the fact that you uploaded this to YouTube means you actually think this bloodlust required skill. which means you think you are a good player. Either learn to play the game properly or don't play at all, because playing teamgames like HoN is just selfish when you're utter shit at it.
@vernietigert the fact that you commented this video with your full heart means you are a wonderful person who isn't afraid to express hes opinions. I am glad you took the effort to watch all my 1000+ played games and came here to tell me feedback on how to play the game :) I know you wouldn't make assumptions just over this one video. That would be very shellfish like of you and I would have to make sushi out of you!
@JoveeHon I am indeed not afraid to express my opinion. However, I don't need to watch your 1000+ games, because the mere fact you bought Bottle as your starting item and the way you were chasing Arachna already tell me you are not a skilled player.
@vernietigert Oh if that is so, then I don't need to watch the 10+ years you have lived, because the mere fact that you couldn't read, write nor talk when you were 6 months old baby and the way you used diapers that time already tell me that you poop in your pants.
@vernietigert I bought bottle on arachna bot. Team trolled me. Went 4/0 first, then 13/4 later. Whole team that flamed me for buying bottle on arach sucked and didn't get 1 single kill until 15 mins, then they cc'ed with their 4-5 deaths each.
Tell me why bottle on any mid lane hero is bad. Rune whoring works for everyone, not just for mana dependent solo mid heroes like TB.
@Azumongo as first item it's bad because it gives 0 stats. stats are important, most importantly they give you more hp. depending on what hero you play mid you can also get a hatchet and/or a shield, which makes last hitting easier (giving you the 600g for a bottle faster) and reducing damage taken.
when you have a bottle as your first and only item, any decent opponent will bloodlust you with autoattacks and maybe 1 spell/stun
@vernietigert true, stats are important and especially in the beginning, getting insta-killed by heroes like TB is nothing special. Like all items it should be something decided upon the enemy team. If I see that they got no decent mid lane hero and therefore someone like Rampage has to be mid, then I'll gladly buy a bottle with heroes like Soulstealer or other good harassers. If an enemy hero has way less lane control than me, i'll go on the offensive to throw his farming back.
@Azumongo very true. but when you're at a higher rating, there will always be a decent player on the midlane. regardless of what hero he is, he won't be beaten by a player with bottle
@Douxo Orbwalking is attacking a hero without pulling the creeps aggro. By using a skills orb effect, although now they are called attack modifiers... the creeps wont disengage from their original target. You're thinking of animation canceling.
@TheKrii92 no there was a tournament game where cd went bottle first item against defiler mid. Also freshpro used to go bottle first on madman.. But all those before the bottle ferry nerf.
that's such a bad arachna, wtf items did he have? did he not have a rune of blight or hp pot? he couldve used it. And why would he stand so far away for CD? allowing cd to do max dmg with his nuke.
@DelusionalSyko Ty for your input. Will take it into account in future, but the damage is already done and it's too much effort to take the video away from the internet, that I just don't feel like it.
@DelusionalSyko I just like to troll them back :D but stupid comment or not, it's always nice to get that "you got 1 new comment" pic to the front page of youtube ^^
@DelusionalSyko Kidding me? or just trolling? This was epic, not in a good way. Its just, I allways love seeing rly bad players get a kill on another rly rly bad player and post it on youtube and think theyre kings!
@JoveeHon Didn't even want to say that as I have been playing at 1800+ since closed beta and it was never worth the 50% chance of getting the rune bottled and ready for use for the first 2 minutes on corrupted as stats pretty much give him more farm no matter what and he can get the bottle very fast with the attack animation and excellent harass skills.
@ZeroIsMany Thats the reason why you are wrong. You have to realize that this is noob level game. not some 1800+, so on this level at that time it was good plan to buy the bottle as a first item. You can get bloodlust or harash nicely opponent, because you have a good chance that opponent don't even know how to use courier.
I agree that today and when the level and skills of players are better it is a bad plan.
