This is absolute horseshit. There is NO evidence that wind turbines kill anything. I have walked around loads of sites like this and never found anything dead,birds or bats. I also have a turbine on my roof and the birds sit on it when its spinning,they dont give a shit..
NUMBER OF ANIMALS KILLED IN THE UNITED STATES BY CARS ANNUALLY: * 41 million squirrels * 26 million cats * 22 million rats * 19 million opossums * 15 million raccoons * 6 million dogs * 350,000 deer
NOT TO MENTION INSECTS AND BIRDS.
NUMBER OF BIRDS KILLED BY DOMESTIC CATS IN THE US ANNUALLY:
1 BILLION, AND THAT IS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
SORRY IF I'M BORING YOU WITH THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE PICTURES OR VIDEO.
Obviously people will use this as a political tool to bash renewables but what this research shows is that we need to work on protecting the bats and making sure they are not flying anywhere near the turbines. This number of bat deaths most likely pales into insignificance when compared to the loss of bats through pollution and habitat destruction. We know how bats communicate and locate their prey. It could be as simple as mounting ultrasound emitters to turbines? To scare them away. Research!
@mugaliens Sadly, the grubbermint will probably throw billions of the taxpayer's money at a fix which doesn't work. Either that, or when the pressure-resistant bats will grow in numbers about the time the grubbermint's 20-year program reaches a crescendo and the grubbermint will lay false claim to the success.
You gotta lose something to get something. I rather lose a bird then lose a person getting cancer type of disease cause by polluted environment. When we cut trees to make something no one says a word. Trees has life too like us. Why worry about birds? Some people just worry about small stupid things. I don't understand who fund those university graduate freaks. No wonder we are in recession. Just install a Ultra sonic or bird can hear instrument on those blade. It might help to scare away birds.
Better build more nuke plants then. The bats will glow in the dark, they will be better off. You know, I don't think pumping oil out of the Earth and burning it, and crashing ships full of oil into rocks has killed a single animal. I bet all the fossil fuels that we have been burning since the late 1800's hasn't caused any health problems for people either. When London was overcome with smog in 1952, that was just a leftist conspiracy, I know because Palin told me.
The eagle-conservation plan now being proposed by the USFWS would give nesting eagles a ten mile buffer from wind turbine sites. The plan missed two key points (1)it should pertain just to the deadly propeller style wind turbine. This would give the wind industry incentive to move away from the industry's 220 mph tip speed killers. It would also spare many other bird species from inevitable slaughter and (2) It needs to be a felony to hide carcasses of protected species killed at wind farms.
Being a Wildlife biologist with decades of observations, I know as well as anyone the integrity of the wind industry. I have read their rigged Environmental Impact Reports. I have yet to see an honest one. Remember the primary goal for these corporations it to get their hands on the taxpayers money. If they would lie about the impacts to Condors, Whopping Cranes and Eagles, they would lie about anything including energy projections. In the end the taxpayers and wildlife are the big losers.
Propeller Style Wind Turbines spinning with 220 blade tip speeds, kill everything that flies. When they are put into the habitats of rare and endangered species they become the number one killer of these species. There has been a wind industry cover-up about these turbines for over 25 years. Today access to all wind farms in North America is severely limited so a lid can be kept on this information. Laws are needed to make it a felony to hide the deaths of rare and endangered species.
@WiegandsWindow Far more rare and endangered species will go extinct from anthropogenic climate change. If we are to switch to a 100% renewable energy situation, windpower will need to be a part of the mix. A necessary evil perhaps.
What you call Climate change I call mankind devouring the surface of this planet. These wind turbines are just part of the madness. A truly green wind industry would have moved on to new advanced wind turbine designs instead of settling for the propeller style and then lying about the impacts. To fortify their cover-up they have an army of mercenary experts to produce bogus studies and have lobbied in Washington to give them laws that absolve them from killing endangered species.
@uknowispeaksense If we are to use wind power, we need to use wildlife-friendly designs. There ARE such designs out there but the wind industry in its current incarnation isn't interested - they have their money in the archaic, deadly, inefficient models that cause wildlife mortality, habitat destruction and human health problems. It's not 'wind or no wind', it's about using those big brains we're all so proud of to develop a truly SMART &TRULY GREEN design that is wildlife-friendly & efficient.
@HSFootballMoms my understanding is that the current designs are the most efficient but that aside, be careful presenting your arguments with unsubstantiated claims about effects on human health. A search of the scientific literature only brings up anecdotal self-reported health effects...very unscientific. You will only cheapen your argument and people won't take you seriously.
Yes, that's interesting ...ok so we change the design go to a different design...It is about time, daa.. don't you remeber these big 'Propellas on a Stick' were designed back in the early 1970's...making a BIGGER 'Propella on a BIGGER Stick' is definately not much progress for 40 years!!?? ..how many presidents have we had since Jimmy Carter??
@archsticks The wind turbines of today bear as much resemblance to the wind turbines of the 70's as a 747 does to a Bleriot -- Both have two wings, a tail, and wheels underneath, but that doesn't make them the same. In the same way, today's wind turbines have 3 blades, and are mounted on a mast, but that's the only similarity. It will be very hard to eliminate sudden pressure drops, since pressure differentials are the entire operating principle of any wind power generation device.
Who thought we were going to see a bat explode? They could have just left the title there with no video and I would have believed that Wind turbines can make bats lungs explode.
Its like when you turn up the volume on a Marshall amp, the pressure hits you in your guts, except the small creatures it blows their guts apart inside. Great way to make use of old out dated technology in the way of windmills and killing small animals. Humans were gifted with nuclear power, so stupid not to use that.
@Penguingrim HAHAHAAA typical human, the daiichi nuclear power plants were built 30+ years ago i believe. Incorporating todays technology into Nuclear Power is the future, until we figure out how to harness the Natural power that the planet emitts, kinda like wireless power, Tesla was on to it.
@squibblejack I understand their are certain humans out their that want to keep their heads buried in the sand and keep humanity on old technologies, trapped, live for the past. ALL THINGS HAVE DISADVANTAGES and ADVANTAGES, im surprised you can think for yourself quit frankly mr. Penguingrim. The advantages of todays nuclear power plants far out weigh your minuscule but deadly to small creatures wind turbines mr. Penguingrim, that were mostly manufactured by GE corp years ago...
@squibblejack yes because thats definatly what i said... you = fail... you can use a wind turbin to power up a genoator for a while then go to space dick chaod
If a wind turbine's blades kill more bugs than ten bats can eat, it's still a plus.
Ordinarry electric downstepping transformers have been doing in curious raccoons and squirrels "forever," but that hasn't hurt the demand for household current.
@ronaldli5 No they collected dead bats around the turbines, since it happens quite often, there were probably a lot around in different places that have turbines around that area with the same problem.
@DXkiraXN they said they collected bats or sth. i dont know from the shitty accent the bitch was using. i could hear the other parts if i strained to ehar them, but just at that part, i cant hear properly.
@ronaldli5 lol yah i had a problem too when i heard this one and also b/c i thought what they were raising with those ropes was a box with a bat inside but i think it was a piece of equipment once i replayed the video i'm pretty sure they just got them from around the turbines :D
people dont realize that wind farms are way better that nitrous oxides, sulfur oxides, and co2 thats being spewed in the environment. have you ever been near a coal plant. god any negative press against renewable energy is retarded. why promote unnecesary fear over the most important change that man has to make. sustainabiility!!!
@heyshutupyou Yes unfortunately people are afraid of change. People become rebelious and event violent when change is happening. I would hope that everyone would agree that the benefits of renewable energy way outway the use of non renewable energy. Fossil fuels should remain fossils.
