Introduce the bible at a young age to a failed and confused, homosexual Erich von Däniken, discharge him from the military, fire him from his job and allow him to meet a crazy nurse in a psychiatric hospital and you have Marshall Applewhite. Feed him impressionable people of the likes on youtube that look in to his eyes and see a great man with wise words and you have Heavens Gate. Perfect recipe of ignorance and blind faith, that only religion twisted on aliens can provide.
If you're going to do this kind of shit, become a real monk or nun. At least they get some respect and do things for the community, depending on the order. All these people did was sit inside and get ordered around by a fruitcake in a purple robe.
why would they help the community if they believe their values are corrupt. Apparently their community service was to bring people out of the so called corrupt society.
World population - 39 mentally defective members of human species... don't see anything wrong pr sad with it, in fact it's a good thing, as their elimination cut their line of ideas and more importantly their unfit existence... artificial selection in action, marvellous... wish there were more of them, perhaps all religious ppl... the world would've been a better place now...
Beam me up Scotty. This planet sux :P Im still looking for one of those ancient stargates with optimum ZPM so that i can gate to the Destiny after it pops outta FTL XD Seriously, whatta shame..These religious cults ae nothin but bad news..Who can 4get Jonestown with 900+ suicides..
Ok once again as I mentioned in part 1. At 5:05 to 5:11, notice the cult members face. It twists and contorts like a mentally unbalanced person. If this T fellow had any power, it was to give gullible people down syndrome.
@DJSexLeopard it was probably more to avoid any unnecessary searches or nosy neighborly interest in why so many people were living together at once and what they could be doing in there. Only a few people worked at a time, and with a non-materialistic life and communal use of money, it was easy to afford a nice house. They lived at a campground in tents for most of the second half of the 1970's.
they were very wise...do you have aslight idea how much they increased the average level of intelligence in this planet? And this simply by committing suicide!
Applewhite was gay which he hated. So he banned anything to do with sex, so he did not have to show his homosexuality to his people. This man was an out and out Bastard.
Human sexuality as with animals is a normal part of life... it is a normal part of human existence their is nothing shameful or limited about it..... there is no shame to think about it or have thoughts of or about sex itself ... it is normal..... it is a choice yes but it is normal.... human evolution is how we all came to be...
@ogrebattle22763 Correct. But Heaven's Gate thought that they were members of the kingdom above humans, meaning that they where not human. They tried to give up all normal human behaviours, such as sexuality.
@ogrebattle22763 Just for the record. Ti and Do's first language was that they were the teachers of a process they called Human Individual Metamorphosis. Later they said we were like applicants to their astronaut training program to work in a above human laboratory. Religions, all of them are simply the human lack of understanding this true nature. The term heaven really means stars, and the stars are the environment of these nomadic beings with physcal non mammalian bodies. They hate religion.
@ogrebattle22763 Yes, but we are also built to evolve beyond human & behaviors go with. It's like a dog; while it's in the wild (coyote or wolf), it runs with the pack, mates with whom it chooses, chews up whatever and craps whereever, perfectly normal. But for the canine that is taken inside a human's home, the master won't keep them there if they don't adapt to the rules. The Next Level members have no sexuality so we need to while still human prove we can do without it to gain membership.
My focus of the next level will be when I die... When all of us die where we go is a mystery.... no one knows where we go or what becomes of us... this is a proven fact know one knows anything about life after death... there is no proof of any type of existence after we die...
Notice how Do asked Michael if he wanted to visit his family? This was years after we each paid two weekend visits to whoever we wanted. Ti Do bought us all plane tickets to where we wanted to go and at any time during those visits we could have just stayed there. One can say we were all so brainwashed that we wouldn't have been able to snap out of it that fast but then why were we able to snap out of it afterwards. What kind of cult temps it's members to leave? Do offerred $1,000 to leave once.