@JoveeHon Could be but as you also know in those days arachna was the scariest (and most often played) solo hero even (though she was much scarier a few patches before cd) and has a passive to boost attack damage so you would usually need some stat items to be able to outlast hit so assuming players are somewhat equally skilled (yes I know how crazy that is with unlimited accounts to boost and shit) you would just have to shutdown arach with some denies.
@JoveeHon Yea. Too bad you only see that in 1/50 of my games if someone isn't expecting that the first gank is on them or if it's a pub someone could have a boosted account but I never play pubs unless I want someone specific on the other team :)
@FlameForm umm.. I dont see the whole map. There is "fog of war" and anyways the clipc is from replay so I could turn even that off from the button on right bottom..
@chiliman93 nah bro, u need stats to mid first up - get bottle afterwards from courier. If you rely on bottle i guarantee u'll get denied creeps and miss out on lots of last hits.
im pretty sure he meant 10 secs after the creeps respawn
jays2716 5 days ago
@jays2716 indeed
JoveeHon 4 days ago
Back when the lvl 1 battles were epic. Too bad they changed it for those fucking competitive players, this change ruined all the fun.
nucabird 1 week ago
bots?
ToonEye 2 weeks ago
@ToonEye tops?
JoveeHon 1 week ago
@JoveeHon what are tops?
ToonEye 1 week ago
@ToonEye top is a toy that can be spun on an axis, balancing on a point.
JoveeHon 1 week ago
@JoveeHon wow you are able to use wikipedia good job bro. Now you can learn how to play hon
ToonEye 6 days ago
@ToonEye Now you can learn to make good comments on Youtube ;)
JoveeHon 6 days ago
@JoveeHon i am able to make them i just asked if you had played against bots. You Sir should learn a lot about youtube and Hon
ToonEye 5 days ago
10 sec bloodlust and 37 sec video haha fail there my stupid
visperia666 3 weeks ago
@visperia666 haha you can't count to 10? fail there stupid
JoveeHon 3 weeks ago
@JoveeHon i can count to 10 and also 37 so eat shit
visperia666 2 weeks ago
@JoveeHon pfft its more than 10 sec, if u dont mean 10 hits ;)
loverspvpworlds 2 weeks ago
the fact that you uploaded this to YouTube means you actually think this bloodlust required skill. which means you think you are a good player. Either learn to play the game properly or don't play at all, because playing teamgames like HoN is just selfish when you're utter shit at it.
vernietigert 1 month ago
@vernietigert the fact that you commented this video with your full heart means you are a wonderful person who isn't afraid to express hes opinions. I am glad you took the effort to watch all my 1000+ played games and came here to tell me feedback on how to play the game :) I know you wouldn't make assumptions just over this one video. That would be very shellfish like of you and I would have to make sushi out of you!
JoveeHon 1 month ago
@JoveeHon I am indeed not afraid to express my opinion. However, I don't need to watch your 1000+ games, because the mere fact you bought Bottle as your starting item and the way you were chasing Arachna already tell me you are not a skilled player.
vernietigert 1 month ago
@vernietigert Oh if that is so, then I don't need to watch the 10+ years you have lived, because the mere fact that you couldn't read, write nor talk when you were 6 months old baby and the way you used diapers that time already tell me that you poop in your pants.
JoveeHon 4 weeks ago
@JoveeHon Well I didn't put that on YouTube to show off with, did I?
vernietigert 4 weeks ago
@vernietigert Well I put this on Youtube to show off, didn't I?
JoveeHon 3 weeks ago
@vernietigert I bought bottle on arachna bot. Team trolled me. Went 4/0 first, then 13/4 later. Whole team that flamed me for buying bottle on arach sucked and didn't get 1 single kill until 15 mins, then they cc'ed with their 4-5 deaths each.
Tell me why bottle on any mid lane hero is bad. Rune whoring works for everyone, not just for mana dependent solo mid heroes like TB.
