I had an honor to get him some sparkling water and towels from nearby store before his clinic started in Kuopio. I was working there for 2 weeks, and talked a lot with Kai, believe me he's a real nice guy! His drumming was incredible (I think this song was even better when he played it at my town!)
Well, I dunno, he already has a backtrack and that should be enough. And further, why would anybody want to go see a guy play that has to depend on a click to keep in time. I mean i'm sure he could very well play with out it, so it's just silly to me.
Im not a drummer but i would think that the tracks are good but for some of the fills its easier to keep in time with the click because its keeping the 1,2,3,4 instead of depending on the tracks to know what beat of the measure he is on. plus sometimes the drum fills are really fast even though the music is slower so he might lose his place without the click, which he has in his ear on live shows as well.
lol every drummer uses a click , fail isnt an option live , if you dont your a drumming god or your a fucking dick , in both way just stfu and listen , nobody want your opinion fag .
Stupid Idiot! Dont talk so much...c´mon show us how gooooooddd YOU are! This is not the best video of Kai Hahto, but he is a GREAT drummer! And you?? LOL
Yes it is, because he plays along guitar track with the click and you cannot separate the guitar track from the click unless you have a computer with Q-base or something and an audiocard, or a sampler, wich alows you to choose wich track you want in the headphones and wich one you want in the speakers!
I'm sorry if you guys misunterstand me, but English is not my mother tongue! ;-)
He probably uses just a simple audio file (mp3, wav) with click and guitars. In that case you cannont isolate the metronome. Except if you use the stereo (click on the left and guitars on the right), then you can play the left part on the headphones and the right part on the speakers. But if you do that, the guitars and keyboards will be in mono wich means poor quality!
Kyllähän Kaitsu vetelee. Itse olin kans tuolla ja kuvasin aika paljonkin mutta digikameran kortti päättikin tehdä sitten oharin ja kaikki data meni sen sileän tien sitten. Harmitus lievä sana
How can you differentiate between the two. Help me out, I'm a noob.
Wintersun rule and Kai is sort of the unsung hero. May I show my respect to the drummer behind Jari with a solemn and devoted flashing of the horns. \m/
well... 6/8 its actually a 2/4 with a triplet feel..generally in 3/4 you make the beat on 3 notes, in 6/8 you make the beat on 6 notes..and the accents are placed with less strength at the 4 note of the 6/8...besides if you listen to songs on 6/8 he does here pretty much the standart, its like a blues but adding all the ride/hh hits.. and giving it a rocker feel..
So, it's about the accents? In this case the accents would be the symbols? Am I right? I read through your info then watched the first minute or so trying to analyse it in a matter you described. I think I understand, but am not 100% sure. They way I counted was 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and symbol and 2 and 3... Whereas 3/4 would have been 1 and 2 and 3 and symbol and 2 and 3 and symbol... Sorry if that doesn't make much sense to you, I did my best :P
i count the number above and with consideration of the pulse, then i see if its /4,/8,/16 and so... its a feeling issue, depending on how everything is placed on the music, you know that its a 6/8 and not a 3/4.. its the same as "how do you know if its 4/4 or 2/4?" you have to feel it, and search how long the melodies last, and so...
well jari tries not to take all the credit anyhow ,he introduces Kai to the audience everytime wintersun plays and Kai almost always plays a drum solo :P so he is not a unsung hero(in my opinion) they both rock!!
are wicked dude?! it's exactly the same thempo, 6/8 = 3/4, the difference is that in 6/8 you count 6 eighth notes per stave, in 3/4 you count 3 quarter notes per stave... 2 eighth notes equals 1 quarter note... so what are you talking about?!
