TRAIN CRASH - Arriva Trains Wales 175002 Crashes with Lorry 19/12/2011

[davidsingle500]

nasty that was in a rail maggazine

[robmasterman]

@davidsingle500 Not that I'm aware of, it had little coverage...Thanks for watching....Bob

[ervans]

Great catch Bob

[robmasterman]

@ervans Thanks Ervan....Much appreciated....Bob

[Cazkumali]

Is 002 going 2 be repaired 

[robmasterman]

@Cazkumali I've not heard anything of it since the incident, so I'm afraid I can't give you an answer...Bob

[TheMinime9100]

I think it was the Truck Drivers fault for not stopping at a level crossing

[robmasterman]

@TheMinime9100 It would appear so although I've not heard the official outcome as yet...Bob

[ADMIRALSCORNER]

Oh Gosh what a terrible thing to have happened. Full marks Bob for recording the result so well.

[robmasterman]

@ADMIRALSCORNER Thanks Mike, not the most pleasant of things to film I must say, but thankfully few casualties.....Bob

[robmasterman]

@56312Artemis Something to remember for the future...Bob

[robmasterman]

I don't know Keith, the damage was mainly to the fron end of the leading vehicle, so worth repairing I suppose....Bob

[MonochromeLoco]

Is this likely to be the end of Coradia #2 now Bob....Keith

[ACTractionLTD]

That brake down train is ex Wigan Springs Branch :D

[robmasterman]

@ACTractionLTD Thanks for the information I wasn't aware of that.....Bob

[pwalpar]

Thanks for sharing this excellent coverage of A tragic incident.. Thanks goodness no fatal injuries,

[robmasterman]

@pwalpar It's never a pleasant thing to see Walter, but it's important to record it....Thanks again....Bob

[WoelkerVideo]

Excellent report Bob.

This is a terrible accident. How far is the distance to your city?

[robmasterman]

@WoelkerVideo This is about 25 miles from my home Gunter, this train would have passed my house about 45 minutes from this location....Bob

[argenvia]

Hi bob, but unfortunately it is these truck drivers, also here in Argentina it is the same, it would have to put them in jail and withdraw the license, do not realize the disaster that could have caused, I see the took cheap,,,, what happened to the roof of the diesel unit?

greeting

gus

[robmasterman]

@argenvia Nice to hear from you again Gus, part of the roof was damaged when the train hit the lorry which was loaded with bales of hay on the crossing.....Bob

[apachenoise]

An excellent piece of reportage. Thank you for sharing.

[robmasterman]

@apachenoise Thank you for watching, and leaving such kind comments....Bob

[ay76]

Bloody hell!! What must of gone through the train driver's mind when he saw the lorry???

[robmasterman]

@ay76 Hard to imagine Iain, he had little time to react as he is on a sharp bend when approaching at 50-60mph.....Thanks to his fast reactions and the good brakes on these 175 units that there were no further injuries especially to the driver....Bob

[ay76]

@robmasterman Just sends shivvers down my back thinking about it. Thankfully no one was killed. Many thanks for recording this, Cheers.

[johnwood57]

Wow Bob,that was brilliant,glad everybody is ok,done well on the hits too.........John

[robmasterman]

@johnwood57 Thanks John, always a bit weary of filming this sort of thing, but I'm glad I did now, as it allows many people to see it....Bob

[trainfart]

It really looks not so good!

[robmasterman]

@trainfart It' is always sad to see an accident on the Railways, but thankfully there were only a few injuries and no fatalities....Bob

[MG06ZT]

Good footage and thankfully rare. Lucky no-one got killed. Great shots.

[robmasterman]

@MG06ZT Thanks Keith, it's thanks to the great engineering in these newer trains, that impact like this don't cause more injuries and fatalities.....Bob

[eurodestination]

Nice bit of reportage Bob, better than anything I saw on TV, I had half a mind to go down there myself but got busy doing something else. Great vantage point you had - how did you get there?

[robmasterman]

@eurodestination That's kind of you Gary, the road from the A40 to and from the crossing was heavily guarded by the police. I was stood on the A40 bridge over the railway, unfortunately it meant that most of the footage was shot at full zoom. I used an anti-shake filter, as it was shot without a tripod, but this resulted in smooth images but shakey titles...can't have it all I suppose.....Regards...Bob

[eurodestination]

@robmasterman I heard today the lights along that whole stretch were out including that crossing, which then wasn't staffed or controlled by anyone - which I think is an accident waiting to happen, and worthy of some direct questions.