Azumongo 3 weeks ago
@Azumongo as first item it's bad because it gives 0 stats. stats are important, most importantly they give you more hp. depending on what hero you play mid you can also get a hatchet and/or a shield, which makes last hitting easier (giving you the 600g for a bottle faster) and reducing damage taken.
when you have a bottle as your first and only item, any decent opponent will bloodlust you with autoattacks and maybe 1 spell/stun
vernietigert 3 weeks ago
@vernietigert true, stats are important and especially in the beginning, getting insta-killed by heroes like TB is nothing special. Like all items it should be something decided upon the enemy team. If I see that they got no decent mid lane hero and therefore someone like Rampage has to be mid, then I'll gladly buy a bottle with heroes like Soulstealer or other good harassers. If an enemy hero has way less lane control than me, i'll go on the offensive to throw his farming back.
Azumongo 3 weeks ago
@Azumongo very true. but when you're at a higher rating, there will always be a decent player on the midlane. regardless of what hero he is, he won't be beaten by a player with bottle
vernietigert 3 weeks ago
@vernietigert Although I didn't reach such a rating yet, I am sure it is as you said :p
Guess it's like picking Spy in Team Fortress 2 against a decent team. It's just not the same as when against a bunch of random publics.
Azumongo 2 weeks ago
nice teamate
hookist1 1 month ago
sooo noob game
DevYCd 2 months ago 4
@DevYCd sooo noob comment and not even inventive. Sit down son!
JoveeHon 1 month ago
Brazil 1200 mmr?
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 2 months ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr EU 1500+ beta times. The time before you were even born :)
JoveeHon 2 months ago 3
@JoveeHon LOL, HOKEH HOMIE. VERI BICK PLEIS.
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 2 months ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr juu shäl not spiik tu mii sou streing äksent!
JoveeHon 2 months ago
@JoveeHon jag taler russissk dialekt, yo
ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr 2 months ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr kan vi slogs mot dumheten med bultände hjärta?
JoveeHon 2 months ago
@ObLiViOnZThEkIllEr
nonono this is brazilian 1700+ gameplay.
Dibuxxxx 1 month ago
@Dibuxxxx This is 1500+ USE
JoveeHon 1 month ago
Bottle first, auto attacking not even canceling animations. gg
aspenaspen 2 months ago
@aspenaspen You are correct! We won the game :)
JoveeHon 2 months ago
LoL nabs don't know about power of bottle on 1st lvl
EssTema 2 months ago
@EssTema indeed -.-
JoveeHon 2 months ago
WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH THE BOTTLE? LOL
jascha37 2 months ago
uhm, bottle in these days were actually more viable choices, since the rune spawned at 0:00 and not 2:00
2MoonsFTW 3 months ago 3
@2MoonsFTW Indeed!
JoveeHon 3 months ago
fail
RyanxChew 3 months ago
and i almost cried when saw the bottle and 1st skill learnt
krakenmaken 3 months ago 19
@krakenmaken Let it all out!
JoveeHon 3 months ago 3
I love how people abuse people for their items. I bet they fat.
Masher3600 3 months ago 5
@Masher3600 Never really understood people yapping about other people's items. Who the hell cares what items the guy has if it gets the job done?
BeardyBaldy 3 months ago 2
@BeardyBaldy they mad
JoveeHon 2 months ago
LOL BOTTLE
fritzmixla 3 months ago 5
@fritzmixla LOL CAPSLOCK
JoveeHon 3 months ago 7
Why did Arachna turn around?! dumb shitz ^^
TheEpicShiet 3 months ago
@TheEpicShiet where did he turn around? :o
JoveeHon 3 months ago
@JoveeHon He ran away, he would have killed him..
TheEpicShiet 3 months ago
@TheEpicShiet Maybe he noticed the bottle
JoveeHon 3 months ago
14 people are noobs
djbball1231 4 months ago 3
@djbball1231 and you are racist!
JoveeHon 4 months ago
@JoveeHon why thank you
djbball1231 4 months ago
@djbball1231 your welcome
JoveeHon 4 months ago
What a pointless video. Bad player against bad player, this like the 1400 bracket?
Deadlyphase 4 months ago
@Deadlyphase 1500+ beta times.
