Its not GOD that make mistake its us that do so.GOD shows us the path of right things when we dont follow it we are miguided, and add wrong things to our body and soul.not following the concept of HARAM HALAL we are misguided.GOD only shows result of our doing.
While I think it is absolutely great you have discovered the wonderful world of molecular biology - it still seems you only have a basic knowledge of it :) I recommend you read some introductory book ("Biology" by Brooker, Widmaier, Graham and Stiling for example). Then you'll probably understand more of how cell communication works - but you will probably still be thinking it might be guided by a god. I am an atheist/agnostic and I sometimes get a religious feel when I ponder (too be continued)
(continued) deeply about how cells first came into being - but as science provides answers (and as I read them), I understand.
And try to tell people than even though mutations happen they are not usually bad - but a driving force of evolution (and the reason bacteria get resistant to our antibiotics), disease can even be looked upon as a great thing.. it selects the individuals with "good genes" so that the next generation is way better than the previous! You say evolution is(to be continued)
(continued) not an answer; the christian biologist Dobzhansky said "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution" - if you believe God controls the cellular elements, why could he not control evolution? The bible (or other religious books) gives very little (and often wrong) information about nature - so why believe the religious books are anything but guidelines as to how we should live our lives as good people - and explore the earth (we'll have to do (to be continued)
(continued) *something* before going to heaven... and science has given us much more comfortable lives, I'm certain god would want that). Sorry for the "propaganda" - but to start explaining to you everything about such a complicated field on youtube is.. impossible. It has taken me 1,5 years at university this far and I'm starting to understand the big picture. The problem is: the pictures are extremely small ;)
There's no God you morons; it's just basic chemical reactions (the organelles don't actually look like that either, it's just a simple way of drawing diagrams so people can understand SCIENCE) -- not look for an excuse to prove there's a God.
@LukePox Well, actually they look quite like that... X ray crystallography and other techniques gives a really good idea about the 3D structure that can be used in animations, and even though they are not colored like this and the interior of the cell is way more tightly packed it is absolutely not too far away from reality. I think (that part, not the opinion of the poster) it is a good and informative video, regarding transcription that is.
what was that bullc*** at the end about a barrel-shaped machine that help fold the protein in its shape. I mean, like the protein needs something to tell it how to fold. Like there are no things such as forces between atoms in the same molecule. I mean, come on, paradox right there
Good, good. I wouldn't say that it "proves God" just because it sounds obnoxious. You could accurately say it proves the complexity of the cells which can point to a creator though. That's more accurate. Almost everything in this world is subject to opinion anyway, so even with cold hard facts doesn't mean people will believe whilst at the same time if there is a fact that noone believes it doesn't make it any less a fact.
you're saying that these tiny molecules don't have "eyes" or "brains" but still they do what they are supposed to do. Hence, they must be guided by GOD.
If we consider that's true to its core, then "each and every step" of DNA replication, protein manufacturing must be guided by god as these molecules are really really"dumb".
Now, my question is,every once in a while, how come we observe flaws in DNAs ( which in turn give rise to genetic disorders)? Does that mean god makes mistakes?
@PVK316 If in my opinion God is guiding those blind, brainless molecules to build us up and keep us healthy who is guiding that other kind of molecules that try to destroy us? that same guiding force does the flaws in DNAs which in turn give rise to genetic disorders.. that same guiding force makes a blind, brainless bug into a superbug that has the ability to resist most known antibiotics, that same guiding force uses the autoimmune system of a human being to turn against it's own body..
@Already1have when the body's autoimmune system actually attacks the cells of it's body, we have a wide range of sicknesses called autoimmune diseases (about 163) who is guiding the autoimmune system to attacks it's own body? who is guiding blind brainless viruses? the answer inho.. is someone who HATES us.. hence the devastation and death that result from the manipulation of viruses and even our own cells.. What is the name of the one who hate us? According to God.. his name is the Devil.
@Already1have you are contradicting your own point. You are saying that the kind of delicate balance we observe inside cell, must be an act of god..otherwise it's not possible. Then you are saying such act of god can be defied by devil..? who is mere a fallen angel..?
To be straight, these activities are simply bound by laws of 4 basic forces in nature. god is not necessary for this to work, so long as you accept gravitation, electromagnetism and nuclear forces.
@PVK316 4 basic forces: gravitation, electromagnetism, nuclear forces cannot explain how micro-machines inside the cell do that kind of complex work yet they have no brains, no eyes.. are you saying that those 4 basic forces of nature are intelligent so much that they guide those micro-machines? Does gravitation have intelligence? can you prove it? IMHO God or the devil controls those micro-machines in various degrees according to how much access each person gives to the one or the other..
@Already1have Yet again there are no hard rules as Godly people in the Bible were afflicted with severe sicknesses when at they are promised health and yet the Bible gives no explanation why.. yet the same Bible Jesus was healing "all" that were afflicted by sickness. To sum up imho God or the devil controls those micro-machines according to how much access a person gives to the one or the other. But there are always exceptions that we don't know why.. We are not Gods to know each person..
@Already1have now, you can attribute the creation of these "omnipotent" laws as an act of god..but that won't make any difference. because the creator himself will be bound by them as the laws are made by the supreme being himself to govern the universe.
@PVK316 This is such an interesting point. I guess that's where prayer comes in. God can do good. We are here living in this world and God is Spirit who is good and kind. He did put the laws in place and so he cannot just violate them from outside of natural order. But if we who live in this biological world reach out to God with our human spirits and interact with Him who is Spirit, than he in kindness and mercy can probably intervene on our behalf and cause a miracle or healing.
@Already1have According to you every bad genetics disorder is caused by Satan. So what when a genetic disorder suddenly become an advantage say against a disease. Is Satan fighting himself? Them, religious, nutcase.
@Already1have Sickle cell anemia is a genetic disorder that gives some immunity against malaria. It is more common in area where malaria is endemic and allows people in these area to live longer.
@PVK316 These genetic anomalies are inherent to the concept of "freedom" that God provided to all of his creation. In other words, evolution or genetic distortion is imminent because of factors and variables which freely affect the natural order.
@Already1have Believers have over-hyped powers of satan or devil who is again just a fallen angel. I just can't understand how people who have faith in GODS powers easily also believe that when anything bad happens, its the devil's work or in other words an evil intelligence. Why it just can't be the result of the natural laws?
@Already1have A true scientists/researcher will never blatantly deny existence of a supreme intelligence because it can not be disapproved. They just try to find a logical answer to how the things happen around us the way they happen and that search has lead them to the 4 basic laws of physics. Many of the natural phenomena are explained by applying these laws, of course not all of them. But what believers fail to understand that the logical process never results in denial of GOD,
@PVK316 it's just that GOD isn't necessary. Again, science is the method to answer "how things happen" and not "why they happen". Believers are free to say that answer to "why" questions is GOD. If they can understand this difference, their won't be any conflict between science and religion.
@PVK316 It isn't that God makes mistakes. It means that we as humans make poor choices and put other chemicals and substances in our bodies that were not designed to be there which interrupt processes such as transcription and translation that cause the mutations.
Innate intelligence gives all cells the abilty to function. A flower does not have brains or eyes, but we do not question it's ability to pollonate and produce more flowers, etc. It does not need to be a supreme being that did this. It is something way more intelligent than us, however to say that this acknowlegement of the cells' ability to function with intelligence is "proof of God" is not using logical thinking.
Just so you know... They are forms of life (aka creatures)
God does exist and I fully understand what the poster is saying.
You could not begin to understand your argument.
God is the source in which everything came from. (Some could ask, "then where did god come from")
He always was... Science will keep asking the same question. "Where did that come from, how did that happen" Eventually they will reach the source of it all...and they will ask, "Where did that come from?"
Every organism- humans, plants, animals and etc. come from the same exact original cell. The theory was pronounced by Charles Darwin and accepted as a scientific document later on. Meaning..you have same DNA with every living thing in this world. The concept of karma yet solves another piece of a puzzle. Wishing others well, you get well. Wishing others evil, you get evil. What one critics in others, those are his precise flaws..How one sees the world, that is exactly how one sees himself..
Of course the video's description is stupid. If God is going to order those parts around then why not just make the cells out of Jell-O & order the cells around, but the facts I stated below are irrefutable.
All we ever hear about from the hate cult of evolution is flagellum flagellum flagellum flagellum.
When the new breed of microscopes made these discoveries possible the "scientific community" said NOTHING for YEARS about what they saw inside of cells because they didn't want people to know.
