@Mrpragalv Marriage was preferable among same caste in Nepal, but chettri (warrior/administrator)position was already a hybrid group, thats the result of majority of khas not looking aryan and chettri magar not looking mongoloid, brahmin father and non-brahmin mother is already a mixed itself. And people assumed chettri as a caste or ethnicity in nepal rather it was position/status. Same case with thakuri, its a title/position not a ethnicity.
@Mrpragalv the two powerful kingdoms, magar and khas of central and west nepal,few magar and khas assimilate themselves in correspondence kingdom , that would be the reason of presence of magar like thapa in khas kingdom, thus creating cross race marriage. And later, after converting both of them into hindu by brahmin, caste system was introduced, where brahmin held themselves in priest brahmin postion, chettri (1. khas 2. Magar 3.Brahmin father and non-brahmin mother),thakuri(magar and khas)
kuris of central Nepal have Magar ancenstry. Infact some of these thakuris probably still have pure Magar genes and looks 100% like Magars.
So there is offcourse magar blood in Khas and Khas blood in Magars but as a group we r completely different people now. Like I said b4 Magars who converted to Khas r no longer Magars now and has lost thier ancestors culture. It's really refreshing to see people like u who want to reasearch thier ancestor's culture and not some brainwashed theory that they
@Mrpragalv Thapa surname may have existed before khas and magar kingdom,and there was high inter marriage than after hindu caste system, since we lack strong evidence , each claim contrast with each other, but a real technique to know whether they are mixed or not is by their physical structure, dont judge to conclusion just by seeing the dominant character, compare with standard one.A friend of mine khas,abroad was usually assumed to be filipino (mongoloid) which in nepal would look aryan.
@Mrpragalv khas are mountain dwellers, magar are guessed to be huns , but still need more research, Chettri is just a hindu status of warrior/amdnistrator , it is not race or ethnicity. The concept of thapa chettri and thapa magar only started after 1845, Thapa are not khas, they are magar, but two kinds of thapa , one pure, and another mixed with khas. Similarly newar is also not race or ethnicity, its a group of people living in old back days.Described aborigin by british
So saying all bahun and chettri are descendents of kalash people is not true, as like i told some claiming from rajput were later migrants than previous khas,and the other madhesi brahmin and chettri are from bihar,that doesnot make them same with each other.Jung bahadur rana rule has erased many truth which will go against him.Shah used to marry magar and thakuri,if u look old queens they look mongoloid but after rana rule marrying to indian royal family started for kings
@devkotahari dont comment bullshit.all chettry r khas.khas n magar came to this land same time.khas r mentioned in vedic literature.khas were masto worshipper and so magars were of shaman belief.before khas kura(nepali) originated they used to speak iranian dialect mixed with turkic huns(kham magar).this is before baisya n chaubisya rajya.magar n khas adopted hinduism same time.
@devkotahari magar n khas r closest allies but divided because of caste system.before our ancesters adopted hinduism.they used to marry each other.thats why oldies say....khas ko bihe ma magar janti magar ko bihe ma khas janti...thatswhy we r culturally same.
@MrPragalv Hello brother,How r things? Just wanted to clarify things with u. I don't really care who came to Nepal first, Khas/Magar/Kirat or whoever! It pointless arguement.It's called Human migration n happens all the time. It's still Happening now. We r all Nepali now regardless of who came first.
Magar n Khas have never married each other apart from love marriage and not all Khas have Magar origin.Only the Khas who has same name as Magars were originally Magars but they left thier
@MrPragalv ancestor's religon long time ago and are no longer Magars anymore. If you ask them what they are then most of them don't even know thier Magar ancestry and most are ashamed to say they have magar origin because Magars were demoted to 3rd class citizens.
Yes u r right that Magars n Khas in the past were allied in arms.Malla kigdom n the Magar Kingom were the most powerfull Kingdoms at the time n were allies.
@Rebelass74 junge was the main vilian...magar lost there power n wealth after junge came into power n nepali society divided into two parts matwali n tagadhari....magar n khas grew side by side n also they r mixed with each other....if not...why do they have same culture???why dont khas look aryan??khas and magar share atleast 50 surnames.
@MrPragalv Bro, first of all, Magars n Khas do not hve the same culture. Khas as a people r a Indo-Aryan people n Magars r Tibeto-Burmese (Mongoliod) people. If u want to see pure Khas people,then u need to go to Kumoan or Garhwal. Khas or Chettri in Nepal hve many origins.They r pure Khas,Magars who converted to chettri,Brahmins who lost thier status n became chettris n offspring of Brahmin men and local women.All these people became Chettris after unification of Nepal. That's why Nepali Khas
@Rebelass74 the mixture of bahun n mogolian women is given title khatri n hamal...if u think hinduism we follow today is khas culture then ur wrong....it is bahun culture but today mixed with indigenous cultures of khas,magar n kirat...thatswhy it is different then india.
@Rebelass74 khaskura was already dominant in magar kingdom n nepal(newar) kingdom before medieval era...very few magar became chhetri but the majority magars became thakuris...thakuri are magar,khas,gurung people.
@Rebelass74 even genetics of tibetan people have shown they have iranian blood....if u have notices some magar dont look mongoloid...like one of my mama..he is rana magar..like many magar he is tough n sturdy but have few mongoloid feature...he is pure magar not mixed with any aryan race.
@MrPragalv a pure mongoloid people.There is no doubt about that!
When I meant Khas culture, I also meant Bahun culture because in Nepal Bhaun n Chettris r put in the same category but I know they have different origin.
Magars have never, ever adopted anything Islam in our History. Marrying mama chori is the tradition that developed in central Nepal with the Tibeto-burmese communities like Magars/Gurungs/Thakali and Tamangs. It has nothing to so with Islam so u need to lose this theory.
@MrPragalv And it is only Thakuris from central Nepal who marry thier mama choris and these Thakuris r pure Magar Chiefs who converted to rajputs and became Thakuris. The Shah kings were called Khan b4 they changed to Shah and Khan means king in Magarkura. Most magar kings from Mangarant, Sen,kha,kand,khan,shahi,shah adopted the rajput story and became thakuris.
Now lets talk about who r Magars.The clans who r classed as "pure" Magars r Thapa,Ale and Rana Magars. Only these three
@MrPragalv clans speak Magarkura and come from central Nepal which is the homeland of Magars and Magar Kingdoms.It was these three Clans who were in the Prithivi shahs army that united Nepal with Chettris n Gurungs.Magars from western Nepal r Kham and these people r different to Magars as Magars r to Limbus or Rai.
The British would only recruited Gurungs and Magars for the Indian Armys so many Khams from Magar areas like Pun/Garti/Buda/Budathoki started calling themselves Magars n the British
@MrPragalv accepted these 4 clans as Magars.Many other tribes tried to claim to be Magars to join the Indian army but the British would only recruit from these 7 Magar clans and Gurungs. Pun,Garti,Buda,Budathokis don't speak Magarkura but they marry with Magars now and are Magars now. My mother is a Pun n her mother is Budathoki.
So to answer your question, Magars do not share 50 surnames with Khas and has only 7 clans. Some might use thier thars like sinjali etc. So only some Khas and Tha
@MrPragalv are rajputs but If u ask majority of the chettris they will never admit to thier Magar ancestry. Chettris class themseleves superior to Magars and look down apon Magars as sano jhatt.
Although Magars had strong history and relation with Khas B4, Gurungs r the people with the closet culture to Magars now.Gurung and Magars are like brothers from the time of the original Gorkha army to modern day Gurkha army.
Khas and Jung left Magars behind at the bottom after the kot massacre.
@Rebelass74 yes ur right...shah have magar ancestory several historian have claimed but they have been hiding for a long time...now slowly all truth is coming out...shah have blood of khas,madhesi(one shah king married jha bahuni),newar,magar...but,i read in some book that this culture(marrying mamako chori) was given my moghual kings n title shah to ghorkhali rulesrs.
@Rebelass74 several people thinks that drabhya shah won that kingdom by liglig kot race....but actually he became king because of magar n bahuns...khadka magar le rule gareko rajya thiyo gorkha bahun harule tini haru impure raja hun..pure raja huna janai vako shah(thakuri) raja chaincha vanera sab magar harulai vadkako thyo..tehi vayera khadka magar haru ko rajya dubyo ani shah thakuri magar harule pako ho..shah haru gandaki tira ko raja thiyo re.
@Rebelass74 gurung harule magar lai veteko chaubisi rajya vayo pachi matra ho....magar ko culture adopt gareko ho purai...magar haru upperland tira kahile gayenan gurung jasto...mustan ani upperpart tira basne gurung haruko culture purai different cha.