Lee Ann said she used to bash herself in the head in the bathroom because she wasn't perfect. Ti and Do would have never approved of that. This wasn't a self hate program though the vehicle needed to become the slave of our own mind under the direction of the teachers who told us how and why. It was a Luciferian discarnate that was causing Lee Ann be intolerant of herself. Ti & Do didn't ever pressure me for that kind of perfection and I doubt they did to her. Sure they did prod us to do better.
When I said, we hoped someone would take a gun to blow us away, our vehicles so we could return to the Level Above Human, I was still in a spiritual state of mind of thinking the martyrdom was the ultimate show of faith in God, though Ti and Do always said this was not a martyrdom trip. My motivation was that I thought it elevated ME to die for God so I wasn't really doing it for the Kingdom of God the representative I believed was Do (and still do).
Michael says the "slippage" exposures and guilt at having slipped were enough "to keep them in check" as if it was a control mechanism and it was but don't forget it was voluntary. Being there was saying to Ti and Do, help me overcome these characteristics. For instance I knew before I joined that sexuality must go. I didn't have to hear Ti Do tell me that. So yes, we all needed help with techniques to keep our vehicles under our control. Ti Do were the teachers. We all knew where the door was.
I am sawyer & know all these people. Michael said Do was paranoid but wouldn't he had been if he had investigators, parents, siblings, etc. after him and/or his students, looking to hault their operation. Since Michael admits to not believing in who Ti & Do were then rather than equating Do's actions with what Jesus would have had to do to escape all who hated him, he sees Do as paranoid like it's a mental disorder, perhaps how Michael thinks of him so understood but that doesn't make it so.
@3spm That's correct... but if Michael believes a certain thing about Applewhite then that's his belief & Irespect his belief just as you want those to respect yours... yes he may not be right & what he says may not be so but then what you say may not be so either.... it's not a one way street or is it?
@ogrebattle22763 Given, you don't know for sure who is speaking what is most true and real as each person tends to think their view is the most accurate. However, I am not giving opinions. In a court of law I have Robert Balch's independent testimony that Do's writings in 88update were correct and the testimony of crlody1 who was with Do in 1994 and me, who heard Do tell the story maybe 2-3 times over 19 years. (in 88update by the do says not a day went by that he didnt' question his own sanity.
A hell of a lot more people have killed themselves and other people due to the teachings of Jesus. Heaven's Gate only led to 39 deaths, not much of a death cult when compared to Christianity and Islam.
@CrimeKittehs NO THEY HAVENT! IF CHRISTIANS KILLED THEM SELVES THEY NEVER BELONG TO THE LORD BECAUSE HIS SHEEP KNOW IS VOICE (JOHN 10:27) JESUS TEACHES: I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly." (John 10:10) what part of that do you commit suicide on! if God talks about living life to the fullest and the devil is trying to take you out..then guess who they are following..yep thats right the DEVIL. so b4 you open ur mouth know facts u blind fool!
@1kaitae But how did Jesus define LIFE. It wasn't life of the body he was talking to. Not seeking the Father's will, according to jesus was suicide in that the soul will eventually die in the recycling. Jesus said about his turning himself into those he knew wanted to kill him, the jewish high priests, that "no man takes [my life] from me...I LAY it down...for my Father. Now his disciples if they believed were commissioned to tell others and Jesus knew that would get most of them killed.
@1kaitae When you know your choice will get you killed then when you continue to exercise that choice and it results in your death, it's because you were willing to sacrifice your life for that choice. A fireman running into a burning building doesn't want to die but they know it's possible, so they have accepted their sacrifice, which Jesus said was one example of the greatest love we could have for one another and ultimately for God, to be willing to die for God in God's time.
@1kaitae That's not to say anyone who kills themselves or is willing to die for another is doing so for God. If someone sees the WTC attack and decides they want to join the military to try to get who did that &/or prevent it from happening again, so they jusify killing who they are sent to kill and those that they consider collateral damage, are they doing it for God? They may think so, but does that make it so? Of course if we don't want to see differences we won't. Ti & Do were very unique.