JoveeHon 4 months ago
The art of moving and attacking at the same time? What is Orbwalk for 500
Douxo 4 months ago
@Douxo wanha
JoveeHon 4 months ago
@Douxo Orbwalking is attacking a hero without pulling the creeps aggro. By using a skills orb effect, although now they are called attack modifiers... the creeps wont disengage from their original target. You're thinking of animation canceling.
TheHighCouncil 4 months ago
i almost cried at the sight of the bottle on cd..
TheOldPerculier 4 months ago 34
@TheOldPerculier awww.. It's ok to cry :) Don't worry. When you grow up, you might not cry so much, but its ok then also
JoveeHon 4 months ago
nvm hard to get u to the right tune xD
tnu7 5 months ago
@tnu7 yeah sorry :D too many trolls have commented this video for me to take anything serious anymore xD
JoveeHon 5 months ago
yea that was lucky , buy boots and lvl 2 nd spell sure kill when u lane with someone who has slow or stun
or other team dont buy boots xD
tnu7 5 months ago
@tnu7 but i was mid, and opponent had slow :o
JoveeHon 5 months ago
@tnu7 or i should say "could have had slow"
JoveeHon 5 months ago
wow why u dont lvl 2nd spell first on cd? wtf xD the best spell u have:D
tnu7 5 months ago
@tnu7 So i could have firstblood obv :P
JoveeHon 5 months ago
Check out my vid. Got double tap first min agasint double lane with solo devo.
1700+ psr ftw
ChipHDGamer 5 months ago
and, now?
xXxKlingexXx 5 months ago
@xXxKlingexXx now you concede
JoveeHon 5 months ago
@JoveeHon aha haahha XD
xXxKlingexXx 5 months ago
bottle on corrupted as first item wow just wow
saman11122 5 months ago
@saman11122 Its actually Hon, not Wow :)
JoveeHon 5 months ago
@JoveeHon Comedian of the year?
saman11122 5 months ago 4
@saman11122 sure thing
JoveeHon 5 months ago
I like how you can reply so calmly to all the insults no matter how rude lol
AMGrevolution 6 months ago 2
@AMGrevolution :D ty
JoveeHon 5 months ago
MUCH MORE THAN 10 SEC NOOB
MrMETALBeST 6 months ago
@MrMETALBeST I counted myself!
JoveeHon 5 months ago
haha more like 20 sec and you both were noobs
Simoong94 6 months ago
@Simoong94 cool story bro 5/5 :thumb up:
JoveeHon 5 months ago
@JoveeHon you actually are a noob. why the fuck don't you run in between those slow ass level one auto attacks?
ikir14 5 months ago
@ikir14 u mad bro? xD I tried to awoid the black hole, that is not visible in the video
JoveeHon 5 months ago
bottle first.
ikir14 6 months ago
@ikir14 boots last
JoveeHon 5 months ago
noob
NaGuRoLawl 6 months ago
@NaGuRoLawl who is?
JoveeHon 6 months ago
@NaGuRoLawl boobs
JoveeHon 5 months ago
tide 1st skill? conduit is better, arach noob anyways cant orb walk
t3kn0l0v3r 6 months ago
GEEZUS WHY WOULD YOU EVEN RECORD THIS SHIT!!
liketheusp 6 months ago
@liketheusp So that you could get mad over a youtube video lol :DD
JoveeHon 6 months ago
lol
I3nKacPon 6 months ago
worst title ever...
its not even 10 sec...pffff
xD
HoNgamers145 6 months ago
@HoNgamers145 tell me better one then?
JoveeHon 6 months ago
whats wrong with bottle first best regen you can get
nedflanderz 6 months ago
arachna didnt even heal himself wtf noob
shadowcurtain 6 months ago
Wow i really miss rune at 0:00 <3
zlythoMan 7 months ago
Stopped watching when I saw the bottle
Jalledrengen12 7 months ago 30
@Jalledrengen12 Well not my loss, since it still counts to the views ;D
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@Jalledrengen12 even pro players go bottle first item.