@Rebelass74 i just want to trace my ancestors origin...i dont like caste,religion in politics...like now it is in peak in nepal...magar,baun,khas,kirat,madhese,gurung,sherpa,newar we all are nepali...hope all people will understand this..
@Rebelass74 chhetris are brainwashed by bahuns...thats why majority people dont know there routes n thinks they r superior....one example is junga bahadur rana(kunwar..given by jumala kings....original surname..khadka)...actualy during shah kingdom there was discrimination but now maoist are making them villian among nepali citizen by there crazy propaganda....casteism was practised by (newar)malla,ranas not shahs.
@MrPragalv I agree with you brother, you should always be proud of your culture preserve it but never look down apon others. I like to defend Magars in History of Nepal because we never got credit for it.I never knew how much Magars hve contributed in uniting Nepal because we were never told this in School. All the national heros of Nepal r Khas but Lakhan Thapa is still not given the status yet. I don't hate Khas or Bahuns because it's part of history and shit like this happens all the time but
@MrPragalv this proves that some culture, religion inside Hinduism originated from mongoloid people. aryan stole, incorporated mongoloid culture, religion into Hinduism. historian have said why aryan incorporated mongoloid culture, religion into Hinduism was to bring Mongoloid people into Hindu society. manakamana temple revolves around kul deuta(ancestors worshiping) and not Hindu brahmin, chettri God which came from india. Now got it.
@MrPragalv I want magars to educate on thier historys and be proud of it but also respect other Nepalis including dalits who has had the worst treatment out of all of us and still is. All the tribes of Nepal has lived side by side in harmony for centurys and I hope it satys like this because Nepal is unique.
Mughals never introduced marrying mama's choris to shahs. They have always practiced this,just the tradition they kept from thier magar past and all the temples built by Shah kings hve
@MrPragalv Magar priests and they also scrifice pig (which is Magar symble). Rajputs don't eat pigs and would never adopt Mughul culture because they r firece Hindus and hated the Mughuls.
Take it easy brother and don't ever forget your blood from your mother's side. You have magar blood in you and part of us but we are also one big Nepali Family.
@Rebelass74 yes,i agree magar never get there credit..khas,magar,gurung united nepal but other people think that only khas united nepal because of textbooks...just few months ago i stared reading my history n i knew we were all kept in dark by fake histories....magar n khas were allied from ancient times...shah being magars n we were not chhetris but khas who have our own culture,religion.history...now all truth is opening.
many historian have already verified that shivaism cult ( that resulted in lord shiva) was originally started by Mongoloid people. later the aryan incorporated this idea and started following worshiping of Shiva. later aryan brahmins wrote lord shiva as Hindu god. another example where brahmins have distorted other religion is Buddhism. the aryan brahmins also wrote lord buddha as incarnation of hindu god vishnu. so see some religion in the Hinduism was started by Mongoloid people.
@Rebelass74 bro thapa ko origin chai khas kingdom nai ho....khas king ley aafno soldier lai dine padh ho...magar soldier pani thiey tehi vayera khas ra magarko surname milcha....thapa,basnet,karki etc haru khas kingdom ko buddhist sculptures haruma samet lekheko cha....napatyae dr keshabman shakya ko khas jati ra buddha dharma vanne book padda pani huncha.
@MrPragalv or chettri have different mixed faces but Khas as a people r 100% Indo-Aryans.
I don't why u think Magars n Khas hve the same culture. We look differnt,we marry our mama's chori,we eat pork,our dances r Kaura/Gantu/Sorati,we speak a tibeto-burman langauge. Do khas people do the same? And most importantly we don't marry each other apart from love marriage.
The people who adopted Magar culture n r closet to Magars r Gurungs. U can hardly tell the difference between Magars n Gurungs.
@Rebelass74 marrying mamas choris was culture adopted from muslim....surname SHAH n this culture was give by mouughal king to shah kings...thakuri people also follow that culture....bahun n gurung also share same surnames...do u know once magar kings also adopted rajpoot story n surnames like rana...in magar kingdom...before shah n junge did.
@MrPragalv Whatever the origin of Thapas, all I know is Khas people speak a Indo-Aryan langauge (Nepali) n Magars speak Tibeto-Burman langauge and Thapa is a Tibetan word which means Border.
Also, Thapa Magars r the most numerous of the Magars and they speak Magars along with Rana and Ale magars. Not all Magars speak magarkura.Thapas r regraded as 100% pure Magars in our communities.
The only culture the Khas n Magars share is the Nepali Culture, which is the Khas culture.
@Rebelass74 yes khas n magar r of different origin...but if u want to see real khas culture then go to karnali...in the region of dolpa where no bahun dares to live u can find matwali chettri people who are MASTO worshipper who follows same culture as magar n use magar dhamis an pujari...they dont use thread...drink achohal..share same surnames like basnet,thapa,budathoki,karki,mahat etc but dont have any mongoloid appereance..khas r pure caucosoid n magars r mongoloid
@MrPragalv Well I m glad u agree Magars and Khas have different origin because we r from a different stock although we were very close b4 all that changed when Jung(Khas) put us in bottom of the social ladder even though we were part of the ruling Gorkha army.
Nepal is a melting pot of culture so ofcourse there is going to be mixing of tribes from past. That's why your mama probably doesn't have pure mongoliod features and I also hve family who doesn't look pure magars but magars as a whole r
@Rebelass74 thapa surname originated in khas kingdom...khas even ruled tibet...read(ancient people of tibet)...khas n magar share atlest 50 surnames....are all khas sharing same surname with magar descedents of magar then??in kumaun n garhwal khas r almost extinct...there might be very few but they r comletely indian...because several dynasty ruled over there after khas...khas r related to kushan people.
So the later migrant (brahmin &chettri claiming themselves rajput descendents, like jung bahadur rana (kunwar originally) carried out kot parva and bhandar khal parva, to gain power, and it was after his rise other were limited to few power, first martyr lakhan thapa magar was killed for going against him. The scenario changed, even king was under control of jung bahadur , he made such a law that segregated other caste away from power, but only to his family.And castesystem was peak after that.
@devkotahari claming shah to be of magar ancestry or khas ancestry is both a joke because they themselve claim to be some rajpoot which is completly fake.and so junga bahadur claim to be of rajpoot which is also false.he was kunwar(khas) which was given title by jumli khas kings.to be in power junga bahadur massacred all his opponents even his own uncle.
@devkotahari yea lakhan thapa magar was first martyr.he was one of nepali army unfortunately he was not present during kot parva.his fren general aviman singh rana magar was killed during kot parva.after kotparva whole nepali politics changed.jbr was supported by bahuns n british people thatswhy during rana regime except bahuns n newar all were victims.
As u know there are different type of chettri ,not all chettri are same.Magar were native of nepal, later followed by khas,and due to intermarriage, many khas looks mongoloid or mix in feature, they both were rulers,but after pn shah unified nepal, brahmin and chettri rajputs arrived due muslim expansion in india,and meet khas similar to them,but the main problem for them was the power was not with them,since they were later migrantsbut only to Magar, khas and shah.
@devkotahari dont comment bullshit.u dont know anything.all chhetri r khas.magar n khas grew side by side.khas r mentioned in vedic literatures.khas n magar came to this land same time.before khas kura developed.khas people used to speak iranian dialect mixed with turkic huns(kham magar).all caste of khas developed in khasan.thatswhy khas n magar share same surname,same culture.khas were masto worshipper and so magars were of shaman belief.later our ancesters adopted hinduism.
this doesn't mean gurkhas are hindu it is just showing that gurkhas has respect to all religions and culture. we are nature and earth worshippers more like animism but Gurkha are loyal and respectful so thats y they are singing bhajan.
I told pandit baburambhattarai to go and chant Hare Krishna, Hare Ram but it seems that he had gone to Kashi. For all other Nepalese please chant this sacred mantra;
Om bhur bhuvah svah
tat-savitur varenyam
bhargo devasya dhimahi
dhiyo yo nah pracodayat
Once you done with chanting,
watch this video ==> " KIRATISM: Prayer of Earth And Nature "
May Mother Earth bless and protect us.
This kind of video will bring disaster to Nepal so please refrain from watching it.
He! He!!!!!! vajan chai dammi lagyo.... luv it.. But m wondering N poundering if they have sing this vajan during dasai or what??? Coz this vajan is totally dedicate to kali mata.. I think....lol...
watch the video "the way of the gurkha warrior" and you see a Gurkha with his ceremonial Khukri decapitating the buffalo during the Great Gurkha Festival call Dashera
also watch the video "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship" which explain roots of Hinduism.
