@heroikrobb&jneill: yes i can truly speak about procedures not available. years ago, the prolifers made it impossible for women to have d&c procedures in the hospital due to their paranoia abou abortion. now women have to travel to a city or out of province for this medically necessary procedure which may help save a women's life by proving cancer cells in a women.
what other medical procedures that can save women's lives will be sacrificed?
hmmm, does the tissue have fingers & toes? Does it have DNA? I bet its fingerprints distinguish it just like its DNA shows it is HUMAN. You poor misled libs have been dumbed down so much you can't see the TRUTH!! I pray for your enlightenment & Salvation!
Fingerprints don't make a hell of a difference. Fingers and toes have tissue, but not the other way around. Your lackluster knowledge of anatomy and physiology proves pro-life isn't fully capable of standing ground on their argument. We're not dumb, we're actually open minded to an extent and realize that right now the fetus is incapable of life until it is born. Just because something lives does not mean it is worthy of the quality of personhood.
PP & NARAL actually discourage their members from debating and engaging in conversation w pro-life people. If abortion is based on truth, wouldn't they encourage their supporters to try to convert? Instead, it's the other way around. They are afraid, if their supporters question the organization and abortion, they will no longer be pro-choice based on the truthful arguments they are presented with.
Forgot to mention, in Hodari's dumpster, "product of conception tissues" were found in some of the bunched up gauze and soaker pads (all drenched in blood)
The fetal "tissues" included a hazel-colored eye ball, two feet, one entire leg attached to half of a pelvis, a hand and arm attached to half a rib cage, intestines, lower half of a jaw and tongue.
From the picture, the tissues look "human" to me and don't really look like they were part of a mother's body.
Hodari needs to be locked up...he is a terrible representation of the medical community. You know there are honest medical professionals with good records out there...but my sympathies for what you experienced.
Actually put that way... I'm a big piece of tissue... and if I'm unwanted by you, should I be aborted at 29yrs old?
Not open minded, but a follower. What type of research/investigation have u done on your own to disprove the arguements of pro-lifers.
Cause actually our arguments are quite strong because they are the truth. While pro-choice arguements are based off of emotionally charged propaganda. They point fingers and call names that's how they fight back, always distorting the truth.
Better yet, play devil's advocate and try to prove the pro-choice argument wrong, u will b VERY suprised w the out come.
Next Planned Parenthood fundraising letter, pick it apart. Do research on the people they bad mouth, get the real story. They point fingers 2 take the attention away from themselves.
Forgot to add that the abortionist was also caught throwing away patient records (contained full names, birthdays, addresses, insurance info, age of fetus, type of abortion, and other info of his patients) in the trash along with the USED canuli that are shoved through the cervix into the uterus to suck the fetus apart, the gauze to pack bleeding uteruses, the blue soaker pads put under the woman to catch her blood, and even the laminaras used to force the cervix to dialate.
I thought science proves that life begins at conception?
That's a lie?
Women still die from legal abortion. Clinics are just as back alley now as they've ever been. Do your research. Find out the name of your local abortionist and look at his lawsuits. (Public records can be found in County Courthouse building)
Women also die from giving birth when they never wanted to too. So are we going to just outlaw pregnancy all together because we can't agree? And when do you assume that science has proven that life begins at conception? If people like you do not want to hear about abortions, don't get involved in the issue.
Are we also going to outlaw every medical procedure that puts a person's life at risk? Honestly, it's idiotic along with telling all women how to go along with their reproductive style.
Thing is... you are willing to kill to engage in your choice of reproductive style.
It's my duty as a person who cares about women and children and the equality of all people to get involved. Men used to say, if I beat my wife and kids... It's my choice because I'm the leader of this household... I'm the one in charge so mind your own business! People fighting against slavery were told the same thing, called religious zealots.
My local abortionist, Dr. Hodari, has killed 3 women, Regina Johnson, Chivon Williams, and Tamia Russell (age 15)
Been hit with 50+ lawsuits, which included sexual assault, abortions done on non-pregnant women, many lacerated/punctured uteruses which led to infertility (Women 19, 22, 23yrs), a handful of misdiagnosed ectopic pregnancies (fatal if untreated), live-birth after child aborted, a PPO after he staulked a past employee, has left body parts of fetuses in women.