They finally came up with a half assed expaination for flagellums & they've been harping on that ALONE incessantly.
the hell you say? I appreciate your enthusiasm but your arguments are flawed. I too am curious about the actions within the cell - but you might as well ask why electrons orbit atoms - how can they move in circles without eyes and brains? Or why do the planets circle the star without eyes and brains. Life is the fundamental force of the universe, it is mysterious and grand, and saying that God did it is an oversimplification and a way out of exploring the unknown. Ass cheeks!
this guy is stupid your subconsciouse mind is guiding them clearly people don't know how to use there brains without bringing god into the picture my body and my dna work well without him.
Every single cell in a human body has a mind portion meaning it can be controlled-by thought. Cayce said that any physical disorder is a consequence of sin. You can repair it by a positive thought and self forgiveness. Any life situation, whether in business or personal relationship keeps on repeating until a lesson is learnt. Accept that situation, walk away with love, not anger- that life program will be de-coded.
One question, If cell theory states that cells can only arise from the division of previous cells, where did the first cell come from? With the complex design involved, it is impossible for it to be random. Far more complex then a microchip. Having all the parts available for a microchip in a "primordial soup" there are not enough zeros for time to put one together randomly.
life didn't happen out of no where... Prokaryotic cells enveloped each other and created a nucleus and a eukaryotic cell... which are the cells that we have. science is real.
i guess i kinda agree. the idea that we all just "evolved" out of nowhere never really made sense to me. i mean, how could something as complex as life and its design just...happen? things that don't add up like, if humans really came from apes then why are there still apparently unevolved apes living today? either way, its all still fascinating :)
@langolava Why would an allmighty, omniscient creator make the building block of life so complex. when being allmighty he could have made it much much simpler ? Why did the omniscient creator put so many flaws in our DNA. ? Was he dozing off ??
@lizazoon to give you something to do. think of yourself as God's answer to one of his other challenges - Entropy. You sitting around watching TV or blogging on the Internet was not exactly all our God saw you as. Much much more, actually.
@lizazoon who knows. maybe its all so complex because he is a complex being himself. maybe there are so many flaws in DNA because he knew we would someday start manipulating his creation in an attempt to be like him, and he wanted to make that as difficult as possible...i have no clue. all i know is that all this; the earth, us, the universe...it just doesn't come across as random to me, thats all.
@langolava If gods` logic is different from human logic, then all his other attributes are most probably different too. Which makes serving such a god very problematic. Logic dictates, that if you have the opportunity to make something simple and equally effective, you will make it simple. and not complicated. The complexity of the cell points directly to evolution. Continued building on what exists allready.
@lizazoon But all life is written with four letters... I would say that this is remarkably simple at the root. Additionally, how would an "organic" mycelle have become something as complex as a cell? The probability that the first functional and reproducing primitive cells simply came into being in a mineral slurry is extremely slim. I would therefore argue that, in their current state, scientific explanations require as much faith to take as credible as believing in a God does...
@jasonkim112 ; It`s a fallacy to invoke a supernatural intervention each time you come across unanswered questions.. Many questions have been answered in the last 200 years.
@langolava Errors occur and genetic defects appear because the world is still imperfect with sin. DNA fails just as cars, bridges, and people fail. Though God is currently holding the pieces of a fragmented earth together, it wouldn't make sense to say that God is responsible for every genetic defect. He doesn't punish mankind for sin either. He gives people free will because free will is necessary for love to exist. With free will and flawed judgment, we usually end up messing things up...
@buckeyecharlie secular statist humanist have been pushing a 'relgious agenda' since time began using words like Humanist, Marxist, Secularist, Atheist, Agnostic, Statist, etc. and in so doing have grossly limited our role in the universe (the center? as debunked so many years ago) and our ability to perform 'miracles' (the cure for Leprosy for example so often miraculously 'cured' by Jesus during His time on earth) which Jesus prophesied if we believed and Loved each other and followed Him.
Your organs are a living peice of your body, organs do not have eyes or brains, so does god make them work? No there is a system by which our body is connected and controlled.
Each organ is made of cells.... those cells do not have eyes or brains and yet each one has a role and a part in that organs function, how do they know what to do, is it god? NO protiens that give orders, keep everything working.
Inside the cell we find the parts doing a job and it must be god?
ok please dont preach god and love and chat rude it makes u look silly. please if u want to chat about intelligent design fine, but what is this slagging off burn in hell chat.... ?
i dont care u dont like me not a surprise REALLY. lots of ppl have different ideas so what u gonna fight till only one lives thus proving power of almighty l;ove...
i'm really confused i though JC was all about love and healing .... or is there a nu religion gonning on where u get to bitch and fly to love haha ;p ;p
I feel gravity i don't have gravity. get it? if not there's no help for you. many people act kind and do nice things but God is love in my belief. Where ever thiers love thier is God. Some people even are compassionate or kind. So if God is love and people have not God then they don't have love because love is god it's not just something you do.
'If God isn't guiding these 'creatures', then who and how are they guided?' What is this? Are you stating you believe God guides every complex molecule in our body, and in every body of over 6 billion people? Wouldn't it be a lot simpler as an omniscience being, for Him to form us with this complexity and leave it to it, rather than controlling each one. All those cells working for you, and you put the blame on some deity, shame on you, sir. Oh, and cells are smarter than you :)
@youngfred116 I see your one of those people who loves throwing out insults. Your so BADASS!! I'm no microbiologist, but I wouldn't mind it. Also, i never claimed to be, I'm giving my opinion in what i know to be true. Who do you mean by 'we'll' accept your comment? I don't need you or anybody else to accept or agree with me, that's what opinions are all about. I think your the dumb one. A deluded, indoctrinated Christian? I'm not saying all Christians are, you just seem to be
You say (already1have) that these molecules need some sort of brain or eyes to move and obey these signals. You've started with an argument that is flawed upon arrival. Some living organisms don't even have a brain or a set of eyes, like the jellyfish and starfish. But they still manage to catch prey, and survive. Bacteria and Amoeba don't have eyes, yet many bacteria could kill you. Bizarre right? Of course, it's science. Your using a very basic logic towards this, and its obtuse.
Is the information box to the right actually thoughtfully written? If so, I'm bewildered. Anyone with a basic understanding on Science, would have a basic understanding on how these 'creatures' work within their environment. For one, they're aren't creatures, they're complex molecules. Cells move about in the body, in a similar and complex way the bacteria and amoeba would when searching for food.
@LilAlien131 suck cock you dumb fag freak. athiest shouldn't watch shit that makes you so upset that someone with itelligence doesn't agree with your little delusional world. you fucked up mind freak wierdo. get a life a stop attacking videos you low life dick eating bitch.
ahhh the age of science or god/ logical or imagination/ right or wrong/ clever or stupit...
can't we jus enjoy the education technology gave us. god proves nothing for with proof comes education and god relies on blind faith, if u know something u dont need faith faith is an insure response like jealously being a face of love if not a rather teen attitude to relationships or the me me attitude. whereas science is a teacher of trying to understand the apples lol
@20atlas20 haha he busted you athiest freak fucks ass with this video. all you sick dicks talk about is science and when scientist and others say that the shit they are studying has to be from anything else then evolution you bitches crack up. if you going to listen then listen to the whole shit not just something that fits your little fucked up delusional world
@20atlas20 your opion doesn't matter because your a sicko. stop bitching about the videos cock sucker. if you don't like them then stop watching you sick fuck. bet you believe nothing came from nothing you dumb dick. stop bitching and face the fact u can't suck cock and go to heaven sick freak.
@20atlas20 manage your comments. if you know you don't like the vid then just don't watch., tired of athiest trying to force thier sick beliefs. I'll never believe that sick fag shit. sorry but true. fuck athiesm till i die. okay peace.
we can watch whatever videos we so choose.. and make written opinions. u have misunderstood and got all angry. it doesn't help or prove u have respect for the almighty power of LOVE. love is more...
personally what i believe makes no difference to what is.. or what u believe or what that person over there believes.. i love studying life, i dont always agree, but ho hummmm such is.. if u have found love with a god then good for u. but that your choice.
@youngfred116 , love is an emotion all souls feel !!
thats like saying to kids if they dont believe in santa they won't get presents.. its misunderstanding to say if u dont follow a religion u will not feel love. its silly and totally nonsense. where is the love, divine love, universal love
i do not blindly believe in santa and i get gifts because my friends love me. the art of thinking of what gifts to share... thinking about giving to others so we can express our feelings.
