Its such a pity that with such excellent debating skills the Atheist Experience hosts regularly have to deal with this kind of idiocy. I like it when they get callers who are half-way educated...sadly that doesn't happen too often.
@LickMyPlateHogBitch "The bible makes claims and nobody has disproved them yet."
Burden of Proof is on people who believe in the Bible. You don't "believe all things until they are disproved". That's not how logic and reason works. Look up "Burden of Proof" and try to understand why it's required.
"You can't claim God isn't real until you seek for yourself"
You can disbelieve God until there is justification to believe. Just like everything else.
Is does not take and educated person to understand the concept of how it's impossible to begin from nothing. Explain that to me instead of ignoring my question and calling me ignorant which is what most ignorant people do. You blocking me is telling me you are ignorant and don't know how to answer my question because I'm right. You put on this show to answer questions and it's sad how you don't have an answer to this.
@Resolushion And it is dishonest to say "I don't know how it all came to be therefore God must have done it". It is already a contradicted sentence. If you don't know, then how do you know it was a God who created the universe? As of right now nobody knows the origin of the universe and how it all started but to assume that an intelligent being was behind it, is the same as assuming an invisible pink unicorn was behind it.
@Balstar5283 There will always be an ongoing argument of how did we come to existence. It's never going to end, because even if someone said how the universe formed, then you can still say "well where did that come from" ? Its on going, The only final end to this all has to be a "God" or even an invisible pink unicorn. It's not dishonest for me to say God exists because it's obviously my opinion and you don't know God doesn't exist.
@ResolutionVids There's a difference between "God exist" and "I believe that a God exist." The first is asserting God existence as a fact while the other is an opinion. Maybe "God" is the end of the cycle of questions, but the real issue is whether that is the correct answer and what is the reason for believing that is the correct answer. Yes, I don't know God doesn't exist, but I can't assume that he does without some kind of justification.
@Balstar5283 This is youtube if you didn't already know. Whatever someone says is going to be someones opinion. Obviously I can't prove that God is existing, same way you can't prove that God isn't existing. Do I have title everything I say with "my opinion"? I'm just saying "in my opinion", that the cycle of questions will never end without there being a God of some sort.
@ResolutionVids There are people out there asserting God's existence as fact, but that's beside the point. The point I wanted to make is why believe there's a God who created the universe to begin with? It might be a convenient answer but I rather have an accurate explanation which is supported by evidence. If we don't know the answer, then we just don't know it. To me that's more honest than saying "we don't know therefore a God must exist."
@Balstar5283 Your never going to get an accurate explanation. If God really does exist, God isn't going to make the existence obvious or everyone would believe. If everyone believed then there would be no point of life. Life is a test. I would rather believe and possibly being wrong, then not believing and going to hell. "My opinion" obviously. But it's better than just not believing because it's not sitting there in front of your eyes.
The problem was stating baseless assertions and justifying them as "They are just my opinions" is the same problem as holding opinions that are baseless assertions with no justification.
I'm obviously asking why you think YOUR OPINION holds any weight. If you are going to concede that it doesn't, there's no reason for anyone here to take you or your opinions seriously.
@Resolushion Also saying that atheist believe we came from nothing is a strawman. What the scientists say (not atheist by the way) is the universe started as a singularity. Where did that singularity come from? Well nobody knows but nobody is claiming it came from nothing. We simply DO NOT KNOW.
I was walking to the store one day smoking a joint and finishing my Old
Gold and a Unicorn just appeared right in front of me ...thats not the wierd part, it started to sing then suddenly changed into thug and robbed me of my drinking money...and since then I have been sober I then realized God was real cause stuff like this don't happen.....it only happens when one is not in his right state of mind.
Lots of YouTube atheists recommend Richard Dawkins' book, "The Greatest Show On Earth", however, a Christian Creationist has refuted Dawkins' book. "The Greatest Hoax On Earth" by Jonathan Sarfati. Sarfati has challenged Dawkins to a debate. So far, Dawkins has declined.
What Matt said is a bunch of horse manure. Lies. Matt talks like it has been settled how the Universe and the Earth was made, it hasn't.
The Big Bang, space aliens, and nothingness are still atheistic, stupid possibilities.
The Atheist Experience's theme song "Listen To Reason" says, "Won't you listen to reeeason?..." What reasoning? That anything formed all of existence in it's remarkable order BUT God? That's not reason, that's several reasons avoiding one reason (God).
@ZebrasFirst "What Matt said is a bunch of horse manure. Lies. Matt talks like it has been settled how the Universe and the Earth was made, it hasn't."
He has settled on Science's best explanation for what we have thus far. If new information challenged that assumption, I'm sure Matt would weigh the new evidence and be willing to change his mind as many of us would.
@devious21, U said,"He has settled on Science's best explanation..."
- Self-Creation is not Science! It's atheist wishful thinking.
If a skyscraper does not get there all by itself, why would you think the Universe and the Earth did?
What Matt says at 2:18 thru 2:32 screams that all of existence formed all by itself. Yahoo! News ran an article on Stephen Hawking saying everything came from nothing. Yeah...right.
@devious21, I'm very doubtful you know what is and isn't science."
- I'm sure you are doubtful since you have no clue of the differences between Science and Science Fiction.
The Universe and the Earth creating themselves into existence is pure Science Fiction. If what Matt said were true, we wouldn't have The Big Bang AND Nothingness AND Space Aliens AND any other foolishness you atheists try to come up with. That's not consistency, that's uncertainty and confusion.
@ZebrasFirst "The Universe and the Earth creating themselves into existence"
Who says the earth created itself? You don't understand science.
There may be a Hypothesis of an Eternal Universe with what we know of time and space. It may not be true but just because you can't fathom or understand it, doesn't make it foolish.
"If what Matt said were true, we wouldn't have The Big Bang AND Nothingness AND Space Aliens"
What did he say? What are you talking about? Make a point already.
@devious21, U ended,"I'm sure Matt would weigh the new evidence and be willing to change his mind as many of us would."
- I don't believe that at all. Atheists will accept anything but God. Nothingness (Hawking) makes better sense to atheists, Space Aliens (Dawkins) makes better sense to atheists, and any other silly, impossible theory. God is the ONLY option that is out to atheists. That's why the Bible says,"The fool has said in his heart, there is no God."
"Space Aliens (Dawkins) makes better sense to atheists, and any other silly, impossible theory. God is the ONLY option that is out to atheists."
Regarding Aliens or "life on other planets" - I don't see what's so far fetched about that. We have concrete proof of life on planets (us) and planets able to sustain life (earth). So the possibility of it existing elsewhere is reasonable.
We have no concrete proof for God or Gods existing. So comparing those too isn't really useful.
@devious21, You're so funny. We have life on Earth because Earth is the only planet that has the enviroment and living conditions that could support life. Other planets do not. Go live on Mars if you think differently (and see what happens).
Furthermore, you contradicted yourself: Atheists have no "concrete proof" of God, but you'll accept space creatures with no problem. Did you know UFO sightings have dropped since the 1970's? Do you care?
@ZebrasFirst "You're so funny. We have life on Earth because Earth is the only planet that has the enviroment and living conditions that could support life. "
In the universe? What about planets like Kepler 20e/f? The universe doesn't revolve around your galaxy.
"Atheists have no "concrete proof" of God"
Why would atheist need concrete proof of god?
"you'll accept space creatures with no problem"
I accept they are possible, sure. We have more evidence for their possible existence than gods.