@MandalayWind Happy New Year. I took some time off for the holiday period. I've debated with you elsewhere on the fallacies of including other hazards to wildlife in the debate on the hazards that IWTs introduce to wildlife. As per the use of combustible fuels (oil,gas,coal,wood, garbage) vs non-combustibles (wind, solar, nuclear, tidal, geothermal), its always a matter of efficiency vs cost, isn't it? And isn't it true that we can't rely on any one power generation method?
@MandalayWind I hardly think Wind Turbines represent "change". Fundamentally IWTs represent the application of "old technology" using modern engineering techniques to scale up to gargantuan size. How many times have we (humans) used "the bigger the better" as a principle of change? I repeat, we should be using the small scale tech (like what you sell) subsidized to end consumers to remove people from the grid. Not GIANT 600ft IWTs that only serve to increase demand for GAS generation!
@heyshutupyou Well I've never been near a coal plant. Nor would I choose to buy property near a coal plant. However, the issue with IWTs in my country is that they are appearing all over the countryside without any input, recourse, or remediation for the thousands of non-particpating residents who never had the opportunity to have a choice. People are losing property value. 10-15% of the people have some sort of impact once they're turned on. Bats do die. IWTs kill birds. Real impacts.
Yeah, I don't think I believe all that crap about the blades creating low preasure and expanding lungs of bats. Air preasure in lungs is a continually equalizing condition. No way they should expand too much due to air preasure. Divers lungs only rupture from expansion if the diver holds their breath on assent. If the airway is opened the lungs continually equalize. I am a registered resue diver and have been diving since 1974. I know what I'm talking about.
Millions and Millions and Millions of birds, animals, insects are killed each year by oil. It's called hitting them with your car. Do some research before making a huge stink over a millifraction of the deaths caused by automobiles. Our planets environment is more important than the bats that will lose their lives in the battle. To win the war you have to fight some battles. UTUBERS STOP THE IGNORANT STATEMENTS FOR COAL AND OIL. PLEASE. IF ANOTHER PERSON FAVORS OIL INSTEAD I'M LEAVING PLANET.
Bat -> Insect Control -> Stops spread of viruses carried by many insects.
Lets take bats out of the equation:
Bats suddenly go "Poof" -> Uncontroled insects -> Diseases like Malaria spread rapidly via insects like mosquitos -> Disease spreads to people -> People are infected and start dying rapidly -> Epidemics.
Whos winning the war now?
Don't like oil and our machines? Then leave like you said you would.
so if a skydiver jumps out of a plane jest behind the the wing (which is a bigger pressure difference than off a turbine blade) will his lungs explode?
@CWS1971 Or to be on the more technical side (your comment was funny :D ) they could install a machine that puts out a certain frequency that leads the bat to believe there is mass all around that area. Like a layer of ions that reflect the sonar signitures back to the little fellas and make them think there are hills or cliff side surrounding the turbines. I'll admit, just cuz an animal dies doesnt mean we shouldnt use wind turbine free energy. (well free for the elite corporations)
@wyattlisadana There might be a slight difference between the 60 metre blades of a commercial turbine, & the children's hand held windmill on your house! lol
@hiyadroogs maybe you could explain the dynamics my superior genius. Bat lungs exploding and pigs flying its all related. How shall we design a wind turbine that is perfect. MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST CONTINUE BURROWING INTO THE EARTH EXTRACTING AND POLLUTING. It's kinda like reaching into a recently used toilet pulling out the contents and throwing it into a fan. !!!!!!
@wyattlisadana Everything we humans do, impacts the planet. There isn't a right/wrong way to generate energy - its just a bunch of tradeoffs between cost/benefit/impacts. In the case of Industrial Wind Turbines (300-600ft tall), the industry has aggressively marketed that there is effectively NO impact on the environment. As a result you have sites going up in bird flyways, near conservation areas, in nature reserves, etc. We fined an oil co in Canada $3m for 1200 bird deaths. $0 for IWTs.
@wyattlisadana And yes it is absolutely proven that this is true. Even the Wind industry is concerned although no one has figured what, if anything, can be done to impact this. One study suggests that the 500ft towers and blades be painted purple to attract fewer insects. Another has suggested changing start up wind speeds from 8mph to 11-12mph. A third has suggested turning them off in areas/seasons with peak bat activity. It is a real impact of IWTs -NOT the little wind mills used for homes.
With over 100,000 wind turbines world wind we are still waiting for the first coal plant to close. But we can follow the billions of dollars spent on this modern day feel good project. We can also track the increase in the cost of electricity by having our government force us to buy a product that can not compete on its own. windpowerfacts.info
good point Rex , we need to exterminate all insects that way they can no longer spread things like the West Niles virus or AIDS as well as any animal that is not in our food chain for example and everyone is encouraged to sing along to the unicorn song we need to get rid of green alligators and long neck geese humpty back camels and chimpanzees bats and rats and elephants ok well keep some for zoos
@dahduke Don't worry about the insects, dahduke. They were here hundreds of millions of years before man got here, & they'll still be here hundreds of millions of years after we become extinct. : )
This is true, bats have been casualties of turbine blades which travel at 150 to 300 miles per hour WHEN OPERATING. USA studies have shown that only low level blade speeds cause bat mortality when the turbine is not producing energy and is only 'free-wheeling' adjustments to operation software can lock down the blades in low wind conditions and virtually eliminate bat kills, and this is being done throughout the industry. Also, this problem is most preveaent on the East Coast.
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Think about it people, wind turnbines don't create that much air pressure. I think the people at the University of Crap-gary need to find something better to do with their time.
Personally I think it would be a good idea to start looking at large-scale application of vertical-axis cylindrical turbines instead of these. They can be made on a large enough scale, but are less likely to kill local wildlife.
You know bats hear better than the rest of us, and I bet someone could attach a device that would make a noize that would warn a bat of the danger or be so anoying the they would just stay away from the blades.
@Manitobah Some Japanese researchers recently managed to get a tokamak to produce more output heat than they were feeding it with for about five minutes. I'd say that's a step in the right direction, at least. Who knows? Maybe within the next hundred years, we'll see fusion reactors being used as a practical source of power. My opinion on the matter is that politicians who are wind/solar advocates shouldn't try to get funding for fusion cut simply because they don't like the idea.
what a load of horse shit.bats have brilliant echo location and can avoid most things ,why would they not be able to locate around a wind turbine?
the real reason for the bat deaths is some simple minded locals that have dislike to progress and dumped some dead bats near the turbines.they with be throwing dead hedgehogs and cute bunnies next saying they are drawn to the hypnotic spin and hum of the turning blades.
But more widely to this particular pb, may we not forget that : BATS, alike ALL OTHER FORMS OF LIVING, especialy animal ones, ARE SACRED PARTS of an ALIVE, WISEFULL FEED-BACK FULL EQUILIBRIUM that WE, human, are surely PART OF, but NOT the center and CERTAINLY NOT the most important! Sory for huge EGO devotes! We, human beings are invited to participate respetfuly to the global equilibrium of Nature, and NOT TO MESS IT UP FOR THE IRRESPONSABLE SAKE OF OUR WILLS OF CAPRICIOUS CONFORT!