Iizardkingz 6 months ago 2
@Iizardkingz
rofl u kidding me :D ?
TheKrii92 6 months ago
@TheKrii92 no there was a tournament game where cd went bottle first item against defiler mid. Also freshpro used to go bottle first on madman.. But all those before the bottle ferry nerf.
Iizardkingz 6 months ago
@TheKrii92 kidings xD
JoveeHon 6 months ago
wow, damn you are so pro with your bottle and that skills you have , gosh
Typhoonisgood 7 months ago
@Typhoonisgood Ty very much :) Glad you think so.
JoveeHon 7 months ago
nice bottle bro
cretonism 7 months ago
@cretonism ty bro
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@JoveeHon
sup bro
TheKrii92 6 months ago
@TheKrii92 maybe some juked videe. you?
JoveeHon 6 months ago
that's such a bad arachna, wtf items did he have? did he not have a rune of blight or hp pot? he couldve used it. And why would he stand so far away for CD? allowing cd to do max dmg with his nuke.
Vi3tSurviv3r 8 months ago
@Vi3tSurviv3r dunno. didn't watch that closely
JoveeHon 6 months ago
Nice bottle bro!~
RazorsBM 8 months ago
@RazorsBM :D was approved by the best players ;) pay attention on your history classes
JoveeHon 8 months ago
@JoveeHon you don't have to do it because n0tail's the only one doing it brah, it works for him for some reasons.
LaMereACaniche 8 months ago
@LaMereACaniche You ever seen n0tail gotten bloodlust this fast?
JoveeHon 8 months ago
@JoveeHon ever seen any competitive player faceraping each other without moving? that's what I thought.
LaMereACaniche 7 months ago
@LaMereACaniche Don't answer a question with a question! That's just rude son.
Oh and btw. nice thoughts :)
JoveeHon 7 months ago
noob vs noober
TaylorCST 8 months ago 5
@TaylorCST noob comment
JoveeHon 8 months ago
@JoveeHon noober comment
TruNinja69 8 months ago
@TruNinja69 noobiest comment
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@JoveeHon touche
TruNinja69 7 months ago
@TruNinja69 ^_^
JoveeHon 7 months ago
that was so fucking awesome i have never seen anything like that! please sent it to honcast im sure it will be on the next weeks top 10!!!!
zedriax93 8 months ago
@zedriax93 This already made it to the top 10s, when this was recent so I don't think they take it again after a year or smth :/
JoveeHon 8 months ago
@JoveeHon
I was ironic, its so fucking sad that u put this on utube
zedriax93 7 months ago
@zedriax93 I was ironic, its so fucking sad that u watched this on utube
JoveeHon 7 months ago
and the kill wasnt even in 10 sec, more like 20
jensendk15 8 months ago
@jensendk15 Says 10 secs on the clock :D
JoveeHon 8 months ago
Not very good lol...
HygaoH0N 8 months ago
Bottle CD opener herpppppp
artifex137 9 months ago
@artifex137 deeeerrp
JoveeHon 9 months ago
This really wasn't amazing...just a regular bloodlust kill. Not worth putting up.
DelusionalSyko 9 months ago
@DelusionalSyko Ty for your input. Will take it into account in future, but the damage is already done and it's too much effort to take the video away from the internet, that I just don't feel like it.
JoveeHon 9 months ago
@JoveeHon So you have to stick with the HoN troll's commenting stupid shit? Lol. I couldn't take it!
DelusionalSyko 9 months ago
@DelusionalSyko I just like to troll them back :D but stupid comment or not, it's always nice to get that "you got 1 new comment" pic to the front page of youtube ^^
JoveeHon 9 months ago
@DelusionalSyko Kidding me? or just trolling? This was epic, not in a good way. Its just, I allways love seeing rly bad players get a kill on another rly rly bad player and post it on youtube and think theyre kings!
flotyrmunken 9 months ago
@flotyrmunken I am king!.... and Raven!
