I am getting a tapwave, until now, i did not know how powerful, it is, i found games on amazon, etc, so i will get some, its easier to get games for this, then the gizmondo.
Im waiting for a portable system that is easy to get and affordable and emulate ps2 games, it's not that hard to build something powerful enough to do it considoring ps2 came out in 1999
@Airking11 i think there is a portable system for ps2 not sure though,but there is one for ps1 the first playstation,i would suggest look on amazon or ebay my best guess, and or just look on the computer and type ps2 portable handheld system
I have a Zodiac 2 (beside my HTC HD2, Ipod Touch 4g) and it still makes me sad that Tapwave wasn't able to get these things of the ground. The concept is amazing and the controls are still the best I ever played a game with.
Man, this thing is AWESOME! I currently have a PalmOne Tungsten T5 that I have been using for playing games, but the control sucks, what with the 5-way navigation and all. Seeing this makes me wanna go and get one to replace my T5, especially seeing that you can play Duke Nukem on it. There's a site with apps for playing the original Duke 3D and Doom (look up ZDoomZ), and trying it out, it looked really promising, and since the Zodiac use PalmOS, I'll give it a shot. BTW is it Wi-Fi compatible?
399$ for that peice of shit? it looks like game boy advance graphics. and i'm a huge old school fan so don't say i don't appreciate classic games. but 400 bucks 1 year before the psp came out in japan for less then 200$.
I personally bought this just to play Duke Nukem Mobile in my quest to get every duke nukem game for every system. The cool feature of the Zodiac that I do not believe you mentioned is it has rumble support. I think its an awesome feature that no other handheld that I have features. Plus you can always bet on duke. Sadly my battery doesnt last long but that doesnt matter I usually play it at home so I can have it plugged in.
Duke Nukem port looks a bit inferior. Shotgun animation is incomplete. Still, looks like a good console overall and I'll add it to my collection soon enough.
Damn! Another system I really wanted years ago but again never managed to get one. So much better then Nintendo had and still has. I'd take a Tapwave and a Gizmondo over a Nintendo DS.
1. Old technology - only works with old cards. Only get a measly few gigabytes to work with this old thing
2. D-pad is shite.
3. Commercially released games are re-releases of moldy old PC games, which often don't run well or control well. Playing Doom 2 on this thing is a joke. I can't control it well at all.
4. Emulators could be its biggest strength, but the d-pad ruins it.
I'm not a fanboy of Sony, but the PSP blows this thing away
Of course the PSP blows it away.. this came out in 2003 and didn't have a multi-billion dollar Japanese company backing it. :P I'd say from the games I've seen, this thing easily blows away the DS in terms of graphics anyway.
Is the pad really that bad? It looks like the Neo-Geo Pocket stick, which I still think is one of the best on a handheld. The Duke Nukem game looks like it runs great to me.
I'd like to get one of these for MAME since the PSP doesn't have a decent port of that.
@ videogameobsession - YES THE TAPWAVE DPAD IS BAD!! It only remotely compares to the Neogeo Pocket one. The Neogeo pocket one clicks precisely, has a rubber bumper to disable diagonals, and is contour curved for your thumb.
The tapwave zodiac's feels flimsy, doesn't feel very precise and accurate, and it completely round on the top.
@ videogameobsession - The PSP came out only a year or so later. It's not like Tapwave was so ahead of the game exactly. I'm sure the Zodiac had potential. But the d-pad poses a big problem for enjoying classic console emualtors. Its just not very good quality.
And seriously, DOOM 2 on this system is practically unplayable. You can't even move Up diagonally in it without your player spinning around in circles. And I configured the d-pad in setup like millions of times.
I actually had a chance to try a Zodiac handheld and it was at a store known as Comp USA, a computer store, which sold alot of high tech devices and back then they actually were selling Zodiacs. I wanted one mainly cause of the specs, it had and it had a big touch screen.