@devious21, Space Aliens- In the 1970s, cameras were few and far between. Today, practically everyone has a camera in some form or another. We should have captured excellent images of your space parents by now, and not some image of a hazy, smeared hoax as "proof".
Again, you'd rather fantasy space beings be real than God.
@ZebrasFirst "Space Aliens- In the 1970s, cameras were few and far between."
I'm talking about the possibility of intelligent life in the universe. You are talking about Aliens landing on earth. I never said I believed Aliens landed on earth or in the claims of those who have "seen aliens".
It sounds like your opinions of Atheists are based on misunderstandings of their views.
@ZebrasFirst "I don't believe that at all. Atheists will accept anything but God."
Besides this comment showing your obvious bias against Atheists, you use of "will accept" ensures that the state is objectively false.
Any Atheists can give you a list of other claims they don't have justification to believe. This is not some grudge Atheists have against god. They simply don't believe in god like they don't believe in many claims that haven't met their Burden of Proof.
The fact is that you cannot demonstrate through evidence why anyone other than you should believe in your god. If you have a personal experience and witness him, then that's fantastic, but that can only be evidence for you, and no one else.
Also, and this is not meant to be an insult, but you really need to work on your formatting, because it's hard to tell where your sentences begin and end at times.
@yankwilliams The only one who's failed is God, in terms of making a test that makes any sort of sense regarding what it is evaluating, and how it goes about evaluating that. How do you expect a test of any sort to work when different people are given different circumstances, knowledge, and time to do the test in?
Furthermore, asserting that atheists need to 'grow balls' weakens your point. You basically are saying that you can't prove your point, and you don't care if you can prove it.
@yankwilliams Can you prove that the universe was created by a god of any sort, much less the specific one you believe in? The thing about being a Skeptic Atheist, like Matt, is that we can admit that _we don't know_ the answers to those questions yet, and that's okay.
We're searching for the answers, even today, but the persistant point made is that someone like me cares about whether his beliefs are true, accurate, and justified. You clearly focus more on feeling than truth, though.
@elibeth121 "God designed this world, and yes it is truly amazing."
I bet that if you presented the reasons or arguments why you think God designed the world, they could systematically be shown to be false or misunderstood arguments.
The question is, once your arguments has been shown to be false, would it matter? Or would you still believe without justification that God designed the world?
@devious21 Lets say that God is wrong and not real. What do I have to lose? Lets say that you are wrong what do you lose? You lose eternal life and go to hell.
*Me - "I bet that if you presented the reasons or arguments why you think God designed the world, they could systematically be shown to be false or misunderstood arguments."
*You - "Lets say that God is wrong and not real. What do I have to lose?"
This argument is known as Pascal Wager. It's invokes the fallacy of False Dichotomy, which assumes there are only 2 options.There are numerous other gods and religions who's hell you go to if you're wrong. It's a flawed argument.
@devious21 I didnt know it by Pascal, however what I have said to you is all true. There are two options Heaven or Hell. There are no other gods. Jesus Christ is the true God.
The world cannot have its origin and the destination within itself. In everything that exists, there is more than we can see. The order, the beauty, and the development of the world point beyond themselves toward God. Every person is receptive to what is true, good and beatiful. He hears within himself the voice.
@elibeth121 "I didnt know it by Pascal, however what I have said to you is all true."
No, it's not true. That's the point. Read up on Pascal's Wager. Understand why it's not logical and why it's NOT a reasoned argument. If you believe in God, I think you'd agree you'd want to believe in him for REAL reasons that make sense. Pascal's Wager is not one of them.
@elibeth121 "I really dont care what Pascal says, I read what God says."
That's BS and you know it. God NEVER said "Believe in me cause it's a safe bet and I more likely exist than don't".
That's an argument PEOPLE use, not words from God. You need to be able to differentiate what you think GOD SAYS and what PEOPLE SAY. Those are VERY DIFFERENT.
At least read the Wikipedia entry on what Pascal's Wager, so you understand why it's wrong and so you don't continue to use a FLAWED reason for God.
@devious21 Number one is correct, Number two is correct, and number three is correct. God keeps you on the correct path and yes he forms your conscience.
@elibeth121 so God created a tree which gave them knowledge of good and evil. but did good and evil exist before then? or did they just not realise that nakedness was (apparently) a sin, seeing as they identified this as being sinful.
@TheYetoRieck Yes, evil existed through Satan. or actually he was called Lucifer then because he was an angel who questioned and tested God. He was then a fallen angel, and God casted him away. They were certainly embarassed to be naked and were hiding from God., for they knew they had sinned.
@elibeth121 so us having free will was a mistake on God's part? presumably they weren't sinning when they were naked before, so we weren't meant to have free will in the first place
@TheYetoRieck Nope God that to people so we would not be robots and forced to believe in him. He wants us to believe in him so we can know true happiness but does not force us. Adam and Eve were meant to live very happily in the Garden of Eve, they had a perfect life without death, without disease, without having to work, but they choice to sin and ruined their life and gave us orginial sin.
@13Kukis Logically, God knowing what we are going to do does not mean that we can't do something else. It means that God simply knows what we have chosen to do ahead of time. Our freedom is not restricted by God's foreknowledge; our freedom is simply realized ahead of time by God.
@13Kukis, U wrote,"God gave us free will but gets pissed when we use it? That makes sense"
- Yes, God gives us free will to accept or reject Him. The Bible says God would love for the whole world to turn to Him. As we can see today, the world won't.
Evil and rampant sin is what pisses Him off. People being horrible to each other, murder, rape, etc, etc. God promised there'd be a time to end it.
@elibeth121 or evolution acting in social animals. chimpanzees can display feeling of shame and fear when they break the rules of their groups. are they religious? is God talking to them? probably not, he did, after all, make us in 'his image'...
@elibeth121 "God created the heavens and the earth. and everything else in it."
I used to believe the same. The question I had to ask myself was "would I still believe my reasons for believing were false". The answer for me (and hopefully for you) was, "of course not". You should only want to believe things that are true.
That's not saying you may not have a good reason to believe in God, but Pascal's Wager DEFINITELY isn't one. Once you understand it, I wouldn't use it as a reason anymore.
@elibeth121 Okay, give examples of those details. A lot of folks refer to the eye, but ignore the blatant flaws in the design of the human eye, which has a natural blindspot (something we _all_ have), whereas the octopus has a significantly better designed eye which does not have the blind spot. IF that was designed, it is indeed mind boggling that the creator's 'chosen people' 'designed in his likeness' would have a fundamental flaw in design.
@elibeth121 In terms of the flaw? No, the flaw I'm referring to is the human eye, which has its optical nerves wired in such a way that we have a physical blind spot. If the eye was designed, then the human eye was designed poorly.
I do not view 'sin' as a flaw of design, but as a fault of humans through psychological faults that we all have, mostly because the perception of reality is constructed within the mind just as much as it is received by the senses.
when i get done typing this i am going to pray for each and every one of u who are not belivers..and no Im not doing this or leaving this comment to be a goody two shoes. ive just read sum nasty remarks about christians being stupid and not being intelligant And i want to show you that it doesnt matter what ppl think about me and us as followers. I still luv u and respect you as a human and i understand y you dont believe so I only hope and pray that perhaps one day you will find out to :)
So Matt (and the ignorant chick next to him)....the sun was made by gravity and particles? So what was the intelligence behind the gravity and the design of the sun?