@3spm Michael said something that tells me this is all about mind control @ the 7:00 mark he said it was designed so that no one could think for themselves.... & @ the 7:34 mark Lee Ann Wolfe says we weren't here to be brainwashed we were begging to be brainwashed? Hmmmm... mind control....
@CrimeKittehs Also, think of all those who killed others in the name of seeking power, waterways, oil, tin, gold, rubber, sugar, cocaine, poppy, on and on and on. Now many of these associated with this or that religion but saying the words of a religion doesn't make someone act in accordance with the founder of said religion. Bush was religious. Hitler said he was acting on God's behalf. Jesus and Buddha were anti killing others. Killing self is not murder, taking away anothers option to live.
@KennyYoung666 thats really crazy you said that im a dj and ive also been introduced to ppl with alot of these same beliefs if you see this message please reply
I actually knew some of these people. Got introduced to them by a record company executive in Los Angel in 1988. UFOs, channelling, sacred geometry. Far out, but loose in terms of solid foundations. I did not stick around. Freedom is certainly a priority in my life. In every way
@BatALash Religions are human distortions of what the Next Level originally instigated. Sex for humans is normal but really for procreation as with all the animals. Humans were designed with the choice to cease sex in which case they begin to show readiness to move into a more evolved level of physical life that's no longer cyclically limited. They don't die so they don't need to make new bodies.
i just don't understand how mentally stable people can really believe the crap fed to them by two twats, she even dies, so he "do" makes up more crap and they believe it, they follow him to their deaths, it's always the crazy fuckers giving the orders.
Ti and Do, gimme a fucking break! Run Run Run away!
stalbansrecords 3 weeks ago
If only they had the internet back then....they would have been saved. :)
Licmycat 4 weeks ago
they all had mental illnesses. jim jones, manson, see the pattern?
BuckchildMusicOnline 4 weeks ago
so very sad.
arkhangelsk 4 weeks ago
Looks like all the men were forced to have mullets.
backpackcamera 1 month ago 3
COOKOO COOKOO COOKOO COOKOO!!!!
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Introduce the bible at a young age to a failed and confused, homosexual Erich von Däniken, discharge him from the military, fire him from his job and allow him to meet a crazy nurse in a psychiatric hospital and you have Marshall Applewhite. Feed him impressionable people of the likes on youtube that look in to his eyes and see a great man with wise words and you have Heavens Gate. Perfect recipe of ignorance and blind faith, that only religion twisted on aliens can provide.
ghpink 2 months ago
If you're going to do this kind of shit, become a real monk or nun. At least they get some respect and do things for the community, depending on the order. All these people did was sit inside and get ordered around by a fruitcake in a purple robe.
ronronronronrooooon 2 months ago 8
@ronronronronrooooon That about sums it up!!!! What a bunch of WHACK-JOBS!!!!
turbinexman 1 month ago
@ronronronronrooooon
why would they help the community if they believe their values are corrupt. Apparently their community service was to bring people out of the so called corrupt society.
gplus46 7 hours ago
After reading some of these, lame comments, I really start to wonder who the real sheeple are...
166john166 2 months ago
NOW THIS PEOPLE WAS AND ARE SICK..LOL...ROTFLMAO
dimpsey3 2 months ago
at least they didnt have kids so i guess good for them lol
Zirc0nium69 2 months ago
GOOD PARENTING lady.
1Beaker2 3 months ago
jonestown was in 1978
BigDiesel1989 3 months ago
World population - 39 mentally defective members of human species... don't see anything wrong pr sad with it, in fact it's a good thing, as their elimination cut their line of ideas and more importantly their unfit existence... artificial selection in action, marvellous... wish there were more of them, perhaps all religious ppl... the world would've been a better place now...
SonOfCyrusTheGreat 3 months ago
That ex female member is strangely attractive.......