Actually that isn't quite true, they are the same length of time, but the pulse and length of the "beat" are different. For example, bpm (beats per measure) for the song would be completely different if you changed the time signature from 3/4 to 6/8, because the "beat" would be three eighth notes long instead of two. I prefer to think of the song in 3/4 at moderate tempo, but 6/8 at a really slow tempo technically works. Besides, we have some 5/4 in there throwing the bpm consistency off anyways
I agree but guy before tried to tell the ppl that 6/8 equals 2/4 which is bullshit... and I tried to tell that it can be played in 3/4 and 6/8... I said it a little chaotically :P
6/8 is similar to 2/4 with a triplet feel 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 trip-l-et trip-l-et see the similarities? strong accents in 6/8 fall on 1 and 4 leading it to be counted as such ONE two three FOUR five six which is similar to TRIP-l-et TRIP-l-et (1) (2)
haha thats true but the thing is. srumming isnt about being musical its about being rythmic and kai certainly does that. but yeah does he ever like ever fuck up
Stars aren´t going to be sleeping after this epic drumming:D
DETHMETALFINLAND 6 months ago
this guy can make "easy part" into something amazing. there is always happening something. gotta love kai. cheers :)
jargge 7 months ago
Hahto gave me a small bottle of schnapps at a signing session yesterday xD
He's so awesome.
EnemyOfHiphop 9 months ago
He looks like Russel Crowe, this same kind of smile. Greetings from Poland!
Konkwistadorrr 9 months ago 3
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so...i'd just like to point out that wintersun has no song called sleeping stars...
juniorman01 9 months ago
@juniorman01 What about song number 3 on the album?
81Shagrath 9 months ago
@juniorman01 yes they do
shredaholic86 9 months ago
@juniorman01 Haha, oh dear.
LongingExtermination 9 months ago
@juniorman01 well than you are miss informed
soulhunterrx 5 months ago
Awesome Band with awesome musicians, and Kai is one of them.
Tictacjunky 10 months ago
He has perfect independence. I have seen him live and he can do everything the same with both arms and legs.
wendepic 10 months ago
1:18 = awsome
SnootyWimbledon 11 months ago
this is what joey jordison wants to be.
10taclearts 11 months ago 4
that. was. sick. period.
Sullivanandfreinds 1 year ago
I had an honor to get him some sparkling water and towels from nearby store before his clinic started in Kuopio. I was working there for 2 weeks, and talked a lot with Kai, believe me he's a real nice guy! His drumming was incredible (I think this song was even better when he played it at my town!)
Corrosive1 1 year ago
He doesnt even sweat when he plays!!!
DemonosSilvast 1 year ago
why is he not god yet?
Mustainecakes 1 year ago
It's a privilege to watch him play. God, I love him.
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Sometimes you can see him smiling like: "Omfg, I'm so fucking good!"
and well..... he's right!
MelodicBlechMetal 1 year ago
Sometimes you can see him smiling like: "Omfg, I'm so fucking good!"
and well..... he's right
MelodicBlechMetal 1 year ago
@MelodicBlechMetal actually he is smiling just after those hell intense parts, he is just happy he nailed it
theminimoose 1 year ago
outro is fucking crazy at 5:30
KutViZ 1 year ago 2
0;56 - 1;01 <3333333
Atharg 1 year ago
wow. holy freaking god.
TheWargasmic 1 year ago
I saw this video clip and it made me listen wintersun which I haven't in a long time. I forgot how epic this band is.
lockbwithu 1 year ago 5
he is a god of drumming...I fail....I ment to say...wintersun is the god of everything that has something to do with real music :D
994sven 1 year ago 4
Wintersun!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gods in human form.
How fortunate are we that Jari found someone as super awesome as Kai to complement his skillz!
suranjay 1 year ago 11
That was fucking perfect.
skegtheegg 2 years ago 4
Wintersun is so fucking awesome!:D
15975322 2 years ago 5
does he ever use triggers??
Zachpaul95 2 years ago
he uses triggers and mics on his bassdrums.
Deathhunter992 2 years ago
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why would you play with a click?
SITBoE 2 years ago
Why not?
n0b0d1r 2 years ago 2
Well, I dunno, he already has a backtrack and that should be enough. And further, why would anybody want to go see a guy play that has to depend on a click to keep in time. I mean i'm sure he could very well play with out it, so it's just silly to me.
SITBoE 2 years ago
Im not a drummer but i would think that the tracks are good but for some of the fills its easier to keep in time with the click because its keeping the 1,2,3,4 instead of depending on the tracks to know what beat of the measure he is on. plus sometimes the drum fills are really fast even though the music is slower so he might lose his place without the click, which he has in his ear on live shows as well.