And who made the particles that formed the sun? over to you Matt.
Matt, can you also believe that i have a gold watch which no human made? It formed in my bedroom by gravity and particles. Dont believe it? But you can believe the WHOLE universe was made like this with no creator. But the watch needed a creator?
@jpgrygus "So what was the intelligence behind the gravity and the design of the sun?"
Again, you are proposing that there is an intelligence and then asking others to explain what that intelligence is.
First, you have to provide justification as to why you think there is an intelligence. THEN, you'd have to prove why that intelligence is YOUR specific god as opposed to any of the other hundred gods.
@devious21 You are clearly confused. Matt states that the sun was created out of gravity and particles. Yet niether him nor you mention the driving force (intelligence) behind it. Its like me saying houses are made from bricks and mortar yet not mentioning the home builder behind it. Have you know a house that magically built itself? over to you.
I emailed Matt and asked him what evidence he needs to accept that God exists. He wrote back telling me that God should decide for himself how to prove it. Are you for real Matt? What a typical cop-out excuse! I asked Matt to describe God. I said unicorns do not exist but I can describe one. Matt couldnt answer this. He was owned.
@jpgrygus " I said unicorns do not exist but I can describe one. "
That's because there is generally 1 definition of a unicorn where someone could choose to describe "god" a dozen different ways. You're asking someone who doesn't believe in any of those to pick one and describe it. That is not analogous to the unicorn.
A better analogy would be asking you to describe to me what a mythical creature is.
@devious21 Atheists attack Christians. So describe to me the Christian God. There is only one in christianity and if the Christian god is fabricated just like a unicorn then you can describe him. Bet you wont do it, no atheist can. over to you.
Among Christianity itself, there are different views on what exact attributes god has. Why are you asking a non-christian to pick and narrow down an exact definition for your god? What is that exercise even supposed to prove? Why don't you just define your own god and then tell us why you are justified in believing in it.
@devious21 Nice try. IThe atheist view is that elephants dont exist because an elephant is a pink creature that flys on magic carpets in space. Well in that case I dont believe in elephants either. Yet the correct idea of an elephant is factual. No go and get the correct idea of God. It is more scientifc than the science atheits claim is creator.
@devious21 Unicorns dont exist but i can describe one. God 'doesnt' exist but lo and behold not one atheist can describe him. Just one description will do thanks! lol
@jpgrygus "Unicorns dont exist but i can describe one."
Jigabowuzets don't exist either. Can you define it?
Your little semantic game doesn't prove anything and I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make. You're playing "I can't guess the definition of your god". What does that prove?
@jpgrygus "If the Christian god is fabricated just like a unicorn, then you can describe him."
I don't believe in whatever Christian god you do. If you want me to describe a god that SOME Christians believe(that I've heard of before), it would be a creator of the universe that's omnipotent and omniscient.
Some Christians don' t believe he's omniscient. Some don't believe he's omnipotent. Again, most everyone is in agreement of what a unicorn is. Not the case with god. Your logic is flawed.
@jpgrygus Describing the Christian God depends on what aspects of his character you want described, as the book, as well as interpretations by many apologetics, paint varying pictures of him, none of which I would say are likely to be true, nor do they have evidence of any sort of their existence.
To experience physics all you have to do is hold something in your hand, and then move your hand out from under it. Or maybe jump out of a tree, or fall down the stairs... :) Denial of gravity... yeah... what is this world coming to?
Atheism, is about they don't think there is any real proof of a man in the clouds watching you from very high above. Not thinking there is no god, and there is no one there up obove or below.
Funny...it starts with "why won't you listen to reason"...
Well then,why won't you stop talking about complete rubbish of God or no god or any other crap-
AND START LOOKING BACK TO EARTH
Reasons says "Take a look around,your planet is a Dump!"
Why you care about bible or atheism or anything like that,you keep ignoring what goes on in earth,and keep throwing your poop at each other,thinking you are smart
hey rere prove u can not prove God isnt real! get over it.You really think there was a big bang that created this world and all its beauty. If so ur as dumb as u say christians r.
@meredith2020 Again, if you expect to be taken seriously here, stop writing like an elementary school dropout. I mean seriously, why should we give a rat's ass about your opinion of scientific fact when you can't even spell basic words?
"There just has to be a greater being!" And of course there is.
The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for transcription or interpretation by bronze-age scribes.
The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.
I just wanted to say again what a hypocrite 1GodOnlyOne is. He makes all these hostile and arrogant claims and then won't let anyone comment on his posts. When he does allow he says, and I quote, "@jcisbell You are a stupid, uneducated moron and a coward.
ignorant posts deleted unread
ignorant shitbag troll blocked
atheist total fail"
So, that is a statement on his credibility. If you like his posts, think about it.
we COULD have came from nothing due to a paradox of quantum mechanics, if we do not exist there is no-one to tell the universe if we do and hence we would be in the quantum state of (a certain %) existing(this is how MUCH we would exist not the chance of it)-being partially non-existent and partially existant created a quantum universe where, WE EXIST, god does not even have to be part of the equasion and if he was part of the equasion HE WAS CREATED BY THE UNIVERSE AND NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND.
athism is the belief that there is no god, agnostic is the understanding that you will never know, this guy isn't TECHNICALLY an athiest, not many people know the difference.
@doombybbr No, Athesim is a response to a claim, not a position. It is simply a "not true" response vs. a "false" response. If a theist claims there is a god and I say I don't believe you, I am an A-Theist (without theism)
Atheism deals with what a person believes. Agnosticism deals with what a person knows.
@starbug842 These words have to do with the burden of proof. An analogy: in a court of law the burden of proof lies on the prosecutor who claims the defendant is guilty. It is his burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty. If the prosecutor cannot do this the defendant is not guilty, this does not mean he is innocent, it means he is not guilty or hasn't been shown to be guilty. Not guilty means he could be guilty but we cannot prove it.
@starbug842 An Atheist is one who has said not guilty or not true, it is a response to a theists claims that a god exists. Atheists do not claim there is no god or that your claims are false simply that you have not met your burden of proof and are therefore not true.
Do you see the difference now? not a big difference but you have to look at the context of the word.
@MrArokOleary nope sorry not guilty and innocent do mean the same thing. i wasn't asking about burden of proof and using that as a context still doesn't make the two terms mean different things. by saying somethin isn't true you are saying it is false. if i were to say to you 'the sky is blue' and gave the option of not true or false as your answer, it doesn't matter which one you say,both mean you are saying the sky is not blue.
@MrArokOleary you can make the term atheist as convoluted as you like but it still means you do not believe in the existance of a god or gods. agnostic is the one which says it's possible but until there is concrete proof we can't know for sure.
@starbug842 "agnostic is the one which says it's possible but until there is concrete proof we can't know for sure"this statement of yours is incorect. i explaine: gnostic / agnostic mens knowing / not knowing, and in case of religion this therm can't stand on its own. it needs to be associated with another. for exemple: u can be a gnostik chistian, when u claim that u know that the christian got is true
@starbug842 but u can also be an agnostic christian who says: "i beleave in the god of the bible and in jesus christ, but i can't possibly know if its in fakt true, i 1take it of faith." the same applyes on atheism of course, where gnostic atheist say : "there is no god", but a agnostic atheist says :" i don't know if there is a god, but i dont beleave there is one." the word agnostic is commonly missused like u did, thats why so many people didn't know its tru meaning, sry for my bad english.