@20atlas20 You can feel love but not have love. you can feel God and not have God in your life. if i said prove gravity, you might say look at the force it exerts but you could not physically see it nor touch it. but it is a single thing which is everywhere and is acting upon everything. Well God, at his singularity point is love acting upon everything. You wont see him or prove him but you feel and know. that God is jesus.
do not follow blindly u have no idea where u is being lead.
do not lead blindly u have no idea who is following u.
open your eyes and look at your own creative soul.
sorry but i see those that think god will solve their issues as weak. what if i told u i had a nde and saw my eternal soul. and loads of gods and goddesses. we have the power to heal ourselves. before lost we ALL of us use to feel universal love. your comments only proves we is LOST that as well. who cares? who loves?
@20atlas20 your a dumb bitch fuck you die and bust hell open you sick fag freak. you to fucking dumb to know your dumb. I will barage you with insults from know own if you text me any more messages you stupid fuck. You deserve to burn you weirdo ass fuck.
You do believe in evolution in principle at least though , do you not? Viruses for example, evolve on a day to day basis.
So when we find these intermediary animal fossils, the obvious conclusion is that one slowly became another, by the same mechanism the viruses use.
I think what you're taking issue with then, is not evolution but abiogenesis, that is, how the the very first living things came to be. Would this be accurate?
Also if we said God dosnt exist for the resons hgryphon says we should , then in theory we shouldnt exist right? after if science cant measure every single factor in the universe that sustaints are existence, then they dont exist right therefore are existence isnt being sustained therfore we do not exist, yet here i am :) its funny how science can implode on itself when you take it so literaly.
Actually, science does measure every single factor in the universe that sustains our existence. Once again, ignorance about science, GraysAlt. The only thing I see imploding is another one of your bad assertions. Maybe you should stop reading only creationist articles and go study real science so you don't end up looking like a complete fool every time you open your mouth.
@hgryphon I do not read creationist articles.. and i said that science does not measure every factor that sustains the universe so why are you repeating what i said? Evidence of what? And the comments i deleted were the differences between creationism and deism, but as i said i wouldnt teach you anymore. Its not even a conversation all you have said is i am wrong about this and that with out giving any backbone to it at all, and all my statements with backbone you side steped, so i wont teach u.
I know you said science does not. I said science does. I wasn't repeating what you said, I was contradicting it. And you're not teaching me anything, pal. All of your ideas about what science is and what science does are wrong, so the only think you could be teaching me is philosophic in nature, thus a useless gesture at best and a complete waste of time at worst.
If you were really interested in what science measures, GraysAlt, there's a great series about particles and their energy provided by YouTube user BestOfScience that talks about the four forces that govern the nature of material and energetic states, atoms, particles, and bosons, and their like. I'm happy to reference these to you as science measuring that which sustains our universe. What "backbone" do you have to sustain your wild assertions?
I'm sorry, it's Best0fScience, with a zero making up the "o" in "of." Still, have at it, GraysAlt. And in the meantime, I'd be willing to watch or read anything you have to say supporting your argument, though if I disagree with it, expect me to say so as well as discuss reasons why.
Im done with this, hgryphon showed his true colours when he decided to instult me ( emphasizing his imaturity)
And he still cant look any of my comments in the eye, its amusing how you dance around the actualy issue and instead point out spelling mistakes and structural errors.
You insulted yourself when you refused to look at the evidence. You insulted yourself when you chose willing ignorance. And it's probably for the best that you deleted as many of your comments as possible to hide your embarrassing mistakes and your complete ignorance about science. Just because I point out the errors you've made doesn't make it a personal attack.
WHY is this awesome example of biochemistry being associated with RELIGION and/or OPINION in what i can only guess is supposed to be an 'educational' video?!!! No one really knows/has evidence as to how the first prokaryotic cell came to be and pinning it straight away onto some form of I.D seems very naive to me and I find myself to be disappointed in these 'scientists' >_>;;;
Science is a view of life, for the same reason science has been split into seperate catagories so has the view of life, as life and existence is to complex to be viewed and studied in one way, almost as if believing looking thru 1 wndow of a 4 walled house will allow you to no and c enough. I take science and exploration of wat is around us bcaus what is around us is truely amazing i dont care to convert people or something but stupid cmments cnt go ignred or the 1s after us will be ignorant.
You are wrong, GraysAlt. Science is not a view on life. It is a method for determining what is real and what is not. It requires a grueling period of peer review before anything in science is acceptable. Your ignorance on the reality of science is, frankly, sad. I suggest you study up more on how science works before you criticize it.
No branch of science states we happened randomly. That's a myth cooked up by creationists like you. And, by the way, you can prove I'm the biggest asshole on the planet and that doesn't mean what I'm saying is wrong. Attacking me doesn't further your argument or weaken mine. You have no idea what my credentials are, but you're so naive that I own you.
You're free to ignore me, GraysAlt, but that doesn't make me wrong either. Also, I never said I know everything, nor did I claim to know the origin of everything. You're demonstrating an argument method known as a "straw man," where you pretend my position is something it isn't then attack that false position. If you feel like a winner by defeating something that isn't my real position, then have at it, friend. You're just beating yourself up and I'm still not wrong. :)
Your INTELLIGENCE, GraysAlt? You can't even spell INTELLIGENCE and you're saying you're gracing me with it for the last time? Oh no, how ever will I get through my day when a person who can't even spell properly because he's really a 19 year old high school drop out in Japan but he thinks he has a lock on the world isn't going to speak to me any more! Oh no! Watch me hold my breath in protest!
i respect ur OPINION. Science is not a opinion..is a method. When church want to burn Galileo Galilei, and burn Giordano Bruno...OPINION of Church was the only science possible.
Time is passed, i hope we learned something from these heroes.
Opinion is only a opinion..science is a method by reproducibles and measurables results!!.
I respect ur opinion..i dont want to burn u!!
my opinion is different..so..i hope u do the same whit all the world.
That's because you're mentally retarded. Nobody lives their life measuring every emotion in a lab, GraysAlt. That's another straw man argument. You sure are good at arguing against something that isn't even a real person's opinion. :)
You're still wrong, GraysAlt. Science is a METHOD. We don't agree on science. Science has nothing to do with majority consensus or our emotional input. In fact, I already told you this, so at this point, you're not just wrong, you're a tremendous idiot, because you're choosing to live in ignorance. Also, a science textbook isn't science, it's just a book that gives people a familiarity with the scientific method. And there's no problem with rounding complex numbers.
The claim that science can NOT incorporate non-naturalistic theories to explain things is a flat out LIE by the evolutionary scientists
This only applies to Evolutionary science. they have created a wall around their theory and unlike other areas of science will not allow I.D. as a option
NO other area of science works this way. If astrophysicists found a row of pyramids with letters etched in the sides on another planet, would they exclude I.D. in the theory of its origins. NO.
Not true. I.D. does not claim to define WHO the designer is,
The designer could be Zeus or Aliens.
Atheists fear if I.D. is opened for discussion in schools, the most likely one named to be the designer is the god of the bible because of the evidence
Scientist are still learning and exploring the world. There is current research that explores the control mechanisms in mitochrondira. We don't know everything.
Oh and one more thing if you knew anything about the structure of an atom and how the uncertainty principle you will understand that even in sciences seeing and feeeling isnt the minimum requirement for knowing something exists.
Also using quotes from age old and possibly alterd books to prove your argument is something that would instantly be dimissed in science, also we dont no how everything was created in 6b days and what 6 days ment back then, we also dont how the course of creation and possibly recreation took place, Oh im sorry do you want GOD to personaly give you a hand shake just so you can say ok Yh i agree. ahaha im sorry the only reason i wasted time on you was due to boredom, but ur comment was so flawed
Also i find it funny how you can use science to measure what you cliam to have never seen, felt, or acknowledged the existence of befor, seeing as many units of science aren't absolute and have to be measured agianst something else how can you claim that the existence of a being the is beyond imagining can be proven with the equiptment we have now? when man kind is still trying to find solutions to extending and improving the life of others.
Third, let me answer the question you were probably TRYING to ask: how do these little biological machines do what they do? Easy: the same way all life does what it does. Chemical reactions. One chemical will bond to another chemical, but when another, stronger bond is available, the old bond will break up to form the new bond. But if you were really curious, you'd be reaching for a biochemistry textbook instead of posting stolen computer graphics and asking naive questions.