As best I could tell, good message but so difficult to read couldn't be sure. Please try to re do exposing the lies of the pro life is such an important issue.
When this child comes into the world it will alienate her from her family, destroy her chances college, and rob her of a social life and the prospects of finding a husband. It will also drive her into poverty and cost her money she will barely be able to scrap together.
In other words this child could destroy her life, and I personally believe a life is worth defending. Its her body, her life, and her right to defend it. pro-choice all the way
Thank you for those comments! Not to mention that a teenager that gets pregnant is a victim of statutory rape. We must attend to the teenager (child) first before the unborn child as we have no method of going around the fact we have neglected the victim.
I'm afraid I'll have to politely disagree with on this point.
"Statutory rape" by definition is a 'rape' in name only. A "statute" was drawn up to vilify what might be considered consensual by all rational standards. It depends on the situation. (A 19 yr old girl and a 15 yr old boy consenting to have sex could be considered a rape.)
Statutory rape in the strict sense is only rape because our government says so, not because there were any real victims or damages.
I'm not discriminating but what I am saying is that when an underaged girl is raped, she should seek an abortion if she feels she can handle it. It's child neglect if her parents force her to carry to term, or for anybody in that matter. If she can't handle the pregnancy, by all means, go ahead and abort, she's still a child under legal definition, and under physical circumstances, she has to be tended to first. Her emotional,physical,mental,and social needs have to come first.
I have an idea. How about we help a 16yr old get an abortion (after all her, boyfriend INSISTS she has to get it), so no one has to find out she's prego (including parents), and we CAN'T tell anyone that her 24yr old boyfriend got her pregnant (proof of statutory rape). That way she can continue to be manipulated, abused, and used for sex over and over and over again. Oh wait, that already happened to my friend at Planned Parenthood in Iowa and girls at Planned Parenthoods in CA, IN, and AZ...
This might shock you, but I looked it up one day and the legal age of consent in most states is 16...meaning that a 24 yr could legally have sex with her, with her consent of course.
Is it alarming that some people might actually give teenagers some credit to make their own choices huh?
BTW all of your arguments so far are anti-abortion, but not really anti-choice.
I have a better idea, let's force every girl or woman to go through an unplanned pregnancy and childbirth against their will, even in situations like rape, underage (like 9 or 11!) or dangerous medical complications. That way she can continue to fulfill her sole purpose as a walking breeding machine.
I was that teenager and I almost aborted for those same reasons. But I will tell you something that no one tells us prior to choosing abortion. "You don't know WHO you are getting rid of." People only asume the worst case senario and ASUME the child will destroy our lives. I have friends who did abort for the same reasons. They NEVER were the same. Abortion changes your life. It's not just something you can get over and move on with. You pay with a high price, and can never "undo" that choice.
So did you give your newborn up for adoption or keep it? If you put it up for adoption, you're still aborting it. You forget that an unborn embryo/fetus is still being raised more than it is being carried, since the woman has to obtain nutrients everyday. And the unborn also takes them in everyday. If she were to not take in nutrients, the unborn starves. Hence raising a 'child'.
Why say this? Because adoption is refusing to raise a child and hence is a form of abortion.
It was your choice to carry the pregnancy and go through the childbirth and more power to you. That was your choice and your decision. However, what may have been right for you might not be right for every othe girl or woman and they should be allowed to make that choice for themselves too. I also have friends who've had abortions and none of them regret it. If anything, it was a relief.
How are we pro-lifers responible for the deaths of the children getting aborted just because we shed light on what is really being done? Do not be decieved- showing abortion is not the evil act- abortion itself is the evil act. We're just showing what really goes on. It isn't about women's rights, either. What if the fetus is female? Where are her rights? And also, should prostitution be legalized? It's the woman's body, right?
You're responsible for the deaths of unborn children by proving these acts. You're taking pictures of acts and you had to get them from somewhere. Whether you directly killed them or hired a butcher, you are still responsible for killing them. I'm saying this in your point of view. It's just like how you are trying to convict us of being accomplices of an abortion when we support a woman's choice, the same goes for you bringing up images, otherwise they wouldn't exist.
There's a cute youtube running right now of a 12 year old talking about aborting "children." Sorry, equating a 6 week or 8 week fetus to a child is preposterous, illogical and biologically inaccurate. I'm pro-choice all the way. If a woman knows she cannot provide for a new baby, then safe, legal abortion should be an option, adoption, too, of course.