@MrArokOleary i hate all this crap about whos burden it is anyway. it's no ones burden. if you are interested in finding truth then it is your burden and yours alone. if you have a question then it's your job to go find the answer. you can get help form others sure but you shouldn't ask someone to go find out for you without doing any of the leg work
@ekramonology any one who even read why he did it means that he tried to prevent knowledge from reaching us, knowledge is power, and we all know where power leads, this means that devil did the RIGHT THING and god did the WRONG THING(how is god all good if he is like that), and yet he is treated like a villain when he is just tragically misunderstood.
@Mr5150crash Do you mean they have comments and ratings disabled? If so, yes, I have noticed that. I don't watch any video for which comments and/or ratings are blocked.
Its such a pity that with such excellent debating skills the Atheist Experience hosts regularly have to deal with this kind of idiocy. I like it when they get callers who are half-way educated...sadly that doesn't happen too often.
spekticat 6 days ago
Chris is fucking retarded!
TheRevolutionEndz 6 days ago
This caller deserves to have a basemall smash his nuts & then say... "PHYSICS BITCH!!"
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@LickMyPlateHogBitch "The bible makes claims and nobody has disproved them yet."
Burden of Proof is on people who believe in the Bible. You don't "believe all things until they are disproved". That's not how logic and reason works. Look up "Burden of Proof" and try to understand why it's required.
"You can't claim God isn't real until you seek for yourself"
You can disbelieve God until there is justification to believe. Just like everything else.
devious21 3 weeks ago
- "You are ignorant. Educate yourself."
Is does not take and educated person to understand the concept of how it's impossible to begin from nothing. Explain that to me instead of ignoring my question and calling me ignorant which is what most ignorant people do. You blocking me is telling me you are ignorant and don't know how to answer my question because I'm right. You put on this show to answer questions and it's sad how you don't have an answer to this.
Resolushion 1 month ago
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@Resolushion "Is does not take and educated person to understand the concept of how it's impossible to begin from nothing."
What about the concept of infinity?
"You put on this show to answer questions and it's sad how you don't have an answer to this."
You want them to answer "what was here before the Universe was here?", Seriously? Here, I'll do it for you. "We don't know". Does that work for you?
devious21 3 weeks ago
@Resolushion And it is dishonest to say "I don't know how it all came to be therefore God must have done it". It is already a contradicted sentence. If you don't know, then how do you know it was a God who created the universe? As of right now nobody knows the origin of the universe and how it all started but to assume that an intelligent being was behind it, is the same as assuming an invisible pink unicorn was behind it.
Balstar5283 2 weeks ago
@Balstar5283 There will always be an ongoing argument of how did we come to existence. It's never going to end, because even if someone said how the universe formed, then you can still say "well where did that come from" ? Its on going, The only final end to this all has to be a "God" or even an invisible pink unicorn. It's not dishonest for me to say God exists because it's obviously my opinion and you don't know God doesn't exist.
ResolutionVids 6 days ago
@ResolutionVids There's a difference between "God exist" and "I believe that a God exist." The first is asserting God existence as a fact while the other is an opinion. Maybe "God" is the end of the cycle of questions, but the real issue is whether that is the correct answer and what is the reason for believing that is the correct answer. Yes, I don't know God doesn't exist, but I can't assume that he does without some kind of justification.
Balstar5283 6 days ago
@Balstar5283 This is youtube if you didn't already know. Whatever someone says is going to be someones opinion. Obviously I can't prove that God is existing, same way you can't prove that God isn't existing. Do I have title everything I say with "my opinion"? I'm just saying "in my opinion", that the cycle of questions will never end without there being a God of some sort.
ResolutionVids 5 days ago
@ResolutionVids There are people out there asserting God's existence as fact, but that's beside the point. The point I wanted to make is why believe there's a God who created the universe to begin with? It might be a convenient answer but I rather have an accurate explanation which is supported by evidence. If we don't know the answer, then we just don't know it. To me that's more honest than saying "we don't know therefore a God must exist."
Balstar5283 5 days ago
@Balstar5283 Your never going to get an accurate explanation. If God really does exist, God isn't going to make the existence obvious or everyone would believe. If everyone believed then there would be no point of life. Life is a test. I would rather believe and possibly being wrong, then not believing and going to hell. "My opinion" obviously. But it's better than just not believing because it's not sitting there in front of your eyes.
ResolutionVids 5 days ago
@ResolutionVids "If God really does exist, God isn't going to make the existence obvious"
What? Says who? Why do you think you would know "god's" intentions? Why would that be a bad thing?
"If everyone believed then there would be no point of life"
Says who? How would everyone believing in god make life pointless?
"Life is a test"
Again, according to whom?
"I would rather believe and possibly being wrong, then not believing and going to hell."
Look up "Pascal's Wager" and why it's wrong.
devious21 4 days ago
@devious21 I'm stating my opinion, according to me?
ResolutionVids 3 days ago
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@ResolutionVids "I'm stating my opinion, according to me?"
The problem was stating baseless assertions and justifying them as "They are just my opinions" is the same problem as holding opinions that are baseless assertions with no justification.
I'm obviously asking why you think YOUR OPINION holds any weight. If you are going to concede that it doesn't, there's no reason for anyone here to take you or your opinions seriously.
devious21 3 days ago
@Resolushion Also saying that atheist believe we came from nothing is a strawman. What the scientists say (not atheist by the way) is the universe started as a singularity. Where did that singularity come from? Well nobody knows but nobody is claiming it came from nothing. We simply DO NOT KNOW.
Balstar5283 2 weeks ago
I was walking to the store one day smoking a joint and finishing my Old
Gold and a Unicorn just appeared right in front of me ...thats not the wierd part, it started to sing then suddenly changed into thug and robbed me of my drinking money...and since then I have been sober I then realized God was real cause stuff like this don't happen.....it only happens when one is not in his right state of mind.
89krash 1 month ago
Lots of YouTube atheists recommend Richard Dawkins' book, "The Greatest Show On Earth", however, a Christian Creationist has refuted Dawkins' book. "The Greatest Hoax On Earth" by Jonathan Sarfati. Sarfati has challenged Dawkins to a debate. So far, Dawkins has declined.
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
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@ZebrasFirst "however, a Christian Creationist has refuted Dawkins' book. "The Greatest Hoax On Earth" by Jonathan Sarfati."
What point did he make that you find relevant and compelling?
devious21 1 month ago
What Matt said is a bunch of horse manure. Lies. Matt talks like it has been settled how the Universe and the Earth was made, it hasn't.
The Big Bang, space aliens, and nothingness are still atheistic, stupid possibilities.
The Atheist Experience's theme song "Listen To Reason" says, "Won't you listen to reeeason?..." What reasoning? That anything formed all of existence in it's remarkable order BUT God? That's not reason, that's several reasons avoiding one reason (God).
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
@ZebrasFirst "What Matt said is a bunch of horse manure. Lies. Matt talks like it has been settled how the Universe and the Earth was made, it hasn't."
He has settled on Science's best explanation for what we have thus far. If new information challenged that assumption, I'm sure Matt would weigh the new evidence and be willing to change his mind as many of us would.
devious21 1 month ago
@devious21, U said,"He has settled on Science's best explanation..."
- Self-Creation is not Science! It's atheist wishful thinking.
If a skyscraper does not get there all by itself, why would you think the Universe and the Earth did?
What Matt says at 2:18 thru 2:32 screams that all of existence formed all by itself. Yahoo! News ran an article on Stephen Hawking saying everything came from nothing. Yeah...right.