Kiratas are the Indo-Mongoloid(Gurkhas) and find refences in Veda, Puranas and epics of ancient aryan text.
Also check video "Sakela~The Greatest Festival of Kirat People"
wat do u mean by they r not hindus..ya afu limbu k afu hindu mandainarah...iam also limbu i worship hindu too...well yaha ko new army dai haru le afno relegion nabhulosh bhanera worship garako ho army camp ko guru haru le...kei januh maan cha bhaney y dont u go and train for army...then tell ur sir ok..
hey sis i m a gurkha already.been in the service for 4 years .if u want to learn religion then go to nepal and please refer a book "vijaypur kalin itihas"written by Imansing Chemjong.
by the way,juz think if u are hindu then why do you have your own culture and language besides other tribesmen.
tara tapai ta lik malai gayera kun book study garnuh lagaunuh bhako cha.,..n ur saying gurkhar not hindus and going to temple during training??malai confuse parnuh huncha...u r also army rahecha tah k tapai hindu hainarah...tapai temple ma pray garnuh januh hunna rah army bhaye patchy huh??ma kina padnuh huh malai jarurat chaina i think u need it cuz ur da 1 whos saying tat gurkhas r not hindus?ani malai kina bhanuh bhako tapaile bhaneko answer ta maile po tapailai bhanuh parney ta dai
@gadhatah you're a fool you put your own custom and tradition beside and fight with your own brother and sis in the name of hinduim which is nothing but the brahmin brought influence in nepal. which people had to forcefully follow. our ancestor kicked p.n shah ass's but you still here influence by his bulsshit refusing to learn our own history. wow our ancestor will be so proud of you well done sis!!
@gadhatah as if you got an identity lol ur saying i'm nobody. go and my channel and look at my uploads views. my aim was to give you some knwoledge but ifyou think this is a lecture than go you can live your self you aren't welcome in our community
still dont know tyo book read garnu ho???j vaye ni sabei manche ko afnei thinking ho ...ballei ho!!!!still book barema infoemtioan dinu vako ma thankx dai...but maile limbu haru ko barema read gareko chu google ma ...hehe ok tc forgot about this conversation in youtube..
@limbuckl i wear glasses. Very poor eyesight from reading too much books and education. That's why i didn't saw your comment properly. Gurkhas actually are NOT Hindus. And Gurkhas do not pray to trickster/magician like Sai Baba, Mata, Ram, Krishna, etc. When Nepal was ruled by Hindu King, he declared Nepal as secular Hindu nation and the Hindu King with his Brahmin ministers tried to bring all other non-Hindu ethnic group into Hindu society through force, conversion and treachery.
@diliprai man i know wat brahmins did in the past but it is not going to help us eradicate problems faced by nepalese. I pray to god that may Nepal be peace and always develop further hand to hand.
@limbuckl Absolutely ,this guy Diliprai is an uneducated chimp ,he is all after race and caste ,he is the one who is trying to break unity of Nepalese ,so it's better guy like diliprai should be flush into the toilet coz he is a germ and virus for our society.
@boxing318 we all know that a taliban commander was beheade by a gurkha. we all know that a gurkha took on 30 talibans by himself. we all know that a lone gurkha killed 4 indian train robbers and chased away the remaining 40 dacoits. now watch this video and see gurkha bruce lee doing his "everybody's kungfu fighting" and emerging as Asian champion.
here's the video ---> Barja Kumar Rai: Kirat hero of Nepal - 11th Asia Full Contact Final
@limbuckl We were Aminist and Shaminist originally but most of us converted to Hindusim. You will find most Magars are Hindus and also Gurungs but some Gurungs and Magars are saying we are Buddist now but we were never Buddist. Gurkhas as a whole are Hindus now but not like Bhauns and Indian Hindus. We are a very flexible Hindus, most of us eat beefs and we only became Hindus because it was the fashion at the time in Nepal. Even your first name is no doubt a Hindu name. .
@limbuckl What?!! Do u mind staying with the topic chief?Is this some sort of riddle I have to solve?I am saying Gurkhas r a multicultural race.we can b Hindus/Buddhist/Kirati/christain whatever.Just because u r not Hindu doesn't mean u can speak 4 the rest of the us.What has aryans n mongolians got to do with this anyway?Ok since u asked,there was no mongolians in gurkhas,we r Tibeto-Burmans n last time i checked the Aryans(germans) strated the war.Indo-aryans maybe?What's yr Point?Make sense!
@Rebelass74 u dont have to solve any riddle my fren.tibeto-burmans race is called mongoloid. i thnk u misunderstood me. n i m talking about majority here my fren. u said
gurkhas r mulitcultural race. in nepal , we only have 2 races.
u said we only became Hindus because it was the fashion at the time in Nepal.
it wasnt fashion my fren, most of the mongoloid or tibeto-burmans(in ur word) were sold n made their religion change to hindu to get them killed in wars.
@limbuckl Thanks for not speaking in riddles but u r still not making sense! Mongolian n Mongoloid hve 2 different meanings and u said Mongolians...which we r not!We r mongoloid! B4 u start acting smart n embarrassing yourself,u need 2 look up the meaning of the word multicultural in the dictionary. In Nepal we don't hve 2 race...we have more than 100 different race/tribes. Gurkhas are Gurung/Magar/Rai/Limbus and also Tamang/Sunwar/Thakuri/Chettris. This my friend makes us a Multicultural race.
@Rebelass74 thanks for ur comment.yes we r mongoloid, in common we say we r mongolian in nepal.n u r e wrong. look for it carefully, race and tribe is two different thing. ani dost, tamang, sunwar , rai are called caste or tribe not race.
please dont embarass urself by being overconfident. if i m wrong , then i will assume the things in the internet and the books i read in school is wrong.
Gurkhas can be of any religion now but in past , they had to be hindu.
@limbuckl Ha Ha!"overconfident"!Is that the best sarcasm u can come up with?U need 2 go back to internet and your school books to find something better.English and Germans r both a Germanic race but they can also be referred to as a different race or tribe.Just like Limbu and Magars r Tibeto-Burman race but we can be called a different race or tribe.In general English terms, race/tribe can mean the same thing. If your English was better,U would hve understood what I meant by Multicultural race.
@limbuckl I could b pedantic like u n say there is Mongoloids/Caucasoid/Negroid and Aborigines.And tribe n Caste r two different things.Caste is the Hindu structure like Brahmins/Kshatriya/Vaishyas/Sudras depending on individual's professions.Tamang/Sunwar/Rai r tribes (genetics).But I know caste/tribe can mean the same thing in Nepali,just like race/tribe can mean the same thing in English.
@limbuckl So "DOST", B4 u start patronising me and educating me on Homo Sapiens, U should improve your english first and learn 2 write in a coherent sentence.U r out of your depth!
Now finally getting back 2 the main subject."Gurkhas can be of any religion now but in past,They had to be Hindu". Again u confuse me.I don't know if u r finding it hard 2 express yourself in english but half of the stuff u say doesn't seem to make sense.R u saying your comment on Gurkhas not being Hindu is Incorrect?
@limbuckl@Rebelass74 don't argue over a petty things. religion is just a spiritual things. we can always change religion unlike our race which we cannot change because we are born with it. many indigenous nepalese became hindus because of influence, coercion and some by force. but today we have the freedom to chose whatever religion we feel is good for us.
watch this video --->MONGOLOID_IN_THE_HIMALAYAS |View from Anthropologist|
and spread message that we have freedom to choose our faith.
@limbuckl Haha!Hilarious!Playing the victim,Classic trick!Never heard so much contradiction in my life.U must hve invented the word.Lets get some facts clear Chief.
1. I don't give a shit about religion,my family/friends and my culture comes b4 religion.I just hate people like u who is always causing trouble by saying Gurkhas/Magars or Kiratis aren't Hindus, we r this n that.I m trying to tell u we can b whatever we like.Religion should not matter.So don't put this on me.U started this shit!
@limbuckl 2. My mother tongue is Nepali and I can understand Magar n Gurung fluently bcause my Gran is Gurung (there goes your arguement out of the window).
3.U don't need a degree on HOMO SAPIENS. Its called common general knowledge. If u don't know it then don't patronise me because u will lose.