Girl... Mother Teresa condemned abortion constantly. When invited to speak at the White House during the Clinton Administration she confronted them with: "What is taking place in America," she said, "is a war against the child. And if we accept that the mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another."
"Any country that accepts abortion, is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what it wants."
No wonder Mother Teresa was against abortion.... she was obsessed with 'suffering'. So a woman dieing due to a dangerous pregnancy is right up her ally.
Fetus is latin for "little one". Did people from hundreds of years ago know more than the pro-abortion industry? A fetus is a child in her early stages.
Aren't the strong are supposed to protect and care for the defenseless, the vulnerable? not take it upon themselves to determine who is worthless and who has value? Are not all humans equal?
When we label one class of people as being uworthy of protection, then other classes of people can be grouped with them. (Jews, Africans, elderly...)
Watch the video several times over and get ideas on what I am trying to say. That's how you get the point. When you can point out your weaknesses on your side, then you get the point.
It's the pro-abortion movement that is "anti-choice". They are the ones attacking women who CHOOSE not to abort.
StoogeWatcher 1 month ago
i highly recommend these videosL
women who died before abortion was legal
techniques women used before abortion was legal
abortion: a matter of life and death
heroikrobb you a deep understanding & compassion for women.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@heroikrobb&jneill: yes i can truly speak about procedures not available. years ago, the prolifers made it impossible for women to have d&c procedures in the hospital due to their paranoia abou abortion. now women have to travel to a city or out of province for this medically necessary procedure which may help save a women's life by proving cancer cells in a women.
what other medical procedures that can save women's lives will be sacrificed?
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
I cant read the text in this video :(
sociopathikitty 1 year ago
Dude, stop mumbling along about lies and make your points clear and easy to see.
making your video hard for people to see/understand suggests that you arent confident in your statements. just sayin
mohawksUnItE 2 years ago
hmmm, does the tissue have fingers & toes? Does it have DNA? I bet its fingerprints distinguish it just like its DNA shows it is HUMAN. You poor misled libs have been dumbed down so much you can't see the TRUTH!! I pray for your enlightenment & Salvation!
exrea 2 years ago
Fingerprints don't make a hell of a difference. Fingers and toes have tissue, but not the other way around. Your lackluster knowledge of anatomy and physiology proves pro-life isn't fully capable of standing ground on their argument. We're not dumb, we're actually open minded to an extent and realize that right now the fetus is incapable of life until it is born. Just because something lives does not mean it is worthy of the quality of personhood.
heroikrobb 2 years ago
PP & NARAL actually discourage their members from debating and engaging in conversation w pro-life people. If abortion is based on truth, wouldn't they encourage their supporters to try to convert? Instead, it's the other way around. They are afraid, if their supporters question the organization and abortion, they will no longer be pro-choice based on the truthful arguments they are presented with.
JJNelli 2 years ago
Forgot to mention, in Hodari's dumpster, "product of conception tissues" were found in some of the bunched up gauze and soaker pads (all drenched in blood)
The fetal "tissues" included a hazel-colored eye ball, two feet, one entire leg attached to half of a pelvis, a hand and arm attached to half a rib cage, intestines, lower half of a jaw and tongue.
From the picture, the tissues look "human" to me and don't really look like they were part of a mother's body.
JJNelli 3 years ago
Hodari needs to be locked up...he is a terrible representation of the medical community. You know there are honest medical professionals with good records out there...but my sympathies for what you experienced.
jaynkay100 3 years ago
Actually put that way... I'm a big piece of tissue... and if I'm unwanted by you, should I be aborted at 29yrs old?
Not open minded, but a follower. What type of research/investigation have u done on your own to disprove the arguements of pro-lifers.
Cause actually our arguments are quite strong because they are the truth. While pro-choice arguements are based off of emotionally charged propaganda. They point fingers and call names that's how they fight back, always distorting the truth.
JJNelli 2 years ago
Better yet, play devil's advocate and try to prove the pro-choice argument wrong, u will b VERY suprised w the out come.
Next Planned Parenthood fundraising letter, pick it apart. Do research on the people they bad mouth, get the real story. They point fingers 2 take the attention away from themselves.