The device was quite amazing. When PSP came out, I fell in love with the PSP, mainly cause of the big screen and graphics.
the game number for the gizmondo is about 60 with homebrew downloads,also the gizmondo is astounding quality,(but it was 2 years later than the tapwave).
This thing was a monster and to an extent still is. I use mine mostly as a PDA/portable media player. I suggest the TCPMP player for videos if you ever use it for that.
if you have any extra video consoles even fake ones like the polystation can you donate some i want to start making console reviews its ok if you say no
I don't think this guy's anti Nintendo....he's more pro everything gaming related. But getting back to this system: The screen is amazing! it's so clear it looks like it's been recorded on a PC and then framed with the hands and casing for a realistic effect, haha.
Sorry but if this was superior to Nintendo it wouldn't of failed and developers would of actually wanted to make games for it. Sounds to me like your just anti Nintendo. Hate to say it but quality comes first and Nintendo is far superior in that department then any other company. Just ask all those xbox and playstation fans who cant play cause there crap broke 3 months after it was bought. Hmm my NES still works great. Come to think I NEVER had a nintendo break on me.
I see you're a Nintendo Fanboy. If you watch my other videos you will see that I'm a big fan of the Nintendo as well. This system was superior to the GB advance when it comes to graphics etc. It just didn't get the support of the developers as you mentioned, which killed it.
spec wise it was superrior, it had better graphics capability, a bigger screen, a real analog stick, it's just a small company device so people weren't that confident or interested in backing it.
Hehe.. I love Nintendo, but my DS Lite broke after about 3 months and I treat my VG systems and games with EXTREME care. For example, my NES from 1985 is still working perfectly! As is my Gameboy (1989). The DS Lite is very fragile though and mine broke from just opening it as normal. On a related note I've never had a Sony product die on me. I own 5 PSX systems (don't ask) and they are all perfect.
Gamester81, cool video man. I might want to get one of these for the collection!
And further more there were many systems released over the years that were graphically superior to what Nintendo had at the time. Nintendo was just very good at obtaining 3rd party Licensers.
For example
The Sega Game Gear was more powerful than the GB and the GBC.
@Britishdude1 you see the thing is, graphics doesn't really mean much. Look at the Wii, it doesn't even support HD and it kicks the shit out of PS3 and 360 in sales.
@Britishdude1 Hey man, google 72 pin connector for the NES. This is most liekly your problem. You might not even have to replace it. I simply cleaned mine. They're about $10 new and there are plenty of youtube videos on how to clean or replace them. I had the same problem. Fixed now :]
@zukirider202 you're an idiot the game gear that came out in 1990 had better graphics and hardware then the nes which was nintendo's current system at the time. it also had better graphics then the game boy and game boy color which came out 8 years later. nintendo used to have a all the 3rd party game support in the 80s and early 90s. now all they have for wii and ds is shovelware.
@zukirider202 I loved Nintendo's consoles, I personally think they killed it with the Wii - I do agree that the Advance was one of the best portables though, and man.. the DS is awesome too! I just wish they'd get their home consoles sorted out!
i really wanted to buy one back in 2003 but i knew this would fail because it was only available for purchase on the zodiac's website (i think), it had a poor library of games and the nintendo ds and sony psp was just 1 year away.
the zodiac got great hardware reviews but you can't compete with nintendo and sony!
The Zodiac was my favorite portable. I used to for work as it was a regular palm based PDA, but I also used it for games, music, movies and TV shows. It was awesome! Sadly mine died a couple of months ago.
There are two main reasons I believe it didn't take off. First was the price tag. $399 is a lot to spend for a handheld. Second it was mainly marketed to the business professionals as a Palm Pilot device, and not really as a gaming system.
it didn't take off beacause as you said it was expensive and as i said in a previous post, the nintendo ds and psp was about 1 year away and people was much more excited about them than the zodiac cause of the much stronger game developer support.
Can you put emulators on this thing?
And if so which emulators can it handle?