[robmasterman]

@eurodestination If you have a look at an upload of a passenger on the train Gary (mikbac) then it clearly shows the crossing lights working, as did the TV reports on the day...so someone appears to be feeding incorrect information.....Bob

[eurodestination]

@robmasterman It'll all come out I'm sure - but what is certain is that I would never stop across a rail line, as I always get nervous crossing them

[TimHall42]

I hope the lorry driver is dealt with severely. It's partly luck and partly a testament to the design and strength of the rolling stock involved that there weren't many deaths and serious injuries.

[kenbrowne1947]

Having just fully read the other comments Bob, it seems the lorry driver was very careless and lucky not to be injured himself and cause fatalities to others whilst attempting to blame the lights. Thanks once again. Ken

[robmasterman]

@kenbrowne1947 He's a very lucky man Ken, there could well have been a fatality....Bob

[PhilbruProduction]

Very good reporting, Bob, as always!

Philippe

[robmasterman]

@PhilbruProduction Thank you...Diolch yn fawr Philippe....Bob

[NN2Blue]

Fair play, There seems to be a special breed of agricultural worker out west given that this is the second incident like this in recent times. It's not as if the tracks are teeming with trains!!

Excellent record Bob, though I did find the wobbly titles a bit unsettling! LOL! Mike

[robmasterman]

@NN2Blue Very true Mike, it will be interesting to see what happens to him....The wobbly titles are the result of using a new anti-shake filter that YouTube provides...useful when you done some habd held filming, but this was the first time I've used it with titles, so ended up with wobbling, badly spelt titles.....I will know what to do next time....Bob

[acw71000]

Spot on piece of reporting Bob. Thank goodness nobody was killed and lets hope the driver of the lorry has the book thrown at him

[robmasterman]

@acw71000 Thanks Austin, the lorry driver was arrested soon after the incedent but has subsequently been released on bail...he was reported as having said the lihjts were not working on the crossing, yet footage taken at the scene by one of the passengers, clearly shows they were....He also jumped from the lorry before the impact....Bob

[daviescurly78]

Hi Bob I passed through Whitland on Monday morning not long after it had happened it was a real mess thank god no one was seriously injured, I was driving home to Pembrokeshire today on the the m4 and saw the train on the back of two low loaders i think we were around the Cardiff area at the time.

[robmasterman]

@daviescurly78 It was indeed a miracle that there were so few injuries, and no doubt due to the excellent design properties of these newer trains...The unit was sent up North but I don't know if it will be repaired......Many thanks for your observations....Bob

[pigsrbest]

Blimey - was lucky unit was not derailed,presumably the lorry driver was unhurt ! ! !

[robmasterman]

@pigsrbest It's part of the engineering design that go in to modern trains, to keep them upright in the event of a derailment....and this clearly as in this case has saved many injuries.....The lorry driver had left his lorry before the impact....Bob

[Phil6219]

great stuff, nice to catch something a bit different eh Bob?

[robmasterman]

@Phil6219 Thanks Phil, I don't want to see too many of these incedents...but worth recording I feel....Bob

[modemeyes]

Thanks Bob...Was the driver OK?.............Mike

[robmasterman]

@modemeyes Miraculously the driver was not injured, the ticket collector suffered minir injuries....incredible Mike when you look at the damage to the unit....Bob

[intercity112255]

What happened to the driver of the class 175?

[robmasterman]

@intercity112255 As far as I know the driver was unhurt, the ticket collecter suffered minor injuries....Bob

[P90DLS]

On the ball as usual Bob great clip

[robmasterman]

@P90DLS Thanks very much...your comments are greatly appreciated....Bob

[littlegalah]

Bob have a look at your tag words on the video, because with the right tags this will go viral been a train accident

[robmasterman]

@littlegalah Thanks Alan, I've changed it to see what happens...Bob

[poisonarrowfrog100]

Great your film was beter than the national news!!

[robmasterman]

@poisonarrowfrog100 I don't think so, but thank you for such kind comments....Bob

[cuzinitr]

Nice work Bob! At least no one was killed. Sure would have been scarry to be the train driver. Catch you later bud! Rich

[penninefilms]

The trains must have hit that lorry at some speed as its front end has really bee smash in.

[1adamstephen]

fantastic video nice to see what happened on video read about this yesterday morning in the metro while going up to Cardiff

Adam

[robmasterman]

@1adamstephen Thanks Adam, it's good to record these incedents, but upsetting to watch....Bob

[canvids1]

a great video Bob of the nasty crash

[robmasterman]

@canvids1 Thanks Wayne, thank goodness there were no fatalities....Bob

[Sa59vely]

Truck gave train hay to eat...