4. My whole point 2 u was not to make fuss about religion but since u contradicted yourself,U must hve learned your lesson and yes ALL NEPALESE R EQUAL, so don't ask abouts Aryans fighting in WW2.Peace
@Rebelass74 congratulations in being hindu mate well done, but wait a minute do you know anything about your culture and tradition. do you want me a guy from other caste to tell you that gurung do have animist tamu pye lu culture or you forget. nah nah i mistaken y would you care, you are hindu. down to the the gurung native culture down down magar and kiratis native culture. you fight for your hinduism. one day your son will ask dad what is our gurung's native culture than try to defend mate...
@yomamafool1 B4 you start acting like a smart ass mate u should get your facts straight. I m Magar, not Gurung and I was born a Hindu but I don't give a shit about Hindusim. And I definately don't need a smart ass like u to tell me about my ancester's religion. My ancesters were Aminist and Shamanist but the migrating Brahmins converted us to Hindusim some time in the 12th century.And the Hindusim we practice now is a mixture of aminism and hindusim, different to the one Brahmins practice.
@yomamafool1 And like I said I don't give a shit about religion. Magars can be Hindus/cristain/aminist or whatever. As long as they are Magars, that's what matters. I don't practice Hindusim, I just hate smart asses like you who causes trouble by saying we r not Hindus, we r this and that.
And my son will know about Magar history inside out and difenately won't need u to tell me or him. Trust me bro, U don't know more than me about Magar or Gurkha History. Take it easy!
@Rebelass74 bro, aafno kura clear garne tarika ekdam honest lagyo.....aajkal sab jana baseless kurama biswas garchan reality nabujikana.....jun deshma jaat,dharma lai liyera manche ladchan tyo desh ma kahile santi aaudaina....nepal lai aba burma,ruwanda,sudan,iraq banauna khojdaicha hamro gu khane neta harule...ani mero bau chai thapa(khas) ani mero ama chai rana(magar) ho.
@Rebelass74 manakamana,gorkhali temple ko priest magar ho...phulpati ktm ma lera aaune magar le ho...maghe sankrati magar bta suru va ho...bahun le tetro manakaman ra phupati khosna kosis garera ta sakena.
@MrPragalv it was the brahmins who twisted the story about mankamana and buddha subba temple. both manakhamana and buddha subba temple are headed by magar priest. actually both these templese have no connections with vedic Brahmanical religion(today known as hinduism). But both temples originated from local deity and ancestors worship. later as you know, the brahmins made up a story and said both temples are hindu temple. so hope this help you.
@Rebelass74 u must become the leader of nepalese society in wherever u r (jaat jaat ko nagarau)we need educated ppl like u in nepalese politics.not only giving speech in youtube.
@limbuckl Ha ha! R u still here? This is getting embarrassing now. U hve lost this argument long time ago. Stop beating on a dead horse!
Just for your future reference, u don't need to be religious or be a politican to hve knowledge on the subject.It's called general knowledge or simple education. Maybe u should try it so next time U won't look so desperate n narrow minded. U need to give it up bro,go start a debate with someone else who cares because u r boring me now.
@Rebelass74 yea, i m just alive back to fight wit u. conversation over? we ve not even started yet. answer the questions instead of going left and right. will u
@limbuckl This is my last comment to u.Come back when u can debate with me intellectually because at the moment i feel like I m talking to a little Kid who can't even write in a coherent sentence. U r like a broken record brother, your knowledge of all things n education is limited n u r seriously starting to bore me now!
Good luck in your life n please don't ever contact me again. Go play gocha with your friends because i won't dignify a response no matter what u say.Take it easy bro.
@Rebelass74 I salute u for knowing ur grandmother's language. i don't know my own language. U seem not to care about religion but u r a master in this topic. How come?
@Rebelass74 i know we are mongoloid. mongolians is the term used in general by nepalese (arayan ho ki mongolian ho vancha nepal ma, they dont say aryan ho ki mongoloid ho).ask any nepalese. i ll wait for ur comment.
@limbuckl I don't think u r getting the point I m trying to make! Yes some of us were forced converted n some converted voluntary n yes, the Khas dominated government fucked us up but this is not the topic in discussion. It's a completely different topic. My issue is u said Gurkhas r not Hindus but regardless of what happened B4...Gurkhas NOW in the present day can b Hindus/Buddist/Kirati whatever! All Gurung/Magar villages around my area are Hindus. Are u saying Gurung/Magars aren't Gurkhas?
@Rebelass74 i came across this video today where this american guy visited nepal and had bad impression of nepal. he said that Nepalis worships cow.
watch this video --> /watch?v=VReFeVqt1VI
or titled "Nepal worships cows "
now can you explain to him that not all nepalis worship cows. it's like saying all nepalis are gurkhas. or all nepalis are Maoist. or better all nepalis support indian. thanks
@Rebelass74 Absolutely ,this guy Diliprai is an uneducated chimp ,he is all after race and caste ,he is the one who is trying to break unity of Nepalese ,so it's better guy like diliprai should be flush into the toilet coz he is a germ and virus for our society.
@Rebelass74 you are partly right and partly wrong.
In those days, the Rana made a dealings with the British. That any non-hindu ethnic group who are enlisted in the british army has to accept hinduism. the rana also made a deal that at least a hindu brahmin pandit pujari is always station with the gurkha. this way the brahmin pandit pujari had big impact, influence on the non-hindu ethnic nepalese. that's why magurali just accepted Hinduism as part and parcel of their lives.
@Mrpragalv Marriage was preferable among same caste in Nepal, but chettri (warrior/administrator)position was already a hybrid group, thats the result of majority of khas not looking aryan and chettri magar not looking mongoloid, brahmin father and non-brahmin mother is already a mixed itself. And people assumed chettri as a caste or ethnicity in nepal rather it was position/status. Same case with thakuri, its a title/position not a ethnicity.
devkotahari 2 months ago
@Mrpragalv the two powerful kingdoms, magar and khas of central and west nepal,few magar and khas assimilate themselves in correspondence kingdom , that would be the reason of presence of magar like thapa in khas kingdom, thus creating cross race marriage. And later, after converting both of them into hindu by brahmin, caste system was introduced, where brahmin held themselves in priest brahmin postion, chettri (1. khas 2. Magar 3.Brahmin father and non-brahmin mother),thakuri(magar and khas)
devkotahari 2 months ago
kuris of central Nepal have Magar ancenstry. Infact some of these thakuris probably still have pure Magar genes and looks 100% like Magars.
So there is offcourse magar blood in Khas and Khas blood in Magars but as a group we r completely different people now. Like I said b4 Magars who converted to Khas r no longer Magars now and has lost thier ancestors culture. It's really refreshing to see people like u who want to reasearch thier ancestor's culture and not some brainwashed theory that they
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Mrpragalv Thapa surname may have existed before khas and magar kingdom,and there was high inter marriage than after hindu caste system, since we lack strong evidence , each claim contrast with each other, but a real technique to know whether they are mixed or not is by their physical structure, dont judge to conclusion just by seeing the dominant character, compare with standard one.A friend of mine khas,abroad was usually assumed to be filipino (mongoloid) which in nepal would look aryan.
devkotahari 2 months ago
@devkotahari majority of khas dont look aryan.....why is that???
MrPragalv 2 months ago
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@Mrpragalv khas are mountain dwellers, magar are guessed to be huns , but still need more research, Chettri is just a hindu status of warrior/amdnistrator , it is not race or ethnicity. The concept of thapa chettri and thapa magar only started after 1845, Thapa are not khas, they are magar, but two kinds of thapa , one pure, and another mixed with khas. Similarly newar is also not race or ethnicity, its a group of people living in old back days.Described aborigin by british
devkotahari 2 months ago
So saying all bahun and chettri are descendents of kalash people is not true, as like i told some claiming from rajput were later migrants than previous khas,and the other madhesi brahmin and chettri are from bihar,that doesnot make them same with each other.Jung bahadur rana rule has erased many truth which will go against him.Shah used to marry magar and thakuri,if u look old queens they look mongoloid but after rana rule marrying to indian royal family started for kings
devkotahari 3 months ago
@devkotahari dont comment bullshit.all chettry r khas.khas n magar came to this land same time.khas r mentioned in vedic literature.khas were masto worshipper and so magars were of shaman belief.before khas kura(nepali) originated they used to speak iranian dialect mixed with turkic huns(kham magar).this is before baisya n chaubisya rajya.magar n khas adopted hinduism same time.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@devkotahari magar n khas r closest allies but divided because of caste system.before our ancesters adopted hinduism.they used to marry each other.thats why oldies say....khas ko bihe ma magar janti magar ko bihe ma khas janti...thatswhy we r culturally same.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@MrPragalv Hello brother,How r things? Just wanted to clarify things with u. I don't really care who came to Nepal first, Khas/Magar/Kirat or whoever! It pointless arguement.It's called Human migration n happens all the time. It's still Happening now. We r all Nepali now regardless of who came first.