First of all, is this the video that was ripped off without giving proper credit to the makers of the video by creationists, who got paid for the lecture they created around the video? Classy to see you using stolen property for this.
Second, your question makes no sense. If you cut off your arm, is it an independent living thing? Of course not. So what is getting you so worked up about a part of a cell that can't survive on it's own? Next time, make sure you have something before you post.
It's not slander if it's the truth. There's a video here on YouTube that talks about the theft of the "inside the cell" footage and explains exactly how it was stolen. That's how I know it was stolen property.
And I love how you ask "Is slander your only form of argument" when the theft of the footage was but one of A THREE POINT RESPONSE. Dur dee dee, you really are a brilliant fellow, aren't you? :D
your not even a real scientist claiming that something exist when you have no way of prooving it dosnt evidence againts the exist of something is just as important as evidence for, and how exactly will you disproove Gods existence when God cant be measure? its as if you refuse to acknowledge an unimaginably huge number because you have never counted to it. Can you understand now? you may disagree with peoples view of God but you cant make the statements you have made without sounding foolish sry
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to disagree. Things that are real manifest in the universe in a measurable way. That way, even if we can't see or touch them, we can still find them. Based on this criteria, your god is indistinguishable from "nothing" and "the imaginary." Also, the onus on the reality of a god isn't on the skeptic, it's on the person claiming such an unlikely being exists. YOU are the one that needs to provide proof, not me.
I dont understand why science is out to prove that all this diversity in life could come from a "chemical evolution" and in so little time. The more i learn about biology the harder it is to believe this could be so, in fact it only makes it harder to understand how so much could come from nothing.
Najw 421 I agree with you. There are scientists who believe that life as we know it only became possible because of very, very simple extra terrestrial life forms that were brought to earth by a meteorite impact for example and then evolved to lifeforms as we know them. Interesting theory I think, quite fantastic though.
But just think of how men seem to be unadapted to earths gravity (arthrosis etc.).
Science isn't "out to prove" anything, Najwa421. Science focuses on evidence and is brutally peer reviewed. Also, I'm a bit puzzled at your "so much could come from nothing" comment. Scientists don't think anything came from nothing. However, several mainstream religions believe there was nothing until a magic being spoke, and that sure sounds like something out of nothing to me.
I agree! Science is not "out to prove anything". In fact, as a scientist-to-be, I have learnt that "good science" comes from striving to DISPROVE theories.
I never look at organelles and enzymes as creatures, very good comparison, and even though I'm a student, I never pondered how these bio molecules maintain the cell, my professors make it sound like it is all chemical reactions. But there appears to be something deeper.
Greetings, I was discussing this matter with a biochemist who also teaches, and he says there are chemical reactions, however, the order of the reactions and how they come into play, is still a great mystery, Brownian motion talks about the movement of these bio molecules but how they function and move in harmony is unknown to science, its the order that puzzle many scientist, seems there is something deeper, Have a bless day.
Okay, but that still doesn't make the default position "magic."
Yes, we haven't studied the biomechanics of the cell enough to know exactly what causes things to happen 100% of the time. That doesn't mean we aren't looking, and that doesn't mean we won't know forever.
But to stop looking, toss up one's hands, and declare, "This is the magic of a god!" would be the most ridiculous and lazy conclusion to draw.
This is beautiful animation but it's lacking name of organelles so it makes the point of this video obsolete to any student trying to look at this. How does this prove intellectual design anyway? It's cool....so it must be? gahhhhhhhh!
And another thing...those "creatures" that you say that "live" inside the cell are simple molecules or medium-complexity molecular structures and they obey the laws of physics and chemistry. Their "complicated work" is nothing more than a series chemical reactions most of which have been understood by scientists.
Also, not all cells have the same complex structure. Look up viruses and bacteria to see how simple a cellular organism can get.
The Miller-Urey experiment proves that organic materials can be synthesized from inorganic ones via a thermochemical reaction. Fractal geometry offers mathematical evidence that simple rules applied to simple objects repeatedly can generate complex structures after large numbers of iterations.
I think that the event that triggered life's appearance and evolution on Earth was the first occurrence of the chemical reaction that translates a codon(a sequence of 3 nucleotides) into a amino acid.
Its not GOD that make mistake its us that do so.GOD shows us the path of right things when we dont follow it we are miguided, and add wrong things to our body and soul.not following the concept of HARAM HALAL we are misguided.GOD only shows result of our doing.
VPLX2 6 days ago
While I think it is absolutely great you have discovered the wonderful world of molecular biology - it still seems you only have a basic knowledge of it :) I recommend you read some introductory book ("Biology" by Brooker, Widmaier, Graham and Stiling for example). Then you'll probably understand more of how cell communication works - but you will probably still be thinking it might be guided by a god. I am an atheist/agnostic and I sometimes get a religious feel when I ponder (too be continued)
ttllyprocrastinator 1 month ago
(continued) deeply about how cells first came into being - but as science provides answers (and as I read them), I understand.
And try to tell people than even though mutations happen they are not usually bad - but a driving force of evolution (and the reason bacteria get resistant to our antibiotics), disease can even be looked upon as a great thing.. it selects the individuals with "good genes" so that the next generation is way better than the previous! You say evolution is(to be continued)
ttllyprocrastinator 1 month ago
(continued) not an answer; the christian biologist Dobzhansky said "Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution" - if you believe God controls the cellular elements, why could he not control evolution? The bible (or other religious books) gives very little (and often wrong) information about nature - so why believe the religious books are anything but guidelines as to how we should live our lives as good people - and explore the earth (we'll have to do (to be continued)
ttllyprocrastinator 1 month ago
(continued) *something* before going to heaven... and science has given us much more comfortable lives, I'm certain god would want that). Sorry for the "propaganda" - but to start explaining to you everything about such a complicated field on youtube is.. impossible. It has taken me 1,5 years at university this far and I'm starting to understand the big picture. The problem is: the pictures are extremely small ;)
FINISHED :D
Sorry :p
ttllyprocrastinator 1 month ago
There's no God you morons; it's just basic chemical reactions (the organelles don't actually look like that either, it's just a simple way of drawing diagrams so people can understand SCIENCE) -- not look for an excuse to prove there's a God.
LukePox 1 month ago
@LukePox Well, actually they look quite like that... X ray crystallography and other techniques gives a really good idea about the 3D structure that can be used in animations, and even though they are not colored like this and the interior of the cell is way more tightly packed it is absolutely not too far away from reality. I think (that part, not the opinion of the poster) it is a good and informative video, regarding transcription that is.
ttllyprocrastinator 1 month ago
except for the "vesicle" at the end... totally wrong...
ttllyprocrastinator 1 month ago
Amazing what God created
armantadevosyan1 1 month ago
The voice of the narrator = EPIC
IVIilitant 3 months ago
simply hilarious! :D deserves a prize haha
TheGrimReapress 3 months ago
what was that bullc*** at the end about a barrel-shaped machine that help fold the protein in its shape. I mean, like the protein needs something to tell it how to fold. Like there are no things such as forces between atoms in the same molecule. I mean, come on, paradox right there
TheGrimReapress 3 months ago
Good, good. I wouldn't say that it "proves God" just because it sounds obnoxious. You could accurately say it proves the complexity of the cells which can point to a creator though. That's more accurate. Almost everything in this world is subject to opinion anyway, so even with cold hard facts doesn't mean people will believe whilst at the same time if there is a fact that noone believes it doesn't make it any less a fact.
davorunner 3 months ago
this is such bull**!
nikkelia 3 months ago
Ug... the stupid... it hurts... make it stop... please somebody make it stop!
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Yeah... Mind boggling if you're an ignorant fool.
"I don't understand therefore Gawd...." *drool*
SuperiorMind 3 months ago
we meet again 240p !
sags149 4 months ago
Please people keep science in the real world and bullshit in the church, no need to mix them. Science in religion is quite the oxymoron
magajelly 5 months ago
Yes, Because a Imaginary friend can command every cell in every body. What a waste of time.
doomlord123456 7 months ago
you're saying that these tiny molecules don't have "eyes" or "brains" but still they do what they are supposed to do. Hence, they must be guided by GOD.
If we consider that's true to its core, then "each and every step" of DNA replication, protein manufacturing must be guided by god as these molecules are really really"dumb".
Now, my question is,every once in a while, how come we observe flaws in DNAs ( which in turn give rise to genetic disorders)? Does that mean god makes mistakes?