Klavikal 2 years ago
@SITBoE
shoot yourself in the face.
or hang yourself, if you dont know anything about drumming..shut your mouth,..and die
alitmz 2 years ago
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admit that your gay drummer can't keep a beat so he needs a gay click
SITBoE 2 years ago
Who you are? :D
Some teenager who listens to mainstream music and thinks he is cool because of it?
Anyway.. awesome drumming and really awesome listen to it! This guy seriously rocks.
Finland's best drummer in my opinion :)
Akingboy 1 year ago 6
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Answer me, why does he depend on a click?
SITBoE 1 year ago
He doesn't 'depend' on the click. But when you are in the studio recording long senssions it's better to have to mentronome to back you up.
Might be quite annoying to lose track of the beat and start over when there is like some silent moments in the song.
But it's not necessary. Does it bother you or something?
Akingboy 1 year ago 3
@SITBoE The same reason a symphony has a conductor. What the fuck do you think a metronome is used for? To listen to a clicking sound?
EpocathY 1 year ago 3
lol every drummer uses a click , fail isnt an option live , if you dont your a drumming god or your a fucking dick , in both way just stfu and listen , nobody want your opinion fag .
DeceitsEmbrace 1 year ago 2
He's truely inspirational the way he plays.
SolarCreation 2 years ago
screw the korg you can fall aseep to them drums he's fucken awesome
usmcusmcusmc 2 years ago 2
That Korg M3 on the wall is sexy. I want it.
shieldofwings 2 years ago
its like one drum set on each side. a mirror in the middle. man, hes plays with so much feeling, its crazy..
iinayr 2 years ago 2
Kai is insane, fucking pro!
Senten92 2 years ago 7
which is him dominant hand?
I don't think i saw him cross his hands
deadtotheworld00 2 years ago
He usually leads with his right hand, but sometimes he switches to his left hand. His right hand is definitely the dominant one.
Wensteri 2 years ago
It's truely inspiring how he plays. I always think of this and how good he is before I start playing.
WinterSong528 2 years ago
Stupid Idiot! Dont talk so much...c´mon show us how gooooooddd YOU are! This is not the best video of Kai Hahto, but he is a GREAT drummer! And you?? LOL
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i got a drumset 2 weeks ago and im already better then this idiot. hahahaahahah jk im sooo bad kai teach mee!!!!! please (: i need help i suck!!!!!!
Wintermadness64 2 years ago
Please give me some of your powers! 5 stars!
nateox79 2 years ago 40
This guy just makes Wintersun that much more complete of a package....... I want to see him put up Battle Against Time!
andrewh817 2 years ago 13
fucking beast on the drums!
MaestroMike673 2 years ago 5
God damn he is good.
JasioK 2 years ago 4
I wonder if the metronome was supposed to be heard?
Radwalls 2 years ago
@Radwalls
Yes it is, because he plays along guitar track with the click and you cannot separate the guitar track from the click unless you have a computer with Q-base or something and an audiocard, or a sampler, wich alows you to choose wich track you want in the headphones and wich one you want in the speakers!
I'm sorry if you guys misunterstand me, but English is not my mother tongue! ;-)
BigMutch 2 years ago
Yes but he has headphones in. so why couldn't they just isolate the metronome for only kai to hear.
Radwalls 2 years ago
He probably uses just a simple audio file (mp3, wav) with click and guitars. In that case you cannont isolate the metronome. Except if you use the stereo (click on the left and guitars on the right), then you can play the left part on the headphones and the right part on the speakers. But if you do that, the guitars and keyboards will be in mono wich means poor quality!
BigMutch 2 years ago
i love kai and Jari there just too godly its not fair
Wintermadness64 2 years ago 7
dont feel bad man, they arent humans so we cant expect to get as good as them.
Tb0neZ5 2 years ago
Ye they aren't humans. They are from planet called Finland where some crazy things might happen. And I know I live in Finland myself :P
Nautamies 2 years ago
i love the beat change at 5:29. always was one of my favorite parts of the song... so subtle
edgecrushers 2 years ago 3
AWESOME!!!