Turbines have flash lightening at night that brings flying insctes in mass near the head of the pole so the bats hunting are driven close to the turning blades. Many simple solutions can be tested : 1-puting the flash light on the turning blades instead of on the pole - might solve the pb but still creates light that atracts insects and bats 2- Puting reflectors instead of lights since airplanes have their own lights and painting the propelers ends in red or fluo; might be the best
Reflectors won't work because planes don't have lights on when flying, just beacons. Also most wind farms have active beacons which only flash when radar determines that airplanes are near, otherwise they are off because all the tree huggers whined about light pollution. I say leave them alone, and eventually the bats will learn not to fly there, or else they die...it has nothing to do with the circle of life or human interaction.
I also believe the bats will eventually adapt, and stop flying around these. Hopefully this adaptation wont hurt them or the ecosystem in any other way. (I'm not a tree hugger)
As someone mentioned before, the first thing that came to my mind too is that they should be installing those infrasound devices now if they want to prevent this from happening..
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First off, holding your breath would be the only way for a scuba diver's lungs to explode as the pressure would be equalized everytime you exhale and inhale. I think the video is referring to "the bends" which has to do with blood and not lung pressure from surfacing too quickly.
Personally I could care less about bats. If they were smart creatures they would just stay away from the turbines, but of course we will probably have some tree huggers complaining about it now.
There are 3 problems a scuba diver must worry about. Oxygen toxicity can't be the problem because the bat isn't under water, and nitrogen narcosis isn't an issue either for the same reason. As for the bends it deals with a nitrogen gas bubble in the blood stream, not blood in the lungs, and I have been a scuba diver for almost 10 years now, and I have never heard of a single injury or death where someone's lungs exploded. Sure bats are dying, but it isn't related to scuba type injuries.
@travelbytommy : 'pain in the ass' was for your stupid coment regardless of the bats life! You get it? What the hell is the fuking PB with human beings, so that they think they endlessly disearve to behave like the center of the world and eradicate laughting whatever they wish just to make their fucking ass little more confortable??? This type of irresponsable coments disrespectfull for others life is just typical of modern occidental egotripik pain in the ass blindness. That's all!
personally I think eco types like whining more than they do fixing problems. They whined for a long time that we need more wind farms as eco-friendly power production, and now that we have a bunch of wind farms they whine that it isn't eco-friendly. It is the same way eco-terrorist groups use arson to protest urban growth...of course companies get insurance money and cut down more trees to rebuild the same house thereby making their statement even worse. What a bunch of morons.
I'm sure there would be a rather simple way to keep them away from the turbines, using the same technique they use at airports to avoid birds getting stuck in jet engines. They use infra sounds or ultrasounds, I'm not sure, but it works. There are probably another technique that works on bats as well...
Well. Here we go. Next we'll either be putting bat nets around every wind turbine, or we'll stop using them all together. Just wait until PETA gets hold of this info. These new agers won't stop until every human on earth (except for them of course) has been wiped off the planet. Want to make sure Al Gore and the rest of the elites have a nice world to rule.
@thesixtiesguy You don't want to try and live in a world without bats. You'd be surprised how many of our foods, for instance, are pollinated only by bats. Not to mention the millions of tons of insects these guys eat every night. This has nothing to do with 'bunny-hugging' - it has to do with keeping our entire food chain from experiencing total collapse.
@thesixtiesguy i say this everytime someone mentions peta...but its funny, so many people in PETA complainin about animal rights...when alot of them...use makup XD which contains whale blubber....most of em just want somethin to complain about
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The way this information should used, is to figure out ways to warn bats and birds away. But if that is the worse consequence of wind farms, then that is a relatively cheap price to pay.
The video makers should have titled this; winds turbine cause bats to drown in own blood, if their theory is correct. They can't really know for sure until they measure the actual pressure drop, and subject some poor sacrificial bat to the same changes in the lab.
Actually it is very possible for you to burst the air sacs in the lungs diving. It is called pulmonary barotrauma and is caused when air in the lungs expands faster than a diver can exhale. That is why you are taught to do emergency ascents while exhaling. This is caused by changes in pressure.
wrong that is a false fact about scuba diving you dont blow up your lungs gas bubbles out of your blood and blocks the flow of blood in other words "the bends"
...Are you even a scuba diver? I've been certified for quite a while now, and you CAN have your lungs explode while diving if you hold your breath while going up. If you are a diver, you would know that this is possible, and is caused by air expansion. Duh.
plus in the video they say "the same thing can happen to scuba divers if the ascend to fast" they dont say anything about holding your breath get your facts straight
Respectfully both yourself hunybuns missed the problem with the video, that this drylander spootted, the lungs did NOT explode. They discovered that the BLOOD VESSELS IN THE LUNGS EXPLODED causing the bats to drown in their own blood. I wouldn't have the clue if human divers that fail to decompress properly would experience the same or not.
This is propaganda and very bad science, not even student quality science. Facts: - Dead bats are found near windturbines - Their lungs are hurt Unknown: - Can pesitcide be the cause? - are dead bats found elsewhere also having long problems? - have they experimented with healty bats, near the blades? - have they measured the pressure variation near the blades? - Trafiic will generate similar of bigger pressure variations, have they evaluated dead bats near highways? This is just propaganda
I'm not saying it is because I do not know, but it would be propaganda if the research was sponsored by investors and supporters of, lets say, gas or solar power. Its obvious there are interest groups/ lobbyists out there that are adamant about keeping homeowners from having nature energy sources. The energy companies would lose out on huge profits. Thats how it could be propaganda. Propaganda is just "information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause"
do these bats not know that they are giving fodder to the anti envrionmentalist's? Obama and Al GOre will definitely have to silence them ! Zeig heil Obama!
Probably few people will care about bats being killed until a few years hence when they find they are swatting far more flies and mosquitoes and are unable to enjoy a picnic in the park for all the bugs that get stuck in the food.
@TheLiptonGroup "PRIVATE PROPERTY" is a human EGOTISTICAL invention, not a phenomenon of nature. You and the 8 who gave you thumbs up are ignorant cocksmacks.
This is not in regards to any specific comment(s), I'm just wondering...Why do some people try to seperate solar and wind power by saying one is better than the other? Would you put up solar panels where there is a lot of wind and the sun never shines? Would you put up a wind farm in a place where it's always sunny but rarely windy? They are both good when placed in the proper setting.
And how about solar? Not big solar farms but solar arrays on individual homes. Most states offer significant subsidies not to mention federal tax credits, utility company interest free loans and buyback of excess power. That seems like a win win win for all!
Yeah, that's what the people behind these plans TELL you, but who knows what their real intentions are.
We could have had solar/wind/geothermal/nuclear plants running safely and efficiently by now if we would have had the right agencies overseeing how their respective plants were built! Its just like the problem we have with fiber optic cable not being in every city, we gave the big companies enough money, but they wasted it all on their CEOs.
I do not oppose small turbines for home power generation. But 400 ft turbines in rural areas are destroying landscapes as well as not delivering on the "green" promise. Google "the problem with wind."
Google "you're a giant idiot who can't see other solutions to a problem"
You put wind turbines and solar panels, ones that have been slimmed down and are super-efficient on every rooftop of every building in a city. You set aside large fields and parts of lakes/oceans for larger turbines and solar arrays.
You then back these collectors up with your hydro/coal/gas and nuclear plants and you create a very stable power system that's a bit cleaner than what we have now.
If you have a good argument, you don't have to insult people. I originally put up the google quote suggestion because this youtube comment site would not let me put up a link to the article, "The Problem With Wind."
The only sustainable, clean solution is dramatically lowered electricity use. We are destroying the environment for our so-called affluence. The future will look more like the past than the present.
"The only sustainable, clean solution is dramatically lowered electricity use."