TheGAMESHARQ 3 days ago
I am getting a tapwave, until now, i did not know how powerful, it is, i found games on amazon, etc, so i will get some, its easier to get games for this, then the gizmondo.
squirm13 1 month ago
i just found this little thing for $50. its missing the stylus, but still great.
CaptainAshra 9 months ago
I heard you mention this on tvlandandlust 's channel and I had to come check it out. You're right man, it does run well on here!
m15granger 10 months ago
Is the tapwave any good?
cause lots of people are saying now that it's underrated and should have been recognized more and stuff
legorocks3 10 months ago
Im waiting for a portable system that is easy to get and affordable and emulate ps2 games, it's not that hard to build something powerful enough to do it considoring ps2 came out in 1999
Airking11 11 months ago
@Airking11 i think there is a portable system for ps2 not sure though,but there is one for ps1 the first playstation,i would suggest look on amazon or ebay my best guess, and or just look on the computer and type ps2 portable handheld system
anicentwarinator1990 1 week ago
a jailbroken ipod touch 3g or 4g is sooooooo much better, ipod touch is the best pocket computer/ portable game system
Airking11 11 months ago
badass little divice
greasedupgamer 1 year ago
I have a Zodiac 2 (beside my HTC HD2, Ipod Touch 4g) and it still makes me sad that Tapwave wasn't able to get these things of the ground. The concept is amazing and the controls are still the best I ever played a game with.
Shretters 1 year ago
I've got balls of steel!!! LOL
SofaKingWeTodEd666 1 year ago
Man, this thing is AWESOME! I currently have a PalmOne Tungsten T5 that I have been using for playing games, but the control sucks, what with the 5-way navigation and all. Seeing this makes me wanna go and get one to replace my T5, especially seeing that you can play Duke Nukem on it. There's a site with apps for playing the original Duke 3D and Doom (look up ZDoomZ), and trying it out, it looked really promising, and since the Zodiac use PalmOS, I'll give it a shot. BTW is it Wi-Fi compatible?
NESRULES111 1 year ago
where can u get 1
kennyluo159 1 year ago
how come in some videos you whisper but in some like this you talk loud?
wesley12106 1 year ago
damn the graphics look almost as good as like ps1
ps3tna 1 year ago
you better do a duke nukem forever review when and if it comes out but it supposidly comming in febuary damn gear box make it happen
pinky315 1 year ago
When I saw it in Stargate I went crazy! They also used and OQO in Stargate.
Gizmondo23 1 year ago
399$ for that peice of shit? it looks like game boy advance graphics. and i'm a huge old school fan so don't say i don't appreciate classic games. but 400 bucks 1 year before the psp came out in japan for less then 200$.
mechayamcha 1 year ago
is that also a cell phone ?
MrWrestlingfanno1 1 year ago
joystick is a tilt joystick correct? And how would it compare to say, the gamecube analog stick?
Tchay777 1 year ago
i ws gonna get one of these but the gizmondo caught my eye first lol
still you can play games like that on the gizmondo too with the emulators etc
i had quake ad everything running on it :)
anyways enjoyed the review and the gizmondo one also :)
good job!
puggz
puggster 1 year ago
great review! i remember seeing the ad for zodiac in oct 2003 EGM magazine and saying "this will have nintendo shaking in their shoes!"
OOOOOO BOY i was wrong! XD
trinidadparaminman 1 year ago
wtf is up with the first 56 seconds of video?! show the damn unit instead of the wall
gmodesike 1 year ago
I personally bought this just to play Duke Nukem Mobile in my quest to get every duke nukem game for every system. The cool feature of the Zodiac that I do not believe you mentioned is it has rumble support. I think its an awesome feature that no other handheld that I have features. Plus you can always bet on duke. Sadly my battery doesnt last long but that doesnt matter I usually play it at home so I can have it plugged in.
gamemaster14neo 1 year ago
wots the tomb raider games name 4 this consal?
alien92able 1 year ago
This looks more like a PDA than a portable gaming device to me.