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
@ZebrasFirst "What Matt says at 2:18 thru 2:32 screams that all of existence formed all by itself. "
He explains how the Earth and the Sun were formed and I don't see an issue with it. What he says is consistent with science.
"Self-Creation is not Science! It's atheist wishful thinking."
I'll be honest, I'm very doubtful you know what is and isn't science. So you're not really in a position to make any claim along those lines.
devious21 1 month ago
@devious21, I'm very doubtful you know what is and isn't science."
- I'm sure you are doubtful since you have no clue of the differences between Science and Science Fiction.
The Universe and the Earth creating themselves into existence is pure Science Fiction. If what Matt said were true, we wouldn't have The Big Bang AND Nothingness AND Space Aliens AND any other foolishness you atheists try to come up with. That's not consistency, that's uncertainty and confusion.
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
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@ZebrasFirst "The Universe and the Earth creating themselves into existence"
Who says the earth created itself? You don't understand science.
There may be a Hypothesis of an Eternal Universe with what we know of time and space. It may not be true but just because you can't fathom or understand it, doesn't make it foolish.
"If what Matt said were true, we wouldn't have The Big Bang AND Nothingness AND Space Aliens"
What did he say? What are you talking about? Make a point already.
devious21 1 month ago
@devious21, U ended,"I'm sure Matt would weigh the new evidence and be willing to change his mind as many of us would."
- I don't believe that at all. Atheists will accept anything but God. Nothingness (Hawking) makes better sense to atheists, Space Aliens (Dawkins) makes better sense to atheists, and any other silly, impossible theory. God is the ONLY option that is out to atheists. That's why the Bible says,"The fool has said in his heart, there is no God."
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
@ZebrasFirst
"Space Aliens (Dawkins) makes better sense to atheists, and any other silly, impossible theory. God is the ONLY option that is out to atheists."
Regarding Aliens or "life on other planets" - I don't see what's so far fetched about that. We have concrete proof of life on planets (us) and planets able to sustain life (earth). So the possibility of it existing elsewhere is reasonable.
We have no concrete proof for God or Gods existing. So comparing those too isn't really useful.
devious21 1 month ago
@devious21, You're so funny. We have life on Earth because Earth is the only planet that has the enviroment and living conditions that could support life. Other planets do not. Go live on Mars if you think differently (and see what happens).
Furthermore, you contradicted yourself: Atheists have no "concrete proof" of God, but you'll accept space creatures with no problem. Did you know UFO sightings have dropped since the 1970's? Do you care?
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
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@ZebrasFirst "You're so funny. We have life on Earth because Earth is the only planet that has the enviroment and living conditions that could support life. "
In the universe? What about planets like Kepler 20e/f? The universe doesn't revolve around your galaxy.
"Atheists have no "concrete proof" of God"
Why would atheist need concrete proof of god?
"you'll accept space creatures with no problem"
I accept they are possible, sure. We have more evidence for their possible existence than gods.
devious21 1 month ago
@devious21, Space Aliens- In the 1970s, cameras were few and far between. Today, practically everyone has a camera in some form or another. We should have captured excellent images of your space parents by now, and not some image of a hazy, smeared hoax as "proof".
Again, you'd rather fantasy space beings be real than God.
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
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@ZebrasFirst "Space Aliens- In the 1970s, cameras were few and far between."
I'm talking about the possibility of intelligent life in the universe. You are talking about Aliens landing on earth. I never said I believed Aliens landed on earth or in the claims of those who have "seen aliens".
It sounds like your opinions of Atheists are based on misunderstandings of their views.
devious21 1 month ago
@ZebrasFirst "I don't believe that at all. Atheists will accept anything but God."
Besides this comment showing your obvious bias against Atheists, you use of "will accept" ensures that the state is objectively false.
Any Atheists can give you a list of other claims they don't have justification to believe. This is not some grudge Atheists have against god. They simply don't believe in god like they don't believe in many claims that haven't met their Burden of Proof.
devious21 1 month ago
@devious21, U said,"this comment (mine) showing your obvious bias against Atheists..."
- Bias against atheists? Oh, but it's all right for atheists to make bias claims against Christianity?
U said,"Any Atheists can give you a list of other claims they don't have justification to believe."
- You mean like Atheism and space aliens?
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
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@ZebrasFirst "Bias against atheists? Oh, but it's all right for atheists to make bias claims against Christianity?"
No, it's not. But so far in this discussion, only you have.
"You mean like Atheism and space aliens?"
Atheism has justification (for me) as no theist's claim has met it's Burden of Proof. If that sentence does not make sense to you, please look it up.
devious21 1 month ago
way do dat wata mellon gro'zzz? negro go eat sum chicken....
FUwogs 1 month ago
these guys are kinda jackasses
ChinnuWoW 1 month ago
but where did the particles come from?
spurs2121 1 month ago
@spurs2121 Read: "Big Bang" by Simon Singh
Christheatheist1 1 month ago
@Christheatheist1 without any particles how could the bigbang happen?
spurs2121 1 month ago
@spurs2121 - Read the book before you ask.
Christheatheist1 1 month ago
@spurs2121
Its called "virtual particles", and they are created every second and vanish in a instant. This happens all around us all the time.
At quantum level, there is no before or after, no cause or effect. Think the opposit of our world.
daarco2 1 month ago
love when he tells him to read his bible
giovannito858 1 month ago
What's physics? LOL!
HighCaliberLogic 1 month ago 2
This video just shows how routine this becomes.
teddybruscie 1 month ago
Chris is a douche.
Uberboy07 2 months ago 5
@yankwilliams this show is a fail, it couldnt be more wrong, and he couldnt lie any more if he possibly tried
elibeth121 2 months ago
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@yankwilliams "That's the fact Jack."
The fact is that you cannot demonstrate through evidence why anyone other than you should believe in your god. If you have a personal experience and witness him, then that's fantastic, but that can only be evidence for you, and no one else.
Also, and this is not meant to be an insult, but you really need to work on your formatting, because it's hard to tell where your sentences begin and end at times.
skitchmusic 2 months ago
@yankwilliams The only one who's failed is God, in terms of making a test that makes any sort of sense regarding what it is evaluating, and how it goes about evaluating that. How do you expect a test of any sort to work when different people are given different circumstances, knowledge, and time to do the test in?
Furthermore, asserting that atheists need to 'grow balls' weakens your point. You basically are saying that you can't prove your point, and you don't care if you can prove it.
skitchmusic 2 months ago
'i mean, romans...'
topperheartramada 2 months ago
@yankwilliams Can you prove that the universe was created by a god of any sort, much less the specific one you believe in? The thing about being a Skeptic Atheist, like Matt, is that we can admit that _we don't know_ the answers to those questions yet, and that's okay.
We're searching for the answers, even today, but the persistant point made is that someone like me cares about whether his beliefs are true, accurate, and justified. You clearly focus more on feeling than truth, though.
skitchmusic 2 months ago
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elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 "God designed this world with such providential detainls, they are so mind boggling to me."
Maybe details that are mind boggling to you, aren't as mind boggling to others. A good solid science education makes the world a lot less mystical.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 God designed this world, and yes it is truly amazing.
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 "God designed this world, and yes it is truly amazing."
I bet that if you presented the reasons or arguments why you think God designed the world, they could systematically be shown to be false or misunderstood arguments.