That's the most unsustainable solution imaginable. You would prompt billions of humans to spread out and tear down every single tree in existance for the sake of firewood and farmland.
"We are destroying the environment for our so-called affluence."
The earth's crust contains 3 ppm U and 10 ppm Th. An average tonne of crust(not ore, just junk) contains the equivalent of 140 barrels of oil worth of nuclear fuel.
Your fear of nuclear energy and of energy abundance is the only reason coal is still being burnt. ~1 million people die from coal particulates each year and the amount of mercury, cadmium, NOx, SOx and other toxic crap dumped into the environment is terrifying.
soylentgreenb: I recommend the DVD : The Power of Community How Cuba Survived Peak Oil. People can adjust to less available energy. They did not destroy their land, instead planted sustainable, organic gardens. And their forests are increasing, too.
"You put wind turbines and solar panels, ones that have been slimmed down and are super-efficient on every rooftop of every building in a city."
The yearly average insolation is between 50 W/m^2 and 250 W/m^2 in the inhabited world; that's not a lot and that's the most you could ever get.
Efficient photovoltaics are very pricey and there's nothing on the horizon to change that. As a result the only thing that gets installed is pretty much the cheapest, crappiest polycrystaline panels.
There's no such thing as super-efficient wind turbines. Betz' law limits their efficiency and there's very little head room to improve them. You can make them more cost effective by making them bloody huge and placing the nacelle higher above the ground.
This is exactly why small wind turbines are so bloody useless; apart from the hideous, high-frequency swishing noise they make(which makes it very difficult to place them on roof tops near people, I'd certainly never go along with it quitely).
"You then back these collectors up with your hydro/coal/gas and nuclear plants and you create a very stable power system that's a bit cleaner than what we have now."
Very high cost, non-existent benefit.
Not a single coal or gas turbine will shut down as a result of wind and solar power(see Denmark and Germany for reference). If you want to shut down coal plants you build nuclear plants. If you want to shut down gas turbines you build hydropower or wait until gen IV nuclear is available.
ihave owned a wind turbine for years with bats flying around it and never once found a dead bat or a bird at the base.who puts out this crap,big oil supporting the audobon society.this is a great way to end all wind and solar energy,keep the good work up big oil,your almost ther.
The Audobon Society endorses Wind Power, but with one caveat: Do not place turbines in bird migration paths!
Another factor, as turbines become bigger and sit on taller poles, their blades spin slower. Birds are less likely to be injured by the slower moving blades, and the turbines are more likely to be out of bird migratory paths. Perfect? No. Better, yes.
Lastly, without alt. energy, The Audobahn society and others agree, greehouse gases will kill more birds etc. than the turbines.
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This is absolute horseshit. There is NO evidence that wind turbines kill anything. I have walked around loads of sites like this and never found anything dead,birds or bats. I also have a turbine on my roof and the birds sit on it when its spinning,they dont give a shit..
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NUMBER OF ANIMALS KILLED IN THE UNITED STATES BY CARS ANNUALLY: * 41 million squirrels * 26 million cats * 22 million rats * 19 million opossums * 15 million raccoons * 6 million dogs * 350,000 deer
NOT TO MENTION INSECTS AND BIRDS.
NUMBER OF BIRDS KILLED BY DOMESTIC CATS IN THE US ANNUALLY:
1 BILLION, AND THAT IS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
SORRY IF I'M BORING YOU WITH THESE NUMBERS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE PICTURES OR VIDEO.
THANKS, GEORGE
MandalayWind 2 months ago
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20ZZ20 3 months ago
Obviously people will use this as a political tool to bash renewables but what this research shows is that we need to work on protecting the bats and making sure they are not flying anywhere near the turbines. This number of bat deaths most likely pales into insignificance when compared to the loss of bats through pollution and habitat destruction. We know how bats communicate and locate their prey. It could be as simple as mounting ultrasound emitters to turbines? To scare them away. Research!
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Give evolution a chance. Those with stronger lungs will survive to reproduce offspring resistant to this phenomenon.
mugaliens 4 months ago
@mugaliens Sadly, the grubbermint will probably throw billions of the taxpayer's money at a fix which doesn't work. Either that, or when the pressure-resistant bats will grow in numbers about the time the grubbermint's 20-year program reaches a crescendo and the grubbermint will lay false claim to the success.
mugaliens 4 months ago
@mugaliens how is it a strange phenomenon lol if its by humans its not natural
956crazyman19 3 months ago
*insert really long post with political convictions*
elephantman2222 4 months ago
You gotta lose something to get something. I rather lose a bird then lose a person getting cancer type of disease cause by polluted environment. When we cut trees to make something no one says a word. Trees has life too like us. Why worry about birds? Some people just worry about small stupid things. I don't understand who fund those university graduate freaks. No wonder we are in recession. Just install a Ultra sonic or bird can hear instrument on those blade. It might help to scare away birds.
maruf4ever 4 months ago
Atleast you can keep twilight away.
SCIFIguy64 5 months ago
Mentos and diet cokes cause kids to explode.
splortz 5 months ago
Better build more nuke plants then. The bats will glow in the dark, they will be better off. You know, I don't think pumping oil out of the Earth and burning it, and crashing ships full of oil into rocks has killed a single animal. I bet all the fossil fuels that we have been burning since the late 1800's hasn't caused any health problems for people either. When London was overcome with smog in 1952, that was just a leftist conspiracy, I know because Palin told me.
ShiverRiver 6 months ago
Windmills cause more Mosquitos. Fact!!
happyninslave 6 months ago
The eagle-conservation plan now being proposed by the USFWS would give nesting eagles a ten mile buffer from wind turbine sites. The plan missed two key points (1)it should pertain just to the deadly propeller style wind turbine. This would give the wind industry incentive to move away from the industry's 220 mph tip speed killers. It would also spare many other bird species from inevitable slaughter and (2) It needs to be a felony to hide carcasses of protected species killed at wind farms.
WiegandsWindow 8 months ago
Being a Wildlife biologist with decades of observations, I know as well as anyone the integrity of the wind industry. I have read their rigged Environmental Impact Reports. I have yet to see an honest one. Remember the primary goal for these corporations it to get their hands on the taxpayers money. If they would lie about the impacts to Condors, Whopping Cranes and Eagles, they would lie about anything including energy projections. In the end the taxpayers and wildlife are the big losers.
WiegandsWindow 8 months ago
Propeller Style Wind Turbines spinning with 220 blade tip speeds, kill everything that flies. When they are put into the habitats of rare and endangered species they become the number one killer of these species. There has been a wind industry cover-up about these turbines for over 25 years. Today access to all wind farms in North America is severely limited so a lid can be kept on this information. Laws are needed to make it a felony to hide the deaths of rare and endangered species.
WiegandsWindow 8 months ago 2
@WiegandsWindow Far more rare and endangered species will go extinct from anthropogenic climate change. If we are to switch to a 100% renewable energy situation, windpower will need to be a part of the mix. A necessary evil perhaps.
uknowispeaksense 8 months ago
What you call Climate change I call mankind devouring the surface of this planet. These wind turbines are just part of the madness. A truly green wind industry would have moved on to new advanced wind turbine designs instead of settling for the propeller style and then lying about the impacts. To fortify their cover-up they have an army of mercenary experts to produce bogus studies and have lobbied in Washington to give them laws that absolve them from killing endangered species.