Britishdude1 1 year ago
I remember actually wanting to buy this system back in the day. It seemed so cool with being both a game system and a PalmOS PDA.
AWriterWandering 1 year ago
This would have been a great system, looks much better than a DS and has more functionalities, I would kill to have on of these.
SniperStorm7 1 year ago
Duke Nukem port looks a bit inferior. Shotgun animation is incomplete. Still, looks like a good console overall and I'll add it to my collection soon enough.
GeneStarwind09 1 year ago
Damn! Another system I really wanted years ago but again never managed to get one. So much better then Nintendo had and still has. I'd take a Tapwave and a Gizmondo over a Nintendo DS.
~fin~
Juggla17 1 year ago
Tapwave Zodiac came in Oct 2003, Sony PSP and Nintendo DS in Dec 2004.
Even though, so many pressure came towards the Zodiac.
AimalCool 1 year ago
LOL this game...its a .java game...my sony ericsson w610i can play it..and it sucks ass...compared to the original dn 3d
TheSpyChecker 1 year ago
sd card thiner
Saltydko 1 year ago
Thanks for making this video. There aren't a lot of videos about this console. =) 5/5
SuperSZ 1 year ago
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Mindman111 2 years ago
Top Reasons not to bother with Zodiac:
1. Old technology - only works with old cards. Only get a measly few gigabytes to work with this old thing
2. D-pad is shite.
3. Commercially released games are re-releases of moldy old PC games, which often don't run well or control well. Playing Doom 2 on this thing is a joke. I can't control it well at all.
4. Emulators could be its biggest strength, but the d-pad ruins it.
I'm not a fanboy of Sony, but the PSP blows this thing away
dogeymon83 2 years ago
Of course the PSP blows it away.. this came out in 2003 and didn't have a multi-billion dollar Japanese company backing it. :P I'd say from the games I've seen, this thing easily blows away the DS in terms of graphics anyway.
Is the pad really that bad? It looks like the Neo-Geo Pocket stick, which I still think is one of the best on a handheld. The Duke Nukem game looks like it runs great to me.
I'd like to get one of these for MAME since the PSP doesn't have a decent port of that.
videogameobsession 2 years ago
@ videogameobsession - YES THE TAPWAVE DPAD IS BAD!! It only remotely compares to the Neogeo Pocket one. The Neogeo pocket one clicks precisely, has a rubber bumper to disable diagonals, and is contour curved for your thumb.
The tapwave zodiac's feels flimsy, doesn't feel very precise and accurate, and it completely round on the top.
dogeymon83 2 years ago
@ videogameobsession - The PSP came out only a year or so later. It's not like Tapwave was so ahead of the game exactly. I'm sure the Zodiac had potential. But the d-pad poses a big problem for enjoying classic console emualtors. Its just not very good quality.
And seriously, DOOM 2 on this system is practically unplayable. You can't even move Up diagonally in it without your player spinning around in circles. And I configured the d-pad in setup like millions of times.
dogeymon83 2 years ago
I actually had a chance to try a Zodiac handheld and it was at a store known as Comp USA, a computer store, which sold alot of high tech devices and back then they actually were selling Zodiacs. I wanted one mainly cause of the specs, it had and it had a big touch screen.
The device was quite amazing. When PSP came out, I fell in love with the PSP, mainly cause of the big screen and graphics.
YamiAnubisX 2 years ago
Thats a cool system. How many games are out for that and can you easily get them still?
JasonJ25 2 years ago
I'm not sure how many games were released for it, but every once in awhile they sell on ebay. The system is hard to find though.
Gamester81 2 years ago
According to Wikipedia, if I read correctly, 16 games were released for the Zodiac (and only 200,000 Zodiacs were released worldwide).
