M1 tunguska on their Su-25, its better than the GAU-8. i mean just look at that volume of fire it produces, its insane.
Ome99 2 years ago 3
i agree, because russian aircraft usually use a single barrel cannon, if it start to use the gun used in tunguska it would have more chance to hit multiple targets near each other too.
in2882 2 years ago 2
tunguska M1, the best and most symbolic self propelled AA (although shilka could be argued to be the most symbolic)
Ome99 2 years ago
I take it back, the russians turned out to have an even better self-propelled AA than this awesome one, its called Pantsir-S1, and it can take out all sealth aircraft, with also a better range.
Ome99 2 years ago 2
my country needs these kind of weapon!!!!
in2882 2 years ago 2
Brasil too!
5ecapotao 2 years ago
Tunguska is designed to destroy small low flying targets even such as small missiles automatically. It can work in such mode that it just auto shots everything that flies. And btw it can shoot as it moves, it dons't need to stop.
Fires 5000 rounds per minute, it's missile flies with 3xsuppersonic speed.
Hashishtani 2 years ago
As very short translation, this thing can do everything automated, and even fight ground forces. It can capture target from 18km range and automatically follow the target until it in fire range. It can fire at 10 km range using missiles and at 4km range using gun.
The crew there is mostly to control what it does, automatics there can even aim and shot suddenly appeared Aircraft cowboy style. That that's it.
Hashishtani 2 years ago
the guns are sick
FlattusMaximusD 2 years ago
We also NEED THIS!!!
serbiansaber1 2 years ago 12
i want to buy this weapon. please russia sell it to mee.
djkadirtube 2 years ago
No problem!!!! 100 000 000 $ (cash)
Pavel1986able 2 years ago 2
Sell it to me please.. 100 million dollars is too high for this weapon. we can buy lots of truck and aa guns with this amount.
djkadirtube 2 years ago
For our iranian friends we can offer a special discount)))
But we take only cash^_-
Pavel1986able 2 years ago
wonderful weapon
evereverman 2 years ago 2
nice..
one88syah 2 years ago
wow. thx for this video.
this firepower is unbelieveable.
bumbumbudi 2 years ago
subtitles would be nice
Naqib777 3 years ago 4
damn good video, thanks.
vtkrey 3 years ago 2