The question is, once your arguments has been shown to be false, would it matter? Or would you still believe without justification that God designed the world?
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 Lets say that God is wrong and not real. What do I have to lose? Lets say that you are wrong what do you lose? You lose eternal life and go to hell.
elibeth121 2 months ago
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*Me - "I bet that if you presented the reasons or arguments why you think God designed the world, they could systematically be shown to be false or misunderstood arguments."
*You - "Lets say that God is wrong and not real. What do I have to lose?"
This argument is known as Pascal Wager. It's invokes the fallacy of False Dichotomy, which assumes there are only 2 options.There are numerous other gods and religions who's hell you go to if you're wrong. It's a flawed argument.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 I didnt know it by Pascal, however what I have said to you is all true. There are two options Heaven or Hell. There are no other gods. Jesus Christ is the true God.
The world cannot have its origin and the destination within itself. In everything that exists, there is more than we can see. The order, the beauty, and the development of the world point beyond themselves toward God. Every person is receptive to what is true, good and beatiful. He hears within himself the voice.
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 "I didnt know it by Pascal, however what I have said to you is all true."
No, it's not true. That's the point. Read up on Pascal's Wager. Understand why it's not logical and why it's NOT a reasoned argument. If you believe in God, I think you'd agree you'd want to believe in him for REAL reasons that make sense. Pascal's Wager is not one of them.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 I really dont care what Pascal says, I read what God says.
elibeth121 2 months ago
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@elibeth121 "I really dont care what Pascal says, I read what God says."
That's BS and you know it. God NEVER said "Believe in me cause it's a safe bet and I more likely exist than don't".
That's an argument PEOPLE use, not words from God. You need to be able to differentiate what you think GOD SAYS and what PEOPLE SAY. Those are VERY DIFFERENT.
At least read the Wikipedia entry on what Pascal's Wager, so you understand why it's wrong and so you don't continue to use a FLAWED reason for God.
devious21 2 months ago
@elibeth121
1)"There are two options Heaven or Hell. There are no other gods. Jesus Christ is the true God."
More of the "False Dichotomy".
2) "The world cannot have its origin and the destination within itself."
First Cause argument. Invokes the "Argument from Ignorance" fallacy.
3) "Conscience, which urges him to what is good and warns him against what is evil."
Argument from Morality. There are many refutations and entire debates dedicated to this. God ISN'T a requirement for morality.
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 Number one is correct, Number two is correct, and number three is correct. God keeps you on the correct path and yes he forms your conscience.
elibeth121 2 months ago
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@elibeth121 "Number one is correct, Number two is correct, and number three is correct."
I was pointing out Arguments and Fallacies. If it's a fallacy, it's not correct.
"God keeps you on the correct path and yes he forms your conscience."
So people that hijacked the planes on 9/11 - God formed their conscience? Were they on the correct path. Because they died for their God.
devious21 2 months ago
@elibeth121 if good and evil come from god, is he a moral relativist or absolutist?
TheYetoRieck 2 months ago
@TheYetoRieck Evil did not come from God, only good came from God. Because, he gave man free will they choose to sin. God does not create evil.
elibeth121 2 months ago
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@elibeth121 "Evil did not come from God, only good came from God. Because, he gave man free will they choose to sin. God does not create evil."
And what is sin?
Is sin whatever god says it is? OR
Is sin just universally evil and god is just telling you about it?
I believe this is what TheYetoRieck was asking you.
devious21 2 months ago
@elibeth121 but god created everything, and evil is a part of everything
TheYetoRieck 2 months ago
@TheYetoRieck No. God created everything he did not create sin, they choose to sin
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 so God created a tree which gave them knowledge of good and evil. but did good and evil exist before then? or did they just not realise that nakedness was (apparently) a sin, seeing as they identified this as being sinful.
TheYetoRieck 2 months ago
@TheYetoRieck Yes, evil existed through Satan. or actually he was called Lucifer then because he was an angel who questioned and tested God. He was then a fallen angel, and God casted him away. They were certainly embarassed to be naked and were hiding from God., for they knew they had sinned.
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 so us having free will was a mistake on God's part? presumably they weren't sinning when they were naked before, so we weren't meant to have free will in the first place
TheYetoRieck 1 month ago
@TheYetoRieck Nope God that to people so we would not be robots and forced to believe in him. He wants us to believe in him so we can know true happiness but does not force us. Adam and Eve were meant to live very happily in the Garden of Eve, they had a perfect life without death, without disease, without having to work, but they choice to sin and ruined their life and gave us orginial sin.
elibeth121 1 month ago
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@elibeth121 And what is sin?
Is sin whatever god says it is? OR
Is sin just universally evil and god is just telling you about it?
devious21 1 month ago
@TheYetoRieck God created good, he did not create evil, He gave us free will and we choose to sin.
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 God gave us free will but gets pissed when we use it? That makes sense
13Kukis 1 month ago 5
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@13Kukis Logically, God knowing what we are going to do does not mean that we can't do something else. It means that God simply knows what we have chosen to do ahead of time. Our freedom is not restricted by God's foreknowledge; our freedom is simply realized ahead of time by God.
elibeth121 1 month ago
@13Kukis, U wrote,"God gave us free will but gets pissed when we use it? That makes sense"
- Yes, God gives us free will to accept or reject Him. The Bible says God would love for the whole world to turn to Him. As we can see today, the world won't.
Evil and rampant sin is what pisses Him off. People being horrible to each other, murder, rape, etc, etc. God promised there'd be a time to end it.
ZebrasFirst 1 month ago
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@TheYetoRieck "@elibeth121 if good and evil come from god, is he a moral relativist or absolutist?"
Haha. You gotta gauge the questions with the person. Look at her earlier comments. You're aren't going to get an answer to that question. :)
devious21 2 months ago
@devious21 of Conscience, which urges him to what is good and warns him against what is evil. Anyone who follows that path reasonably finds God.
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 or evolution acting in social animals. chimpanzees can display feeling of shame and fear when they break the rules of their groups. are they religious? is God talking to them? probably not, he did, after all, make us in 'his image'...
TheYetoRieck 2 months ago
@TheYetoRieck He made us in our image.
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 "When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God."
TheYetoRieck 2 months ago
@devious21 God created the heavens and the earth. and everything else in it.
elibeth121 2 months ago
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@elibeth121 "God created the heavens and the earth. and everything else in it."
I used to believe the same. The question I had to ask myself was "would I still believe my reasons for believing were false". The answer for me (and hopefully for you) was, "of course not". You should only want to believe things that are true.
That's not saying you may not have a good reason to believe in God, but Pascal's Wager DEFINITELY isn't one. Once you understand it, I wouldn't use it as a reason anymore.
devious21 2 months ago
@elibeth121 Okay, give examples of those details. A lot of folks refer to the eye, but ignore the blatant flaws in the design of the human eye, which has a natural blindspot (something we _all_ have), whereas the octopus has a significantly better designed eye which does not have the blind spot. IF that was designed, it is indeed mind boggling that the creator's 'chosen people' 'designed in his likeness' would have a fundamental flaw in design.
skitchmusic 2 months ago
@skitchmusic What are you referring to exactly. Are you referring to sin?
elibeth121 2 months ago
@elibeth121 In terms of the flaw? No, the flaw I'm referring to is the human eye, which has its optical nerves wired in such a way that we have a physical blind spot. If the eye was designed, then the human eye was designed poorly.