JoveeHon 7 months ago
just fast...
why start with bottle?
its sux so hard
the only one i know who can control to have a bottle from start is Notail, but he is also Danish pro xD
jensendk15 9 months ago
@jensendk15 not even notail would ever get it at star on cd lol
ZeroIsMany 9 months ago
@ZeroIsMany i know its so bad...
jensendk15 9 months ago
@jensendk15 Funny thing is that he didn't start with bottle that often back when we had 0:00 runes :D
ZeroIsMany 9 months ago
@ZeroIsMany U guys are so pro as you know stuff about n0tail and all xD
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@JoveeHon All I meant on with that is that not even one good player would see any reason to do that.
ZeroIsMany 7 months ago
@ZeroIsMany You forgot the word "anymore" from the end of your sentence ;) You did play the game at beta didn't you?
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@JoveeHon Didn't even want to say that as I have been playing at 1800+ since closed beta and it was never worth the 50% chance of getting the rune bottled and ready for use for the first 2 minutes on corrupted as stats pretty much give him more farm no matter what and he can get the bottle very fast with the attack animation and excellent harass skills.
ZeroIsMany 7 months ago
@ZeroIsMany Thats the reason why you are wrong. You have to realize that this is noob level game. not some 1800+, so on this level at that time it was good plan to buy the bottle as a first item. You can get bloodlust or harash nicely opponent, because you have a good chance that opponent don't even know how to use courier.
I agree that today and when the level and skills of players are better it is a bad plan.
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@JoveeHon Could be but as you also know in those days arachna was the scariest (and most often played) solo hero even (though she was much scarier a few patches before cd) and has a passive to boost attack damage so you would usually need some stat items to be able to outlast hit so assuming players are somewhat equally skilled (yes I know how crazy that is with unlimited accounts to boost and shit) you would just have to shutdown arach with some denies.
ZeroIsMany 7 months ago
@ZeroIsMany Or with nice 10 secs kill xD
JoveeHon 7 months ago
@JoveeHon Yea. Too bad you only see that in 1/50 of my games if someone isn't expecting that the first gank is on them or if it's a pub someone could have a boosted account but I never play pubs unless I want someone specific on the other team :)
ZeroIsMany 7 months ago
lol.. starting with bottle mid-.-
emi1iomodesty 10 months ago
@emi1iomodesty :E
JoveeHon 7 months ago
Worst Arachna i have ver seen and worst CD i have ever seen.
herzaaaaa 11 months ago 42
@herzaaaaa Yes it was the noob times <3
JoveeHon 11 months ago 21
did u use map hack or what? how come you could see the whole map clearly?
FlameForm 11 months ago
@FlameForm umm.. I dont see the whole map. There is "fog of war" and anyways the clipc is from replay so I could turn even that off from the button on right bottom..
JoveeHon 11 months ago
@FlameForm are u blind?
jensendk15 9 months ago
worst arach i ve ever seen...
Dgio59 1 year ago
10 sec? more like 20
densejevictor 1 year ago
@densejevictor 10 sec on game clock ;) but you are right. killing took more, but it still made a good name for the video :P
JoveeHon 1 year ago
If you had haste i'm not gonna watch it, watching it anyways
Jalledrengen12 1 year ago
@Jalledrengen12 No rune at all. Just bottle
JoveeHon 1 year ago
This is trash.. bottle first item is REALLY bad especially mid
isaiahlemmon51 1 year ago
@isaiahlemmon51 it not the most bad item mid
if someone get a courier you never have to get back play bit esl you know what i mean
:D
Linkinpark13372008 1 year ago
@isaiahlemmon51 Bottle first item is super good on CD wtf
chiliman93 1 year ago
@chiliman93 nah bro, u need stats to mid first up - get bottle afterwards from courier. If you rely on bottle i guarantee u'll get denied creeps and miss out on lots of last hits.
opandaball 1 year ago 2
@isaiahlemmon51 espescially on mid?
its even worse on sidelane ofc
but its not the best miditem at the start
u have no attackdamage and get outlasthitted easily
and u must rely on rune luck if courir is not made flying early
if u go stat items u can farm bottle pretty fast
dimant 1 year ago