BodomBlastBeats 2 years ago 2
THE GRINDER
ifklirarn 2 years ago
The ending is SICK
JSX22 2 years ago
Kai is The Mastter =)
Wintersun has so much emotions and feeling in their songs....how is this possible...?
cobarethebest 2 years ago 6
never question a god :D
redraven150 2 years ago 4
he is not a god!!!!!! He is better and more powerful than any god xD
wintersun are purea masters
to bad that the bass parts arent more advanced
tkdliron 2 years ago 5
wow he has a lots of drums
majcica 2 years ago
A drummer as creative as him can add anything the fuck he wants.
kingmonumar 2 years ago 72
its original in my opinion, only small things added
777drummerofdeath777 2 years ago 5
is he playing the original or is he adding stuff?
ZanyAnton 2 years ago 5
He's adding alot of stuff.
CamerOneiric 2 years ago 8
nice!
MrPedal94 3 years ago
he is a viking god! exelent! a master of drums!
Zambora92 3 years ago 4
Kyllähän Kaitsu vetelee. Itse olin kans tuolla ja kuvasin aika paljonkin mutta digikameran kortti päättikin tehdä sitten oharin ja kaikki data meni sen sileän tien sitten. Harmitus lievä sana
VladDevastor 3 years ago 2
Love Kai.
KriegerDesHasses 3 years ago 3
que hijo de puta :S
kornaas 3 years ago
gozu bist
vision111111 3 years ago
All while wearing a sweater, yes he is indeed a God, hails!
kingcarcas1349 3 years ago 2
well yeah, hes awesome... but a sweater makes little difference.
BoM45 3 years ago 2
Wintersun is the reincarnation of Death. They are so fuckin good.
reYKCuf 3 years ago 18
agreed!
napalmcarcass 3 years ago 3
yeah dude definetly...If chuck was from finland death would have been wintersun
xXcutXmeXemilyXx 3 years ago 6
yup. wintersun is the best thing that has happend to metal ina while.
napalmcarcass 3 years ago 12
well, wintersun arent even close to as revolutionary as death..... and thats just the end of it.
BoM45 3 years ago
amazing O_O
look at 2.31 , fucking awesome!
gdrdimaio3 3 years ago
se pitää vaasas rumpu tunteja ja oon sen yks oppilas
joku65432 3 years ago
that song is on 6/8 actually, not 3/4...
carcassgrindcorpsesc 3 years ago
How can you differentiate between the two. Help me out, I'm a noob.
Wintersun rule and Kai is sort of the unsung hero. May I show my respect to the drummer behind Jari with a solemn and devoted flashing of the horns. \m/
olio16 3 years ago
well... 6/8 its actually a 2/4 with a triplet feel..generally in 3/4 you make the beat on 3 notes, in 6/8 you make the beat on 6 notes..and the accents are placed with less strength at the 4 note of the 6/8...besides if you listen to songs on 6/8 he does here pretty much the standart, its like a blues but adding all the ride/hh hits.. and giving it a rocker feel..
carcassgrindcorpsesc 3 years ago
So, it's about the accents? In this case the accents would be the symbols? Am I right? I read through your info then watched the first minute or so trying to analyse it in a matter you described. I think I understand, but am not 100% sure. They way I counted was 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and symbol and 2 and 3... Whereas 3/4 would have been 1 and 2 and 3 and symbol and 2 and 3 and symbol... Sorry if that doesn't make much sense to you, I did my best :P
olio16 3 years ago
i count the number above and with consideration of the pulse, then i see if its /4,/8,/16 and so... its a feeling issue, depending on how everything is placed on the music, you know that its a 6/8 and not a 3/4.. its the same as "how do you know if its 4/4 or 2/4?" you have to feel it, and search how long the melodies last, and so...
carcassgrindcorpsesc 3 years ago
Alright, thanks for the info.
olio16 3 years ago
well jari tries not to take all the credit anyhow ,he introduces Kai to the audience everytime wintersun plays and Kai almost always plays a drum solo :P so he is not a unsung hero(in my opinion) they both rock!!
metalicsnake 3 years ago
are wicked dude?! it's exactly the same thempo, 6/8 = 3/4, the difference is that in 6/8 you count 6 eighth notes per stave, in 3/4 you count 3 quarter notes per stave... 2 eighth notes equals 1 quarter note... so what are you talking about?!