Serpchit 3 months ago
Beam me up Scotty. This planet sux :P Im still looking for one of those ancient stargates with optimum ZPM so that i can gate to the Destiny after it pops outta FTL XD Seriously, whatta shame..These religious cults ae nothin but bad news..Who can 4get Jonestown with 900+ suicides..
crazeeborg 3 months ago
david just needed a good ass whooping from his dad and his mom to set him straight
nilima77 4 months ago
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the stupidity of some people never fails to amaze me.
23Henrich 4 months ago
Ok once again as I mentioned in part 1. At 5:05 to 5:11, notice the cult members face. It twists and contorts like a mentally unbalanced person. If this T fellow had any power, it was to give gullible people down syndrome.
evildnalor 4 months ago
this seems similar to scientology.. like all the 'levels'
nikki5790 4 months ago
@DJSexLeopard it was probably more to avoid any unnecessary searches or nosy neighborly interest in why so many people were living together at once and what they could be doing in there. Only a few people worked at a time, and with a non-materialistic life and communal use of money, it was easy to afford a nice house. They lived at a campground in tents for most of the second half of the 1970's.
TheDragonCult 4 months ago
they were very wise...do you have aslight idea how much they increased the average level of intelligence in this planet? And this simply by committing suicide!
ossobuco888 4 months ago
Applewhite was gay which he hated. So he banned anything to do with sex, so he did not have to show his homosexuality to his people. This man was an out and out Bastard.
The24547377 4 months ago
Human sexuality as with animals is a normal part of life... it is a normal part of human existence their is nothing shameful or limited about it..... there is no shame to think about it or have thoughts of or about sex itself ... it is normal..... it is a choice yes but it is normal.... human evolution is how we all came to be...
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
@ogrebattle22763 Correct. But Heaven's Gate thought that they were members of the kingdom above humans, meaning that they where not human. They tried to give up all normal human behaviours, such as sexuality.
LarvaaB 5 months ago
@LarvaaB It's disturbing & I don't believe in it or anything about it I am ANTI - RELIGION period...
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
@ogrebattle22763 Just for the record. Ti and Do's first language was that they were the teachers of a process they called Human Individual Metamorphosis. Later they said we were like applicants to their astronaut training program to work in a above human laboratory. Religions, all of them are simply the human lack of understanding this true nature. The term heaven really means stars, and the stars are the environment of these nomadic beings with physcal non mammalian bodies. They hate religion.
3spm 5 months ago
@ogrebattle22763 Yes, but we are also built to evolve beyond human & behaviors go with. It's like a dog; while it's in the wild (coyote or wolf), it runs with the pack, mates with whom it chooses, chews up whatever and craps whereever, perfectly normal. But for the canine that is taken inside a human's home, the master won't keep them there if they don't adapt to the rules. The Next Level members have no sexuality so we need to while still human prove we can do without it to gain membership.
3spm 5 months ago
My focus of the next level will be when I die... When all of us die where we go is a mystery.... no one knows where we go or what becomes of us... this is a proven fact know one knows anything about life after death... there is no proof of any type of existence after we die...
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
Notice how Do asked Michael if he wanted to visit his family? This was years after we each paid two weekend visits to whoever we wanted. Ti Do bought us all plane tickets to where we wanted to go and at any time during those visits we could have just stayed there. One can say we were all so brainwashed that we wouldn't have been able to snap out of it that fast but then why were we able to snap out of it afterwards. What kind of cult temps it's members to leave? Do offerred $1,000 to leave once.
3spm 5 months ago
Lee Ann said she used to bash herself in the head in the bathroom because she wasn't perfect. Ti and Do would have never approved of that. This wasn't a self hate program though the vehicle needed to become the slave of our own mind under the direction of the teachers who told us how and why. It was a Luciferian discarnate that was causing Lee Ann be intolerant of herself. Ti & Do didn't ever pressure me for that kind of perfection and I doubt they did to her. Sure they did prod us to do better.