JJNelli 2 years ago
Forgot to add that the abortionist was also caught throwing away patient records (contained full names, birthdays, addresses, insurance info, age of fetus, type of abortion, and other info of his patients) in the trash along with the USED canuli that are shoved through the cervix into the uterus to suck the fetus apart, the gauze to pack bleeding uteruses, the blue soaker pads put under the woman to catch her blood, and even the laminaras used to force the cervix to dialate.
JJNelli 3 years ago
Lies?
I thought science proves that life begins at conception?
That's a lie?
Women still die from legal abortion. Clinics are just as back alley now as they've ever been. Do your research. Find out the name of your local abortionist and look at his lawsuits. (Public records can be found in County Courthouse building)
See for yourself.
JJNelli 3 years ago
Women also die from giving birth when they never wanted to too. So are we going to just outlaw pregnancy all together because we can't agree? And when do you assume that science has proven that life begins at conception? If people like you do not want to hear about abortions, don't get involved in the issue.
Are we also going to outlaw every medical procedure that puts a person's life at risk? Honestly, it's idiotic along with telling all women how to go along with their reproductive style.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Thing is... you are willing to kill to engage in your choice of reproductive style.
It's my duty as a person who cares about women and children and the equality of all people to get involved. Men used to say, if I beat my wife and kids... It's my choice because I'm the leader of this household... I'm the one in charge so mind your own business! People fighting against slavery were told the same thing, called religious zealots.
Science proves life begins at conception.
JJNelli 2 years ago
My local abortionist, Dr. Hodari, has killed 3 women, Regina Johnson, Chivon Williams, and Tamia Russell (age 15)
Been hit with 50+ lawsuits, which included sexual assault, abortions done on non-pregnant women, many lacerated/punctured uteruses which led to infertility (Women 19, 22, 23yrs), a handful of misdiagnosed ectopic pregnancies (fatal if untreated), live-birth after child aborted, a PPO after he staulked a past employee, has left body parts of fetuses in women.
JJNelli 3 years ago
As best I could tell, good message but so difficult to read couldn't be sure. Please try to re do exposing the lies of the pro life is such an important issue.
DandDskeeto 3 years ago
I'll add annotations. And in the future I will also do a better job with image selecting and text color.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Full screen it.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
I'll have to agree with you wholeheartedly on that point.
jaynkay100 3 years ago
A teenager gets pregnant.
When this child comes into the world it will alienate her from her family, destroy her chances college, and rob her of a social life and the prospects of finding a husband. It will also drive her into poverty and cost her money she will barely be able to scrap together.
In other words this child could destroy her life, and I personally believe a life is worth defending. Its her body, her life, and her right to defend it. pro-choice all the way
jaynkay100 3 years ago
Thank you for those comments! Not to mention that a teenager that gets pregnant is a victim of statutory rape. We must attend to the teenager (child) first before the unborn child as we have no method of going around the fact we have neglected the victim.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
I'm afraid I'll have to politely disagree with on this point.
"Statutory rape" by definition is a 'rape' in name only. A "statute" was drawn up to vilify what might be considered consensual by all rational standards. It depends on the situation. (A 19 yr old girl and a 15 yr old boy consenting to have sex could be considered a rape.)
Statutory rape in the strict sense is only rape because our government says so, not because there were any real victims or damages.
jaynkay100 3 years ago
I'm not discriminating but what I am saying is that when an underaged girl is raped, she should seek an abortion if she feels she can handle it. It's child neglect if her parents force her to carry to term, or for anybody in that matter. If she can't handle the pregnancy, by all means, go ahead and abort, she's still a child under legal definition, and under physical circumstances, she has to be tended to first. Her emotional,physical,mental,and social needs have to come first.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
I have an idea. How about we help a 16yr old get an abortion (after all her, boyfriend INSISTS she has to get it), so no one has to find out she's prego (including parents), and we CAN'T tell anyone that her 24yr old boyfriend got her pregnant (proof of statutory rape). That way she can continue to be manipulated, abused, and used for sex over and over and over again. Oh wait, that already happened to my friend at Planned Parenthood in Iowa and girls at Planned Parenthoods in CA, IN, and AZ...
JJNelli 3 years ago
This might shock you, but I looked it up one day and the legal age of consent in most states is 16...meaning that a 24 yr could legally have sex with her, with her consent of course.