Its library's better than the Gizmondo's, that's for sure!
gshowguy 1 year ago
the game number for the gizmondo is about 60 with homebrew downloads,also the gizmondo is astounding quality,(but it was 2 years later than the tapwave).
cymrank 1 year ago
@Gamester81 I have one of this..got it back in 2005...but what i didn't realize is that this kind of device was rare.. :\
TechzoneTV 1 year ago
@JasonJ25 Go to the Tapwave Zodiac article in Wikipedia. It shows all the games for the console in one of the sections.
AimalCool 1 year ago
This thing was a monster and to an extent still is. I use mine mostly as a PDA/portable media player. I suggest the TCPMP player for videos if you ever use it for that.
FedorovAvtomat 2 years ago
ah nice review!
drakgrotta 2 years ago
if you have any extra video consoles even fake ones like the polystation can you donate some i want to start making console reviews its ok if you say no
Mr12345678910kid 2 years ago
is it just me or does it look like a PSP
th3d3storoy3r 2 years ago
I don't think this guy's anti Nintendo....he's more pro everything gaming related. But getting back to this system: The screen is amazing! it's so clear it looks like it's been recorded on a PC and then framed with the hands and casing for a realistic effect, haha.
nookie077 2 years ago
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Sorry but if this was superior to Nintendo it wouldn't of failed and developers would of actually wanted to make games for it. Sounds to me like your just anti Nintendo. Hate to say it but quality comes first and Nintendo is far superior in that department then any other company. Just ask all those xbox and playstation fans who cant play cause there crap broke 3 months after it was bought. Hmm my NES still works great. Come to think I NEVER had a nintendo break on me.
zukirider202 2 years ago
I see you're a Nintendo Fanboy. If you watch my other videos you will see that I'm a big fan of the Nintendo as well. This system was superior to the GB advance when it comes to graphics etc. It just didn't get the support of the developers as you mentioned, which killed it.
Gamester81 2 years ago 11
spec wise it was superrior, it had better graphics capability, a bigger screen, a real analog stick, it's just a small company device so people weren't that confident or interested in backing it.
jonnybryce 2 years ago
Hehe.. I love Nintendo, but my DS Lite broke after about 3 months and I treat my VG systems and games with EXTREME care. For example, my NES from 1985 is still working perfectly! As is my Gameboy (1989). The DS Lite is very fragile though and mine broke from just opening it as normal. On a related note I've never had a Sony product die on me. I own 5 PSX systems (don't ask) and they are all perfect.
Gamester81, cool video man. I might want to get one of these for the collection!
videogameobsession 2 years ago
WOah thats a lot'
Saltydko 1 year ago
@zukirider202 so are you saying the dreamcast sucked? if so then i will have to kill you
mattrules44 1 year ago
@zukirider202
My NES broke on me :(
And further more there were many systems released over the years that were graphically superior to what Nintendo had at the time. Nintendo was just very good at obtaining 3rd party Licensers.
For example
The Sega Game Gear was more powerful than the GB and the GBC.
The Atari Lynx is also in the same boat.
The PSP is loads more powerful than the DS.
The Turbo Grafx 16 was more powerful than the NES
The 360 and PS3 is more powerful than the Wii.
etc etc etc.
Britishdude1 1 year ago 5
@Britishdude1 you see the thing is, graphics doesn't really mean much. Look at the Wii, it doesn't even support HD and it kicks the shit out of PS3 and 360 in sales.
SURPLUSNiNjA 1 year ago
@SURPLUSNiNjA That was kinda my point.