Magar n Khas have never married each other apart from love marriage and not all Khas have Magar origin.Only the Khas who has same name as Magars were originally Magars but they left thier
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@MrPragalv ancestor's religon long time ago and are no longer Magars anymore. If you ask them what they are then most of them don't even know thier Magar ancestry and most are ashamed to say they have magar origin because Magars were demoted to 3rd class citizens.
Yes u r right that Magars n Khas in the past were allied in arms.Malla kigdom n the Magar Kingom were the most powerfull Kingdoms at the time n were allies.
Thapa is a Pure Magar name n means Border.
Yes it's true that
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 junge was the main vilian...magar lost there power n wealth after junge came into power n nepali society divided into two parts matwali n tagadhari....magar n khas grew side by side n also they r mixed with each other....if not...why do they have same culture???why dont khas look aryan??khas and magar share atleast 50 surnames.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv Bro, first of all, Magars n Khas do not hve the same culture. Khas as a people r a Indo-Aryan people n Magars r Tibeto-Burmese (Mongoliod) people. If u want to see pure Khas people,then u need to go to Kumoan or Garhwal. Khas or Chettri in Nepal hve many origins.They r pure Khas,Magars who converted to chettri,Brahmins who lost thier status n became chettris n offspring of Brahmin men and local women.All these people became Chettris after unification of Nepal. That's why Nepali Khas
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 the mixture of bahun n mogolian women is given title khatri n hamal...if u think hinduism we follow today is khas culture then ur wrong....it is bahun culture but today mixed with indigenous cultures of khas,magar n kirat...thatswhy it is different then india.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 khaskura was already dominant in magar kingdom n nepal(newar) kingdom before medieval era...very few magar became chhetri but the majority magars became thakuris...thakuri are magar,khas,gurung people.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 even genetics of tibetan people have shown they have iranian blood....if u have notices some magar dont look mongoloid...like one of my mama..he is rana magar..like many magar he is tough n sturdy but have few mongoloid feature...he is pure magar not mixed with any aryan race.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv a pure mongoloid people.There is no doubt about that!
When I meant Khas culture, I also meant Bahun culture because in Nepal Bhaun n Chettris r put in the same category but I know they have different origin.
Magars have never, ever adopted anything Islam in our History. Marrying mama chori is the tradition that developed in central Nepal with the Tibeto-burmese communities like Magars/Gurungs/Thakali and Tamangs. It has nothing to so with Islam so u need to lose this theory.
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@MrPragalv And it is only Thakuris from central Nepal who marry thier mama choris and these Thakuris r pure Magar Chiefs who converted to rajputs and became Thakuris. The Shah kings were called Khan b4 they changed to Shah and Khan means king in Magarkura. Most magar kings from Mangarant, Sen,kha,kand,khan,shahi,shah adopted the rajput story and became thakuris.
Now lets talk about who r Magars.The clans who r classed as "pure" Magars r Thapa,Ale and Rana Magars. Only these three
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@MrPragalv clans speak Magarkura and come from central Nepal which is the homeland of Magars and Magar Kingdoms.It was these three Clans who were in the Prithivi shahs army that united Nepal with Chettris n Gurungs.Magars from western Nepal r Kham and these people r different to Magars as Magars r to Limbus or Rai.
The British would only recruited Gurungs and Magars for the Indian Armys so many Khams from Magar areas like Pun/Garti/Buda/Budathoki started calling themselves Magars n the British
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@MrPragalv accepted these 4 clans as Magars.Many other tribes tried to claim to be Magars to join the Indian army but the British would only recruit from these 7 Magar clans and Gurungs. Pun,Garti,Buda,Budathokis don't speak Magarkura but they marry with Magars now and are Magars now. My mother is a Pun n her mother is Budathoki.
So to answer your question, Magars do not share 50 surnames with Khas and has only 7 clans. Some might use thier thars like sinjali etc. So only some Khas and Tha
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@MrPragalv are rajputs but If u ask majority of the chettris they will never admit to thier Magar ancestry. Chettris class themseleves superior to Magars and look down apon Magars as sano jhatt.
Although Magars had strong history and relation with Khas B4, Gurungs r the people with the closet culture to Magars now.Gurung and Magars are like brothers from the time of the original Gorkha army to modern day Gurkha army.
Khas and Jung left Magars behind at the bottom after the kot massacre.
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 yes ur right...shah have magar ancestory several historian have claimed but they have been hiding for a long time...now slowly all truth is coming out...shah have blood of khas,madhesi(one shah king married jha bahuni),newar,magar...but,i read in some book that this culture(marrying mamako chori) was given my moghual kings n title shah to ghorkhali rulesrs.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 several people thinks that drabhya shah won that kingdom by liglig kot race....but actually he became king because of magar n bahuns...khadka magar le rule gareko rajya thiyo gorkha bahun harule tini haru impure raja hun..pure raja huna janai vako shah(thakuri) raja chaincha vanera sab magar harulai vadkako thyo..tehi vayera khadka magar haru ko rajya dubyo ani shah thakuri magar harule pako ho..shah haru gandaki tira ko raja thiyo re.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 gurung harule magar lai veteko chaubisi rajya vayo pachi matra ho....magar ko culture adopt gareko ho purai...magar haru upperland tira kahile gayenan gurung jasto...mustan ani upperpart tira basne gurung haruko culture purai different cha.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 yes junge ko muluki ain le sab lai pidit banako cha mainly dalit lai....magar haru ruiling class thiyo rana regime vanda agadi.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 i just want to trace my ancestors origin...i dont like caste,religion in politics...like now it is in peak in nepal...magar,baun,khas,kirat,madhese,gurung,sherpa,newar we all are nepali...hope all people will understand this..
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 chhetris are brainwashed by bahuns...thats why majority people dont know there routes n thinks they r superior....one example is junga bahadur rana(kunwar..given by jumala kings....original surname..khadka)...actualy during shah kingdom there was discrimination but now maoist are making them villian among nepali citizen by there crazy propaganda....casteism was practised by (newar)malla,ranas not shahs.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv I agree with you brother, you should always be proud of your culture preserve it but never look down apon others. I like to defend Magars in History of Nepal because we never got credit for it.I never knew how much Magars hve contributed in uniting Nepal because we were never told this in School. All the national heros of Nepal r Khas but Lakhan Thapa is still not given the status yet. I don't hate Khas or Bahuns because it's part of history and shit like this happens all the time but
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 first pm of nepal is a magar which was chosen by pn shah....people should know that.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 shah tried to hide there magar roots....but they cant cheat to there kuldevta thatswhy manakamana mai have magar priest...thapa magar.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv this proves that some culture, religion inside Hinduism originated from mongoloid people. aryan stole, incorporated mongoloid culture, religion into Hinduism. historian have said why aryan incorporated mongoloid culture, religion into Hinduism was to bring Mongoloid people into Hindu society. manakamana temple revolves around kul deuta(ancestors worshiping) and not Hindu brahmin, chettri God which came from india. Now got it.
TaMaGuRaLi 2 months ago
TaMaGuRaLi chhetri people are natives.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv I want magars to educate on thier historys and be proud of it but also respect other Nepalis including dalits who has had the worst treatment out of all of us and still is. All the tribes of Nepal has lived side by side in harmony for centurys and I hope it satys like this because Nepal is unique.
Mughals never introduced marrying mama's choris to shahs. They have always practiced this,just the tradition they kept from thier magar past and all the temples built by Shah kings hve
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@MrPragalv Magar priests and they also scrifice pig (which is Magar symble). Rajputs don't eat pigs and would never adopt Mughul culture because they r firece Hindus and hated the Mughuls.
Take it easy brother and don't ever forget your blood from your mother's side. You have magar blood in you and part of us but we are also one big Nepali Family.
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 yes,i agree magar never get there credit..khas,magar,gurung united nepal but other people think that only khas united nepal because of textbooks...just few months ago i stared reading my history n i knew we were all kept in dark by fake histories....magar n khas were allied from ancient times...shah being magars n we were not chhetris but khas who have our own culture,religion.history...now all truth is opening.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 yea bro, im proud of being nepali...also proud with my heritage of both khas n magars.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
many historian have already verified that shivaism cult ( that resulted in lord shiva) was originally started by Mongoloid people. later the aryan incorporated this idea and started following worshiping of Shiva. later aryan brahmins wrote lord shiva as Hindu god. another example where brahmins have distorted other religion is Buddhism. the aryan brahmins also wrote lord buddha as incarnation of hindu god vishnu. so see some religion in the Hinduism was started by Mongoloid people.