3spm 5 months ago
When I said, we hoped someone would take a gun to blow us away, our vehicles so we could return to the Level Above Human, I was still in a spiritual state of mind of thinking the martyrdom was the ultimate show of faith in God, though Ti and Do always said this was not a martyrdom trip. My motivation was that I thought it elevated ME to die for God so I wasn't really doing it for the Kingdom of God the representative I believed was Do (and still do).
3spm 5 months ago
Michael says the "slippage" exposures and guilt at having slipped were enough "to keep them in check" as if it was a control mechanism and it was but don't forget it was voluntary. Being there was saying to Ti and Do, help me overcome these characteristics. For instance I knew before I joined that sexuality must go. I didn't have to hear Ti Do tell me that. So yes, we all needed help with techniques to keep our vehicles under our control. Ti Do were the teachers. We all knew where the door was.
3spm 5 months ago
I am sawyer & know all these people. Michael said Do was paranoid but wouldn't he had been if he had investigators, parents, siblings, etc. after him and/or his students, looking to hault their operation. Since Michael admits to not believing in who Ti & Do were then rather than equating Do's actions with what Jesus would have had to do to escape all who hated him, he sees Do as paranoid like it's a mental disorder, perhaps how Michael thinks of him so understood but that doesn't make it so.
3spm 5 months ago
@3spm That's correct... but if Michael believes a certain thing about Applewhite then that's his belief & Irespect his belief just as you want those to respect yours... yes he may not be right & what he says may not be so but then what you say may not be so either.... it's not a one way street or is it?
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
@ogrebattle22763 Given, you don't know for sure who is speaking what is most true and real as each person tends to think their view is the most accurate. However, I am not giving opinions. In a court of law I have Robert Balch's independent testimony that Do's writings in 88update were correct and the testimony of crlody1 who was with Do in 1994 and me, who heard Do tell the story maybe 2-3 times over 19 years. (in 88update by the do says not a day went by that he didnt' question his own sanity.
3spm 5 months ago
@3spm That's interesting....
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
@3spm My name is Tomas by the way....
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
A hell of a lot more people have killed themselves and other people due to the teachings of Jesus. Heaven's Gate only led to 39 deaths, not much of a death cult when compared to Christianity and Islam.
CrimeKittehs 6 months ago 2
@CrimeKittehs NO THEY HAVENT! IF CHRISTIANS KILLED THEM SELVES THEY NEVER BELONG TO THE LORD BECAUSE HIS SHEEP KNOW IS VOICE (JOHN 10:27) JESUS TEACHES: I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly." (John 10:10) what part of that do you commit suicide on! if God talks about living life to the fullest and the devil is trying to take you out..then guess who they are following..yep thats right the DEVIL. so b4 you open ur mouth know facts u blind fool!
1kaitae 5 months ago
@1kaitae But how did Jesus define LIFE. It wasn't life of the body he was talking to. Not seeking the Father's will, according to jesus was suicide in that the soul will eventually die in the recycling. Jesus said about his turning himself into those he knew wanted to kill him, the jewish high priests, that "no man takes [my life] from me...I LAY it down...for my Father. Now his disciples if they believed were commissioned to tell others and Jesus knew that would get most of them killed.
3spm 5 months ago
@1kaitae When you know your choice will get you killed then when you continue to exercise that choice and it results in your death, it's because you were willing to sacrifice your life for that choice. A fireman running into a burning building doesn't want to die but they know it's possible, so they have accepted their sacrifice, which Jesus said was one example of the greatest love we could have for one another and ultimately for God, to be willing to die for God in God's time.
3spm 5 months ago
@1kaitae That's not to say anyone who kills themselves or is willing to die for another is doing so for God. If someone sees the WTC attack and decides they want to join the military to try to get who did that &/or prevent it from happening again, so they jusify killing who they are sent to kill and those that they consider collateral damage, are they doing it for God? They may think so, but does that make it so? Of course if we don't want to see differences we won't. Ti & Do were very unique.