I do not view 'sin' as a flaw of design, but as a fault of humans through psychological faults that we all have, mostly because the perception of reality is constructed within the mind just as much as it is received by the senses.
skitchmusic 2 months ago
He should of said in reply to what's physics : you dropped out of elementary school huh?
blazearmoru 2 months ago
"no its not."
"yes it is."
"no its not"
"yes it is."
lol i loved that part. it was like kids arguing
DawnBraker 2 months ago
lol nigger
RoOXxR 2 months ago
when i get done typing this i am going to pray for each and every one of u who are not belivers..and no Im not doing this or leaving this comment to be a goody two shoes. ive just read sum nasty remarks about christians being stupid and not being intelligant And i want to show you that it doesnt matter what ppl think about me and us as followers. I still luv u and respect you as a human and i understand y you dont believe so I only hope and pray that perhaps one day you will find out to :)
DjJohnnyPe 2 months ago
@DjJohnnyPe thanks for the love and respect, but i find you praying for me offensive and would prefer it if you didn't
TheYetoRieck 1 month ago
"how do you know physics is true!"
(FACEPALM)
ApostateOfTheDamned 2 months ago
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The Atheist Experience = The Lake of Fire
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disciplesofthecross 2 months ago
"Allah" is actually two words: 1)"Al"= Arabic article, 2) "ilah"="God"! So "Allah" means "the God" in Arabic!
Peristerygr 2 months ago
@Peristerygr thanks i didn't know that
anirvanroy84 2 months ago
"You haven't read your bible, have you?" *crickets chirping. Tumble weed rolls by* "Have you!?"
"Becuz I knowz it!"
newcoyote 2 months ago
So Matt (and the ignorant chick next to him)....the sun was made by gravity and particles? So what was the intelligence behind the gravity and the design of the sun?
And who made the particles that formed the sun? over to you Matt.
Matt, can you also believe that i have a gold watch which no human made? It formed in my bedroom by gravity and particles. Dont believe it? But you can believe the WHOLE universe was made like this with no creator. But the watch needed a creator?
jpgrygus 3 months ago
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@jpgrygus "So what was the intelligence behind the gravity and the design of the sun?"
Again, you are proposing that there is an intelligence and then asking others to explain what that intelligence is.
First, you have to provide justification as to why you think there is an intelligence. THEN, you'd have to prove why that intelligence is YOUR specific god as opposed to any of the other hundred gods.
devious21 3 months ago
@devious21 You are clearly confused. Matt states that the sun was created out of gravity and particles. Yet niether him nor you mention the driving force (intelligence) behind it. Its like me saying houses are made from bricks and mortar yet not mentioning the home builder behind it. Have you know a house that magically built itself? over to you.
jpgrygus 3 months ago
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@jpgrygus "Yet niether him nor you mention the driving force (intelligence) behind it"
Because neither him nor I believe there was an intelligence behind it. That's YOUR claim. What justification do you have for believing that?
" Its like me saying houses are made from bricks and mortar yet not mentioning the home builder behind it."
We have believe like, like trees, it occurs naturally. You are claiming it is designed.
devious21 3 months ago
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So, what is the intellegence behind that extra-ordenary powerfull being cappable of "speaking"(thats what Genissis said) the sun into excistence?
wybo2 3 months ago
I emailed Matt and asked him what evidence he needs to accept that God exists. He wrote back telling me that God should decide for himself how to prove it. Are you for real Matt? What a typical cop-out excuse! I asked Matt to describe God. I said unicorns do not exist but I can describe one. Matt couldnt answer this. He was owned.
jpgrygus 3 months ago
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@jpgrygus " I said unicorns do not exist but I can describe one. "
That's because there is generally 1 definition of a unicorn where someone could choose to describe "god" a dozen different ways. You're asking someone who doesn't believe in any of those to pick one and describe it. That is not analogous to the unicorn.
A better analogy would be asking you to describe to me what a mythical creature is.
devious21 3 months ago
@devious21 Atheists attack Christians. So describe to me the Christian God. There is only one in christianity and if the Christian god is fabricated just like a unicorn then you can describe him. Bet you wont do it, no atheist can. over to you.
jpgrygus 3 months ago
@jpgrygus "So describe to me the Christian God."
Among Christianity itself, there are different views on what exact attributes god has. Why are you asking a non-christian to pick and narrow down an exact definition for your god? What is that exercise even supposed to prove? Why don't you just define your own god and then tell us why you are justified in believing in it.
devious21 3 months ago
@devious21 Nice try. IThe atheist view is that elephants dont exist because an elephant is a pink creature that flys on magic carpets in space. Well in that case I dont believe in elephants either. Yet the correct idea of an elephant is factual. No go and get the correct idea of God. It is more scientifc than the science atheits claim is creator.
jpgrygus 3 months ago
@devious21 Unicorns dont exist but i can describe one. God 'doesnt' exist but lo and behold not one atheist can describe him. Just one description will do thanks! lol
jpgrygus 3 months ago
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@jpgrygus "God 'doesnt' exist but lo and behold not one atheist can describe him."
I just did but it wasn't up to your satisfaction. You are obviously the authority in this case of what the correct definition of god is.
So, if you are so sure you know what god is, tell us what you think god is and what your evidence is for claiming he/it/she exists.
devious21 3 months ago
@jpgrygus "Unicorns dont exist but i can describe one."
Jigabowuzets don't exist either. Can you define it?
Your little semantic game doesn't prove anything and I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make. You're playing "I can't guess the definition of your god". What does that prove?
devious21 3 months ago
@jpgrygus "If the Christian god is fabricated just like a unicorn, then you can describe him."
I don't believe in whatever Christian god you do. If you want me to describe a god that SOME Christians believe(that I've heard of before), it would be a creator of the universe that's omnipotent and omniscient.
Some Christians don' t believe he's omniscient. Some don't believe he's omnipotent. Again, most everyone is in agreement of what a unicorn is. Not the case with god. Your logic is flawed.
devious21 3 months ago
@jpgrygus Describing the Christian God depends on what aspects of his character you want described, as the book, as well as interpretations by many apologetics, paint varying pictures of him, none of which I would say are likely to be true, nor do they have evidence of any sort of their existence.
skitchmusic 2 months ago
"Whats physics?" errrrr herp derp derp
VFXSFXDUDE 3 months ago
Matt is a super hero for having this patience to "debate" with religious fools.
dummychaos 3 months ago 18
@dummychaos We are not fools, You have a hyper rationality, Your self confidence blinds you to the reality of God.
elibeth121 2 months ago
Omg!...
pocco666 3 months ago
To experience physics all you have to do is hold something in your hand, and then move your hand out from under it. Or maybe jump out of a tree, or fall down the stairs... :) Denial of gravity... yeah... what is this world coming to?
totoro1591 3 months ago
Atheism, is about they don't think there is any real proof of a man in the clouds watching you from very high above. Not thinking there is no god, and there is no one there up obove or below.
kittythevamp 3 months ago
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"No it's not"
"Yes it is"
"No it's not"
"Yes it is"
Best line ever!
freeoww 3 months ago 4
@freeoww They sounded like children lol
Metal1998 3 months ago in playlist Más vídeos de myfavmusic1052
Funny...it starts with "why won't you listen to reason"...
Well then,why won't you stop talking about complete rubbish of God or no god or any other crap-
AND START LOOKING BACK TO EARTH
Reasons says "Take a look around,your planet is a Dump!"