TaMaGuRaLi 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 bro thapa ko origin chai khas kingdom nai ho....khas king ley aafno soldier lai dine padh ho...magar soldier pani thiey tehi vayera khas ra magarko surname milcha....thapa,basnet,karki etc haru khas kingdom ko buddhist sculptures haruma samet lekheko cha....napatyae dr keshabman shakya ko khas jati ra buddha dharma vanne book padda pani huncha.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv or chettri have different mixed faces but Khas as a people r 100% Indo-Aryans.
I don't why u think Magars n Khas hve the same culture. We look differnt,we marry our mama's chori,we eat pork,our dances r Kaura/Gantu/Sorati,we speak a tibeto-burman langauge. Do khas people do the same? And most importantly we don't marry each other apart from love marriage.
The people who adopted Magar culture n r closet to Magars r Gurungs. U can hardly tell the difference between Magars n Gurungs.
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 marrying mamas choris was culture adopted from muslim....surname SHAH n this culture was give by mouughal king to shah kings...thakuri people also follow that culture....bahun n gurung also share same surnames...do u know once magar kings also adopted rajpoot story n surnames like rana...in magar kingdom...before shah n junge did.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv Whatever the origin of Thapas, all I know is Khas people speak a Indo-Aryan langauge (Nepali) n Magars speak Tibeto-Burman langauge and Thapa is a Tibetan word which means Border.
Also, Thapa Magars r the most numerous of the Magars and they speak Magars along with Rana and Ale magars. Not all Magars speak magarkura.Thapas r regraded as 100% pure Magars in our communities.
The only culture the Khas n Magars share is the Nepali Culture, which is the Khas culture.
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 yes khas n magar r of different origin...but if u want to see real khas culture then go to karnali...in the region of dolpa where no bahun dares to live u can find matwali chettri people who are MASTO worshipper who follows same culture as magar n use magar dhamis an pujari...they dont use thread...drink achohal..share same surnames like basnet,thapa,budathoki,karki,mahat etc but dont have any mongoloid appereance..khas r pure caucosoid n magars r mongoloid
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@MrPragalv Well I m glad u agree Magars and Khas have different origin because we r from a different stock although we were very close b4 all that changed when Jung(Khas) put us in bottom of the social ladder even though we were part of the ruling Gorkha army.
Nepal is a melting pot of culture so ofcourse there is going to be mixing of tribes from past. That's why your mama probably doesn't have pure mongoliod features and I also hve family who doesn't look pure magars but magars as a whole r
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 not all magars n khas r mixed but many historian have claimed that there r even khas in magars n magars in khas.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 thapa surname originated in khas kingdom...khas even ruled tibet...read(ancient people of tibet)...khas n magar share atlest 50 surnames....are all khas sharing same surname with magar descedents of magar then??in kumaun n garhwal khas r almost extinct...there might be very few but they r comletely indian...because several dynasty ruled over there after khas...khas r related to kushan people.
MrPragalv 2 months ago
So the later migrant (brahmin &chettri claiming themselves rajput descendents, like jung bahadur rana (kunwar originally) carried out kot parva and bhandar khal parva, to gain power, and it was after his rise other were limited to few power, first martyr lakhan thapa magar was killed for going against him. The scenario changed, even king was under control of jung bahadur , he made such a law that segregated other caste away from power, but only to his family.And castesystem was peak after that.
devkotahari 3 months ago
@devkotahari claming shah to be of magar ancestry or khas ancestry is both a joke because they themselve claim to be some rajpoot which is completly fake.and so junga bahadur claim to be of rajpoot which is also false.he was kunwar(khas) which was given title by jumli khas kings.to be in power junga bahadur massacred all his opponents even his own uncle.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@devkotahari yea lakhan thapa magar was first martyr.he was one of nepali army unfortunately he was not present during kot parva.his fren general aviman singh rana magar was killed during kot parva.after kotparva whole nepali politics changed.jbr was supported by bahuns n british people thatswhy during rana regime except bahuns n newar all were victims.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
As u know there are different type of chettri ,not all chettri are same.Magar were native of nepal, later followed by khas,and due to intermarriage, many khas looks mongoloid or mix in feature, they both were rulers,but after pn shah unified nepal, brahmin and chettri rajputs arrived due muslim expansion in india,and meet khas similar to them,but the main problem for them was the power was not with them,since they were later migrantsbut only to Magar, khas and shah.
devkotahari 3 months ago
@devkotahari dont comment bullshit.u dont know anything.all chhetri r khas.magar n khas grew side by side.khas r mentioned in vedic literatures.khas n magar came to this land same time.before khas kura developed.khas people used to speak iranian dialect mixed with turkic huns(kham magar).all caste of khas developed in khasan.thatswhy khas n magar share same surname,same culture.khas were masto worshipper and so magars were of shaman belief.later our ancesters adopted hinduism.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
this doesn't mean gurkhas are hindu it is just showing that gurkhas has respect to all religions and culture. we are nature and earth worshippers more like animism but Gurkha are loyal and respectful so thats y they are singing bhajan.
yomamafool1 1 year ago
congrats on ur victory to the right to living in the uk. have enjoyed watching your contributions to the tattoo over the yrs in edinburgh
MovieMad007 1 year ago
there r more buddist in nepal thn hindus//
n not all gurkhas believe in hindu..
i bet half of da gurkhas in dis crowed r buddhism..
no offence, jus sayin :)
Suman777 1 year ago
@Suman777
I told pandit baburambhattarai to go and chant Hare Krishna, Hare Ram but it seems that he had gone to Kashi. For all other Nepalese please chant this sacred mantra;
Om bhur bhuvah svah
tat-savitur varenyam
bhargo devasya dhimahi
dhiyo yo nah pracodayat
Once you done with chanting,
watch this video ==> " KIRATISM: Prayer of Earth And Nature "
May Mother Earth bless and protect us.
This kind of video will bring disaster to Nepal so please refrain from watching it.
diliprai 1 year ago
He! He!!!!!! vajan chai dammi lagyo.... luv it.. But m wondering N poundering if they have sing this vajan during dasai or what??? Coz this vajan is totally dedicate to kali mata.. I think....lol...
zeentariya 2 years ago
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watch the video "the way of the gurkha warrior" and you see a Gurkha with his ceremonial Khukri decapitating the buffalo during the Great Gurkha Festival call Dashera
also watch the video "Connexion of Mongolia-Kirat:Revealing the Mystery of Origin of Phallus Stone Worship" which explain roots of Hinduism.
Kiratas are the Indo-Mongoloid(Gurkhas) and find refences in Veda, Puranas and epics of ancient aryan text.
Also check video "Sakela~The Greatest Festival of Kirat People"
diliprai 2 years ago
i wish one of them!! :P
00kizuna00 2 years ago
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Karmajpn 3 years ago
tei ho tei ho..
bobal hai la....... lala
.. nakh rakhnu vo jyos hami nepz ko./ hehe
not only gr8 soldiers buh also gr8 vajan singers.. hehe XD
awesome!
1995yaz 3 years ago
whatever...
jaya gorakhakali...
lastontheline 3 years ago
ya man
its hagne lai bhanda herne lai laag
tai pani daami gaudo raaicha
u rocks reeeee
haha
nabinaspn 3 years ago
pls bhai yo billa video haru raakhne kaam na gara ok!!if you want to know me then check out my video okay!! hagne lai bhanda herne lai laaj
glan6987 3 years ago
apuiii. billa re kya.
hamro nepz daju haru lai esto chwaaakh dekhi rako cha.. kt haru patti halcha ni.
ajhai vajan gaune. wa wa ..
sasu haru le ta jhan maan parai halcha ni .
hehe
1995yaz 3 years ago
pls remove this video.gurkhas are not hindus.Going to temple during training was compulsory but not in unit.
limbuckl 3 years ago
wat do u mean by they r not hindus..ya afu limbu k afu hindu mandainarah...iam also limbu i worship hindu too...well yaha ko new army dai haru le afno relegion nabhulosh bhanera worship garako ho army camp ko guru haru le...kei januh maan cha bhaney y dont u go and train for army...then tell ur sir ok..
gadhatah 3 years ago
hey sis i m a gurkha already.been in the service for 4 years .if u want to learn religion then go to nepal and please refer a book "vijaypur kalin itihas"written by Imansing Chemjong.