3spm 5 months ago
@3spm Michael said something that tells me this is all about mind control @ the 7:00 mark he said it was designed so that no one could think for themselves.... & @ the 7:34 mark Lee Ann Wolfe says we weren't here to be brainwashed we were begging to be brainwashed? Hmmmm... mind control....
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
@CrimeKittehs Also, think of all those who killed others in the name of seeking power, waterways, oil, tin, gold, rubber, sugar, cocaine, poppy, on and on and on. Now many of these associated with this or that religion but saying the words of a religion doesn't make someone act in accordance with the founder of said religion. Bush was religious. Hitler said he was acting on God's behalf. Jesus and Buddha were anti killing others. Killing self is not murder, taking away anothers option to live.
3spm 5 months ago
I feel bad for David's mom; I bet it was hard for her when he left, after his home visit...
porgynbess 6 months ago
@FatJesusSD See it's talk like that that turns good cops in complete assholes. I'd rather they kill themselves then to kill other people.
CrimesonWitcher 6 months ago
hmm, don't do things that are classified "too human"... eating and shitting..!!!!
must have been a pisser goin' to sleep at night with those sins on your shoulders.. haha..
yelherf 6 months ago
shit, i still jerk off over that girl in the shower
RatchetSouth 6 months ago
This happens if you let your kids watch too much Star Trek ;)
If they are still alive
Good luck on Hale bopp
kzmcblu 8 months ago
I remember my first sexual slippage. It was awesome.
arthuronfacebook 9 months ago 2
@KennyYoung666 thats really crazy you said that im a dj and ive also been introduced to ppl with alot of these same beliefs if you see this message please reply
lbsfinest1 9 months ago
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@TheFreemasonSuck I never said that, idiot.
BatALash 9 months ago
I actually knew some of these people. Got introduced to them by a record company executive in Los Angel in 1988. UFOs, channelling, sacred geometry. Far out, but loose in terms of solid foundations. I did not stick around. Freedom is certainly a priority in my life. In every way
KennyYoung666 10 months ago
these people are so fucking stupid i consider this to be a comedy rather than a documentary!
bikegirl2 11 months ago
A religion with no sex?! What's the point in living, then? Oh.....right.....
BatALash 11 months ago 48
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StanBennet 6 months ago
@StanBennet repeat joke fail.
BatALash 6 months ago
@BatALash Religions are human distortions of what the Next Level originally instigated. Sex for humans is normal but really for procreation as with all the animals. Humans were designed with the choice to cease sex in which case they begin to show readiness to move into a more evolved level of physical life that's no longer cyclically limited. They don't die so they don't need to make new bodies.
3spm 5 months ago
@3spm What?
ogrebattle22763 5 months ago
weird parents love their weird little man boy
MarcfromTreasureNet1 1 year ago
natural selection, the stupid removing themselves from the gene pool.
whitedonkeykong 1 year ago 43
@whitedonkeykong Some of them left kids behind. :-\ LOL though!!
bettescorpio 1 year ago
they looks very happy!
juanvodka23 1 year ago
God these people are weird.
CylindersCrystal121 1 year ago
Fuck this, none of my kids would be doing stupid shit like this even if i had to lock them up and read the bible properly.
carlstss 1 year ago
i just don't understand how mentally stable people can really believe the crap fed to them by two twats, she even dies, so he "do" makes up more crap and they believe it, they follow him to their deaths, it's always the crazy fuckers giving the orders.
jackglen666 1 year ago 2
@jackglen666
brainwashing can do amazing things.
need to catch the people at the right moment though.
lildread1 1 year ago
@jackglen666 Yeah, nobody in there right mind would listen to these bunch of nut jobs.
SimzySays420 1 year ago