WiegandsWindow 8 months ago
@WiegandsWindow well i must be more of a big picture person.
uknowispeaksense 8 months ago
@uknowispeaksense If we are to use wind power, we need to use wildlife-friendly designs. There ARE such designs out there but the wind industry in its current incarnation isn't interested - they have their money in the archaic, deadly, inefficient models that cause wildlife mortality, habitat destruction and human health problems. It's not 'wind or no wind', it's about using those big brains we're all so proud of to develop a truly SMART &TRULY GREEN design that is wildlife-friendly & efficient.
HSFootballMoms 8 months ago
@HSFootballMoms my understanding is that the current designs are the most efficient but that aside, be careful presenting your arguments with unsubstantiated claims about effects on human health. A search of the scientific literature only brings up anecdotal self-reported health effects...very unscientific. You will only cheapen your argument and people won't take you seriously.
uknowispeaksense 7 months ago
Everyone here is freaking about wind turbines killing bats, all while a fungus is what's actually wiping them out. Get your priorities straight!
playaspec 9 months ago
Yes, that's interesting ...ok so we change the design go to a different design...It is about time, daa.. don't you remeber these big 'Propellas on a Stick' were designed back in the early 1970's...making a BIGGER 'Propella on a BIGGER Stick' is definately not much progress for 40 years!!?? ..how many presidents have we had since Jimmy Carter??
archsticks 10 months ago
@archsticks The wind turbines of today bear as much resemblance to the wind turbines of the 70's as a 747 does to a Bleriot -- Both have two wings, a tail, and wheels underneath, but that doesn't make them the same. In the same way, today's wind turbines have 3 blades, and are mounted on a mast, but that's the only similarity. It will be very hard to eliminate sudden pressure drops, since pressure differentials are the entire operating principle of any wind power generation device.
artgoat 8 months ago
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870WM34W4Y 10 months ago
Who thought we were going to see a bat explode? They could have just left the title there with no video and I would have believed that Wind turbines can make bats lungs explode.
BadMi5tak3s 11 months ago
Its like when you turn up the volume on a Marshall amp, the pressure hits you in your guts, except the small creatures it blows their guts apart inside. Great way to make use of old out dated technology in the way of windmills and killing small animals. Humans were gifted with nuclear power, so stupid not to use that.
squibblejack 1 year ago
@squibblejack But nuclear power has disadavantges dumb ass, we were given wind why not use that fuck face?
Penguingrim 10 months ago
@Penguingrim HAHAHAAA typical human, the daiichi nuclear power plants were built 30+ years ago i believe. Incorporating todays technology into Nuclear Power is the future, until we figure out how to harness the Natural power that the planet emitts, kinda like wireless power, Tesla was on to it.
squibblejack 10 months ago
@squibblejack I understand their are certain humans out their that want to keep their heads buried in the sand and keep humanity on old technologies, trapped, live for the past. ALL THINGS HAVE DISADVANTAGES and ADVANTAGES, im surprised you can think for yourself quit frankly mr. Penguingrim. The advantages of todays nuclear power plants far out weigh your minuscule but deadly to small creatures wind turbines mr. Penguingrim, that were mostly manufactured by GE corp years ago...
squibblejack 10 months ago
@Penguingrim HAHAHHAAAA i suppose you and your followers would take a wind turbine into deep space travel, HAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA lol =)
squibblejack 10 months ago
@squibblejack yes because thats definatly what i said... you = fail... you can use a wind turbin to power up a genoator for a while then go to space dick chaod
Penguingrim 10 months ago
If a wind turbine's blades kill more bugs than ten bats can eat, it's still a plus.
Ordinarry electric downstepping transformers have been doing in curious raccoons and squirrels "forever," but that hasn't hurt the demand for household current.
The windmills are here to stay.
CharlieOchs 1 year ago
WHAT THE FUCK? THEY USED LIVE ANIMALS TO TEST HOW THEY DIED FROM THE TURBINES? WHAT THE FUCKING HELL?
ronaldli5 1 year ago
@ronaldli5 No they collected dead bats around the turbines, since it happens quite often, there were probably a lot around in different places that have turbines around that area with the same problem.
DXkiraXN 1 year ago
@DXkiraXN they said they collected bats or sth. i dont know from the shitty accent the bitch was using. i could hear the other parts if i strained to ehar them, but just at that part, i cant hear properly.
ronaldli5 1 year ago
@ronaldli5 lol yah i had a problem too when i heard this one and also b/c i thought what they were raising with those ropes was a box with a bat inside but i think it was a piece of equipment once i replayed the video i'm pretty sure they just got them from around the turbines :D
DXkiraXN 1 year ago
@DXkiraXN haha, kk. i thot the same as u - bats in the box and lifting em up. it WILL work. but fortunately, i hope it isn't as u proved me.
ronaldli5 1 year ago
there is another type of wind turbine - it has vertical blades, doesn't kill bats, birds and doesn't throw ice. VQ Wind
LucyB1912 1 year ago
people dont realize that wind farms are way better that nitrous oxides, sulfur oxides, and co2 thats being spewed in the environment. have you ever been near a coal plant. god any negative press against renewable energy is retarded. why promote unnecesary fear over the most important change that man has to make. sustainabiility!!!
heyshutupyou 1 year ago 2
@heyshutupyou exactly and the sooner people realise the better
feckit2010 1 year ago
@heyshutupyou Yes unfortunately people are afraid of change. People become rebelious and event violent when change is happening. I would hope that everyone would agree that the benefits of renewable energy way outway the use of non renewable energy. Fossil fuels should remain fossils.
MandalayWind 1 year ago
@MandalayWind Happy New Year. I took some time off for the holiday period. I've debated with you elsewhere on the fallacies of including other hazards to wildlife in the debate on the hazards that IWTs introduce to wildlife. As per the use of combustible fuels (oil,gas,coal,wood, garbage) vs non-combustibles (wind, solar, nuclear, tidal, geothermal), its always a matter of efficiency vs cost, isn't it? And isn't it true that we can't rely on any one power generation method?
NorthernWes 1 year ago
@MandalayWind I hardly think Wind Turbines represent "change". Fundamentally IWTs represent the application of "old technology" using modern engineering techniques to scale up to gargantuan size. How many times have we (humans) used "the bigger the better" as a principle of change? I repeat, we should be using the small scale tech (like what you sell) subsidized to end consumers to remove people from the grid. Not GIANT 600ft IWTs that only serve to increase demand for GAS generation!
NorthernWes 1 year ago
@heyshutupyou Well I've never been near a coal plant. Nor would I choose to buy property near a coal plant. However, the issue with IWTs in my country is that they are appearing all over the countryside without any input, recourse, or remediation for the thousands of non-particpating residents who never had the opportunity to have a choice. People are losing property value. 10-15% of the people have some sort of impact once they're turned on. Bats do die. IWTs kill birds. Real impacts.
NorthernWes 1 year ago
43 people don't realize wind farms protect them from vampires.
SpazzyMcGee1337 1 year ago 31
@SpazzyMcGee1337 ROTFLMAO!
skok58 11 months ago
Yeah, I don't think I believe all that crap about the blades creating low preasure and expanding lungs of bats. Air preasure in lungs is a continually equalizing condition. No way they should expand too much due to air preasure. Divers lungs only rupture from expansion if the diver holds their breath on assent. If the airway is opened the lungs continually equalize. I am a registered resue diver and have been diving since 1974. I know what I'm talking about.
STARFIRESOLAR 1 year ago
Millions and Millions and Millions of birds, animals, insects are killed each year by oil. It's called hitting them with your car. Do some research before making a huge stink over a millifraction of the deaths caused by automobiles. Our planets environment is more important than the bats that will lose their lives in the battle. To win the war you have to fight some battles. UTUBERS STOP THE IGNORANT STATEMENTS FOR COAL AND OIL. PLEASE. IF ANOTHER PERSON FAVORS OIL INSTEAD I'M LEAVING PLANET.