by the way,juz think if u are hindu then why do you have your own culture and language besides other tribesmen.
limbuckl 3 years ago 2
wat da hell r u tallking about??
gadhatah 3 years ago
i m talking about the topic u produced
limbuckl 3 years ago
tara tapai ta lik malai gayera kun book study garnuh lagaunuh bhako cha.,..n ur saying gurkhar not hindus and going to temple during training??malai confuse parnuh huncha...u r also army rahecha tah k tapai hindu hainarah...tapai temple ma pray garnuh januh hunna rah army bhaye patchy huh??ma kina padnuh huh malai jarurat chaina i think u need it cuz ur da 1 whos saying tat gurkhas r not hindus?ani malai kina bhanuh bhako tapaile bhaneko answer ta maile po tapailai bhanuh parney ta dai
gadhatah 3 years ago
hey sis ,got the book that i refered to you?if not,go to google and type Limbus.You will get your answer.
thanks
limbuckl 3 years ago
thankx dai,,,
gadhatah 3 years ago
@gadhatah you're a fool you put your own custom and tradition beside and fight with your own brother and sis in the name of hinduim which is nothing but the brahmin brought influence in nepal. which people had to forcefully follow. our ancestor kicked p.n shah ass's but you still here influence by his bulsshit refusing to learn our own history. wow our ancestor will be so proud of you well done sis!!
yomamafool1 4 months ago
@yomamafool1 wat ur talking about?????????????
this is 2 freakinh years ago.. mareko ago lai kima baljaunu huncha...
u keep ur own shit opinion to urself.. who ever u r..
dnt feel proud about giving me lecture n calling me fool..
cuz u hav no right to give lecture to me... ur nobody..
gadhatah 4 months ago
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@gadhatah as if you got an identity lol ur saying i'm nobody. go and my channel and look at my uploads views. my aim was to give you some knwoledge but ifyou think this is a lecture than go you can live your self you aren't welcome in our community
yomamafool1 4 months ago
4 years.. yea aama.. erm u must know sum real bad punishments ehh?? ,..
lol. and da hiding places for "khainee and all da bad stuff" etc,, hehe
1995yaz 3 years ago
hey sis ,got the book that i refered to you?if not,go to google and type Limbus.You will get your answer.
thanks
limbuckl 3 years ago
still dont know tyo book read garnu ho???j vaye ni sabei manche ko afnei thinking ho ...ballei ho!!!!still book barema infoemtioan dinu vako ma thankx dai...but maile limbu haru ko barema read gareko chu google ma ...hehe ok tc forgot about this conversation in youtube..
gadhatah 3 years ago
@limbuckl For those who think the Gurkhas are Hindus. You wrong pal. Gurkhas religion are called Kiratism.
watch this short documentary video ---> " KIRATISM: Prayer of Earth And Nature "
and learn about the Gurkha religion. And don't you ever say that Gurkhas are Hindus again.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai before u reply to me, please look at my comments. Do you have any problems with reading?
well , if you ve missed it. i ll write again. Gurkhas are not hindus.
limbuckl 1 year ago
@limbuckl i wear glasses. Very poor eyesight from reading too much books and education. That's why i didn't saw your comment properly. Gurkhas actually are NOT Hindus. And Gurkhas do not pray to trickster/magician like Sai Baba, Mata, Ram, Krishna, etc. When Nepal was ruled by Hindu King, he declared Nepal as secular Hindu nation and the Hindu King with his Brahmin ministers tried to bring all other non-Hindu ethnic group into Hindu society through force, conversion and treachery.
diliprai 1 year ago
@diliprai man i know wat brahmins did in the past but it is not going to help us eradicate problems faced by nepalese. I pray to god that may Nepal be peace and always develop further hand to hand.
limbuckl 1 year ago
@limbuckl Absolutely ,this guy Diliprai is an uneducated chimp ,he is all after race and caste ,he is the one who is trying to break unity of Nepalese ,so it's better guy like diliprai should be flush into the toilet coz he is a germ and virus for our society.
boxing318 9 months ago
@boxing318 we all know that a taliban commander was beheade by a gurkha. we all know that a gurkha took on 30 talibans by himself. we all know that a lone gurkha killed 4 indian train robbers and chased away the remaining 40 dacoits. now watch this video and see gurkha bruce lee doing his "everybody's kungfu fighting" and emerging as Asian champion.
here's the video ---> Barja Kumar Rai: Kirat hero of Nepal - 11th Asia Full Contact Final
diliprai 8 months ago
@limbuckl We were Aminist and Shaminist originally but most of us converted to Hindusim. You will find most Magars are Hindus and also Gurungs but some Gurungs and Magars are saying we are Buddist now but we were never Buddist. Gurkhas as a whole are Hindus now but not like Bhauns and Indian Hindus. We are a very flexible Hindus, most of us eat beefs and we only became Hindus because it was the fashion at the time in Nepal. Even your first name is no doubt a Hindu name. .
Rebelass74 9 months ago
@Rebelass74 i have a question for u. Why were gurkhas in world wars only mongolians? where were the aryans?
limbuckl 9 months ago
@limbuckl What?!! Do u mind staying with the topic chief?Is this some sort of riddle I have to solve?I am saying Gurkhas r a multicultural race.we can b Hindus/Buddhist/Kirati/christain whatever.Just because u r not Hindu doesn't mean u can speak 4 the rest of the us.What has aryans n mongolians got to do with this anyway?Ok since u asked,there was no mongolians in gurkhas,we r Tibeto-Burmans n last time i checked the Aryans(germans) strated the war.Indo-aryans maybe?What's yr Point?Make sense!
Rebelass74 9 months ago
@Rebelass74 u dont have to solve any riddle my fren.tibeto-burmans race is called mongoloid. i thnk u misunderstood me. n i m talking about majority here my fren. u said
gurkhas r mulitcultural race. in nepal , we only have 2 races.
u said we only became Hindus because it was the fashion at the time in Nepal.
it wasnt fashion my fren, most of the mongoloid or tibeto-burmans(in ur word) were sold n made their religion change to hindu to get them killed in wars.
limbuckl 9 months ago
@limbuckl Thanks for not speaking in riddles but u r still not making sense! Mongolian n Mongoloid hve 2 different meanings and u said Mongolians...which we r not!We r mongoloid! B4 u start acting smart n embarrassing yourself,u need 2 look up the meaning of the word multicultural in the dictionary. In Nepal we don't hve 2 race...we have more than 100 different race/tribes. Gurkhas are Gurung/Magar/Rai/Limbus and also Tamang/Sunwar/Thakuri/Chettris. This my friend makes us a Multicultural race.
Rebelass74 8 months ago
@Rebelass74 thanks for ur comment.yes we r mongoloid, in common we say we r mongolian in nepal.n u r e wrong. look for it carefully, race and tribe is two different thing. ani dost, tamang, sunwar , rai are called caste or tribe not race.
please dont embarass urself by being overconfident. if i m wrong , then i will assume the things in the internet and the books i read in school is wrong.
Gurkhas can be of any religion now but in past , they had to be hindu.
n i support nepal unity. thanks
limbuckl 8 months ago
@limbuckl dost i have got a list of different races for u because u were overconfident . Mongoloid
,Caucasoid
and Congoid/ Negriod,
dont be overconfident. tribe means caste or jaat/thar in nepali.
limbuckl 8 months ago
@limbuckl Ha Ha!"overconfident"!Is that the best sarcasm u can come up with?U need 2 go back to internet and your school books to find something better.English and Germans r both a Germanic race but they can also be referred to as a different race or tribe.Just like Limbu and Magars r Tibeto-Burman race but we can be called a different race or tribe.In general English terms, race/tribe can mean the same thing. If your English was better,U would hve understood what I meant by Multicultural race.
Rebelass74 8 months ago
@limbuckl I could b pedantic like u n say there is Mongoloids/Caucasoid/Negroid and Aborigines.And tribe n Caste r two different things.Caste is the Hindu structure like Brahmins/Kshatriya/Vaishyas/Sudras depending on individual's professions.Tamang/Sunwar/Rai r tribes (genetics).But I know caste/tribe can mean the same thing in Nepali,just like race/tribe can mean the same thing in English.
Rebelass74 8 months ago
@Rebelass74 and dear nepali viewers nepal new govt. is thinking that nepal need to replace cow with another animal to symbolize nepal.
here's the video ---> Nepal you decide! New National Animal for New Nepal
so plz vote the animal you want nepal to make our national animal. i prefer tiger.
diliprai 8 months ago
@limbuckl So "DOST", B4 u start patronising me and educating me on Homo Sapiens, U should improve your english first and learn 2 write in a coherent sentence.U r out of your depth!