PVK316 7 months ago
@PVK316 If in my opinion God is guiding those blind, brainless molecules to build us up and keep us healthy who is guiding that other kind of molecules that try to destroy us? that same guiding force does the flaws in DNAs which in turn give rise to genetic disorders.. that same guiding force makes a blind, brainless bug into a superbug that has the ability to resist most known antibiotics, that same guiding force uses the autoimmune system of a human being to turn against it's own body..
Already1have 7 months ago
@Already1have when the body's autoimmune system actually attacks the cells of it's body, we have a wide range of sicknesses called autoimmune diseases (about 163) who is guiding the autoimmune system to attacks it's own body? who is guiding blind brainless viruses? the answer inho.. is someone who HATES us.. hence the devastation and death that result from the manipulation of viruses and even our own cells.. What is the name of the one who hate us? According to God.. his name is the Devil.
Already1have 7 months ago
@Already1have you are contradicting your own point. You are saying that the kind of delicate balance we observe inside cell, must be an act of god..otherwise it's not possible. Then you are saying such act of god can be defied by devil..? who is mere a fallen angel..?
To be straight, these activities are simply bound by laws of 4 basic forces in nature. god is not necessary for this to work, so long as you accept gravitation, electromagnetism and nuclear forces.
PVK316 7 months ago
@PVK316 4 basic forces: gravitation, electromagnetism, nuclear forces cannot explain how micro-machines inside the cell do that kind of complex work yet they have no brains, no eyes.. are you saying that those 4 basic forces of nature are intelligent so much that they guide those micro-machines? Does gravitation have intelligence? can you prove it? IMHO God or the devil controls those micro-machines in various degrees according to how much access each person gives to the one or the other..
Already1have 7 months ago
@Already1have Yet again there are no hard rules as Godly people in the Bible were afflicted with severe sicknesses when at they are promised health and yet the Bible gives no explanation why.. yet the same Bible Jesus was healing "all" that were afflicted by sickness. To sum up imho God or the devil controls those micro-machines according to how much access a person gives to the one or the other. But there are always exceptions that we don't know why.. We are not Gods to know each person..
Already1have 7 months ago
@Already1have now, you can attribute the creation of these "omnipotent" laws as an act of god..but that won't make any difference. because the creator himself will be bound by them as the laws are made by the supreme being himself to govern the universe.
PVK316 7 months ago
@PVK316 This is such an interesting point. I guess that's where prayer comes in. God can do good. We are here living in this world and God is Spirit who is good and kind. He did put the laws in place and so he cannot just violate them from outside of natural order. But if we who live in this biological world reach out to God with our human spirits and interact with Him who is Spirit, than he in kindness and mercy can probably intervene on our behalf and cause a miracle or healing.
indigo2625 4 months ago
@Already1have According to you every bad genetics disorder is caused by Satan. So what when a genetic disorder suddenly become an advantage say against a disease. Is Satan fighting himself? Them, religious, nutcase.
TemplarX2 1 month ago in playlist Biology
@TemplarX2 give example..
Already1have 3 weeks ago
@Already1have Sickle cell anemia is a genetic disorder that gives some immunity against malaria. It is more common in area where malaria is endemic and allows people in these area to live longer.
TemplarX2 3 weeks ago
@PVK316 These genetic anomalies are inherent to the concept of "freedom" that God provided to all of his creation. In other words, evolution or genetic distortion is imminent because of factors and variables which freely affect the natural order.
2213879glenn 6 months ago
@PVK316 no.. it's someone that hates humans really bad.. satan
Already1have 3 weeks ago
@Already1have Believers have over-hyped powers of satan or devil who is again just a fallen angel. I just can't understand how people who have faith in GODS powers easily also believe that when anything bad happens, its the devil's work or in other words an evil intelligence. Why it just can't be the result of the natural laws?
PVK316 3 weeks ago
@Already1have A true scientists/researcher will never blatantly deny existence of a supreme intelligence because it can not be disapproved. They just try to find a logical answer to how the things happen around us the way they happen and that search has lead them to the 4 basic laws of physics. Many of the natural phenomena are explained by applying these laws, of course not all of them. But what believers fail to understand that the logical process never results in denial of GOD,
PVK316 3 weeks ago
@PVK316 it's just that GOD isn't necessary. Again, science is the method to answer "how things happen" and not "why they happen". Believers are free to say that answer to "why" questions is GOD. If they can understand this difference, their won't be any conflict between science and religion.
PVK316 3 weeks ago
@PVK316 It isn't that God makes mistakes. It means that we as humans make poor choices and put other chemicals and substances in our bodies that were not designed to be there which interrupt processes such as transcription and translation that cause the mutations.
fbmann64 2 weeks ago
this video is rad and gives life some recognition, cause it's seriously cooler than you.
glitchyyy 11 months ago
Nice for studying cell physiology though.
be2008real 1 year ago
Innate intelligence gives all cells the abilty to function. A flower does not have brains or eyes, but we do not question it's ability to pollonate and produce more flowers, etc. It does not need to be a supreme being that did this. It is something way more intelligent than us, however to say that this acknowlegement of the cells' ability to function with intelligence is "proof of God" is not using logical thinking.
be2008real 1 year ago
This clip is a piece of GARBAGE.
MrChoortan 1 year ago
try opening a biochemistry text book
amudperson 1 year ago
Just so you know... They are forms of life (aka creatures)
God does exist and I fully understand what the poster is saying.
You could not begin to understand your argument.
God is the source in which everything came from. (Some could ask, "then where did god come from")
He always was... Science will keep asking the same question. "Where did that come from, how did that happen" Eventually they will reach the source of it all...and they will ask, "Where did that come from?"
jegej18 1 year ago
Every organism- humans, plants, animals and etc. come from the same exact original cell. The theory was pronounced by Charles Darwin and accepted as a scientific document later on. Meaning..you have same DNA with every living thing in this world. The concept of karma yet solves another piece of a puzzle. Wishing others well, you get well. Wishing others evil, you get evil. What one critics in others, those are his precise flaws..How one sees the world, that is exactly how one sees himself..
RUSSKAYAG 1 year ago
Of course the video's description is stupid. If God is going to order those parts around then why not just make the cells out of Jell-O & order the cells around, but the facts I stated below are irrefutable.
MrShoeguy 1 year ago
All we ever hear about from the hate cult of evolution is flagellum flagellum flagellum flagellum.
When the new breed of microscopes made these discoveries possible the "scientific community" said NOTHING for YEARS about what they saw inside of cells because they didn't want people to know.
They finally came up with a half assed expaination for flagellums & they've been harping on that ALONE incessantly.
MrShoeguy 1 year ago
What this animation proves is that humans can make very pretty animations.
StellaOmega 1 year ago
the hell you say? I appreciate your enthusiasm but your arguments are flawed. I too am curious about the actions within the cell - but you might as well ask why electrons orbit atoms - how can they move in circles without eyes and brains? Or why do the planets circle the star without eyes and brains. Life is the fundamental force of the universe, it is mysterious and grand, and saying that God did it is an oversimplification and a way out of exploring the unknown. Ass cheeks!
Utubeblows 1 year ago
OMG! there not creatures! they are organelles and enzymes! People who think its god who did it r just stupid dimbshits...
RandomAccount1996 1 year ago
this guy is stupid your subconsciouse mind is guiding them clearly people don't know how to use there brains without bringing god into the picture my body and my dna work well without him.
new age is also a lode of bullshit too.
TheLovesoul1 1 year ago
@TheLovesoul1 no, DNA and messenger RNA guide cell functions. It tells you how it works in the video, dumbasses! (transcription)
RandomAccount1996 1 year ago
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Every single cell in a human body has a mind portion meaning it can be controlled-by thought. Cayce said that any physical disorder is a consequence of sin. You can repair it by a positive thought and self forgiveness. Any life situation, whether in business or personal relationship keeps on repeating until a lesson is learnt. Accept that situation, walk away with love, not anger- that life program will be de-coded.
RUSSKAYAG 1 year ago
Are you people really debating the existence of God in a youtube forum?
nitsua1023 1 year ago
@nitsua1023 thank you.
Superdeduper739 1 year ago
One question, If cell theory states that cells can only arise from the division of previous cells, where did the first cell come from? With the complex design involved, it is impossible for it to be random. Far more complex then a microchip. Having all the parts available for a microchip in a "primordial soup" there are not enough zeros for time to put one together randomly.