MandalayWind 1 year ago
@MandalayWind yes you are right. thank you
heyshutupyou 1 year ago
@MandalayWind
What if we put it this way:
Here we have bats:
Bat -> Insect Control -> Stops spread of viruses carried by many insects.
Lets take bats out of the equation:
Bats suddenly go "Poof" -> Uncontroled insects -> Diseases like Malaria spread rapidly via insects like mosquitos -> Disease spreads to people -> People are infected and start dying rapidly -> Epidemics.
Whos winning the war now?
Don't like oil and our machines? Then leave like you said you would.
igotbored44 1 year ago
so if a skydiver jumps out of a plane jest behind the the wing (which is a bigger pressure difference than off a turbine blade) will his lungs explode?
DrummerNig 1 year ago
Awesome!!
FROZYO 1 year ago
Easily fixed.
Put up a sign that reads: No Bats Allowed.
CWS1971 1 year ago 12
@CWS1971 Or to be on the more technical side (your comment was funny :D ) they could install a machine that puts out a certain frequency that leads the bat to believe there is mass all around that area. Like a layer of ions that reflect the sonar signitures back to the little fellas and make them think there are hills or cliff side surrounding the turbines. I'll admit, just cuz an animal dies doesnt mean we shouldnt use wind turbine free energy. (well free for the elite corporations)
freakman420 5 months ago
Hi !
persehy 1 year ago
Hi !
i need a video like this for the school ! do u know if existed some like this,but, in spanish ???
persehy 1 year ago
I HAVE NEVER SEEN A DEAD BAT OR A DEAD BIRD OR A DEAD INSECT AROUND MY WINDTURBINES. HAD THEM 2 YEARS ON MY HOUSE.
wyattlisadana 1 year ago
@wyattlisadana There might be a slight difference between the 60 metre blades of a commercial turbine, & the children's hand held windmill on your house! lol
hiyadroogs 1 year ago
@hiyadroogs maybe you could explain the dynamics my superior genius. Bat lungs exploding and pigs flying its all related. How shall we design a wind turbine that is perfect. MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST CONTINUE BURROWING INTO THE EARTH EXTRACTING AND POLLUTING. It's kinda like reaching into a recently used toilet pulling out the contents and throwing it into a fan. !!!!!!
wyattlisadana 1 year ago 3
@wyattlisadana Everything we humans do, impacts the planet. There isn't a right/wrong way to generate energy - its just a bunch of tradeoffs between cost/benefit/impacts. In the case of Industrial Wind Turbines (300-600ft tall), the industry has aggressively marketed that there is effectively NO impact on the environment. As a result you have sites going up in bird flyways, near conservation areas, in nature reserves, etc. We fined an oil co in Canada $3m for 1200 bird deaths. $0 for IWTs.
Northwesley 1 year ago
@wyattlisadana And yes it is absolutely proven that this is true. Even the Wind industry is concerned although no one has figured what, if anything, can be done to impact this. One study suggests that the 500ft towers and blades be painted purple to attract fewer insects. Another has suggested changing start up wind speeds from 8mph to 11-12mph. A third has suggested turning them off in areas/seasons with peak bat activity. It is a real impact of IWTs -NOT the little wind mills used for homes.
Northwesley 1 year ago
i bet, engineers never had that in mind when designed the turbines. thats something interesting to know
MADNEXXION 1 year ago
poor BATMAN
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rextundra 1 year ago
good point Rex , we need to exterminate all insects that way they can no longer spread things like the West Niles virus or AIDS as well as any animal that is not in our food chain for example and everyone is encouraged to sing along to the unicorn song we need to get rid of green alligators and long neck geese humpty back camels and chimpanzees bats and rats and elephants ok well keep some for zoos
dahduke 1 year ago
@dahduke Don't worry about the insects, dahduke. They were here hundreds of millions of years before man got here, & they'll still be here hundreds of millions of years after we become extinct. : )
hiyadroogs 1 year ago
This is true, bats have been casualties of turbine blades which travel at 150 to 300 miles per hour WHEN OPERATING. USA studies have shown that only low level blade speeds cause bat mortality when the turbine is not producing energy and is only 'free-wheeling' adjustments to operation software can lock down the blades in low wind conditions and virtually eliminate bat kills, and this is being done throughout the industry. Also, this problem is most preveaent on the East Coast.
windfarmer56 1 year ago
so its a win win where getting rid of bats and we are creating clean electricity
it just goes to prove we need to build a lot more wind turbines
dahduke 1 year ago
@dahduke bats play an important role in reducing pest insect populations...
rexregum 1 year ago
@dahduke - idiot. interesting u choose here to blend your exterminator-self with your bat-hater self.
randomlaughingman 1 year ago
Yeah, that's right, and wind turbines also curdle the milk in refrigerators up to 10 miles away.
ozzirt 1 year ago
lol
llamafur 1 year ago
propaganda
nelsonsilk 1 year ago
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Think about it people, wind turnbines don't create that much air pressure. I think the people at the University of Crap-gary need to find something better to do with their time.
DigitalImagesToront 1 year ago
Lib's wont like this! hahaha
BeantownJim 1 year ago
That's easy. Bats use ultrasound for guidance. You could easily scare them off with a shrieking sound device no one else can hear.
trakkaton 1 year ago
what about my mother, her boobs exploded because of these satanic windmills
vikingskippen 1 year ago
Personally I think it would be a good idea to start looking at large-scale application of vertical-axis cylindrical turbines instead of these. They can be made on a large enough scale, but are less likely to kill local wildlife.
Alteredstory 1 year ago
You know bats hear better than the rest of us, and I bet someone could attach a device that would make a noize that would warn a bat of the danger or be so anoying the they would just stay away from the blades.
Manitobah 1 year ago
Wind and solar are boondoggles. Fusion power is the future. Know why? It's because you can get fuel for it anywhere in the solar system. That's why.
Spartan043 1 year ago
@Spartan043
No one has ever achived sustained Fusion, Excluding perhaps Ponds and Fleischman.
Manitobah 1 year ago
@Manitobah Some Japanese researchers recently managed to get a tokamak to produce more output heat than they were feeding it with for about five minutes. I'd say that's a step in the right direction, at least. Who knows? Maybe within the next hundred years, we'll see fusion reactors being used as a practical source of power. My opinion on the matter is that politicians who are wind/solar advocates shouldn't try to get funding for fusion cut simply because they don't like the idea.
Spartan043 1 year ago
what a load of horse shit.bats have brilliant echo location and can avoid most things ,why would they not be able to locate around a wind turbine?
the real reason for the bat deaths is some simple minded locals that have dislike to progress and dumped some dead bats near the turbines.they with be throwing dead hedgehogs and cute bunnies next saying they are drawn to the hypnotic spin and hum of the turning blades.
shaggyhumphrey 1 year ago 2
@shaggyhumphrey They do avoid the turbines, but they can't detect low pressure pockets.
Alteredstory 1 year ago
u learn something new erday.