Skipioza 3 years ago
Actually that isn't quite true, they are the same length of time, but the pulse and length of the "beat" are different. For example, bpm (beats per measure) for the song would be completely different if you changed the time signature from 3/4 to 6/8, because the "beat" would be three eighth notes long instead of two. I prefer to think of the song in 3/4 at moderate tempo, but 6/8 at a really slow tempo technically works. Besides, we have some 5/4 in there throwing the bpm consistency off anyways
Skoojoo 3 years ago 2
Yeah but what about 13/11?
Peatman 3 years ago
I agree but guy before tried to tell the ppl that 6/8 equals 2/4 which is bullshit... and I tried to tell that it can be played in 3/4 and 6/8... I said it a little chaotically :P
Skipioza 3 years ago
steway 3 years ago 7
yep, it can be written in 2/4 with triplets, but what for?
Skipioza 2 years ago
the feels are different in both time signatures
6/8 is triple meter
and 3/4 is duple meter
steway 3 years ago 3
Vittu jätkäl kävi mäihä! vai tisitkö et hahto käy tuol? mäki haluun törmää siihen jossai :)
DrumMeema 3 years ago
Ei Kai oo hyvä... SE ON PARAS! =D
hoilla 3 years ago 6
Woah aika hyvä rumpali!
lolman9876 3 years ago
Hehe, at some points the camera can't even keep up with him.
Fizwiget1 3 years ago
Haha, He kinda looks like my ex girlfriend's dad xD
Geschlecht 3 years ago
I`m a guitarist but still i respect more hahto than all the guitarists in the world.
Irhvin93 3 years ago 4
Have you heard him on Rotten Sound? This is awesome, in that it is SICK :D
Narza85 3 years ago
paras rumpali!!
cobcry 3 years ago 2
u can sucessfuly merge 4/4 and 3/4 beat if u slow down a 4/4 a little.
ciroludak 3 years ago
God!
perfect...=)
ShadyDeath666 3 years ago 8
usually i dont like hereing drums but i guess this is one of the times i like listening to it
wintersunmetalhead 3 years ago 2
That was awesome !!!!
supremeoverlordtwism 3 years ago
paras!
cobcry 3 years ago
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love wintersun
imagine it with dance beats in the backround though like just counting 1,2,3,4
pure rave
MichelleSomers91 3 years ago
It only can be 1,2,3 because the music is in 3/4 80% of the time :P
DamnedArtm3mis 3 years ago 5
yeah but you know what he meant
also there are many other time signatures in wintersun as well as 3/4
thewikerman 3 years ago
I wouldn't say music is 3/4 80% of the time. Maybe for GOOD musicians like in this video, but not with all the crap out there.
cjk100000 3 years ago
God rock uss all! :) Kaitsu rules,jeah!
juuhaa1 3 years ago
Kai is more musical than 95% of the drummers, he rules!
SinisterSkip 3 years ago 7
haha thats true but the thing is. srumming isnt about being musical its about being rythmic and kai certainly does that. but yeah does he ever like ever fuck up
plopenstien 3 years ago
i have that shirt
\m/
RevolutionDsquad 3 years ago 3
Kaitsu on kiistatta maailman ykkönen :D
Sukis666 3 years ago
vau.. ei oo kontrollista puutetta....
Sukis666 3 years ago
xD My hero
MetalLaker 3 years ago
Fabuloso!!
una verdadera maquina!!! :)
Ojala ver en las Clinicas a reales músikos como él!!
O.o
Misskatidark 3 years ago
Hail Hahto!
Nice playing and nice kit
tb100k 3 years ago
the best drum-player in the world. I'm waiting for the new album of wintersun
DanielShinoda 3 years ago 13
Hahto rocks \,,/
jaqb666 3 years ago 5
On se kova
l337dr 3 years ago 3
olin muute saman päivän DLX:s ku toi soitti siel, mut olin jo ehtiny lähtee enne ku se alotti. oisin jääny jos oisin tienny et se on siel :(
Bahiz 3 years ago
That was amazing clinic! Thanks for that.
maraa112 3 years ago 2
he´s a machine oO
RAPh1945 3 years ago 4
Praise The god :D
MrEnoze 3 years ago 4
this is who you learn from ?
if so hat explains it all lol
EvilMalakaHead 3 years ago 2
siis iha cyber
Bahiz 3 years ago
not bad =D i think u play as well as him ^^
Rodrig0v 3 years ago
Haha, Hahto is God, nobody plays better than him ;)
yrmy666 3 years ago