MrSamuel1414 1 year ago
life didn't happen out of no where... Prokaryotic cells enveloped each other and created a nucleus and a eukaryotic cell... which are the cells that we have. science is real.
jessicasaar 1 year ago
i guess i kinda agree. the idea that we all just "evolved" out of nowhere never really made sense to me. i mean, how could something as complex as life and its design just...happen? things that don't add up like, if humans really came from apes then why are there still apparently unevolved apes living today? either way, its all still fascinating :)
langolava 1 year ago
@langolava Why would an allmighty, omniscient creator make the building block of life so complex. when being allmighty he could have made it much much simpler ? Why did the omniscient creator put so many flaws in our DNA. ? Was he dozing off ??
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon to give you something to do. think of yourself as God's answer to one of his other challenges - Entropy. You sitting around watching TV or blogging on the Internet was not exactly all our God saw you as. Much much more, actually.
SamuelCyrus 1 year ago
@lizazoon who knows. maybe its all so complex because he is a complex being himself. maybe there are so many flaws in DNA because he knew we would someday start manipulating his creation in an attempt to be like him, and he wanted to make that as difficult as possible...i have no clue. all i know is that all this; the earth, us, the universe...it just doesn't come across as random to me, thats all.
langolava 1 year ago
@langolava If gods` logic is different from human logic, then all his other attributes are most probably different too. Which makes serving such a god very problematic. Logic dictates, that if you have the opportunity to make something simple and equally effective, you will make it simple. and not complicated. The complexity of the cell points directly to evolution. Continued building on what exists allready.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon okay
langolava 1 year ago
@lizazoon But all life is written with four letters... I would say that this is remarkably simple at the root. Additionally, how would an "organic" mycelle have become something as complex as a cell? The probability that the first functional and reproducing primitive cells simply came into being in a mineral slurry is extremely slim. I would therefore argue that, in their current state, scientific explanations require as much faith to take as credible as believing in a God does...
jasonkim112 1 year ago
@jasonkim112 ; It`s a fallacy to invoke a supernatural intervention each time you come across unanswered questions.. Many questions have been answered in the last 200 years.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon LOL..nothing has been answered by science Miller himself gave up..and said cells were to complex for chance alone.are u kidding...
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
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@5tonyvvvv --LOL..nothing has been answered by science--- What Madrassah are you attending. You know there is REALl science out there !!!
lizazoon 1 year ago
@langolava Errors occur and genetic defects appear because the world is still imperfect with sin. DNA fails just as cars, bridges, and people fail. Though God is currently holding the pieces of a fragmented earth together, it wouldn't make sense to say that God is responsible for every genetic defect. He doesn't punish mankind for sin either. He gives people free will because free will is necessary for love to exist. With free will and flawed judgment, we usually end up messing things up...
jasonkim112 1 year ago
@jasonkim112 i never said he was responsible for every genetic defect.
langolava 1 year ago
I find this film to be vehemently suspect of heresy. It's maker shall be forced to recant, and spent the rest of their life under house arrest.
ibbumpn 1 year ago 2
This is not a scientific clip; it is garbage. The producers should be ashamed. Fools
MrChoortan 1 year ago
If you really want to know how it all works get some reading done and get yourself to university. A GOOD university
NotJames1 1 year ago
Good video except someone is pushing a religious agenda.Would have better with that.
buckeyecharlie 1 year ago 2
@buckeyecharlie secular statist humanist have been pushing a 'relgious agenda' since time began using words like Humanist, Marxist, Secularist, Atheist, Agnostic, Statist, etc. and in so doing have grossly limited our role in the universe (the center? as debunked so many years ago) and our ability to perform 'miracles' (the cure for Leprosy for example so often miraculously 'cured' by Jesus during His time on earth) which Jesus prophesied if we believed and Loved each other and followed Him.
SamuelCyrus 1 year ago
@SamuelCyrus we are no longer in need of miracles to cure Leprosy... Science not god, not the bible, has found the cure.
lizazoon 1 year ago
Your organs are a living peice of your body, organs do not have eyes or brains, so does god make them work? No there is a system by which our body is connected and controlled.
Each organ is made of cells.... those cells do not have eyes or brains and yet each one has a role and a part in that organs function, how do they know what to do, is it god? NO protiens that give orders, keep everything working.
Inside the cell we find the parts doing a job and it must be god?
SpittD 1 year ago
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@SpittD
He said intelligent design you fucking worthless piece of shit.
CaptainSeeSharp 1 year ago
wow!
97273998 1 year ago
ok please dont preach god and love and chat rude it makes u look silly. please if u want to chat about intelligent design fine, but what is this slagging off burn in hell chat.... ?
i dont care u dont like me not a surprise REALLY. lots of ppl have different ideas so what u gonna fight till only one lives thus proving power of almighty l;ove...
i'm really confused i though JC was all about love and healing .... or is there a nu religion gonning on where u get to bitch and fly to love haha ;p ;p
20atlas20 1 year ago
I feel gravity i don't have gravity. get it? if not there's no help for you. many people act kind and do nice things but God is love in my belief. Where ever thiers love thier is God. Some people even are compassionate or kind. So if God is love and people have not God then they don't have love because love is god it's not just something you do.
youngfred116 1 year ago
'If God isn't guiding these 'creatures', then who and how are they guided?' What is this? Are you stating you believe God guides every complex molecule in our body, and in every body of over 6 billion people? Wouldn't it be a lot simpler as an omniscience being, for Him to form us with this complexity and leave it to it, rather than controlling each one. All those cells working for you, and you put the blame on some deity, shame on you, sir. Oh, and cells are smarter than you :)
WormX123 1 year ago
@WormX123 you dumb shit. when your a microbiologist then we'll respect your conment. your dumber then the cells..
youngfred116 1 year ago
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WormX123 1 year ago
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@youngfred116 I see your one of those people who loves throwing out insults. Your so BADASS!! I'm no microbiologist, but I wouldn't mind it. Also, i never claimed to be, I'm giving my opinion in what i know to be true. Who do you mean by 'we'll' accept your comment? I don't need you or anybody else to accept or agree with me, that's what opinions are all about. I think your the dumb one. A deluded, indoctrinated Christian? I'm not saying all Christians are, you just seem to be
WormX123 1 year ago
You say (already1have) that these molecules need some sort of brain or eyes to move and obey these signals. You've started with an argument that is flawed upon arrival. Some living organisms don't even have a brain or a set of eyes, like the jellyfish and starfish. But they still manage to catch prey, and survive. Bacteria and Amoeba don't have eyes, yet many bacteria could kill you. Bizarre right? Of course, it's science. Your using a very basic logic towards this, and its obtuse.
WormX123 1 year ago
Is the information box to the right actually thoughtfully written? If so, I'm bewildered. Anyone with a basic understanding on Science, would have a basic understanding on how these 'creatures' work within their environment. For one, they're aren't creatures, they're complex molecules. Cells move about in the body, in a similar and complex way the bacteria and amoeba would when searching for food.
WormX123 1 year ago
Yes Mr.uploader, your a big douche (and an ass).
WormX123 1 year ago
Mr.uploader, your an ass
LilAlien131 1 year ago
@LilAlien131 suck cock you dumb fag freak. athiest shouldn't watch shit that makes you so upset that someone with itelligence doesn't agree with your little delusional world. you fucked up mind freak wierdo. get a life a stop attacking videos you low life dick eating bitch.
youngfred116 1 year ago
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WormX123 1 year ago
Biology is one amazing science ...I love it .
Morena2cat 1 year ago 2
ahhh the age of science or god/ logical or imagination/ right or wrong/ clever or stupit...
can't we jus enjoy the education technology gave us. god proves nothing for with proof comes education and god relies on blind faith, if u know something u dont need faith faith is an insure response like jealously being a face of love if not a rather teen attitude to relationships or the me me attitude. whereas science is a teacher of trying to understand the apples lol
20atlas20 1 year ago
@20atlas20 haha he busted you athiest freak fucks ass with this video. all you sick dicks talk about is science and when scientist and others say that the shit they are studying has to be from anything else then evolution you bitches crack up. if you going to listen then listen to the whole shit not just something that fits your little fucked up delusional world
youngfred116 1 year ago
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20atlas20 1 year ago
@20atlas20 your opion doesn't matter because your a sicko. stop bitching about the videos cock sucker. if you don't like them then stop watching you sick fuck. bet you believe nothing came from nothing you dumb dick. stop bitching and face the fact u can't suck cock and go to heaven sick freak.
youngfred116 1 year ago
@youngfred116
whatever
anger management, relax therapies, stress relief
chilax youngfred... lol
20atlas20 1 year ago
@20atlas20 manage your comments. if you know you don't like the vid then just don't watch., tired of athiest trying to force thier sick beliefs. I'll never believe that sick fag shit. sorry but true. fuck athiesm till i die. okay peace.
youngfred116 1 year ago
@youngfred116
we can watch whatever videos we so choose.. and make written opinions. u have misunderstood and got all angry. it doesn't help or prove u have respect for the almighty power of LOVE. love is more...
personally what i believe makes no difference to what is.. or what u believe or what that person over there believes.. i love studying life, i dont always agree, but ho hummmm such is.. if u have found love with a god then good for u. but that your choice.