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WindPowerKits 1 year ago
ohhh shiiiiiiit
Gesmehod 1 year ago
But more widely to this particular pb, may we not forget that : BATS, alike ALL OTHER FORMS OF LIVING, especialy animal ones, ARE SACRED PARTS of an ALIVE, WISEFULL FEED-BACK FULL EQUILIBRIUM that WE, human, are surely PART OF, but NOT the center and CERTAINLY NOT the most important! Sory for huge EGO devotes! We, human beings are invited to participate respetfuly to the global equilibrium of Nature, and NOT TO MESS IT UP FOR THE IRRESPONSABLE SAKE OF OUR WILLS OF CAPRICIOUS CONFORT!
aikidlc 1 year ago
3-ultrasound may help but the insects will still be massiv around the pole... not sure it will be enough to keep the bats far
aikidlc 1 year ago
Turbines have flash lightening at night that brings flying insctes in mass near the head of the pole so the bats hunting are driven close to the turning blades. Many simple solutions can be tested : 1-puting the flash light on the turning blades instead of on the pole - might solve the pb but still creates light that atracts insects and bats 2- Puting reflectors instead of lights since airplanes have their own lights and painting the propelers ends in red or fluo; might be the best
aikidlc 1 year ago
Reflectors won't work because planes don't have lights on when flying, just beacons. Also most wind farms have active beacons which only flash when radar determines that airplanes are near, otherwise they are off because all the tree huggers whined about light pollution. I say leave them alone, and eventually the bats will learn not to fly there, or else they die...it has nothing to do with the circle of life or human interaction.
travelbytommy 1 year ago
I also believe the bats will eventually adapt, and stop flying around these. Hopefully this adaptation wont hurt them or the ecosystem in any other way. (I'm not a tree hugger)
Pacerace100 1 year ago
As someone mentioned before, the first thing that came to my mind too is that they should be installing those infrasound devices now if they want to prevent this from happening..
MrGyroGearloose 1 year ago
Low on electricity and having a bit of a bat problem. Well then your in luck!
fstratzero 1 year ago
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First off, holding your breath would be the only way for a scuba diver's lungs to explode as the pressure would be equalized everytime you exhale and inhale. I think the video is referring to "the bends" which has to do with blood and not lung pressure from surfacing too quickly.
Personally I could care less about bats. If they were smart creatures they would just stay away from the turbines, but of course we will probably have some tree huggers complaining about it now.
travelbytommy 1 year ago
@travelbytommy : pain in the ass!
aikidlc 1 year ago
There are 3 problems a scuba diver must worry about. Oxygen toxicity can't be the problem because the bat isn't under water, and nitrogen narcosis isn't an issue either for the same reason. As for the bends it deals with a nitrogen gas bubble in the blood stream, not blood in the lungs, and I have been a scuba diver for almost 10 years now, and I have never heard of a single injury or death where someone's lungs exploded. Sure bats are dying, but it isn't related to scuba type injuries.
travelbytommy 1 year ago
@travelbytommy : 'pain in the ass' was for your stupid coment regardless of the bats life! You get it? What the hell is the fuking PB with human beings, so that they think they endlessly disearve to behave like the center of the world and eradicate laughting whatever they wish just to make their fucking ass little more confortable??? This type of irresponsable coments disrespectfull for others life is just typical of modern occidental egotripik pain in the ass blindness. That's all!
aikidlc 1 year ago
personally I think eco types like whining more than they do fixing problems. They whined for a long time that we need more wind farms as eco-friendly power production, and now that we have a bunch of wind farms they whine that it isn't eco-friendly. It is the same way eco-terrorist groups use arson to protest urban growth...of course companies get insurance money and cut down more trees to rebuild the same house thereby making their statement even worse. What a bunch of morons.
travelbytommy 1 year ago
Poor bats! Let's go back to living in the dark so the bats can live!
computerwizard1959 1 year ago 2
so now the wind is bad!
jetskier47 2 years ago 2
I'm sure there would be a rather simple way to keep them away from the turbines, using the same technique they use at airports to avoid birds getting stuck in jet engines. They use infra sounds or ultrasounds, I'm not sure, but it works. There are probably another technique that works on bats as well...
mate2000 2 years ago
I know what not to do to make this any better... *shines bat signal on the turbine*
1objection 2 years ago 2
This must be the new threat to Batman!
Blue2Scripter 2 years ago 17
@Blue2Scripter HAHAHAHAH!
chamblizi 5 months ago
I don't get why birds and bats just get the hell away from the turbines.
Flarrm09 2 years ago
how the hell do they know their lungs are going to explode
LightxEdge 2 years ago
WNS=barotrauma
ronnierocket70 2 years ago
Well. Here we go. Next we'll either be putting bat nets around every wind turbine, or we'll stop using them all together. Just wait until PETA gets hold of this info. These new agers won't stop until every human on earth (except for them of course) has been wiped off the planet. Want to make sure Al Gore and the rest of the elites have a nice world to rule.
thesixtiesguy 2 years ago 5
@thesixtiesguy You don't want to try and live in a world without bats. You'd be surprised how many of our foods, for instance, are pollinated only by bats. Not to mention the millions of tons of insects these guys eat every night. This has nothing to do with 'bunny-hugging' - it has to do with keeping our entire food chain from experiencing total collapse.
HSFootballMoms 8 months ago
@thesixtiesguy i say this everytime someone mentions peta...but its funny, so many people in PETA complainin about animal rights...when alot of them...use makup XD which contains whale blubber....most of em just want somethin to complain about
shawndw151 6 months ago
You can read all about it in the origin of species.
medicbr549 2 years ago
BS.
Nopiw 2 years ago 2
hah damn bats are getting the caisson disease? (the benz)
Well don't murder them all please, I rather like not having 30k mosquitos on me in the middle of summer.
wait bats eat bugs right? Guess i should ask batman.
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scientificallygreene 2 years ago
The way this information should used, is to figure out ways to warn bats and birds away. But if that is the worse consequence of wind farms, then that is a relatively cheap price to pay.
LTDreams 2 years ago
Unless your a bat of course...
n1ckotene 2 years ago 2
The video makers should have titled this; winds turbine cause bats to drown in own blood, if their theory is correct. They can't really know for sure until they measure the actual pressure drop, and subject some poor sacrificial bat to the same changes in the lab.
westkan 2 years ago
I'm guessing Exxon funded this research...
malcolmyoungrules 2 years ago
lolzzz!!!
EyeWearMySunglasses 2 years ago
Actually it is very possible for you to burst the air sacs in the lungs diving. It is called pulmonary barotrauma and is caused when air in the lungs expands faster than a diver can exhale. That is why you are taught to do emergency ascents while exhaling. This is caused by changes in pressure.
mapper90 2 years ago
wrong that is a false fact about scuba diving you dont blow up your lungs gas bubbles out of your blood and blocks the flow of blood in other words "the bends"
firedude201234 2 years ago
...Are you even a scuba diver? I've been certified for quite a while now, and you CAN have your lungs explode while diving if you hold your breath while going up. If you are a diver, you would know that this is possible, and is caused by air expansion. Duh.
honeybunsown13 2 years ago
yes i am certified and second the bats arent holding their breath coming up from depth you idiot
firedude201234 2 years ago
plus in the video they say "the same thing can happen to scuba divers if the ascend to fast" they dont say anything about holding your breath get your facts straight
firedude201234 2 years ago
Okay, whatever. Go on living your pathetic misinformed life. If you don't care to learn, I don't care to teach.
honeybunsown13 2 years ago
ok the only misinformed person here is you idiot
firedude201234 2 years ago
Respectfully both yourself hunybuns missed the problem with the video, that this drylander spootted, the lungs did NOT explode. They discovered that the BLOOD VESSELS IN THE LUNGS EXPLODED causing the bats to drown in their own blood. I wouldn't have the clue if human divers that fail to decompress properly would experience the same or not.
