Unity in diversity

[ArevSyrran]

I know you posted this video about a year and a half ago, but this was a really good video. It reminded me of that old science-fiction motto called IDIC: Infinite diversity in infinite combination. This is where I think the independent magickian has much to say- beyond party lines. Anyway, I enjoyed the video. :-)

[VenusSatanas]

Thank you.. Yes it was during the early days of YT where there was much contention.. and i didnt see the point in arguing with my occult brethren.. so i suggested that they enjoy the diversity that is available here at YT, so we can learn from each other instead of fighting over who is the most righteous and true...

[sillypuppy2]

You should watch the anime air gear if you ever get time to do so. There is a line on the last episode that I think you will find very interesting.

[Luigi84289]

right hand path = pro ignorant child complex. Left Hand path = individuality and acceptance of adult responsibilities. If you always look to a god for comfort and security you are denying yourself a truly fulfilled life.

[deathheim1]

Indeed unity is strength! Ive learned alot from both sides of the magick tree! The darkness has a positive energy if you respect it!

[autumnenergy]

Awesome ! Well said !

[macromi]

you are absolutely right venus, religion is the biggest lie ever told, though i'm sorry to say that Anton lavey and 'child molestor' michael Aquino were in on this fraud as well. thanks to the stupid sky watchers long ago, BAD energy has has gone down generations to gens, and ppl became SELFISH, CYNICAL, HATEFUL, DEPRESSED, LONELY what have you. I'm not saying that primitive ppl were perfect, but at least they knew how to make up and ACKNOWLEDGE the wrongs, and carry on.

[peaceislove7]

SIMPLY AWESOME!

[anongrey]

A noble gesture, but there will always be people who ignorantly let egos get in the way of progress. Ego is good-to a point. This relates to groups of the same belief system, as well as groups with opposing beliefs. Satanism is so sad now, that it's like organized denominations, each claiming superiority. I walk the anonymous solitary path and only share my practices with ones I know can be trusted and relied upon. There just will never be unity as whole, in occult circles or in the world.

[MusiCureSanity]

nice message.

6 billion+ people on planet earth.

none have fallen off yet.

each with their own beliefs and understandings.

words are not enough, but they can help some learn to see truth.

cheers!

[mrspaceman2000]

Beautiful.

[particleion]

Unity will come even if it kills us to get there

Seek Truth

[craftywytch]

Very well said Venus :)

[azazuicifer]

Do I seek to bring enlightenment to others?

Why would I?No let the golems die in darkness.

Why the need to flock and hold hands in some pathetic act of oneness?

This isn't intolerence or ignorence, I'm happy to let others be and follow whatever path they choose. I also study various paths and religious philosophy. Whats my problem?

I'm not going to accept other people's crap!

[VenusSatanas]

I dont take crap either and thats why i made this vid. And fighting with wiccans and pagans, is crap to me..useless crap where nobody wins.

[azazuicifer]

Unity in diversity means accepting all sorts of individuals and their beleifs that are in fact ridiculous. Do I tolerate those who regard Satan as an Alien? As a Symbol? Do I tolerate those who claim ridiculous titles and claim they hold great secrets? Do I tolerate those who would deny Satan?

Why would I?

[VenusSatanas]

You know what ? This video was for the people on youtube who were and still are involved in some battle between wiccans/pagans/satanists. As I said in my video, its not about "accepting" others beliefs but at least giving eachother the respect that we deserve as humans. If you want to hate and that makes your life good, then so be it..I wont judge. I just wont fight and argue when theere is no need.

[azazuicifer]

there is no issue of "hate" here, if that is what you think my post implies you are in error.

I have no fight with Wiccans/pagans simply because they aren't a concern. Other "Satanists" though are an issue as too many choose to dumb down Satanism. Again no argument because it hurts too much when I bang my head against a wall. Don't get me wrong I don't think I'm all knowing and right, I just think too many question little and accept the ludicrous and the dumbed down to readily.

[azazuicifer]

So my answer to those in arguments with others, is don't waste your precious energy. Focus on your own work and if you feel the need to counter others, do so not by arguing but expressing your own personal path. Simply state this is me and my beliefs take it or leave it. I need not your judgement nor your respect.

[VenusSatanas]

yes indeed! i agree

[PeterThenn]

I see dogmatism rearing it's ugly head in the metaphysical community. What's next?

Canon Law and Excommunication. I am not a Satanist or a Wiccan, I am an outsider looking in. But prove I'm wrong, I hope I am.

[zeit23geist]

Strange because I thought Satansim was about worship of the ego (and the ego cannot bear the existence of any other ego, as it says in Quake III, 'frag everyone but yourself'!), or maybe that is my CoS upbringing finding expression?!!

[VenusSatanas]

Yes ive heard it talked of in that way

[Mysticblue1212]

I don't think it could have been put much better. I think EVERYONE in this scuffle knows this in their hearts. It is the ego that is the thing stopping this from ever working.

[K3n3sis]

jesus fucking christ finally someone with a fucking brain, fucking hell

[DruFarley666]

I agree here. I hate it when people put others down to feed their ego, it is really more non-progressive than progressive. Having an ego too big leads to complacency, so we should have a healthy ego but also know our limits.

[VenusSatanas]

I agree, this balance is the key..thank you for your input.. : )

[NoirFelis]

I liked that video very much VenusSatanas. When peoples egos are in the way it usually just causes them to be short-sighted to say the least.

[DragonOverDawn]

Couldn't agree more. Thanks for posting this and keeping common sense alive.

[medulalumosa]

I'm so glad someone finally said this. I can't for the life of me understand why everyone is so busy nitpicking at each other. It really makes no sense. Thanks!

[Witchyshaman]

Well done.....I like it!

[MsDiscord]

Well said, VS :)

[Mercuryrules]

lose not "loose"

[VenusSatanas]

right

[zeit23geist]

I could only work with other Satanists on a superficial level; not sure I could exactly have a love in with those who actually agreed with me, or even understood what I was trying to say; Satanism is an individual path; its not much into love and trust, more like the scientific community who argue a lot with each other, and who are in competition! A Satanist will prefer to have a working luchb with his enemies rather than with his so-called friends.

[pansgrove]

I am a Wiccan and a polyth. pagan and I am totally interested in what you have to say. I wish you would create videos. I went to your page. I would be very interested to know about your healing sigils and your logic begind it.

[HCPROPHETICTIM]

I would agree on many levels.I do believe unity is lacking in every form of belief including mine(Not hard to notice).I would also agree that knowledge is power and those that seek truth and knowledge will be at a higher level not just intellectually but Spiritually.

[ioioiotu]

Then again there are people within the satanic community that are insane

[VenusSatanas]

You will find extremism, and fundamentalism within any path..

[tmafkap]

"We are all different - therefore we are all equal."

(yes, it was a wonderful experience on stickam last night/this morning. Hope to see you and the others there again, soon!

Best regards, Eliphas)

[shortrace]

the more diversity the more roots your unity have to feed itself.. and the more branches to express itself... and this is also the point where the left hand path gotta admit that with no altruism there is no invidualism. with no moderation there will be only collapse.. you can conqure the balance or let it conqure you... climb it or get smashed under it... either way it absolute.

[MystressOfheStars]

I completely agree with this!

I am happy to see another individual that sees the bigger picture.

[AnethSvartalf]

I wonder about some pagans carrying over some bad traits of Christianity into their paths, in this case, the idea that there is one right way of doing things, one right brand of paganism or one right brand of ritual etc. Paganism is, by its nature, diverse. Nature is diverse. Life is diverse.

[Darknen]

very true, very true.