Britishdude1 1 year ago
@Britishdude1 Hey man, google 72 pin connector for the NES. This is most liekly your problem. You might not even have to replace it. I simply cleaned mine. They're about $10 new and there are plenty of youtube videos on how to clean or replace them. I had the same problem. Fixed now :]
m15granger 10 months ago
@Britishdude1
It's all about the games not the system
BabblingHats 6 months ago
@zukirider202 u are very stupid read about something before u speak r-tard
Crazywredd 1 year ago
@zukirider202 you're an idiot the game gear that came out in 1990 had better graphics and hardware then the nes which was nintendo's current system at the time. it also had better graphics then the game boy and game boy color which came out 8 years later. nintendo used to have a all the 3rd party game support in the 80s and early 90s. now all they have for wii and ds is shovelware.
mechayamcha 1 year ago
@zukirider202 I loved Nintendo's consoles, I personally think they killed it with the Wii - I do agree that the Advance was one of the best portables though, and man.. the DS is awesome too! I just wish they'd get their home consoles sorted out!
ThePhoneUpdate 1 year ago
wow, an FPS on a handheld!
thevideoguy666 2 years ago
how do you find and research these obscure systems? :o
Hal566 2 years ago
how do i get one
dsman098 2 years ago
I picked up mine on ebay a little while back.
Gamester81 2 years ago
Cool.
Squadalha 2 years ago
Have it rumble feature?
Squadalha 2 years ago
Yeah it rumbles.
Gamester81 2 years ago
this looks awesome
gav1230 2 years ago
is this more powerful than the psp and ds.
johnTRAN93 2 years ago
i really wanted to buy one back in 2003 but i knew this would fail because it was only available for purchase on the zodiac's website (i think), it had a poor library of games and the nintendo ds and sony psp was just 1 year away.
the zodiac got great hardware reviews but you can't compete with nintendo and sony!
trinidadparaminman 2 years ago
The Zodiac was my favorite portable. I used to for work as it was a regular palm based PDA, but I also used it for games, music, movies and TV shows. It was awesome! Sadly mine died a couple of months ago.
sharkinfested 2 years ago
That's too bad that yours died. Have you tried getting it fixed?
Gamester81 2 years ago
No. I moved on to the iPod Touch. The Touch is ok but I miss the Zodiac.
sharkinfested 2 years ago
Very awesome! I've never heard of this thing before but I suddenly want one.
sinistermoon 2 years ago
How much did YOU pay for it? it seems pretty cool.
gamerjr92 2 years ago
With 10 games and the case, I paid about $150 for it with shipping.
Gamester81 2 years ago
very nice.
gamerjr92 2 years ago
ahhh, I used to rock this along my n-gage lol. memories...
vandilize 2 years ago
what was the reason why it didn't take off?
mojohookbarb 2 years ago
There are two main reasons I believe it didn't take off. First was the price tag. $399 is a lot to spend for a handheld. Second it was mainly marketed to the business professionals as a Palm Pilot device, and not really as a gaming system.
Gamester81 2 years ago
i see. that's even to much now-a-days for a hand held counsil. thank you for responding. great reviews and i look forward to seeing more.
mojohookbarb 2 years ago
it didn't take off beacause as you said it was expensive and as i said in a previous post, the nintendo ds and psp was about 1 year away and people was much more excited about them than the zodiac cause of the much stronger game developer support.
trinidadparaminman 2 years ago
Actually the handheld is called "Zodiac" and it was made by Tapwave. Good review though!
blueswan1984 2 years ago
You're right, thanks for the correction.
Gamester81 2 years ago
First game reminds me of wolfestine 3d looks exactly the same
budf1 2 years ago
I remember the handheld that Samantha Carter used, no WONDER it looked so familiar!! Love me some Stargate!!
nathanallan1 2 years ago
I heard it vibrating when you were hit. Was it actually vibrating?
PinbobPictures 2 years ago
Yeah the system does vibrate.
Gamester81 2 years ago
SG-1 was great until RDA left the show.
vintagevideogamegeek 2 years ago
I get confused between Duke Nukem, Doom, and The Rock.
Did you ever play Rise of the Triad on the computer? That was a sweet-arse game.
vintagevideogamegeek 2 years ago
Nah I never played Rise of the Triad on the computer. I'll have to check it out. I also enjoyed SW Dark Forces as well for the comuter.
Gamester81 2 years ago