Is it alarming that some people might actually give teenagers some credit to make their own choices huh?
BTW all of your arguments so far are anti-abortion, but not really anti-choice.
jaynkay100 3 years ago
I have a better idea, let's force every girl or woman to go through an unplanned pregnancy and childbirth against their will, even in situations like rape, underage (like 9 or 11!) or dangerous medical complications. That way she can continue to fulfill her sole purpose as a walking breeding machine.
Karenjadegirl 2 years ago
I was that teenager and I almost aborted for those same reasons. But I will tell you something that no one tells us prior to choosing abortion. "You don't know WHO you are getting rid of." People only asume the worst case senario and ASUME the child will destroy our lives. I have friends who did abort for the same reasons. They NEVER were the same. Abortion changes your life. It's not just something you can get over and move on with. You pay with a high price, and can never "undo" that choice.
JJNelli 3 years ago
So did you give your newborn up for adoption or keep it? If you put it up for adoption, you're still aborting it. You forget that an unborn embryo/fetus is still being raised more than it is being carried, since the woman has to obtain nutrients everyday. And the unborn also takes them in everyday. If she were to not take in nutrients, the unborn starves. Hence raising a 'child'.
Why say this? Because adoption is refusing to raise a child and hence is a form of abortion.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
It was your choice to carry the pregnancy and go through the childbirth and more power to you. That was your choice and your decision. However, what may have been right for you might not be right for every othe girl or woman and they should be allowed to make that choice for themselves too. I also have friends who've had abortions and none of them regret it. If anything, it was a relief.
Karenjadegirl 2 years ago
Ok, I full-screened it. It's total nonsense.
How are we pro-lifers responible for the deaths of the children getting aborted just because we shed light on what is really being done? Do not be decieved- showing abortion is not the evil act- abortion itself is the evil act. We're just showing what really goes on. It isn't about women's rights, either. What if the fetus is female? Where are her rights? And also, should prostitution be legalized? It's the woman's body, right?
livingwaterrevivals 3 years ago
You're responsible for the deaths of unborn children by proving these acts. You're taking pictures of acts and you had to get them from somewhere. Whether you directly killed them or hired a butcher, you are still responsible for killing them. I'm saying this in your point of view. It's just like how you are trying to convict us of being accomplices of an abortion when we support a woman's choice, the same goes for you bringing up images, otherwise they wouldn't exist.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Can't really read the words......
livingwaterrevivals 3 years ago
Use full screen if you can't read, and if you still are having trouble, I will make annotes.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
I did full screen, still not much better any help would be appreciated .................thanks.
DandDskeeto 3 years ago
There's a cute youtube running right now of a 12 year old talking about aborting "children." Sorry, equating a 6 week or 8 week fetus to a child is preposterous, illogical and biologically inaccurate. I'm pro-choice all the way. If a woman knows she cannot provide for a new baby, then safe, legal abortion should be an option, adoption, too, of course.
valnaples 3 years ago
Watch my latest video of Mother Teresa being pro-choice. Even her words are supportive of the pro-choice cause.
heroikrobb 3 years ago
Girl... Mother Teresa condemned abortion constantly. When invited to speak at the White House during the Clinton Administration she confronted them with: "What is taking place in America," she said, "is a war against the child. And if we accept that the mother can kill her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another."
"Any country that accepts abortion, is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what it wants."
JJNelli 2 years ago
No wonder Mother Teresa was against abortion.... she was obsessed with 'suffering'. So a woman dieing due to a dangerous pregnancy is right up her ally.
chibicat13 2 years ago 2
Fetus is latin for "little one". Did people from hundreds of years ago know more than the pro-abortion industry? A fetus is a child in her early stages.
Aren't the strong are supposed to protect and care for the defenseless, the vulnerable? not take it upon themselves to determine who is worthless and who has value? Are not all humans equal?
When we label one class of people as being uworthy of protection, then other classes of people can be grouped with them. (Jews, Africans, elderly...)
JJNelli 2 years ago
What? Could someone make sense of this video? I don't get the point.........
ssbb8674 3 years ago
Watch the video several times over and get ideas on what I am trying to say. That's how you get the point. When you can point out your weaknesses on your side, then you get the point.
heroikrobb 3 years ago