HUGE universe many stars x;p
20atlas20 1 year ago
@20atlas if you hav not God then you have not love.
youngfred116 1 year ago
@youngfred116 , love is an emotion all souls feel !!
thats like saying to kids if they dont believe in santa they won't get presents.. its misunderstanding to say if u dont follow a religion u will not feel love. its silly and totally nonsense. where is the love, divine love, universal love
i do not blindly believe in santa and i get gifts because my friends love me. the art of thinking of what gifts to share... thinking about giving to others so we can express our feelings.
what is your god?
20atlas20 1 year ago
@20atlas20 You can feel love but not have love. you can feel God and not have God in your life. if i said prove gravity, you might say look at the force it exerts but you could not physically see it nor touch it. but it is a single thing which is everywhere and is acting upon everything. Well God, at his singularity point is love acting upon everything. You wont see him or prove him but you feel and know. that God is jesus.
youngfred116 1 year ago
@youngfred116
do not follow blindly u have no idea where u is being lead.
do not lead blindly u have no idea who is following u.
open your eyes and look at your own creative soul.
sorry but i see those that think god will solve their issues as weak. what if i told u i had a nde and saw my eternal soul. and loads of gods and goddesses. we have the power to heal ourselves. before lost we ALL of us use to feel universal love. your comments only proves we is LOST that as well. who cares? who loves?
20atlas20 1 year ago
@20atlas20 your a dumb bitch fuck you die and bust hell open you sick fag freak. you to fucking dumb to know your dumb. I will barage you with insults from know own if you text me any more messages you stupid fuck. You deserve to burn you weirdo ass fuck.
youngfred116 1 year ago
and i thought henry ford invented the assembly line
sizzlechooch 2 years ago 2
" "Evolution did it" or similar is not an answer. Sorry. I believe you are more intelligent than that!"
lol if you can say that i am not intelligent enough if i say Evolution did it, then what level of brain activity do YOU have if you say God did it?
realgodd 2 years ago
You do believe in evolution in principle at least though , do you not? Viruses for example, evolve on a day to day basis.
So when we find these intermediary animal fossils, the obvious conclusion is that one slowly became another, by the same mechanism the viruses use.
I think what you're taking issue with then, is not evolution but abiogenesis, that is, how the the very first living things came to be. Would this be accurate?
monkeytwineball 2 years ago
It seems to me that when you don't know the answer to something, the proper response is "I don't know" and not "It was obviously magic"
monkeytwineball 2 years ago 2
Also if we said God dosnt exist for the resons hgryphon says we should , then in theory we shouldnt exist right? after if science cant measure every single factor in the universe that sustaints are existence, then they dont exist right therefore are existence isnt being sustained therfore we do not exist, yet here i am :) its funny how science can implode on itself when you take it so literaly.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
Actually, science does measure every single factor in the universe that sustains our existence. Once again, ignorance about science, GraysAlt. The only thing I see imploding is another one of your bad assertions. Maybe you should stop reading only creationist articles and go study real science so you don't end up looking like a complete fool every time you open your mouth.
hgryphon 2 years ago
@hgryphon I do not read creationist articles.. and i said that science does not measure every factor that sustains the universe so why are you repeating what i said? Evidence of what? And the comments i deleted were the differences between creationism and deism, but as i said i wouldnt teach you anymore. Its not even a conversation all you have said is i am wrong about this and that with out giving any backbone to it at all, and all my statements with backbone you side steped, so i wont teach u.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
I know you said science does not. I said science does. I wasn't repeating what you said, I was contradicting it. And you're not teaching me anything, pal. All of your ideas about what science is and what science does are wrong, so the only think you could be teaching me is philosophic in nature, thus a useless gesture at best and a complete waste of time at worst.
hgryphon 2 years ago
If you were really interested in what science measures, GraysAlt, there's a great series about particles and their energy provided by YouTube user BestOfScience that talks about the four forces that govern the nature of material and energetic states, atoms, particles, and bosons, and their like. I'm happy to reference these to you as science measuring that which sustains our universe. What "backbone" do you have to sustain your wild assertions?
hgryphon 2 years ago
I'm sorry, it's Best0fScience, with a zero making up the "o" in "of." Still, have at it, GraysAlt. And in the meantime, I'd be willing to watch or read anything you have to say supporting your argument, though if I disagree with it, expect me to say so as well as discuss reasons why.
hgryphon 2 years ago
Im done with this, hgryphon showed his true colours when he decided to instult me ( emphasizing his imaturity)
And he still cant look any of my comments in the eye, its amusing how you dance around the actualy issue and instead point out spelling mistakes and structural errors.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
You insulted yourself when you refused to look at the evidence. You insulted yourself when you chose willing ignorance. And it's probably for the best that you deleted as many of your comments as possible to hide your embarrassing mistakes and your complete ignorance about science. Just because I point out the errors you've made doesn't make it a personal attack.
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i wish u become scientist..or philosoph...i cant spend more words wasting time.
i said harry potter's land..bcz whitout science...all look like magic...!! science is not a opinion...when is Science. (galileo's method..)...
max1511 2 years ago
I never said i wanted a world without science thats a bit crazy..
GraysAlt 2 years ago
yes..parts in the cell...they dont need to decide nothing...its just all a rouled chemical and physical equilibre...
that's the difference beetween intelligence and death things. whe can decide something....cell's parts..no...
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GraysAlt 2 years ago
WHY is this awesome example of biochemistry being associated with RELIGION and/or OPINION in what i can only guess is supposed to be an 'educational' video?!!! No one really knows/has evidence as to how the first prokaryotic cell came to be and pinning it straight away onto some form of I.D seems very naive to me and I find myself to be disappointed in these 'scientists' >_>;;;
Dranzira 2 years ago
Science is a view of life, for the same reason science has been split into seperate catagories so has the view of life, as life and existence is to complex to be viewed and studied in one way, almost as if believing looking thru 1 wndow of a 4 walled house will allow you to no and c enough. I take science and exploration of wat is around us bcaus what is around us is truely amazing i dont care to convert people or something but stupid cmments cnt go ignred or the 1s after us will be ignorant.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
You are wrong, GraysAlt. Science is not a view on life. It is a method for determining what is real and what is not. It requires a grueling period of peer review before anything in science is acceptable. Your ignorance on the reality of science is, frankly, sad. I suggest you study up more on how science works before you criticize it.
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GraysAlt 2 years ago
No branch of science states we happened randomly. That's a myth cooked up by creationists like you. And, by the way, you can prove I'm the biggest asshole on the planet and that doesn't mean what I'm saying is wrong. Attacking me doesn't further your argument or weaken mine. You have no idea what my credentials are, but you're so naive that I own you.
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You're free to ignore me, GraysAlt, but that doesn't make me wrong either. Also, I never said I know everything, nor did I claim to know the origin of everything. You're demonstrating an argument method known as a "straw man," where you pretend my position is something it isn't then attack that false position. If you feel like a winner by defeating something that isn't my real position, then have at it, friend. You're just beating yourself up and I'm still not wrong. :)
hgryphon 2 years ago
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GraysAlt 2 years ago
Your INTELLIGENCE, GraysAlt? You can't even spell INTELLIGENCE and you're saying you're gracing me with it for the last time? Oh no, how ever will I get through my day when a person who can't even spell properly because he's really a 19 year old high school drop out in Japan but he thinks he has a lock on the world isn't going to speak to me any more! Oh no! Watch me hold my breath in protest!
hgryphon 2 years ago
im not sceince expert... but i do oknow that there are living creatures on us.. and inside us! we can,t do anything about it..
MrJoeDaMan 2 years ago
i respect ur OPINION. Science is not a opinion..is a method. When church want to burn Galileo Galilei, and burn Giordano Bruno...OPINION of Church was the only science possible.
Time is passed, i hope we learned something from these heroes.
Opinion is only a opinion..science is a method by reproducibles and measurables results!!.