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jeffmolly1 2 years ago
R.I.P Count Dracula
squiggleyou 2 years ago
WindparkWiki 2 years ago
bad science? maybe. but how is it propaganda?
anton2maa 2 years ago
I'm not saying it is because I do not know, but it would be propaganda if the research was sponsored by investors and supporters of, lets say, gas or solar power. Its obvious there are interest groups/ lobbyists out there that are adamant about keeping homeowners from having nature energy sources. The energy companies would lose out on huge profits. Thats how it could be propaganda. Propaganda is just "information that is spread for the purpose of promoting some cause"
the1dutchmaster 2 years ago
Two words:
"Bat-er up" ^_-
MagWrath 2 years ago
One more reason for vertical turbines.
givebeesachance 2 years ago
do these bats not know that they are giving fodder to the anti envrionmentalist's? Obama and Al GOre will definitely have to silence them ! Zeig heil Obama!
SHMUJEW 2 years ago
What about scuba diving bats?
BenetFleck 2 years ago 17
@BenetFleck those things would be screwed
rippkurlzable 1 year ago
Probably few people will care about bats being killed until a few years hence when they find they are swatting far more flies and mosquitoes and are unable to enjoy a picnic in the park for all the bugs that get stuck in the food.
bodryn 2 years ago
wind farms ... ho ho ho
richardyingren 2 years ago
These bats wouldn't have any problems, if they weren't trespassing on "PRIVATE PROPERTY"
I don't feel sorry for them.....
TheLiptonGroup 2 years ago 8
LMFAO
AlexParkerEmcee 2 years ago
hahahahaha I do feel sorry
pyrokinetikrlz 2 years ago
@TheLiptonGroup "PRIVATE PROPERTY" is a human EGOTISTICAL invention, not a phenomenon of nature. You and the 8 who gave you thumbs up are ignorant cocksmacks.
Joysquigglesparkles 1 year ago
Thanks for the info.
MAVRIK13 2 years ago
Something I will use each day for the rest of my life.
j3tpil0t 2 years ago
This is not in regards to any specific comment(s), I'm just wondering...Why do some people try to seperate solar and wind power by saying one is better than the other? Would you put up solar panels where there is a lot of wind and the sun never shines? Would you put up a wind farm in a place where it's always sunny but rarely windy? They are both good when placed in the proper setting.
mvlty 2 years ago 4
New Scientist is utter complete shit.
karamojong 2 years ago
ouch that must be a horrible way to die...
Shadow100004 2 years ago 2
way to go wind power lol
Its always something
RexNunc 2 years ago
What ever happened to helical turbine blades?
And how about solar? Not big solar farms but solar arrays on individual homes. Most states offer significant subsidies not to mention federal tax credits, utility company interest free loans and buyback of excess power. That seems like a win win win for all!
natevilledotcom 2 years ago
Yeah, that's what the people behind these plans TELL you, but who knows what their real intentions are.
We could have had solar/wind/geothermal/nuclear plants running safely and efficiently by now if we would have had the right agencies overseeing how their respective plants were built! Its just like the problem we have with fiber optic cable not being in every city, we gave the big companies enough money, but they wasted it all on their CEOs.
What makes you think this time is different?
i8246i 2 years ago
I do not oppose small turbines for home power generation. But 400 ft turbines in rural areas are destroying landscapes as well as not delivering on the "green" promise. Google "the problem with wind."
hardyoak 2 years ago
Google "you're a giant idiot who can't see other solutions to a problem"
You put wind turbines and solar panels, ones that have been slimmed down and are super-efficient on every rooftop of every building in a city. You set aside large fields and parts of lakes/oceans for larger turbines and solar arrays.
You then back these collectors up with your hydro/coal/gas and nuclear plants and you create a very stable power system that's a bit cleaner than what we have now.
Yes, we can do it
i8246i 2 years ago
If you have a good argument, you don't have to insult people. I originally put up the google quote suggestion because this youtube comment site would not let me put up a link to the article, "The Problem With Wind."
The only sustainable, clean solution is dramatically lowered electricity use. We are destroying the environment for our so-called affluence. The future will look more like the past than the present.
strawberryseason 2 years ago
"The only sustainable, clean solution is dramatically lowered electricity use."
That's the most unsustainable solution imaginable. You would prompt billions of humans to spread out and tear down every single tree in existance for the sake of firewood and farmland.
"We are destroying the environment for our so-called affluence."
The earth's crust contains 3 ppm U and 10 ppm Th. An average tonne of crust(not ore, just junk) contains the equivalent of 140 barrels of oil worth of nuclear fuel.
soylentgreenb 2 years ago
Continued...
Your fear of nuclear energy and of energy abundance is the only reason coal is still being burnt. ~1 million people die from coal particulates each year and the amount of mercury, cadmium, NOx, SOx and other toxic crap dumped into the environment is terrifying.
I hope you're proud of yourself.
soylentgreenb 2 years ago
soylentgreenb: I recommend the DVD : The Power of Community How Cuba Survived Peak Oil. People can adjust to less available energy. They did not destroy their land, instead planted sustainable, organic gardens. And their forests are increasing, too.
strawberryseason 2 years ago
"You put wind turbines and solar panels, ones that have been slimmed down and are super-efficient on every rooftop of every building in a city."
The yearly average insolation is between 50 W/m^2 and 250 W/m^2 in the inhabited world; that's not a lot and that's the most you could ever get.
Efficient photovoltaics are very pricey and there's nothing on the horizon to change that. As a result the only thing that gets installed is pretty much the cheapest, crappiest polycrystaline panels.
soylentgreenb 2 years ago
There's no such thing as super-efficient wind turbines. Betz' law limits their efficiency and there's very little head room to improve them. You can make them more cost effective by making them bloody huge and placing the nacelle higher above the ground.
This is exactly why small wind turbines are so bloody useless; apart from the hideous, high-frequency swishing noise they make(which makes it very difficult to place them on roof tops near people, I'd certainly never go along with it quitely).
soylentgreenb 2 years ago
"You then back these collectors up with your hydro/coal/gas and nuclear plants and you create a very stable power system that's a bit cleaner than what we have now."
Very high cost, non-existent benefit.
Not a single coal or gas turbine will shut down as a result of wind and solar power(see Denmark and Germany for reference). If you want to shut down coal plants you build nuclear plants. If you want to shut down gas turbines you build hydropower or wait until gen IV nuclear is available.
soylentgreenb 2 years ago
ihave owned a wind turbine for years with bats flying around it and never once found a dead bat or a bird at the base.who puts out this crap,big oil supporting the audobon society.this is a great way to end all wind and solar energy,keep the good work up big oil,your almost ther.
jeffmolly1 2 years ago
I would agree. lots of malinfo on here. Wind is a good stock. Buy it up.
elthiefo 2 years ago
The Audobon Society endorses Wind Power, but with one caveat: Do not place turbines in bird migration paths!
Another factor, as turbines become bigger and sit on taller poles, their blades spin slower. Birds are less likely to be injured by the slower moving blades, and the turbines are more likely to be out of bird migratory paths. Perfect? No. Better, yes.
Lastly, without alt. energy, The Audobahn society and others agree, greehouse gases will kill more birds etc. than the turbines.
feelytouchy67 2 years ago
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BurningDeepFlame 2 years ago
haha, classic comment. can you try to be less scientific with the next one?
fakiir 2 years ago
Amen brother..
southwind025 2 years ago
Shit, so by adding to the wind turbines in Ireland, we're killing our already dwindling population of bats +solar power's no good here :(
freakyMof 2 years ago
That makes perfect sense. I can see how the air pressure would change around the blades of a wind turbine.
KellySaunders5 2 years ago