[robmasterman]

@Sa59vely One way of looking at it....Bob

[itfcsam]

Nice catch. Unfortunate situation though. 5*

[robmasterman]

@itfcsam Thanks Sam, only a few injuries thank goodness....Bob

[Bevoin1970]

Brilliant capture Bob, Im also wondering how on earth such a thing happens in the first place.

And to think that breakdown train has come from Bescot, which is a 10 min walk for me from my place. Fancy that eh.... Im so nosey I wanted more and more footage... ha ha

[robmasterman]

@Bevoin1970 Thanks Paul, unfortunately the public was not allowed any nearer than I was, the road both sides of the incedent were blocked off by the Poilce. The Bescot Brake down unit was attending an incident down Exeter way a few weeks ago....it's a crazy world......Bob

[Bevoin1970]

@robmasterman Blimey! sure is... Thanks Bob, fascinating topic.

[mvjedforest]

Nearly every day, I see cars and lorries drive past red traffic lights because the drivers think that they can get through before anything comes the other way, and I suspect the same attitude applies to level crossings. The survivors of crossing "accidents" usually have some excuse like lights not working or brake failure (as if the independent brake systems all failed at once!). Anyway, Bob, that was a very interesting and topical newsreel. Was that the RAIB also videoing the scene?...Mervyn

[robmasterman]

@mvjedforest It's always an upsetting sight to see Mervyn, and these incedents are nearly always down to human error. The lorry driver was reported as having said the crossing lights were not working, yet they were clearly seen working during a BBC Report that evening. As far as the other camera man is concerned, I don't know who he was representing....if it was the RAIB, then he would have been trackside I would have thought.....Bob

[littlegalah]

Cool that you got this. Did you know that all trains in crashs have skid marks

One BIG skid mark on the drivers seat.

[robmasterman]

@littlegalah You're probably right there Alan, this driver was one lucky person....Bob

[TheMichaelWilcock]

Sounds like Rowland was there too !

I'm off for the 70s ; when they eventually leave the docks..who knows. I don't think I;ll stand around too long. It's bloomin windy on Newport sation and it's no go in the docks

Good newsreel

Mike

Mike

[robmasterman]

@TheMichaelWilcock He was indeed Mike, though you might have been there as well.....good luck at Newport, I look forward to seeing what you capture....Bob

[alexamltd]

Looks like a bad collision, do you know what caused it?

[robmasterman]

@alexamltd The lorry driver was crossing the railway with a trailer fully loaded with hay, he is reported to have said that the crossing lights were not working. However on TV reports on the day they were clearly working.....investigations continue....Bob

[alexamltd]

@robmasterman wow...Really wierd, thanks for the info :D

[Rocketboy1950]

Alaways good to read that there were no serious injuries. These self propelled "trains" do really badly in collisions. We have had some horror crashes with them in Australia.

[robmasterman]

@Rocketboy1950 Like modern cars, these newer trains are built to collapse on impact, and they are also designed to stay upright on collisions, so thankfully these issues proved invaluable in this case with realatively few injuries in such a major impact....Bob

[Rocketboy1950]

@robmasterman No such luck here Bob. We have had two roll overs. One hit a car and finished up in a ditch, The other hit a truck, seriously and permanently injuring the train driver. My mate travelling in the cab lost his leg and two in the car were killed. One was the train drivers mother and the other was an off duty train driver. These death traps are speed restricted or totally banned on a lot of our country network that only has passive crossing protection.

[robmasterman]

@Rocketboy1950 That's a terrible series of events, and thank goodness such things are relatively rare....Thanks for sharing such sobering matters, that certainly make you aware of how easily things can go wrong....Bob

[caerphillycastle]

I wondered if you would capture this. Had thought about calling you to ask if you had anymore details. What a mess.

[robmasterman]

@caerphillycastle Thanks Ger, it''s never a good thing to see, but as there were no fatalities, I decided to go down there and capture it...Bob

[EMuksteam]

Brilliant video Bob,it's not the sort of incident you want to see near Christmas especially when people get injuried.(C)

[robmasterman]

@EMuksteam Very true C, injuries were relatively low, thanks to the design of these 175 units, imagine had it been one of the older ones....Bob

[MonochromeLoco]

I had a feeling that you would post this Bob. Far from pleasent, but a great capture and record of the incident....Keith

[robmasterman]

@MonochromeLoco Thanks Keith, I was in two minds about capturing it, but decided it was worth showing it to a wider audience....Bob

[GreatWestern175]

I heard about this on the radio whilst at work and later saw it on BBC news, and thought 'will he be out there to get it?' and there you did. Incidents like this have really not gone down in numbers the last few years either by carelessness or deliberation.