I respect ur opinion..i dont want to burn u!!
my opinion is different..so..i hope u do the same whit all the world.
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GraysAlt 2 years ago
That's because you're mentally retarded. Nobody lives their life measuring every emotion in a lab, GraysAlt. That's another straw man argument. You sure are good at arguing against something that isn't even a real person's opinion. :)
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GraysAlt 2 years ago
You're still wrong, GraysAlt. Science is a METHOD. We don't agree on science. Science has nothing to do with majority consensus or our emotional input. In fact, I already told you this, so at this point, you're not just wrong, you're a tremendous idiot, because you're choosing to live in ignorance. Also, a science textbook isn't science, it's just a book that gives people a familiarity with the scientific method. And there's no problem with rounding complex numbers.
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science is an opinion????? ok...i wish u come citizen of harry potter's land....
study please...study...and i apologize galileo in ur place...
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barrel shaped machine lol!
isnt that supposed to be the golgi apparatus?
oliminator2 2 years ago
The claim that science can NOT incorporate non-naturalistic theories to explain things is a flat out LIE by the evolutionary scientists
This only applies to Evolutionary science. they have created a wall around their theory and unlike other areas of science will not allow I.D. as a option
NO other area of science works this way. If astrophysicists found a row of pyramids with letters etched in the sides on another planet, would they exclude I.D. in the theory of its origins. NO.
toobsucker 2 years ago
Intelligent design is another name for Creationism. It is not science it is opinion!
tvick63 2 years ago
Not true. I.D. does not claim to define WHO the designer is,
The designer could be Zeus or Aliens.
Atheists fear if I.D. is opened for discussion in schools, the most likely one named to be the designer is the god of the bible because of the evidence
toobsucker 2 years ago
Scientist are still learning and exploring the world. There is current research that explores the control mechanisms in mitochrondira. We don't know everything.
jeoyanda 2 years ago
Oh and one more thing if you knew anything about the structure of an atom and how the uncertainty principle you will understand that even in sciences seeing and feeeling isnt the minimum requirement for knowing something exists.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
Also using quotes from age old and possibly alterd books to prove your argument is something that would instantly be dimissed in science, also we dont no how everything was created in 6b days and what 6 days ment back then, we also dont how the course of creation and possibly recreation took place, Oh im sorry do you want GOD to personaly give you a hand shake just so you can say ok Yh i agree. ahaha im sorry the only reason i wasted time on you was due to boredom, but ur comment was so flawed
GraysAlt 2 years ago
Also i find it funny how you can use science to measure what you cliam to have never seen, felt, or acknowledged the existence of befor, seeing as many units of science aren't absolute and have to be measured agianst something else how can you claim that the existence of a being the is beyond imagining can be proven with the equiptment we have now? when man kind is still trying to find solutions to extending and improving the life of others.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
Third, let me answer the question you were probably TRYING to ask: how do these little biological machines do what they do? Easy: the same way all life does what it does. Chemical reactions. One chemical will bond to another chemical, but when another, stronger bond is available, the old bond will break up to form the new bond. But if you were really curious, you'd be reaching for a biochemistry textbook instead of posting stolen computer graphics and asking naive questions.
hgryphon 2 years ago
First of all, is this the video that was ripped off without giving proper credit to the makers of the video by creationists, who got paid for the lecture they created around the video? Classy to see you using stolen property for this.
Second, your question makes no sense. If you cut off your arm, is it an independent living thing? Of course not. So what is getting you so worked up about a part of a cell that can't survive on it's own? Next time, make sure you have something before you post.
hgryphon 2 years ago
How do you no its stolen property? Is slander your only form of argument.
GraysAlt 2 years ago
It's not slander if it's the truth. There's a video here on YouTube that talks about the theft of the "inside the cell" footage and explains exactly how it was stolen. That's how I know it was stolen property.
And I love how you ask "Is slander your only form of argument" when the theft of the footage was but one of A THREE POINT RESPONSE. Dur dee dee, you really are a brilliant fellow, aren't you? :D
hgryphon 2 years ago
your not even a real scientist claiming that something exist when you have no way of prooving it dosnt evidence againts the exist of something is just as important as evidence for, and how exactly will you disproove Gods existence when God cant be measure? its as if you refuse to acknowledge an unimaginably huge number because you have never counted to it. Can you understand now? you may disagree with peoples view of God but you cant make the statements you have made without sounding foolish sry
GraysAlt 2 years ago
I'm sorry, I'm going to have to disagree. Things that are real manifest in the universe in a measurable way. That way, even if we can't see or touch them, we can still find them. Based on this criteria, your god is indistinguishable from "nothing" and "the imaginary." Also, the onus on the reality of a god isn't on the skeptic, it's on the person claiming such an unlikely being exists. YOU are the one that needs to provide proof, not me.
hgryphon 2 years ago
exactly! agree with Najwa421.
as I see almost all the biological process inside the cell, I could realized how great "our Creator".
The more we learn biology, the more we realized that there's to much things that we don't know.
we have to learn much things from our cell. :)
siddharta13 2 years ago
I dont understand why science is out to prove that all this diversity in life could come from a "chemical evolution" and in so little time. The more i learn about biology the harder it is to believe this could be so, in fact it only makes it harder to understand how so much could come from nothing.
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Najw 421 I agree with you. There are scientists who believe that life as we know it only became possible because of very, very simple extra terrestrial life forms that were brought to earth by a meteorite impact for example and then evolved to lifeforms as we know them. Interesting theory I think, quite fantastic though.
But just think of how men seem to be unadapted to earths gravity (arthrosis etc.).
LoerdNoerd 2 years ago
Science isn't "out to prove" anything, Najwa421. Science focuses on evidence and is brutally peer reviewed. Also, I'm a bit puzzled at your "so much could come from nothing" comment. Scientists don't think anything came from nothing. However, several mainstream religions believe there was nothing until a magic being spoke, and that sure sounds like something out of nothing to me.
hgryphon 2 years ago
I agree! Science is not "out to prove anything". In fact, as a scientist-to-be, I have learnt that "good science" comes from striving to DISPROVE theories.
Dranzira 2 years ago
I never look at organelles and enzymes as creatures, very good comparison, and even though I'm a student, I never pondered how these bio molecules maintain the cell, my professors make it sound like it is all chemical reactions. But there appears to be something deeper.
crashonthehumble 2 years ago
There's not, crashonthehumble. It is all chemical reactions, per the evidence.
hgryphon 2 years ago
Greetings, I was discussing this matter with a biochemist who also teaches, and he says there are chemical reactions, however, the order of the reactions and how they come into play, is still a great mystery, Brownian motion talks about the movement of these bio molecules but how they function and move in harmony is unknown to science, its the order that puzzle many scientist, seems there is something deeper, Have a bless day.
crashonthehumble 2 years ago
Okay, but that still doesn't make the default position "magic."
Yes, we haven't studied the biomechanics of the cell enough to know exactly what causes things to happen 100% of the time. That doesn't mean we aren't looking, and that doesn't mean we won't know forever.
But to stop looking, toss up one's hands, and declare, "This is the magic of a god!" would be the most ridiculous and lazy conclusion to draw.
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Dranzira 2 years ago
Where was the proof? Know your audience.....
tsferg 2 years ago
Oh yes.... we can't understand it so it MUST have been designed!!!
And the world must be flat.
bluebluestar127 2 years ago
This is beautiful animation but it's lacking name of organelles so it makes the point of this video obsolete to any student trying to look at this. How does this prove intellectual design anyway? It's cool....so it must be? gahhhhhhhh!
kholman123 2 years ago
And another thing...those "creatures" that you say that "live" inside the cell are simple molecules or medium-complexity molecular structures and they obey the laws of physics and chemistry. Their "complicated work" is nothing more than a series chemical reactions most of which have been understood by scientists.
Also, not all cells have the same complex structure. Look up viruses and bacteria to see how simple a cellular organism can get.
h0stI13 2 years ago
ur an Imbecil,probably a liberal fascist 2....
Mr911truther 2 years ago
can you bring some arguments with that?
h0stI13 2 years ago
The Miller-Urey experiment proves that organic materials can be synthesized from inorganic ones via a thermochemical reaction. Fractal geometry offers mathematical evidence that simple rules applied to simple objects repeatedly can generate complex structures after large numbers of iterations.
I think that the event that triggered life's appearance and evolution on Earth was the first occurrence of the chemical reaction that translates a codon(a sequence of 3 nucleotides) into a amino acid.
h0stI13 2 years ago