Now finally getting back 2 the main subject."Gurkhas can be of any religion now but in past,They had to be Hindu". Again u confuse me.I don't know if u r finding it hard 2 express yourself in english but half of the stuff u say doesn't seem to make sense.R u saying your comment on Gurkhas not being Hindu is Incorrect?
Rebelass74 8 months ago
@Rebelass74 Hey REBEL'S ASS. I m trying to be friendly here n u re trying to pick up a fight. This is the problem we all Nepalese have.
U re so proud of ur english?WAKE UP SON, that is not even ur language.I bet u even dont know ur own language.
N u seem to have a degree on HOMO SAPIENS. Congratulation
Lets not make a big fuss about religion. ALL NEPALESE ARE EQUAL. peace.
Jai Nepal
limbuckl 7 months ago
@limbuckl @Rebelass74 don't argue over a petty things. religion is just a spiritual things. we can always change religion unlike our race which we cannot change because we are born with it. many indigenous nepalese became hindus because of influence, coercion and some by force. but today we have the freedom to chose whatever religion we feel is good for us.
watch this video --->MONGOLOID_IN_THE_HIMALAYAS |View from Anthropologist|
and spread message that we have freedom to choose our faith.
diliprai 7 months ago
@limbuckl Haha!Hilarious!Playing the victim,Classic trick!Never heard so much contradiction in my life.U must hve invented the word.Lets get some facts clear Chief.
1. I don't give a shit about religion,my family/friends and my culture comes b4 religion.I just hate people like u who is always causing trouble by saying Gurkhas/Magars or Kiratis aren't Hindus, we r this n that.I m trying to tell u we can b whatever we like.Religion should not matter.So don't put this on me.U started this shit!
Rebelass74 7 months ago
@limbuckl 2. My mother tongue is Nepali and I can understand Magar n Gurung fluently bcause my Gran is Gurung (there goes your arguement out of the window).
3.U don't need a degree on HOMO SAPIENS. Its called common general knowledge. If u don't know it then don't patronise me because u will lose.
4. My whole point 2 u was not to make fuss about religion but since u contradicted yourself,U must hve learned your lesson and yes ALL NEPALESE R EQUAL, so don't ask abouts Aryans fighting in WW2.Peace
Rebelass74 7 months ago
@Rebelass74 congratulations in being hindu mate well done, but wait a minute do you know anything about your culture and tradition. do you want me a guy from other caste to tell you that gurung do have animist tamu pye lu culture or you forget. nah nah i mistaken y would you care, you are hindu. down to the the gurung native culture down down magar and kiratis native culture. you fight for your hinduism. one day your son will ask dad what is our gurung's native culture than try to defend mate...
yomamafool1 4 months ago
@yomamafool1 B4 you start acting like a smart ass mate u should get your facts straight. I m Magar, not Gurung and I was born a Hindu but I don't give a shit about Hindusim. And I definately don't need a smart ass like u to tell me about my ancester's religion. My ancesters were Aminist and Shamanist but the migrating Brahmins converted us to Hindusim some time in the 12th century.And the Hindusim we practice now is a mixture of aminism and hindusim, different to the one Brahmins practice.
Rebelass74 4 months ago
@yomamafool1 And like I said I don't give a shit about religion. Magars can be Hindus/cristain/aminist or whatever. As long as they are Magars, that's what matters. I don't practice Hindusim, I just hate smart asses like you who causes trouble by saying we r not Hindus, we r this and that.
And my son will know about Magar history inside out and difenately won't need u to tell me or him. Trust me bro, U don't know more than me about Magar or Gurkha History. Take it easy!
Rebelass74 4 months ago
@Rebelass74 bro afu who is the hardest topic ko enigma ho??
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@MrPragalv Ha ha! Yes bro, that is me. Good guess and how did you guess?
Rebelass74 3 months ago
@Rebelass74 bro, aafno kura clear garne tarika ekdam honest lagyo.....aajkal sab jana baseless kurama biswas garchan reality nabujikana.....jun deshma jaat,dharma lai liyera manche ladchan tyo desh ma kahile santi aaudaina....nepal lai aba burma,ruwanda,sudan,iraq banauna khojdaicha hamro gu khane neta harule...ani mero bau chai thapa(khas) ani mero ama chai rana(magar) ho.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@Rebelass74 that enigma guy also have gurung grandmother n himself was magar...so i guessed u both were same.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@Rebelass74 magar,bahun,chettry,thakuri have same culture...ditto.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@Rebelass74 manakamana,gorkhali temple ko priest magar ho...phulpati ktm ma lera aaune magar le ho...maghe sankrati magar bta suru va ho...bahun le tetro manakaman ra phupati khosna kosis garera ta sakena.
MrPragalv 3 months ago
@MrPragalv it was the brahmins who twisted the story about mankamana and buddha subba temple. both manakhamana and buddha subba temple are headed by magar priest. actually both these templese have no connections with vedic Brahmanical religion(today known as hinduism). But both temples originated from local deity and ancestors worship. later as you know, the brahmins made up a story and said both temples are hindu temple. so hope this help you.
diliprai 3 months ago
@Rebelass74 u must become the leader of nepalese society in wherever u r (jaat jaat ko nagarau)we need educated ppl like u in nepalese politics.not only giving speech in youtube.
limbuckl 2 months ago
@limbuckl Ha ha! R u still here? This is getting embarrassing now. U hve lost this argument long time ago. Stop beating on a dead horse!
Just for your future reference, u don't need to be religious or be a politican to hve knowledge on the subject.It's called general knowledge or simple education. Maybe u should try it so next time U won't look so desperate n narrow minded. U need to give it up bro,go start a debate with someone else who cares because u r boring me now.
Rebelass74 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 yea, i m just alive back to fight wit u. conversation over? we ve not even started yet. answer the questions instead of going left and right. will u
limbuckl 1 month ago
@limbuckl This is my last comment to u.Come back when u can debate with me intellectually because at the moment i feel like I m talking to a little Kid who can't even write in a coherent sentence. U r like a broken record brother, your knowledge of all things n education is limited n u r seriously starting to bore me now!
Good luck in your life n please don't ever contact me again. Go play gocha with your friends because i won't dignify a response no matter what u say.Take it easy bro.
Rebelass74 1 month ago
@Rebelass74 last comment? kina ra?when i was going college, u were a baby. it is you who was playing marble.
kasto dami english. Lets debate intellectually.
limbuckl 1 month ago
@Rebelass74 I salute u for knowing ur grandmother's language. i don't know my own language. U seem not to care about religion but u r a master in this topic. How come?
limbuckl 2 months ago
@Rebelass74 i know we are mongoloid. mongolians is the term used in general by nepalese (arayan ho ki mongolian ho vancha nepal ma, they dont say aryan ho ki mongoloid ho).ask any nepalese. i ll wait for ur comment.
limbuckl 2 months ago
@limbuckl I don't think u r getting the point I m trying to make! Yes some of us were forced converted n some converted voluntary n yes, the Khas dominated government fucked us up but this is not the topic in discussion. It's a completely different topic. My issue is u said Gurkhas r not Hindus but regardless of what happened B4...Gurkhas NOW in the present day can b Hindus/Buddist/Kirati whatever! All Gurung/Magar villages around my area are Hindus. Are u saying Gurung/Magars aren't Gurkhas?
Rebelass74 8 months ago
@Rebelass74 i came across this video today where this american guy visited nepal and had bad impression of nepal. he said that Nepalis worships cow.
watch this video --> /watch?v=VReFeVqt1VI
or titled "Nepal worships cows "
now can you explain to him that not all nepalis worship cows. it's like saying all nepalis are gurkhas. or all nepalis are Maoist. or better all nepalis support indian. thanks
diliprai 8 months ago
@Rebelass74 Absolutely ,this guy Diliprai is an uneducated chimp ,he is all after race and caste ,he is the one who is trying to break unity of Nepalese ,so it's better guy like diliprai should be flush into the toilet coz he is a germ and virus for our society.
boxing318 9 months ago
@Rebelass74 you are partly right and partly wrong.
In those days, the Rana made a dealings with the British. That any non-hindu ethnic group who are enlisted in the british army has to accept hinduism. the rana also made a deal that at least a hindu brahmin pandit pujari is always station with the gurkha. this way the brahmin pandit pujari had big impact, influence on the non-hindu ethnic nepalese. that's why magurali just accepted Hinduism as part and parcel of their lives.
diliprai 9 months ago