Why you care about bible or atheism or anything like that,you keep ignoring what goes on in earth,and keep throwing your poop at each other,thinking you are smart
WAKE UP YOU BLIND IDIOTS!
Wharwulif 3 months ago
The caller needed to get out of the house because he had no grasp of reality.
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theworldwins 3 months ago
hey rere prove u can not prove God isnt real! get over it.You really think there was a big bang that created this world and all its beauty. If so ur as dumb as u say christians r.
meredith2020 3 months ago
@meredith2020 Again, if you expect to be taken seriously here, stop writing like an elementary school dropout. I mean seriously, why should we give a rat's ass about your opinion of scientific fact when you can't even spell basic words?
rnalithe00 3 months ago
@rnalithe00 Oh Wow ! someone needs a hug. ...........HeY GOD sTiLL LoVeS YoU.
meredith2020 3 months ago
Not one original argument from the religious lemming (not that he has many to choose from anyway).
rnalithe00 3 months ago
The caller's IQ is lower than the room's temperature. Its painful to listen to these people. This show attracts the dumbest callers.
Johnf85 3 months ago 2
"There just has to be a greater being!" And of course there is.
The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for transcription or interpretation by bronze-age scribes.
The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.
See ' God says sorry. '
lacontrabasse 3 months ago
this kid dismantled himself
BrickCityKingz 3 months ago
I just wanted to say again what a hypocrite 1GodOnlyOne is. He makes all these hostile and arrogant claims and then won't let anyone comment on his posts. When he does allow he says, and I quote, "@jcisbell You are a stupid, uneducated moron and a coward.
ignorant posts deleted unread
ignorant shitbag troll blocked
atheist total fail"
So, that is a statement on his credibility. If you like his posts, think about it.
jcisbell 3 months ago
@jcisbell hahahahaha that's EXACTLY what he said to ME in a private message!
i didn't even say anything OFFENSIVE!
HuyerPercussive 3 months ago
@jcisbell how would he know that a post is ignorant if he deleted it unread?? i guess he applies the same logic to the bible.
"i didn't read it, but i KNOW it's right!"
HuyerPercussive 3 months ago
"What's PHYSICS." LMAO
Calliope222 3 months ago 29
@Calliope222 "It's God, DURRR" Yeah, try writing that on a physics exam, haha.
rnalithe00 3 months ago
"I came from my parents" ohh man that was great.
wiih8ps3 3 months ago
we COULD have came from nothing due to a paradox of quantum mechanics, if we do not exist there is no-one to tell the universe if we do and hence we would be in the quantum state of (a certain %) existing(this is how MUCH we would exist not the chance of it)-being partially non-existent and partially existant created a quantum universe where, WE EXIST, god does not even have to be part of the equasion and if he was part of the equasion HE WAS CREATED BY THE UNIVERSE AND NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND.
doombybbr 4 months ago
athism is the belief that there is no god, agnostic is the understanding that you will never know, this guy isn't TECHNICALLY an athiest, not many people know the difference.
doombybbr 4 months ago
@doombybbr between athiesm and being agnostic
doombybbr 4 months ago
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@doombybbr
Your deffinitions are incorrect.
Atheist = Without God (No beleif, tho origionaly it meant forsaken by the Gods)
Agnostic = Without Knowlege
I do not have proof and therefore no knowledge of God (Agnostic) and with no knowledge of God available I do not beleive in God (Atheist).
whiteowl1415 4 months ago
@doombybbr No, Athesim is a response to a claim, not a position. It is simply a "not true" response vs. a "false" response. If a theist claims there is a god and I say I don't believe you, I am an A-Theist (without theism)
Atheism deals with what a person believes. Agnosticism deals with what a person knows.
MrArokOleary 4 months ago
@MrArokOleary 'not true' and 'false' are synonyms are they not?
starbug842 4 months ago
@starbug842 No, just as "Not guilty" and "Innocent" are not synonyms.
MrArokOleary 4 months ago
@MrArokOleary yeah they also mean the same thing. you might have to explain to me how they are not the same things because i'm pretty sure they are
starbug842 4 months ago
@starbug842 These words have to do with the burden of proof. An analogy: in a court of law the burden of proof lies on the prosecutor who claims the defendant is guilty. It is his burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty. If the prosecutor cannot do this the defendant is not guilty, this does not mean he is innocent, it means he is not guilty or hasn't been shown to be guilty. Not guilty means he could be guilty but we cannot prove it.
MrArokOleary 4 months ago
@starbug842 An Atheist is one who has said not guilty or not true, it is a response to a theists claims that a god exists. Atheists do not claim there is no god or that your claims are false simply that you have not met your burden of proof and are therefore not true.
Do you see the difference now? not a big difference but you have to look at the context of the word.
MrArokOleary 4 months ago
@MrArokOleary nope sorry not guilty and innocent do mean the same thing. i wasn't asking about burden of proof and using that as a context still doesn't make the two terms mean different things. by saying somethin isn't true you are saying it is false. if i were to say to you 'the sky is blue' and gave the option of not true or false as your answer, it doesn't matter which one you say,both mean you are saying the sky is not blue.
starbug842 4 months ago
@MrArokOleary you can make the term atheist as convoluted as you like but it still means you do not believe in the existance of a god or gods. agnostic is the one which says it's possible but until there is concrete proof we can't know for sure.
starbug842 4 months ago
@starbug842 "agnostic is the one which says it's possible but until there is concrete proof we can't know for sure"this statement of yours is incorect. i explaine: gnostic / agnostic mens knowing / not knowing, and in case of religion this therm can't stand on its own. it needs to be associated with another. for exemple: u can be a gnostik chistian, when u claim that u know that the christian got is true
xefir 3 months ago
@starbug842 but u can also be an agnostic christian who says: "i beleave in the god of the bible and in jesus christ, but i can't possibly know if its in fakt true, i 1take it of faith." the same applyes on atheism of course, where gnostic atheist say : "there is no god", but a agnostic atheist says :" i don't know if there is a god, but i dont beleave there is one." the word agnostic is commonly missused like u did, thats why so many people didn't know its tru meaning, sry for my bad english.
xefir 3 months ago
@MrArokOleary i hate all this crap about whos burden it is anyway. it's no ones burden. if you are interested in finding truth then it is your burden and yours alone. if you have a question then it's your job to go find the answer. you can get help form others sure but you shouldn't ask someone to go find out for you without doing any of the leg work
starbug842 4 months ago
WHY CANT CHRISTIAN FORGIVE THE DEVIL?
ekramonology 4 months ago
@ekramonology
Because he doesn't exist. ;)
Kinin4 4 months ago
@ekramonology any one who even read why he did it means that he tried to prevent knowledge from reaching us, knowledge is power, and we all know where power leads, this means that devil did the RIGHT THING and god did the WRONG THING(how is god all good if he is like that), and yet he is treated like a villain when he is just tragically misunderstood.
doombybbr 4 months ago
You guys make me proud to be an atheist :)
boscoblack 4 months ago 2
has anyone noticed that the videos claiming proof of god have a high tendency of having comments and ratings removed
Mr5150crash 4 months ago
@Mr5150crash Do you mean they have comments and ratings disabled? If so, yes, I have noticed that. I don't watch any video for which comments and/or ratings are blocked.
YY4Me133 4 months ago 13
@Mr5150crash and those who don't disable them have 90% dislikes
siddharthjoshi91 3 months ago
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WISE2BE 4 months ago
@WISE2BE XD I'm sorry, what?
KissMeQuenley 4 months ago