[robmasterman]

@GreatWestern175 This is the second such incident at this crossing in recent years Ryan, so it will be interesting to see what action is taken....Bob

[nathanandrews100]

Its good no one was killed

[robmasterman]

@nathanandrews100 It certainly is Nathan, Thanks for watching....Bob

[nirtrainman]

Its good no one was killed

[robmasterman]

@nirtrainman I believe that the design of these modern units went a long way to prevent a worse outcome.......Bob

[JPMiller14]

Excellent Bob. A brilliant effort to go out and get some footage here. AAAAA+++++

[robmasterman]

@JPMiller14 Thanks Justin, an amazing sight to see...Bob

[balmesh]

So you did get down there! Very good coverage anyway - shame there wasn't much actually moving. Any idea when it'll all be shifted by? . . . . . Alan

[robmasterman]

@balmesh Didn't have much time Alan, went to Llanelli first....only wished I could have captured the move of the unit back to Whitland later in the day. I haven't had any feed back since I came home...Bob

[TheStephengthompson]

Excellent work Bob, great to see that there are still a crane available that can be used from the rails with no overhead wires about. Far cry from Dads day of the 75 ton Cowan Sheldon steam breakdown cranes . Regards Steve

[robmasterman]

@TheStephengthompson Thanks Steve, the brake down unit had to travel down from Bescot. There was an overhead cable beyond the crane, but it had been isolated for safety reasons. Trains and lorries these days are too light for a 75 ton crane to be called.....Bob

[HSTcallum]

what do you think will be the fate of 175002?

[MAGLEVTGV99]

@HSTcallum personally i like 175's so i hope they can save it

[Buttons0603]

@HSTcallum It looks in a bad way, some shots it looks like the cab has COME OFF. If the cab has come off from the rest of the unit it will probs go for scrap, otherwise it should be repaired but it will take a long time.

[robmasterman]

@HSTcallum It has been brought to Whitland this afternoon, to be further assessed but it's fate is unknow as yet...Bob

[488scooby]

great footage bob ,i missed this on the news yesterday, i heard my missus say the lights wernt working,is that correct or not.

[robmasterman]

@488scooby Thanks for your comments...the lights were seen working during TV reports yesterday....Bob

[wooltman]

I hope everybody was ok,Bob.

[robmasterman]

@wooltman Thankfully there were no life threatenning injuries reported Chris....Bob

[AndreiTupolev]

On the spot reportage! Crikey, it's made a mess of the cab.

[robmasterman]

@AndreiTupolev Thanks Andrei, I couldn't get closer, but hopefully this gives an idea of the incident...Bob

[MegaCullie]

nice capture bob like you say it could of been alot worst lucky no one were killed .........cheers kev

[robmasterman]

@MegaCullie Thanks Kev, and Amen to that....Bob

[1madaboutguitar]

Good footage. Train cant have been going fast

[robmasterman]

@1madaboutguitar It was probably going at about 50mph just before the crash....Bob

[1madaboutguitar]

@robmasterman OK, maybe im getting this all wrong. I assumed the lorry was on the crossing behind.

[robmasterman]

@1madaboutguitar The lorry and a trailer carrying bales of hay were on the crossing behind the unit, and the lorry was pushed along the track to its current position on impact....Bob

[EWS60500]

The lorry might be intimidating on the road but it aint no match for a train. Lucky that wasn't earlier because 6B13 would have possibly dragged that down the line about half a mile. I think that the 175 looks more damaged than it actually is, because that cab is the crumple zone so its designed crumple on impact, its only a fiberglass cab after all, probably a class 70 would look similar if it was involved in a accident, maybe not the whole cab because they are a little higher than 175's.

[robmasterman]

@EWS60500 Spot on Llion, had this been the up Fishguard Boat train and one of the older 150's there would have been more injuries....Bob

[EWS60500]

@robmasterman OH yes, I think the 150 would have fared a lot worse, still its not nice to see any train in that state.

[robmasterman]

@EWS60500 Indeed Llion...Thanks...Bob

[Tcostello105]

Oh that does not look to good, very nice video of the incident though. Glad no one was hurt, looked pretty bad to me.